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00:30Nestled between the Scottish highlands and lowlands is Loch Lomond.
00:44With a surface area of 27.5 square miles and a depth of 502 feet, it's the largest inland
00:51stretch of water in Great Britain.
00:55Loch Lomond is a lovely remote location that thousands and thousands of people enjoy every
01:07weekend.
01:08It's also regularly used for training by police divers.
01:12A police diving team must keep up their skills at all times.
01:25And in order to do this, they must train somewhere deep or somewhere in flowing water, no visibility,
01:34different environments to practice their skills.
01:36You know, the water in Loch Lomond is fairly cold all year round.
01:44As far as the diving team was concerned, we were in Loch Lomond on a regular basis.
01:49Quite a different variety of locations that we can find, from deep water to shallow water,
01:56from really, really good clear water to quite poor visibility.
02:07On a cold December morning, police diving supervisor Jeff Adams was leading a dive team on a training
02:14exercise near Loch Lomond's Rowerdennen Pier.
02:17This is Rowerdennen, where it all began.
02:24Nothing much has changed from 25 years ago.
02:28It was even colder than it is today, snow, rain, high winds.
02:34It was quite a horrible day.
02:36Jeff was on the pier running the operation as his team entered the icy water.
02:41We were just sending the divers out to make sure that they covered this large area.
02:47It was purely by accident that the divers were sent to an area that they suddenly saw these two black bin bags.
03:00Being inquisitive by nature and, if you like, by training, they went to have a look and see what was in these bags.
03:13The officer found an arm.
03:17He thought, initially, that his colleagues on shore were playing a practical joke on him.
03:24He thought it was a mannequin inside a black plastic bag.
03:27Either that or he thought, maybe this is a test to see if I'm doing my search properly.
03:32Either way, he came out of the water and held the arm aloft as if to say, yes, I found it.
03:41I was quite convinced that there was some kind of practical joke being played.
03:45Very quickly, we realized it wasn't.
03:49The discovery of a severed arm and part of a leg meant the area was now a crime scene.
03:55Strathclyde police were called in.
04:03I was a detective superintendent.
04:05I was in charge of the Ayrshire area.
04:09It was all very early in the Monday morning.
04:12It was an unusual crime in Scotland and, in fact, pretty much the UK for body parts to be turning up in a local loch.
04:24Once they realized there was a crime scene there, the surface area immediately around that point would have been sealed off from anyone else entering it apart from forensic people and the people that had to be there to investigate the crime.
04:42You need to make sure that everything is intact and secure so you'd put the body part into a polythene bag and make sure that that is sealed up so that nothing can escape it.
04:55You don't want to lose anything, skin sloughing off or anything else falling off the body.
05:02Once the limbs had been found, then they would start resorting back to proper search techniques and search patterns to start looking for any more evidence and to look for the rest of the body parts.
05:12With just an arm and part of a leg to work from, police turned to missing person records to shed light on who their victim might be.
05:27Meanwhile, a specialist water team scoured the loch using underwater cameras and sonar equipment.
05:35Sonar, it's a very crude method. It can find things, but what it can't do is say for definite that there's nothing there.
05:44So, technology-wise, you really can't beat the aspect of putting a police diver in to search it properly.
05:52So, recovery of the first two items would be roughly 15, 20 metres off the corner of the pier as we're looking at it.
06:07We continued the search later on and found another body part down in this corner of the pier.
06:14Every body of water has a tide of some sort, but it's too small to measure, and that's the case of Loch Lomond.
06:27Although it's the largest surface area of any freshwater body of water on the UK mainland,
06:33it still doesn't have any measurable tidal flow.
06:37So, most likely that the limbs were actually put into the water near the pier.
06:50By the 8th of December, divers had recovered two hands, two arms, two lower legs, one thigh and a foot.
06:59They were maybe of a slightly older male, but they weren't sure, and they were searching for further body parts.
07:06And by now, the search had attracted the attention of the press.
