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00:00Please open the chest, in three, two, one.
00:26Ralph Palme, are you sorry?
00:30Oh, my God!
00:34Jack, I'm in the name of Dave.
00:54Hello and welcome to the Traitor's Uncloaked grand finale.
00:57I'm Ed Gamble and I'm here at the BBC Radio Theatre with an amazing audience made up of Traitors and Faithful.
01:03So, what have we got coming up in this final episode?
01:09Claudia Winkleman can finally spill all on this incredible series of the Traitors.
01:15Chest of Chance victim James and finalist Jade reflect on going to battle at the round table, the ceremonial dagger and surviving suspicion.
01:21Finalists Faraz and Jack talk us through that nail-biting endgame.
01:25And our historic winners Rachel and Stephen will be joining us for their first ever interviews.
01:31Make sure you're sitting comfortably because this is the Traitors Uncloaked grand finale.
01:35We'll be bringing on the players shortly, but before that I'm thrilled to once again introduce the truly incredible Claudia Winkleman!
01:49Welcome.
01:51Thank you so much for having me.
01:53Welcome, Claudia.
01:54I just love seeing everybody look.
01:56No.
01:57Look how smart they look.
01:58Look how gorgeous.
01:59Very gorgeous.
02:00All alive, crucially.
02:01They're all alive.
02:02Yes, vital.
02:03Very nice.
02:04Thank you for joining us again from Uncloaked, Claudia.
02:06An amazing final episode.
02:08What was it like watching it all back?
02:10Emotional, because I was watching with the entire cast, and I believe that none of you knew the outcome.
02:19So it was really thrilling, then everyone standing up at the end.
02:23It's emotional.
02:24I mean, you can see when I do it, I get a bit too in.
02:28You are invested.
02:29I cried before Rachel and Stephen.
02:33It was weird.
02:34A lot of tears at the end there.
02:36Is that very happy to see them win, but also it's that sort of tension that's been built up across the whole game?
02:41Absolutely.
02:42And you really didn't know which way it was going to go.
02:46I mean, just listening to Stephen breathing at that endgame, I was like, oh my goodness.
02:52And so just the relief.
02:54And they were so happy.
02:55And I found their end and their love for each other incredibly moving.
03:01Why do you think they were able to make it to the end together?
03:04What do you think that was special about them?
03:06I think that, I mean, the entire cast, I'm not just saying this because you're sitting opposite me, were utterly magnificent.
03:15And what I loved about Rachel and Stephen, from the very beginning, you can almost watch it back knowing what you know now.
03:23They just looked after each other without being obvious, without going, no, no, no, they're fine.
03:27If something came into play, she was like, all right, I'm just going to do this to look after him.
03:31And he would do the same for her.
03:33And they made that alliance.
03:34And we've never seen that before.
03:35Lots of people make alliances and they last, you know, an episode, five minutes.
03:40But they decided, and not Romeo and Juliet, because that ended badly, but Bonnie and Clyde, I don't know, but they were lovers in the turret.
03:52And they stuck together.
03:54Claudia, I think they edited a lot of that out, actually.
03:58You know what I mean.
04:00I know you mean.
04:01You know, it was, it was, they were totally faithful to each other.
04:05And of course, we have to talk about the big twist for this series, the secret traitor.
04:10Yes.
04:11Why did you think Fiona would fit that role particularly?
04:13I mean, how can we not?
04:15Look at her.
04:16Well, I mean, Fiona was so convincing about how people treat women of a certain age, and she was so twinkly.
04:27I just wanted to put her in my pocket.
04:29I absolutely loved her.
04:30So, yeah, we had to give her the red cloak.
04:32So, of course, we had a lot of amazing faithfuls this series as well.
04:35Amazing.
04:36One in particular was Jessie, who was on to Stephen and would not let go of the Stephen theory.
04:42How did it feel at those round tables when Jessie was going after Stephen?
04:46Well, it's extraordinary.
04:47My, not my favourite, but always, I love a Maddie.
04:50I love a Jazz.
04:51I love a Jessie, who knew, I knew really early.
04:55And there was a brilliant moment when everybody's talking and Jessie goes off in, I think, into the dining room going,
05:02listen to them, wanging on, nobody's listening to me.
05:06Not quite like that, you use better words.
05:08Yeah.
