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00:00Hallo und willkommen zu der EUROPE CONVERSATION, ich bin Stefan Grobe.
00:12My guest today ist Henna Wirkunen,
00:14der Executive Vice-President der EUROPEAN COMMISSION
00:17in charge of tech-sovereignty, security und democracy.
00:22Welcome to the program.
00:23Thank you very much.
00:24So, with a portfolio like this, we can basically talk about anything.
00:28And I want to start with the topic of artificial intelligence,
00:32which is increasingly shaping our lives as a society.
00:37Now, the European public, like in the US, by the way,
00:41is still very skeptical and a bit frightened.
00:45And that might be an understatement.
00:48Can you reassure people?
00:51When it comes to AI?
00:52Yeah, I think AI is something, like you said,
00:55that when we speak about security, technology, democracy,
00:59that we can speak whatever topic under this.
01:01And AI is something that is very much, you know,
01:04connected all of these topics also to our security,
01:08but also to our democracies.
01:10And of course, now it's one of the most fastest developing technology.
01:15And in the European level, according to polls,
01:18we have made, for example, for the workers.
01:22So, in the job market, also in the workplaces,
01:25most of the people in last year,
01:27they had anyway positive attitude towards AI,
01:30even that you were a little skeptical
01:31about how people see AI.
01:33So, more than 60% of the people,
01:36they saw that AI has been helping them in their job.
01:39But, of course, now there is a lot of expectations,
01:42of course, towards AI,
01:43that how fast it will develop,
01:45how well it will change the things.
01:46But it's often happening with the new technologies
01:48that we have very high expectations
01:50that in the few years' time,
01:51everything will be totally changed.
01:53People are skeptical
01:53because they don't know what to expect.
01:56Feeling a little insecure.
01:58Yeah, and there's, of course,
01:59discussing about this AI bubble all the time
02:01that is there too many, too much expectations
02:04that it's really changing so much.
02:06But I think in the long term,
02:07AI will change a lot,
02:09but, of course, in the shorter time,
02:10maybe not so much.
02:11Okay.
02:12So, according to a recent study
02:13by a consultancy firm, Alex Partners,
02:1695% of CEOs said
02:18they expected to conduct layoffs
02:21in the next five years because of AI.
02:25Do you think this is realistic?
02:27We have very different, of course,
02:30also evaluations on this,
02:31that what it really means now
02:33for the jobs market,
02:34does it mean that AI will replace a lot of jobs?
02:37It's always happening with the new technologies
02:39that some jobs are lost,
02:42but then new jobs are also created.
02:45But what's for sure it is
02:46that we have to really train our workforce
02:49and our citizens for AI.
02:51So it's very important
02:52to invest to digital skills
02:54and also to ICT expertise
02:56and also to AI skills.
02:58But 95% is,
03:00that's quite a number.
03:01There is a lot of expectations also,
03:04of course,
03:04that AI can replace many of the very,
03:06like, manual jobs.
03:08But certainly there will be many jobs
03:10that AI can't replace the human beings.
03:14And, of course,
03:14human beings are then needed
03:16to new kind of tasks.
03:18So, globally,
03:20there are two AI superpowers,
03:22the United States and China.
03:25Europe is behind.
03:28How can we close this innovation gap?
03:32We have identified, of course,
03:34what are the obstacles
03:35in the European markets.
03:37And I think the good news
03:38is that we have everything
03:39what is needed
03:40to be competitive in AI.
03:42So we have the biggest amount
03:45of ICT
03:46and especially AI experts
03:48and engineers per capita
03:50in the European Union.
03:51We have great research
03:52and science in this field.
03:54We have also more than 7,000 startups
03:56who are developing
03:58and training AI
03:58in the European Union.
04:00But one clear obstacle
04:01is that they don't have access
04:03to computing capacity.
04:05And that's why
04:05we have been investing
04:06together with our member states
04:08to 19 AI factories,
04:09really to invest
04:10to supercomputers
04:11and give the access
04:12to our startups
04:13and to researchers
04:14to train AI.