07:16At the time, the newspaper I was working for, we got a tip-off about the police were searching for body parts,
07:22but the assumption was that this was possibly some sort of gang-line crime-related incident,
07:28that possibly some criminals had fallen out, one had been murdered and these body parts disposed of.
07:35It's extremely difficult to dismember a body. You can't do it with knives that you usually keep in a kitchen.
07:47Somehow, there has to be some level of intention where they go out and buy various implements in order to saw the body into parts.
07:57Police were keeping an open mind. They also widened the search area.
08:09We realised that, you know, we hadn't found all the body parts to make up a human being.
08:14In the next phase, that you're trying to think, right, if they're not here, where are they?
08:19So you then have to look at any other possible sites where someone could have access to presumably a vehicle and be able to dump things in the water.
08:31Officers and the police diving team moved their search seven miles south along Loch Lomans shoreline to the quiet village of Balmaha.
08:49We were fairly confident that this would be a prime location for finding more because of accessibility and remote area, very, very limited police presence.
09:03Conditions here, underwater, are quite different to what we'd find at Rower Denning, whereas Rower Denning is clear, quite sandy bottom here, quite muddy and very, very poor visibility, which made the search of this area really quite difficult.
09:22It's often asked if we do underwater lights and everything else, which obviously we did have access to.
09:28It's effective like putting your main beam on in the fog.
09:32Suddenly you can see absolutely nothing. So, unfortunately, you're down in the mud and you're working with your fingertips.
09:41Now, why a murderer would choose to dispose of a body in water instead of burying it on land?
09:47Maybe due to the belief that they're less likely to be caught if the body parts or a body is dropped into water.
09:56The offenders think that the body is likely to disappear or be eaten by fish.
10:05As the days developed, it was a very fast-moving story. I think people were very, very concerned. There was a kind of fear and undercurrent.
10:13For police, the race was now on to capture an individual with clear, sadistic tendencies.
10:20On the conditional body parts, we found at Balmaha, you can see quite clearly that handcuffs had been used.
10:28But you're not used to seeing them having made such an impression on a human body, particularly to put handcuffs around someone's lower leg.
10:37One of the things that comes to mind immediately when I think about somebody who's restrained against their will with handcuffs is this need to dominate in control and that being part of the sexual turn-on for that person.
10:54It's very rare to see situations where somebody is handcuffing somebody because they're wanting to kill them for money or kill them for revenge.
11:01By now, detectives had finished searching the missing person reports and had a possible name for their victim.
11:11But it's not one they or the press were expecting.
11:15Detectives in Scotland are scouring missing persons lists, trying to identify the murder victim whose dismembered body parts have been found in Loch Lomond.
11:32Now, they have a possible name.
11:36Barry Wallace.
11:37Last seen the day before the body parts were discovered.
11:41Barry Wallace was 18 years of age and he was going out for a Christmas night out with his friends and his colleagues from a local supermarket in Glamarnock.
12:06He'd had quite a lot to drink. He was last seen drunk, walking about Glamarnock, trying to get a taxi. He didn't arrive home.
12:16He had no previous history of going missing. He had no previous history of any involvement in criminality.
12:27He was a good lad. His parents were concerned about where he was and when he hadn't come back late on the Sunday night and didn't report for work on the Monday morning, he was reported as a missing person.
12:41Barry Wallace disappeared into thin air. There was no backstory. There was no family issues.
12:47Just a normal teenager enjoying a Christmas night out and with his future ahead of him.
13:03Fifty miles north of Kilmarnock, the police search of Loch Lomond continued.
13:08On land, you can easily mark out search areas because everything is visible. Underwater is very, very different because the people on the surface can't see what's going on underneath.
13:26You're looking at the distance out that the diver is from the bank. And so just by taking measurements from the diver's lifeline as to how far out they are, how far along the search pattern they are, you can actually log on your underwater plan exactly what areas have been searched.