05:09It was extraordinary.
05:11She laid it out, the Library Five.
05:13She just laid, it was all there, and everybody went, aww.
05:16And they love you.
05:17And they did love you.
05:19And you were, they adored you.
05:22And they would go, oh, thank you, Jessie.
05:24No, I think it's probably somebody else.
05:26And I was like, she's got it.
05:28You are, you are the series detective, I think.
05:31Am I?
05:32Yeah, I think so.
05:33Yay!
05:35Apologies, Amanda.
05:37I'm the new detective.
05:38Oh, no, yeah, well, you're one of the only people who's not actually a police person.
05:41Yes.
05:42Yes, no, no.
05:44We've been doing, because obviously we've had Jazz of the Christie in the past.
05:47Jazz of the Christie?
05:48So we've been trying to think of one for you.
05:49What can my name be?
05:50You're thinking Jessica Fletcher?
05:51Jessica Fletcher.
05:52Oh, okay.
05:53We're happy with that?
05:54Good.
05:55Woo!
05:56Love that.
05:57Harriet also extraordinary.
05:58Yeah.
05:59I mean, unbelievable.
06:00Yeah, I mean, yeah.
06:01Yeah, there's been, there's been people vying for that, for that title.
06:04I mean, a huge amount of drama with Harriet in the talk to the traitors.
06:08It was the greatest, I think it was my favourite moment ever.
06:12And I am in the castle and I'm lucky enough that I have a monitor, which I don't leave.
06:17I just, like, eating everything, just staring at it.
06:20And you were talking to the traitors and I had to do something early the next morning
06:25and it was quite late, as you know.
06:26And they said, Claudia, you've got to go home.
06:28And I was like, do not even say that to me.
06:31And when you used the word compunction, oh.
06:35It was almost erotic, Harriet.
06:38And just the fact that you knew, you knew with Hugo as well.
06:42You were so brilliant.
06:44And then that breakfast, yeah, you were magnificent.
06:48Well, as always, Claudia, it's been an absolute delight watching you on the show.
06:55And we know you don't like this bit.
06:57I can't bear it.
06:58But it's the unclosed finale, so we have to have a look at your best bit.
07:06Are they on their way?
07:08Good.
07:09Keep an eye on them.
07:11One thousand pounds added to the pot.
07:17And Sam might die.
07:19Harsh but true.
07:22Sorry.
07:23Don't mind my friends.
07:24They don't bite.
07:26If they're fed.
07:28Oh!
07:29No thank you.
07:30No thank you.
07:31I mean, we've all had childcare days right now.
07:33Stop the murder!
07:34They're like a police officer.
07:37I know friendships have been formed.
07:41But please remember, a friend might be lying to you.
07:45A friend might be planning to murder you.
07:50Get dry.
07:51For goodness sake, have a biscuit.
07:53Just when they think they know how to play.
07:57Bring it to me!
08:00Oh, God.
08:01Sorry.
08:03Faithful, what are you thinking?
08:06I am genuinely speechless.
08:09Oh, my God!
08:16Ha-ha!
08:18I'm going to go and chop some cheese with it.
08:23We'll be talking to our endgame players very soon,
08:28but I'm thrilled to now welcome to the stage,
08:30James and finalist, James!
08:32Yay!
08:36Welcome.
08:37Welcome to Uncloaked.
08:38Both of you are very excited to have you here with us.
08:40Uh, but James, you were particularly forthright
08:42in your suspicions throughout.
08:44So, let's have a look at the moment when you and Roxy
08:46finally found out who the traitors were.
08:49I think I might be in for a little bit of a shock,
09:04but I have to ask, what are you, James?
09:08So you're assuming I'm...
09:09A traitor.
09:10OK.
09:11Absolutely.
09:12So, I'm happy to confirm for you that I am...
09:15A...
09:17Traitful.
09:18Graceful.
09:19Grateful.
09:21Vengeful.
09:23Spiteful.
09:24Cheerful.
09:25Faithful.
09:26Oh, my gosh!
09:27I'm not faithful!
09:29I'm the worst faithful in the land at this point.
09:31Me and you were just going at that.
09:32I even said, like, there's a chunk of me
09:34that thinks me and you are just passionate faithfuls.
09:36We were!
09:37Seeing as you're not a traitor.