04:16And now we will take also
04:17one more ambitious steps
04:19on this field
04:20when we will launch
04:21in the coming weeks
04:22the AI Gigafactories initiative.
04:24So we are building also
04:25four to five
04:26very massive supercomputers.
04:28So computing capacity
04:29has been one of the obstacles.
04:31And then it's also
04:31very important now
04:33to facilitate
04:33that we have also
04:35high quality data sets
04:36for AI developers.
04:38We are also working on that.
04:39And of course,
04:40we also publish
04:41recently our
04:42Applied AI strategy
04:43because we see
04:44that Europe can be
04:45very successful
04:46when we are combining
04:47our traditional industries
04:49and our public sector
04:51with AI.
04:52So these kinds of user cases
04:53we can be
04:54very successful there.
04:55I know you're
04:56a marathon runner.
04:58And those guys
05:00take the long view.
05:04So when do you think
05:07will Europe be able
05:09to really compete
05:10with the Americans
05:11and the Chinese?
05:12I think it's important
05:13that we are building
05:14to our own strengths
05:16also when it comes
05:17to competitiveness
05:18and technologies.
05:19And Europe has been
05:21always very open
05:22for global investors
05:25and global technologies
05:27as well.
05:27and that's why
05:29we don't have
05:29so much own capacity
05:31in all critical fields
05:32when it comes
05:32to technologies.
05:33And we have clearly
05:34identified that AI
05:35is one critical technology
05:37where we have to build
05:38up our own capacity
05:40together with AI,
05:42also with semiconductors,
05:43cyber security technologies.
05:45These are very
05:45critical technologies.
05:46You've said once
05:48that on this topic
05:49of new technologies
05:50Europe must lead,
05:52not follow.
05:54Can Europe do that alone?
05:56And who are
05:57our partners and allies?
05:59That is very important
06:01when we speak
06:01about technological sovereignty
06:03that we doesn't mean
06:05with that
06:06that we are planning
06:07to do everything
06:08by our own
06:09somehow in isolation.
06:11It's not even realistic
06:12and we see also
06:14that nobody can't
06:14be competitive alone.
06:15So for Europe
06:17it's very important
06:17that we are building up
06:18our own capacity
06:20in these critical fields
06:21but also that we have
06:22like-minded partners
06:24and we have digital partnerships
06:25with several countries
06:27and AI is one of the key topics
06:29also in these partnerships.
06:30Of course USA
06:31has been always
06:32our most important partner
06:34when it comes to security
06:35and technology economy
06:37but also we have
06:38digital partnership
06:39with South Korea,
06:41also with Japan,
06:43also with Canada,
06:44with India
06:45we have also
06:46technology council
06:47with them
06:47and of course
06:49we are now working
06:50more and more again
06:51with UK
06:52after Brexit
06:53and also with Brazil
06:55for example
06:55we just also concluded
06:57our Mercosur deal
06:59with Brazil
07:00and its neighboring countries.
07:01It's interesting
07:02that you mentioned
07:02the United States
07:03as the first ally
07:04because this is our partner
07:06with which we have
07:08sometimes locked horns
07:11when it comes to technology.
07:13What is the right strategy
07:15to push back
07:16against the Trump administration
07:18here
07:18and send a message
07:21to Washington
07:21and to the European people
07:22that Europe will not
07:23negotiate its values?