13:44You've also got to think, if these limbs have been thrown into the water, how far out can they have been thrown? How far out are they likely to have drifted?
13:59Meanwhile, a pathologist examined the recovered limbs for clues about the murder weapon and what tools might have been used to dismember the body.
14:08It is actually very hard indeed to dismember a body cleanly. Sometimes there are marks associated with the cuts in the flesh that suggest it may be a serrated material.
14:32Sometimes a chainsaw is used, that leaves a different cutting impression. Sometimes a grinding wheel, once again, a different impression.
14:42You'd be looking at both the soft tissues, the muscles and the skin, but also any cuts through bone which are much better at reproducing the implement that was used.
14:52Parts of the bones were transported by road to specialists in England, but all they could say was they were cut with a fine-toothed saw.
15:04If we were hoping for maybe something more specific that we could focus a part of the investigation on, but that just came to a dead end, unfortunately.
15:12Officers suspected missing person, Barry Wallace, was the victim whose body parts they had found, but they still had no definite proof.
15:25Until the 15th of December, and the most grisly discovery yet.
15:43At a beachfront on Scotland's west coast, more than 50 miles from Loch Lomond.
15:50A lady had been walking her dog, and her dog had noticed two bags, and was pulling at the bags.
16:07And when she went up, she saw that there was a human head.
16:09To the best of my recollection, it was just down near where the rocky area starts, and where do you see the bits of seaweed lying in that kind of area there.
16:34Disposing your body at sea is tricky in many ways.
16:36In some places, the tide's very weak or nonexistent.
16:40In other places, they're incredibly strong.
16:42We can get flows in excess of 15 miles an hour in some places, which is phenomenal.
16:49As the tide goes back and forth, so a body might go at great speed in one direction, but six and a half hours later, it comes back again.
16:58We can only assume that it was the temperature of the sea water that preserved the head.
17:08Being cold, of course, is really important for us. It preserves the tissues. It preserves the cut marks. It preserves evidence. And that's what we want.
17:21So if it's been out of the water in a warm environment for two or three days before being deposited, that's going to have a significant effect.
17:30But if, on the other hand, the individual's died, it's put quickly into water, preservation is going to be much, much better.
17:43In this case, the head was so well preserved, it was even possible to confirm the victim's identity.
17:49Unfortunately, it was Bari.
18:05It was a big step forward for investigators, but the coastal nature of the crime scene put them under time pressure.
18:12You've got access by the public along the beach, so you're going to have to coordinate all off.
18:21You're then dealing with the tides. If the tide comes in, it's going to bring in sea creatures that like fleshy parts of human bodies.
18:30You're wanting to get this skull recovered as quickly as possible, photographed, bagged up, and taken out of the way, out of that environment, before the sea and everything that lives in it comes back in.
18:51I knew I was going to have to go and see his parents.
18:54They're two of the nicest people I've ever met.
19:01One of the family liaison officers took Bari's dad to Glasgow City Marcery to identify him.
19:10I think people were horrified. I think they were absolutely stunned, shocked and horrified that an innocent boy, and he was, could end up in this situation.
19:34Barry Wallace had gone missing in the early hours of the Sunday morning, and then the first body parts are found very early on the Monday morning.
19:46So whoever has done this has done it very quickly, and could well have done something like that before.
19:54The offender would be someone who would be callous, have no empathy for anyone, would be extremely selfish and possibly impulsive.
20:08Now the police would then look to see who in the area had a criminal record, especially for violence.
20:15The main trade that we were focused on was dismemberment.
20:22Initially a check was made in the police computer system, and there was a very short list of one person who had an M.O. of carrying out dismemberment.
20:33We had a suspect right on our doorstep.
20:35In a chilly Scottish loch, police have found and identified the remains of 18-year-old Barry Wallace.
20:54As soon as the search was made, they realized that it was actually a human body part.
21:03The police search was in Scotland like wildfire, because that's a very uncommon occurrence.
21:09This was absolutely only horrific. This was of the scale.