09:39I'm sorry.
09:40Who do you think they are?
09:41I think Rachel is.
09:42She's my number one.
09:43OK.
09:44I'm fearing there's two.
09:46I think Faraz is the other one.
09:48Ooh.
09:49And if there's a third, which would be ridiculous,
09:51Stephen.
09:53Really?
09:54So you think Jack and Jade are 100% faithful?
09:55I just can't see it.
09:56Shall we find out?
09:57Yeah, let's do it.
09:58Some blind faithfuls.
09:59I don't even want to know now.
10:01This is horrendous.
10:02Here we go.
10:03Here we go.
10:04Stephen.
10:05Oh, my goodness!
10:06The little...
10:07Honestly, that's mental!
10:08Isn't that another one?
10:09Ah!
10:10It's Rachel!
10:11Yes!
10:12Oh!
10:13Oh, wow.
10:14She's toast.
10:15She nearly went, Faraz.
10:16Wow, he wasn't.
10:17Oh, no.
10:18This is so mental.
10:19I am so sorry for coming at you so hard.
10:20Please don't be sorry.
10:21It kept me in the game and it probably kept you in the game.
10:22Incredible.
10:23And you can watch Roxy and James' reactions later in full on the BBC Sounds socials.
10:27Now, James.
10:28Hello, sir.
10:29Hello, sir.
10:30You named both of the remaining traitors there as your suspicions.
10:32Uh, at what point did you suspect Rachel?
10:34Because I think you did have some suspicions before you left as well, of course.
10:37Yeah, slightly earlier than, uh, I laid out there to be honest, it's...
10:43full on the BBC Sounds socials.
10:45Now, James.
10:46Hello, sir.
10:47You named both of the remaining traitors there
10:50as your suspicions.
10:51At what point did you suspect Rachel?
10:54Because I think you did have some suspicions
10:55before you left as well, of course.
10:56Yeah, slightly earlier than I laid out there, to be honest.
11:00I think she likes me.
11:01I think she gets on with me, you know, the classic blinded by that.
11:04And I think she knows I trust her, but I don't.
11:06You know, it's just too many scrapes.
11:07I thought if I somehow get anywhere near the endgame,
11:10I can't end it with her.
11:11And it was narrowing it down who you can end it with.
11:13There weren't many.
11:15This young lady and Jack were the only two I could be
11:17as sure as I could be on from about halfway through onwards.
11:20So, I mean, you're pretty bang on the money, really.
11:23But slightly too late.
11:24I find if you name every cast member at least once...
11:26James. What?
11:30James, I think everyone would agree
11:31you were a total force of nature in there.
11:34You're incredible.
11:34Every episode delivering something entertaining.
11:37And obviously ended it in fittingly dramatic style
11:39with the chest of chance,
11:41the second chest of chance of the series,
11:43the third chest of chance in two series of The Traitors.
11:45Talk us through your final moments in the game with those chests.
11:49I mean, it sounds bizarre, but as a fanboy,
11:52I'm like, how have I got here?
11:53Traitor versus Faithful to get into the final.
11:56This is like the stuff of dreams.
11:57Like, how has this happened?
11:58Now, Jade, you initially voted for James
12:01in that final roundtable that he was there for.
12:04And then you switched your vote to Rachel.
12:06Why did you do that?
12:07Because she's smart.
12:10Um, James's arguments were just not...
12:14It was just making me more confused.
12:16And then I was like, right, take a step back.
12:19Who should I actually be voting for here?
12:20Who did I walk into the room with?
12:22And it was Rachel.
12:23So I was like, this is an opportunity to rectify that wrong.
12:25Claudia, that's another third chest of chance,
12:27like I say, that we've had in two series.
12:29I can't, I can't even, I don't know what to say about it
12:32because I, yeah, I come in with a tray,
12:36which, by the way, is much heavier than it looks.
12:39So I'm like, hello.
12:41Um, yeah.
12:43But it's incredibly dramatic for everybody.
12:45And I think the final plea is a really good opportunity.
12:50Both you and Rachel did it brilliantly.
12:52And then the idea that two of you swapped
12:54and then there was still bedlock.
12:55Oh, it was amazing.
12:56Yeah, both me and Jack swapping.
12:58And then it was like, oh, no, we've both done it.