07:26When it comes to digital rules
07:28I think you especially
07:29thought about this part
07:33of our partnership
07:34when we speak about democracies
07:36like European Union
07:37and USA
07:38I think
07:39democratic countries
07:41and friends
07:42we can handle
07:43that kind of differences
07:45in our rules
07:46with respect
07:47and we can understand
07:48that we have different rules
07:50in some areas
07:51and when it comes
07:52to our digital rules
07:53Europeans are very committed
07:54to our rules
07:55because we want to make sure
07:56that we have
07:57fair and safe
07:59democratic environment
08:00also when it comes
08:02to digital environment
08:03so we want to make sure
08:05that everything
08:05what is illegal
08:06in our societies
08:07it's also illegal online
08:08and it's very clear line
08:10in the European Union
08:11and USA tech companies
08:14they understand very well
08:16of course
08:16that they have to
08:17they have to follow
08:19our rules
08:19when they are doing business
08:20in Europe
08:21and operating here
08:22we have to remember
08:23that for the European
08:24for the USA
08:26in big tech
08:26Europe is the biggest
08:28external market
08:29and for some of them
08:31Europe is the biggest
08:32market in the world
08:33for example
08:33Instagram is having
08:35100 million users more
08:37in Europe
08:37than in USA
08:38When you talk
08:39to US officials
08:40do they understand
08:42the European point of view
08:43do they understand
08:44the reasoning
08:45behind European legislation
08:48I think
08:49often in the
08:51European side
08:52there has been
08:52now the misunderstanding
08:54that we are somehow
08:55focusing only to
08:57USA companies
08:58with our rules
08:59and of course
09:00we know that
09:00this is not the case
09:01so it's always
09:02very important
09:02of course
09:03to explain
09:03that we have
09:04the same rules
09:05for everybody
09:05so for European companies
09:07for Asian companies
09:08from USA companies
09:09this is very fair
09:10everybody has
09:11the same rules
09:12who are operating
09:13and doing business
09:13in Europe
09:14so we are not
09:15somehow targeting
09:16to USA companies
09:17now the most
09:18prominent case
09:19obviously is
09:20EU versus
09:22Elon Musk's
09:23chatbox
09:24ex-chatbox
09:26GROC
09:27on Monday
09:28the European commission
09:29announced
09:30the launch
09:31of an investigation
09:32into the company
09:34after
09:35the outcry
09:37at the platform's
09:38failure to prevent
09:39the creation
09:40of sexually
09:41explicit images
09:42of women
09:43real people
09:45women and
09:46children
09:47walk us through
09:49the process
09:50what happens next
09:51and
09:52where are we going
09:54we have already
09:57had
09:57investigation
09:59open
09:59against X
10:00and especially
10:01focusing to X
10:02recommender system
10:04and now we were
10:05extending
10:06this investigation
10:07with the new decision
10:08because also
10:10X has informed
10:12that they are now
10:13integrating more
10:14and more GROC
10:15to their recommender system
10:16so the AI
10:17is running
10:18very much
10:18the recommender system
10:20of X
10:20and of course
10:21it has impacts
10:22so we will
10:23investigate now
10:24further
10:24recommender system
10:26of X
10:26and also
10:27we opened
10:28investigations
10:28especially about
10:29this
10:29that how
10:30X
10:31is now
10:32and has been
10:33really assessing
10:34and mitigating
10:35the systematic risks
10:36what GROC
10:38is posing
10:39to this online service
10:40so this is
10:41obligation
10:41under our
10:42Digital Service Act
10:43that always
10:44online platforms
10:46that they have
10:46to assess
10:47and mitigate
10:47all the time
10:48the risks
10:49what they are posing
10:49for example
10:50the people's
10:52well-being
10:52for our democratic
10:53civic discourses