21:14Now, they also have a suspect, a known local offender by the name of William Frederick Beggs.
21:22A man with a violent past.
21:35Beggs had previously stood trial for an incident in Kilmarnock eight years earlier in 1991, where he had invited a gentleman back to his home.
21:45They had met in a gay bar in Glasgow, and this person had been given a drink that was drugged.
21:54And he fell unconscious and woke up to find Beggs attacking him with a knife and trying to cut him up or slash him.
22:02This particular individual jumped out a window to escape Beggs, and he was found by a local resident taking to hospital.
22:12Beggs was arrested.
22:13Beggs was sentenced to six years for the attack. And there was more.
22:22He had also previously been imprisoned for the murder of a 28-year-old man in 1987.
22:27But the conviction was quashed on appeal.
22:32They had led the trial of murder with instances that Beggs had carried out woundings of other men.
22:38And it was deemed that because they had led that, it was unfair and might have tainted the jury's opinion of him as far as the murder is concerned.
22:47And the appeal was upheld and he was released.
22:52Beggs' lawyers succeeded in their appeal.
22:56Under English law at the time, he couldn't be retried for the same crime.
23:01So he was a free man.
23:04Beggs started a new life, moving north to Scotland.
23:09We knew that he had been convicted of a murder in Teesside.
23:12We knew that he had got off with that murder on a technicality.
23:17But although the conviction was overturned, the details of that murder, for which Beggs was the only suspect,
23:23were worryingly similar to the crime police were now investigating.
23:27There had been attempts to dismember the limbs.
23:32Dismembering a body is extremely a rare thing to happen after someone has killed someone.
23:38And in that particular case, there was evidence that he tried to dismember the body.
23:42And this case went to court, and due to a miscarriage of the court proceedings, he successfully appealed and was out of prison after three years.
23:55The officers who worked in Kilmarnock were aware of his previous convictions, and they were keeping an eye out on him.
24:07Police didn't publicly name Beggs as a person of interest, but it wasn't long before the media came to its own conclusions.
24:15It actually exploded as far as press-wise went, because the press too had started to find out about Beggs.
24:24The media was asked the question, you've got somebody on your doorstep who's committed a similar crime, why aren't you arresting them?
24:30The press's freedom to speculate risked jeopardizing the entire police investigation, and enabling Barry Wallace's murderer to evade justice completely.
24:44Because he was only a suspect, they just printed what they wanted to.
24:49It was a really difficult, challenging time for the family, because there were things put in the papers, likes of Beggs had Barry's head in his fridge.
25:05They were also printing things about Beggs' previous incidents, about his previous convictions, about his lifestyle.
25:14All that does is prejudice a future trial, because an individual's supposed to have a fair trial without any background or previous convictions being brought into public knowledge.
25:25The case was unsettling an entire community, so police wasted no time in putting together a timeline which might offer more clues.
25:42We already had a sequence of events in terms of Barry's last movements.
25:47We then had to try and do the same thing with Beggs.
25:50We realized that same morning that Barry had been last seen in the town centre, Beggs would roughly be approaching Kilmarnock, and he would come in that same way that Barry was walking, and it would be around the same time.
26:06This is how they have actually been able to meet up.
26:11Tracing prime suspect Beggs' movements, hour by hour, day by day, police made another key discovery.
26:20On December 7th, Beggs took a ferry from Troon on Scotland's west coast over to Northern Ireland.
26:36We believe that when he was taking the sea cat from Troon to Ireland to see his parents, that that was when he probably threw Barry's head off the side of the ferry.
26:47Suspect Beggs may have thought disposing of the head from a moving vessel would make it less likely to be found.
26:58He was wrong.
26:59Does it make a difference that the head was dropped from a height from a ferry rather than placed in much lower?
27:08It makes no difference at all to the path of that head, and it would still wash up on that beach.
27:13And we can demonstrate that here by taking an object, placing it in gently to the surface of the ocean.