13:00Yeah.
13:00What do we do now?
13:01There have been a lot of theories going.
13:03I can tell from how they pick it up.
13:04Oh, he's got the, you can't, you can't tell.
13:06Absolutely not.
13:08James, you were absolutely convinced throughout the series
13:10that Matthew was a traitor.
13:12I still am.
13:13Even goes.
13:14He's trick production, I'm telling you.
13:16He's such a smooth operator, that guy.
13:17He tried his best.
13:18He's amazing.
13:19He really wanted to be one.
13:20What were the biggest clues for you that Matthew was a traitor?
13:23I've never played poker to an amazing level,
13:25but I used to earn a living doing it for a while.
13:26And the first few seconds, the blindfold comes off.
13:29I was a bit cheesed off.
13:31It wasn't, but I was doing that
13:32when Claudia walked behind me the whole time.
13:33That's all right.
13:33I forgive you.
13:36And everyone else was doing that.
13:38Obviously, I know a lot of them are acting.
13:39And Matthew was just stood like that.
13:41It looked like a deer in the headlights for a few seconds.
13:44And I did ask him, I thought you looked quite stunned.
13:45And he didn't really have an answer to it.
13:47And he's a really smart guy.
13:48I thought this guy can carry it off.
13:50He turns on the style at the round tables.
13:51He hides in the shadows a bit.
13:52I'm the only one shouting his name.
13:54I must be keeping him in.
13:55I've solved it.
13:56No.
13:56I'll let you know.
13:58Matthew, what was it like in your final day in the castle,
14:01knowing that James had his sights set on you
14:03and, of course, he had the ceremonial dagger?
14:04Love you, mate.
14:05Yeah.
14:06You have to have hope,
14:08because anything can happen.
14:10But I did feel like the odds were stacked against me.
14:12I do regret not making it plainly obvious
14:16at that last round table
14:16that I didn't think you were a traitor.
14:19Because I didn't.
14:20I just did not believe you were a traitor.
14:21No, no.
14:21Yeah.
14:22You thought I was, though.
14:23Yeah.
14:24Right.
14:25Yeah.
14:26Hi.
14:26My family are very disappointed in me.
14:31It's feeling a lot more like an American chat show this week.
14:34Oh, yeah, yeah.
14:35You guys.
14:36But I just want to say this on behalf of...
14:39It's impossible if you don't know.
14:41Yeah, yeah.
14:42And it's so easy when you're watching the telly and you do.
14:45Jade, after James' departure following the chest of chance,
14:48you were confirmed as one of the final five.
14:50However, despite battling players' suspicions
14:52since the very first round table,
14:54they finally acted on them in this final episode.
14:57Let's take a look at the moment
14:58where you found out the identity of the traitors
15:00shortly after leaving the game.
15:06I did see it coming.
15:08I said I was being set up for banishment for a while now,
15:10so it did catch me off guard
15:12that it would happen so close to the final.
15:14You do start picturing
15:16who you're going to stand at that bonfire with,
15:18and I think when you start kind of picturing it in your head,
15:20you're manifesting it quite a lot.
15:22So, it was so close,
15:25and, yeah, so far at the same time.
15:28I think there are two traitors left in the castle,
15:31and I think one of them is Faraz.
15:34Throughout the kind of whole of the game,
15:36I had to kind of take advantage of the situation
15:38that I was put in
15:39and see who was really pushing me for banishment.
15:42And Faraz, I feel like that round table
15:44was kind of desperate to get me banished.
15:47Like, everything that had been worked up at this point
15:49was suddenly kind of paying off.
15:52And I feel Rachel played a really instrumental role in that
15:55because, you know, Jack, Steve, and I
15:56are a little trio, in a sense.
15:59So, they've got to be working together, I think.
16:02After everything the traitors have put me through,
16:04I cannot wait to find out who they are.
16:06Rachel, yeah.
16:20It's difficult.
16:21Yeah, that.
16:23I mean, I said it, didn't I?
16:27I'm glad I was right about one thing.
16:29That's really gratifying to be in that situation.
16:31Stephen, OK.
16:40The thing is, right, when someone's that close to you,
16:43you don't look at it for what it is.
16:45And having walked out of that round table
16:47and seeing how he voted for me,
16:49it would have been too late to recognize who that person was.