10:54for the electoral
10:55processes
10:56so this is
10:57really obligation
10:58under DSA
10:59so we opened
11:00now the investigation
11:00we are collecting
11:01now evidence
11:02from the
11:03X
11:04and GROC
11:05side
11:05already before
11:06Christmas
11:06we made
11:07the decision
11:08that X
11:09has to now
11:10retain
11:10all the
11:11documents
11:12what they have
11:13connected
11:13to GROC
11:14and X
11:14and
11:15it's possible
11:17that we are having
11:18like interviews
11:19and we are collecting
11:20material and evidence
11:22and really looking
11:22how X has been
11:24taking its obligations
11:25under DSA
11:26and normally
11:27when we are carrying
11:28investigations
11:29I have to maybe
11:30also remind
11:32that we have
11:32investigations
11:34going on
11:34against 10
11:35online platforms
11:37currently
11:37so normally
11:38when we are
11:39gathering evidence
11:41we are coming
11:42to our preliminary
11:42findings
11:43and this is the step
11:45when the online platform
11:46that they have to comply
11:48with our rules
11:49and if they are not
11:50then the next step
11:50is really non-compliance
11:52decision
11:52or then we are accepting
11:54their commitments
11:55to change
11:55the behavior
11:56and design
11:57of the platform
11:58would you say
11:59that the European Union
12:00and the United States
12:01have a rocky relationship
12:03when it comes
12:04to new technologies
12:05we have
12:07some different views
12:09especially
12:10we know
12:11that the discussion
12:12of freedom of speech
12:14has been like
12:15dominating very much
12:16our digital rules
12:17and I think
12:18it's also very important
12:19to always underline
12:20that we are
12:21fully respecting
12:22freedom of speech
12:24and expression
12:24in our digital services
12:26act
12:26but in the European Union
12:28also
12:29when we speak
12:30about freedom
12:30of speech
12:31there is also
12:32limits
12:33because the other people
12:34they have also
12:35their own fundamental rights
12:37so some peoples
12:39like freedom of speech
12:40can't go over
12:41all the other people's
12:43rights also
12:44so we have also
12:46balance here
12:46but we have also
12:48many of the common
12:50fields of interest
12:51when it comes
12:52to digital rules
12:52as well
12:53for example
12:53protection of minors
12:55protection of minors
12:56is something
12:57that in USA
12:57there is also
12:58a lot of discussion
13:00about it
13:00and I would say
13:02that all over the world
13:03and also in the European Union
13:05because we see
13:06that really
13:06the online platforms
13:07many of them
13:08they have really changed
13:10to be more
13:11and more addictive
13:12so especially
13:13the young people
13:14they are using
13:15a lot of time
13:16online
13:16and also the content
13:18what is not shown
13:19for them
13:19it's not fitting
13:20for their age
13:21often
13:22also under DSA
13:23we have clear application
13:24for the online platforms
13:25that when minors
13:27are using these services
13:28very high level
13:30of privacy
13:30security and safety
13:32have to be insured
13:32for the minors
13:33and this is exactly
13:35a point
13:35where we are now
13:36investigating
13:36online platforms
13:37but this is something
13:38that we have also
13:40very much common interest
13:42with USA
13:42when it comes to
13:43online platforms
13:44and then everything
13:45what is related
13:46for example
13:47to innovations
13:47in the fields
13:48of AI
13:505G
13:516G
13:52cyber security
13:53also
13:53so we have
13:54many topics
13:55also
13:55where we are
13:56working very closely
13:57with USA
13:57okay
13:58let's bring in
14:00China
14:00if I may
14:02Europe faces
14:04significant reliance
14:05on Chinese
14:06technology
14:07especially
14:07in green energy
14:09rare earths
14:10solar
14:11to name