27:21And it goes along with the flow at a fairly steady rate, and after 30 seconds it reaches a point further down there.
27:28We can then repeat that, but this time, rather than placing it in carefully, we're going to drop it from height.
27:33So we're dropping it from the deck, say, of a ferry.
27:37It goes into the water, makes a splash, but actually very quickly it finds its level in the sea, and it goes with exactly the same currents as it would have done had it been put in the ocean at the surface.
27:48Police widened their investigation from the coast to the suspect's apartment in Kilmarnock.
27:57We knew that if the murder had taken place in that location, in his home, then somewhere there had to be evidence and traces of Barry Wallace in that flat.
28:11A warrant was promptly issued for detectives to gain access, but the press were already there.
28:31Now, this was a high profile case, so when the police went and raided the house, journalists knew about it.
28:36A lot of the journalists were already there when the police arrived.
28:41When we got there, the flat was empty, Beggs was not in.
28:47We assumed he was at his work, but we didn't know at that time where he worked.
28:52So at that point, the house was sealed and the search started to take place.
28:58And the media's fascination with the case was about to cause a major problem.
29:03There was a radio broadcast that suspect, in the case of Barry Wallace, his house had been raided in Kilmarnock.
29:11Beggs is at work, he hears this news broadcast, realising it was about him.
29:16That he fled, that he'd gone on the run.
29:18That was very frustrating for us, very frustrating.
29:31But on the 28th of December, wanted man Beggs made another unexpected move, handing himself in to Dutch police.
29:40And he did so with one of the top extradition lawyers in Amsterdam.
29:45His lawyer made it clear that he was pleading that he was innocent, and that he was not wanting to be extradited.
29:51The decision by Beggs to hand himself out to Dutch police created a major problem for the authorities.
29:58The Netherlands was one of the most difficult countries to be extradited from.
30:02And his plan was that we would never get him back.
30:06He is somebody who has studied the legal system, is committed to using it as much as possible to his advantage.
30:13And he's been able to do that in the past, where one of his convictions was overturned on appeal.
30:18This time though, Begg's scheme backfired.
30:24Back in those days, you only had 110 days between when somebody was detained or arrested before trial started.
30:33So the timescales were really, really tight.
30:37But because he was fighting extradition, it allowed the inquiry team to carry further, more exhaustive investigations.
30:48Forensic officers returned to the wanted man's home, and spent several weeks gathering more evidence.
30:58The first significant findings were items of blood.
31:03Those blood samples were examined, and they were then found to be Barry Wallace's blood.
31:07Detectives hoped Barry's remains would help provide a timeline for his murder.
31:20But the dumping of the body in water made this challenging.
31:23If a body's been recovered on land, it's a lot easier to identify the time of death.
31:37Underwater, it does make it more difficult, purely because of the way water reacts with the flesh of the body.
31:44Often with bodies that are recovered from the water, the only real idea of how long the body's been there
31:50is because someone's seen the body go into the water.
31:56Police investigating the suspect's past tried to establish what might have motivated him to commit such disturbing crimes.
32:05So what we know about William Beggs is he's an intelligent man, he has a degree.
32:09William Beggs was a very respectful family in Northern Ireland.
32:15Both his mother and father were pillars of the community, God-fearing, church-going people.
32:20Beggs had been brought up in that environment.
32:23But being raised in a community where being gay was stigmatized,
32:28suspected killer Beggs went to extreme lengths to conceal his own homosexuality.
32:33It would be incredibly confusing to have this religious indoctrination which is telling you that your natural preferences,
32:42your natural interests are sins and can result in some eternal damnation or something like that.
32:49As a person grows up, it's not uncommon for that self-hatred and that anger and confusion to begin to be directed outward.
32:57In the case of Wanted Man Beggs, this took the form of attacks on men, which started at a young age.
33:06The first record of Beggs committing violence was when he knifed a teenager on a camping trip when he was a young teenager himself.
