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02:24NATO in the high north, that could be
02:26Greenland, we would welcome that
02:28then there would be these trilateral
02:30dialogues
02:32between the US on one side
02:34and the Kingdom of Denmark consistent in this
02:36part of Greenland and Denmark on the other
02:38side and we still have to gain
02:40clarity about what is
02:42the American
02:43interests concretely because
02:46we really haven't heard anything
02:48yet and then there might be
02:50something regarding a more
02:52a closer business
02:54tie and that would be
02:56a whole other dialogue as well
02:58You mentioned that you
03:00are a country, you are
03:02a people and your Prime Minister
03:04has said that Greenland's
03:06sovereignty and integrity
03:08of its borders cannot be violated
03:10it's non-negotiable, yet
03:12Trump is saying in public that
03:14he wants full access
03:15to your country, do you think
03:18that a compromise is
03:20possible here?
03:21I think if you look at the
03:231951 agreement
03:24already in place, the US has
03:27wide access to Greenland and we
03:29have no problems with this
03:31we also do not have any problems
03:33with some sort of update
03:35of that agreement, but
03:37we would of course need to hear more in
03:39detail what that would entail
03:40and how that would be possible
03:43with our red lines, which is as you
03:45mentioned
03:45that we want the territory to be
03:48the realm to be intact
03:50and our sovereignty to be intact
03:51You are however Minister for
03:54Mineral Resources
03:55and we know that Greenland is a
03:58hotbed of critical raw materials
04:01Would that be up for negotiations
04:05that have increased American access to
04:07those resources, more mining contracts
04:10as part of the commercial deal that you
04:12reference?
04:12Well, I do not want to combine
04:14any form of defense agreement
04:17with access to our minerals
04:19We need to keep these things
04:20in their separate baskets
04:22if you will
04:23and we are very much open
04:25to investments and collaborations
04:27with the US
04:28We already have a memorandum of
04:30understanding that is from
04:312019 under Trump 1
04:33that we have been seeking
04:34to update
04:36But we cannot, I think, start to
04:38put it all together in the same
04:41basket because it's different
04:43things
04:43We cannot give another country
04:46full access to our minerals
04:47This is a rule-based country
04:51So we, of course, you need to
04:52follow the local rules and
04:54regulations in order to gain access
04:56But we have definitely every
04:58interest in deepening our
05:00relationship and figuring out
05:01how can we, to our mutual
05:04benefit, develop our mineral sector
05:05And several different investors
05:08countries are interested, of course
05:10in developing Greenland's
05:12mineral sector
05:13including some companies with
05:15Chinese links
05:16Do you understand that Trump has
05:20some concerns around that?
05:22And would you be willing to limit
05:24the extent to which the West's
05:27adversaries, such as China
05:29can invest in your mineral sector?
05:32Currently, as I'm aware, we have
05:34two Chinese companies invested in a
05:36mineral sector.
05:37Both of these licenses are inactive
05:39and both are being fought in court
05:41actually against the government of
05:43Greenland. So I don't see a lot of
05:45Chinese interest into a mineral
05:47sector. We don't see a lot of
05:49Chinese interference in our waters, as
05:54also mentioned. I think we have shown
05:56quite clearly throughout the years that
05:58where we stand in terms of allyships and
06:01partnerships, and we have clearly chosen
06:03the Western world as our partners, the
06:06European Union, the US, Canada, UK. And I think
06:12we have both in regulation and in policy
06:16shown where we stand.
06:17Minister, the past few days have been quite
06:22frightening for some Greenlanders, especially
06:25when Trump initially was using rhetoric
06:27such as the possibility of using force to
06:30seize the territory. You mentioned that there
06:34could potentially be dialogue around increased
06:36NATO presence. But do you think today that
06:40Europe and Western allies other than the US would
06:45be ready and able to defend Greenland if it was
06:49needed?