14:12batteries
14:13to name a few
14:13and digital sectors
14:16now these are
14:17strategic vulnerabilities
14:18in supply chains
14:20for critical materials
14:22that could risk
14:23economic disruption
14:24and security
14:26raise concern
14:27how much time
14:30will it take
14:31to get rid
14:32of these vulnerabilities
14:33this is not
14:35happening
14:36overnight
14:37as we know
14:38Europe has been
14:39very open
14:40for global investors
14:42and also
14:43global businesses
14:44and our industry
14:45has also
14:46built
14:46very long
14:48global value
14:49chains
14:49and supply chains
14:50and I think
14:51the first
14:52wake up call
14:53was really
14:53during the
14:54COVID pandemic
14:54because then
14:55we really
14:56realized
14:56how dependent
14:57we were
14:58in some
14:58critical sector
14:59of dirt
15:00countries
15:01when there
15:01was many
15:02travel restrictions
15:05posed
15:05and so on
15:06and suddenly
15:07we didn't get
15:08the components
15:08and raw materials
15:09what we needed
15:10I think
15:11it was the first
15:12wake up call
15:12really for that
15:13and after that
15:14when Russia
15:14started also
15:15full-scale war
15:16against Ukraine
15:17we saw also
15:18how dependent
15:19some European
15:20countries
15:20were on
15:21Russian energy
15:22and it took
15:23some years
15:23really also
15:24to change the path
15:26but now
15:27we are really
15:28looking at
15:29where we have
15:29the critical
15:30dependencies
15:31and how to make
15:32sure that we can
15:33also replace it
15:34with our own
15:35production
15:35but also that
15:36we can have
15:37partners all over
15:39the world
15:39that we are
15:40never dependent
15:41on one country
15:42or one source
15:43when it comes
15:43to some very
15:44critical fields
15:45of technologies
15:46and of course
15:47semiconductors
15:48we know
15:48that it's very
15:49vulnerable
15:50the supply chain
15:51there
15:52because the
15:52supply chains
15:53they are very
15:53global
15:53and they are
15:54very optimized
15:55so often
15:55one chip
15:56can travel
15:57thousands
15:57of kilometers
15:58before it's
15:59finalized
16:00so if something
16:01is happening
16:02some kind of
16:02incident
16:03in one part
16:04of the supply
16:04chain
16:05it's causing
16:06damages
16:06all over the world
16:08will Europe
16:09ever be able
16:10to get on
16:11an evil level
16:12with China
16:12again I would
16:15say that we
16:15have to
16:16build to our
16:17own strengths
16:18when we look
16:19our competitiveness
16:20and technological
16:21sovereignty
16:22and it means
16:23that we have
16:25to build
16:25our own
16:26capacity
16:26but also
16:27we need
16:27partners
16:28globally
16:29and when
16:30it comes
16:30to technological
16:31sovereignty
16:31it means
16:33that we
16:35have freedom
16:35always to
16:36choose
16:37with who
16:37and how
16:38we are
16:38operating
16:39that we
16:39are not
16:40dependent
16:40on one
16:41country
16:42one company
16:42we are not
16:43forced
16:44to one
16:44solution
16:44that we
16:45have always
16:46alternatives
16:47all right
16:48different topic
16:50are you in favor
16:51of social media
16:52bans
16:53for kids
16:54as planned
16:55by Emmanuel
16:56Macron
16:57in France
16:57I think
16:59that internet
17:00is nowadays
17:01very important
17:02part of our
17:03everyday life
17:04and society
17:05and it's
17:06very important
17:08to build
17:08up our
17:09digital
17:09skills
17:10but then
17:11in which
17:12age
17:12you can
17:13enter
17:13social media
17:14now
17:16the minimum
17:16level
17:17in the
17:17European
17:17level
17:18is very
17:18much
17:1813 years
17:19it comes
17:20to our
17:20GDPR
17:21and we
17:21are currently
17:22now
17:22investigating
17:23online
17:24platforms
17:24that how
17:25they are
17:25checking
17:25the age
17:27of the
17:27user
17:28because we