33:17There seemed to be the beginnings of what we could identify as a pattern in his behavior.
33:23In a whole history of cutting people in youth hostels, he was banned from youth hostels in the Balmaha area for that very practice.
33:33Detectives also appealed to the gay community for more information and got an immediate response.
33:40People in that community started coming forward to speak with us because a lot of them were frightened of him.
33:45So this realization that this is a really dangerous man, this was a fiend, it was a monster.
33:52We needed to get him behind bars for everyone's safety.
34:04Police focused their efforts on bringing suspect Beggs back from Amsterdam to Scotland.
34:10We had to present a case that was a sufficiency of evidence for a trial to be held and for a conviction to be secured, otherwise we would not be able to exit the title.
34:23Then came news of a morbid breakthrough.
34:34So by around the 8th of January, Barry's torso had been found a mile and a half away from Balmaha, where his other body parts had been.
34:43The torso would have been dumped in that location. You can drive quite closely to it, in which case he could have then just carried it to the water's edge and put it into the water.
35:06Police had now recovered most of the victim's body.
35:09The fact that the parts of the body were spread over four different locations, it gives you an idea that the offender was clearly trying to spread the body parts around to make it harder to find.
35:24And he's gone to a lot of trouble to visit these places, to dispose of them.
35:28We took the torso to the mortuary where it was given a post-mortem examination.
35:44Clearly, deterioration would have progressed, there's no doubt at all, and the torso containing the bowel is more prone to decomposition, but there is still plenty to see.
35:54Police had strong suspicions that Beggs could have drugged his victim.
36:01The torso is likely to give the best samples, samples of blood remaining within the heart, remaining within the major blood vessels, maybe some urine present within the bladder or within the kidneys.
36:15These can then be analyzed for any drug residues.
36:21But the post-mortem failed to find drugs in the victim's system, despite a needle mark on an arm.
36:27The dismemberment also made it impossible to prove a cause of death.
36:32Things can be hidden, covered up, disturbed, and the presumption is that something violent has happened, but the truth also is that we don't always know for certain.
36:47And remember, in a court of law, we have to be certain beyond reasonable doubt rather than just have a good guess.
36:54Have a good guess.
36:59This was a serious blow to the extradition case, but what the pathologist uncovered next would shock the entire team.
37:07The dismembered body of 18-year-old Barry Wallace, found in Loch Lomond, has now undergone a post-mortem.
37:22It revealed new and horrifying details.
37:26We realized there was evidence of sexual assault.
37:28The pathologist can't actually talk about consent, but when we look at this type of injuries, you can say the injuries were so severe that it's highly unlikely in someone without a known masochistic tendency to be prepared to accept that degree of violence.
37:51Add that to the presence of handcuffs, add that to the presence of other injuries, and it really points very strongly to a very violent sexual assault as a component of a violent overall assault.
38:10William Beggs was gay, and the assumption is that perhaps his latest victim may be homosexual, but in fact he wasn't.
38:18Barry Wallace was a heterosexual.
38:21Beggs had admitted he preferred to have the company of what he regarded as straight men, and it appeared that his enjoyment came from forceful homosexual activity or rape of his victim.
38:39The fact that he chooses to go out and essentially troll for men who are not gay, I think does speak to this anger and this sadism and this pleasure he might get in not only taking advantage of young men who might be intoxicated, but young men who would find being sexually assaulted by a man particularly horrifying.
39:06At that point we had to make Barry's parents aware, and I'd always told them I would speak to them, I'd always told them I would tell the truth, and I don't think I had a more difficult conversation in my entire police career.
39:23After months of investigating, the extradition case against wanted man Beggs was granted, but he appealed, and things ground to a halt yet again.
39:42They appealed on the basis that due to the press coverage, he could not receive a fair trial in Scotland.
39:51If Beggs won that appeal, the police's prime suspect would swerve justice altogether.
39:59But eventually they ruled that Beggs could be sent back to Scotland or extradited back to Scotland.