06:50I think there's more than one answer to that
06:52question, really. I think that NATO has proven
06:55itself to be a good alliance. The countries, the
06:58member states do not always agree on
07:00everything, but it has, I think, shown and given
07:03prosperity and peace to a wider part of the
07:06world than just the NATO member states. So I
07:08think it's a good alliance. Do I believe that
07:10everything will be unchanged in the future? If you
07:14look at the world historically, no, things have
07:16changed throughout the years and allies have
07:20shifted. And of course, this will also happen
07:22to us sometime in the future. I think that
07:25right now is a lot of wishful thinking in
07:27Europe, pining towards the things that were, but
07:32we are in a changing world order. And also like
07:35the Canadian prime minister said, the rupture
07:37already has happened. So I think we all need to
07:40find our footing in these new alliances and
07:42figure out how do we see itself going forward? What
07:45kind of values do we want to guide our future
07:48policies? And it's not going to be free. It's
07:51going to cost difficult discussions amongst
07:55allies, amongst friends and also economically in the
07:59country. So I think a lot of things are up in the air at
08:02this moment, not only in Greenland, but also in Europe and
08:06in the States. And we have to see where everything lands.
08:09You mentioned just very briefly that new world order, that
08:13rupture that Prime Minister Carney of Canada referred to. How
08:18fearful are you that Greenland could be particularly
08:21vulnerable, though, because we know of its strategic
08:23position in the Arctic. We know of its mineral wealth. And
08:27what does Greenland need to be able to defend itself in this
08:31new world order where it's might overwrite?
08:34Well, Greenland will never be able to defend ourselves
08:37military on our own. That has never been our plan. And we
08:41have always been vulnerable towards outside interest from
08:44bigger countries. We have been a colony in the past. We have
08:48been used to the an intense look upon our resources from the
08:53outside world. And I think he's done a great job trying to
08:56build a community based on international law and
08:59transparency and and democracy. But but mind you, if if
09:04Greenland is at stake in some form or other in the future, so is
09:09the entire Western world that would only be part of it, that
09:12would be mean that rupture was complete and that you can no
09:15longer rely on international law to be upheld. So so that would
09:20change the situation, not only in Greenland, but for everybody
09:23that is affected and.
09:25We rely ourselves with our values.
09:29Finally, what do you think these past weeks, months have done to the
09:34increasing calls for more self-determination and eventually even
09:38independence for Greenland? Do you think that has received a little bit
09:42of a setback and that you realize that your deeper reliance and connection
09:46with Denmark and with Europe? Or do you think there's still a case to be made
09:50about further self-determination for Greenland?
09:54Well, I think any country are working towards more self-determination.
09:57But in your country, I think it's very natural.
09:59And for us, this has never been a sprint.
10:02It has always been a marathon and we are working towards more self-determination
10:06within the kingdom of Denmark.
10:08And that is where the people's appetite is currently and has been for many years.
10:12So there has never been this imminent, complete sovereignty right around the corner.
10:18I think that has been something that has maybe been painted by outside media more
10:24than the actual discussions within Greenland.
10:26So we are working towards more self-determination in every aspect.
10:31If you look at the Greenland community and country, we have really built strong
10:36institutions in the last 30, 40 years or so, and really shown that we gradually take
10:43more and more responsibility for our own community and always with an underlying understanding
10:50that we are so few, 57,000 people currently, that we will never be able to gain fully independence
10:57and be able to defend our country military.
10:59That has never been a goal.
11:01It has always been a goal to gain more self-determination.
11:04And I think it's a very human want, and I think that will, of course, stay.
11:11I also think that the idea of freedom is a baseline for us.
11:22The idea that we can determine our own fate is very strong.
11:26And these past two weeks, I think, has really both caused concern, of course, but also I
11:34did take an anger beginning to come forward that people feel that what is happening now
11:43is unjust and they find it difficult to wrap their head around that an ally would treat us
11:49like that.
11:50Minister, many thanks for joining us on Euronews.
11:54Thank you.
11:55Thank you for having me.
11:55Have a nice day.
11:56Thank you.
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