17:28know
17:28that some
17:29very small
17:30kids
17:30they have
17:30already
17:31their own
17:31social media
17:32accounts
17:32and now
17:34the member
17:35states
17:35are discussing
17:36that
17:36what is
17:36the right
17:37age
17:37really
17:37for that
17:38but we
17:39are focusing
17:39in our
17:39investigations
17:40now
17:40that online
17:41platforms
17:42are really
17:42taking
17:42their
17:43responsibility
17:43that high
17:44level
17:44of safety
17:45security
17:46and privacy
17:48is insured
17:48for our
17:49minors
17:50because it's
17:50obligation
17:51our
17:51DSA
17:52and in the
17:53same time
17:53we are also
17:54now investigating
17:54how the
17:56online platforms
17:56are really
17:57checking
17:57the age
17:58of the
17:58user
17:58and we
17:59have certain
18:00high risk
18:01services
18:02also
18:03and there
18:03we have
18:04to be
18:04very strict
18:05that they
18:05are really
18:06checking
18:06the age
18:06when we
18:07speak
18:07about
18:07gambling
18:08when we
18:09speak
18:09about
18:09adult
18:10platforms
18:11or
18:12selling
18:12alcohol
18:12or
18:13cigarettes
18:13so these
18:14are
18:14very
18:14high
18:15risk
18:16services
18:16and there
18:17we have
18:17to be
18:18sure
18:18that
18:18platforms
18:19are
18:19really
18:20verifying
18:21the age
18:21of the
18:21user
18:22but
18:22under
18:23that
18:24when it's
18:24not so
18:25high risk
18:25services
18:26we have
18:26to really
18:26look at
18:27what kind
18:27of
18:27technologies
18:28are
18:28used
18:29and
18:29how
18:29we
18:30will
18:30set
18:30also
18:31the
18:31minimum
18:32age
18:32there
18:32because
18:33of course
18:34it means
18:34that if
18:35we have
18:35very
18:35strict
18:36rules
18:37here
18:37then
18:38everybody
18:38should
18:39verify
18:39their
18:40age
18:40and
18:40in
18:40the
18:41same
18:41time
18:41we
18:41shouldn't
18:42have
18:42the
18:43situation
18:43that
18:43you
18:43have
18:43to
18:44give
18:44your
18:44personal
18:45data
18:45for
18:46online
18:46platform
18:46so
18:47we
18:47are
18:47also
18:47working
18:48now
18:48with
18:48the
18:48age
18:49verification
18:49tool
18:50that
18:50you
18:50can
18:50also
18:50verify
18:51your
18:51age
18:52without
18:52giving
18:52your
18:52own
18:53personal
18:53data
18:54commissioner
18:55we're
18:55living
18:56in
18:56challenging
18:57uncertain
18:58times
18:58and
18:59our
18:59conversation
19:00sort
19:00of
19:00reflected
19:01that
19:01now
19:02as
19:02we're
19:02still
19:03at
19:03the
19:03beginning
19:03of
19:04the
19:04year
19:042026
19:06give me
19:07one
19:08reason
19:08why
19:09we
19:09should
19:09all
19:10be
19:10optimistic
19:10I
19:12think
19:12we
19:12should
19:13be
19:13very
19:13optimistic
19:13because
19:14we
19:16have
19:16said
19:16from
19:16the
19:17European
19:17Union
19:17side
19:18now
19:18many
19:18times
19:18that
19:19this
19:19is
19:19really
19:19the
19:19independence
19:20moment
19:21of
19:21European
19:21Union
19:22so
19:23that
19:23we
19:23have
19:23to
19:23really
19:24build
19:24up
19:24our
19:25own
19:25capacity
19:25and
19:26competitiveness
19:26when
19:27it
19:27comes
19:27to
19:27defense
19:28security
19:29also
19:29technologies
19:30economy
19:31and
19:32we
19:32have
19:32everything
19:33what
19:33is
19:33needed
19:34to
19:34be
19:34strong
19:35in
19:35all
19:35these
19:35fields
19:36so
19:36when
19:37we
19:37are
19:37acting
19:38now
19:38together
19:38with
19:39speed
19:39we
19:40can
19:40be
19:40very
19:40strong
19:41and
19:41competitive
19:42in
19:42the
19:42coming
19:43years
19:43all
19:44right
19:44henna
19:45virkunen
19:45eu commissioner
19:46for
19:47technological
19:47sovereignty
19:48security
19:49and
19:49democracy
19:49thanks
19:50so
19:50much
19:50for
19:51coming
19:51on
19:51the
19:51show
19:51great
19:52conversation
19:52thank
19:53you
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