40:11And he was absolutely shocked.
40:13During the trial at Edinburgh High Court, a picture emerged of what happened to victim Barry Wallace in the final hours of his life.
40:33I genuinely believe what happened was that Beggs was coming into Kilmarnock.
40:39Barry Wallace was walking home.
40:41Beggs has offered him a lift.
40:44Barry was drunk.
40:45They've gone to Beggs' flat.
40:47Beggs has given him something, and that he's passed out.
40:50When Barry's been waking up, he is being sexually assaulted.
40:55And during that time as well, he had been handcuffed, and he'd been struggling so hard that he actually scraped the bones in his wrist.
41:06It was described by a very senior police casualty surgeon as the worst handcuff injury he had ever witnessed.
41:14And the prosecution called one witness, who revealed a chilling detail of the timeline.
41:20On the Sunday, Beggs made a phone call to one of his close friends and said that he'd picked up a young, sweet guy the night before.
41:33Now, when you look at the timeline, it's more than likely that that's when he was at or near to Loch Lomond, either going to deposit Barry's remains or coming back from.
41:48So it's chilling.
41:51Then more forensic evidence emerged, tying Beggs to the crime.
41:57When it was reported that Beggs had fled the country, he drove down to Luton Airport, where his car was eventually discovered.
42:03His car revealed blood as well. Barry's blood.
42:07But the defence team claimed the victim had consented to sex, and that the death was the consequence of a sex game gone wrong between them.
42:22One of the arguments of the defence had been that this wasn't a murder, that it was a culpable homicide or manslaughter, as known in other countries.
42:32And that, of course, would have meant a lesser sentence.
42:35And there was a bit of a dramatic moment when the jury came back to ask for some guidance from the judge on the difference between what's culpable homicide and murder.
42:45And that led us to believe that there might be a fighting, there might be acquitting of a murder.
42:52The jury were given clarification, and the detail of the victim's injuries was read out.
42:57Then the jury of 15 men and women retired to make their decision.
43:02There was massive pressure to get a conviction, first and foremost, for Barry's mum and dad and his brother, because they deserved that.
43:12We also wanted a conviction to prevent this from ever happening again.
43:17After a trial lasting nearly three weeks, William Frederick Beggs was found guilty of the murder of Barry Wallace.
43:36He was sentenced to life imprisonment, but the recommendation for minimal custodial was 20 years.
43:46Under Scottish law, it meant Beggs wouldn't even be considered for parole for two full decades.
43:54My recollection that there wasn't a lot of reaction from Beggs whether he was resigned to the outcome.
44:03But even with the killer behind bars, some questions still remained.
44:09I'm a firm believer that there are other victims.
44:13The initial search of the house took several days.
44:17There were some carpets underlay and then floorboards.
44:21What I started to find was stains or blood, human blood, male human blood, which was not identified and still have not been identified.
44:30They found blood samples of 17 other males, which suggests that other men have been in that flat, other young men have been attacked and possibly even murdered.
44:43Who else has been in that property that has lost blood to that extent?
44:53Not only would it be difficult for a male to come forward with sexual violence.
44:57There's the whole issue of if this person is straight and they're raped by a gay man.
45:03I think that it is unfortunately not uncommon for that person to wonder, why did this person choose me?
45:09What does it say about my own sexuality?
45:12And then he's picking men who are much less likely to come forward.
45:15So he is stacking the deck as much as possible in his favour.
45:19The impact this guy has had on the Wallace family is beyond belief.
45:27But not just the Wallace family, other families in this country and in other countries.
45:34He's been, in my opinion, a serial predator.
45:38With the family, while everyone was pleased that there was a conviction, it didn't alter what they had gone through.
45:50It didn't alter what had happened to Barry.
45:55And I think they have shown tremendous courage in the way that they have continued their lives since then.
46:08To be continued...
46:38If someone asks...
46:41...
46:43Come on...
46:44Do you want to...
46:48To go..
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