16:52Damn.
16:53Stephen's playing a phenomenal game.
16:57100%.
16:58Yeah.
16:59I've lost words, really.
17:03And Stephen, yeah, I've been in his back pocket.
17:10Yeah.
17:11Yeah.
17:13Stephen had you in his back pocket.
17:15Yeah.
17:15It's one of the benefits of wearing such massive trousers.
17:17I know.
17:18I'm a big person.
17:20A lot to unpack there from that reveal.
17:23Let's start with Rachel.
17:24You were suspicious of her
17:25and thought she and Faraz were playing as a traitor team.
17:28Had you had suspicions of Rachel earlier in the game
17:30or did the thoughts form a little bit later on?
17:32It was pretty early.
17:33There was a conversation that I'd had with Sam and Rachel in the kitchen
17:36where I, you know, told them about what had happened on the chariot mission.
17:40And that information got round so fast.
17:46Yeah.
17:46And I was like, well, Sam was in a unique situation like I was.
17:52Rachel was the only other person in that room.
17:54And I was like, that's a little red flag.
17:56So it started then.
17:57And then, you know, Amanda and the policing training
18:02just kept being brought up regardless.
18:04And I was like, well, you're pushing a narrative
18:06and she's banished from the cast
18:07and you're still bringing up Amanda's name.
18:10So, yeah.
18:11And the Stephen reveal,
18:13you mentioned that you, Stephen and Jack had been a bit of a trio.
18:16How did it feel seeing Stephen's name on the scroll?
18:20I think after he'd written my name down at the round table,
18:25the pin dropped.
18:26And you don't quite realise how blind you are
18:29because I felt quite vulnerable going through the game
18:32because I'd had so much heat.
18:33And it was really important for me,
18:34especially to have backing,
18:36people that I feel would have my back.
18:38And Stephen was just one of them.
18:40And then, yeah, when he put my name down,
18:41it was, oh, OK, right.
18:45You see the game in the moment, don't you?
18:45You see the game.
18:46You see literally how it's all played out.
18:48But then it's too late by then
18:50because you're going out the door.
18:51Of course.
18:51Now, one of the major theories around you being a traitor
18:54was that Amanda thought you were a traitor
18:56and Amanda was in the police force.
18:58Yeah.
18:59Amanda, how does it feel watching it back
19:02knowing that you were part of the game long after you left?
19:05I didn't realise I was going to be such a part of it
19:10when I was actually not in the castle.
19:12I just want to say, Jade, I apologise.
19:15We've apologised.
19:15I've apologised over beers.
19:17But I just want to apologise and say
19:19you played an absolute blinder all the way through
19:22and you just kept going.
19:24So, well done to you.
19:26Well done to you.
19:26Great.
19:32James and Jade,
19:33it's been an absolute pleasure speaking with you.
19:34Everyone give it up for finalist James.
19:38Thank you, guys.
19:39Thank you, James.
19:42James, shortly I'm going to ask you
19:45to join our front row of traitfuls
19:47as they will now be known forevermore.
19:49Good man.
19:50Now, Rachel and Stephen will be joining us very shortly
19:52for their very first post-win interview.
19:55But first, I'll be having a chat
19:56with our runners-up Jack and Faraz.
19:58Here is the moment where they both found out
20:00the identities of the traitors
20:01just moments after leaving the endgame.
20:04Rachel, grandma's doing me.
20:14Grandma's doing me.
20:17Oh, no.
20:18Oh, no.
20:20Here we go.
20:22Here we go.
20:26Rachel.
20:26And Stephen.
20:31Whoa.
20:33Rachel, Stephen?
20:34I knew it.
20:36After all.
20:38Oh.
20:39At least I got one right.
20:42I got one out of four.
20:44They obviously had a tactic.
20:47They had a strategy.
20:49And they executed it with perfection
20:51because they've won.
20:52Stephen definitely played a smart game.
20:54So I was on to Stephen
20:56when he came back into the Maz as well.
20:59Oh, mate.
21:00I actually am not bad at this game then, to be fair.
21:03I just need to stop changing my mind.
21:05It is nice to know I was the last remaining faithful in the game.
21:10And I can lead this game with my head held high,
21:15knowing that I played with integrity, honesty,
21:19and I was just myself.
21:21Rachel and Stephen have defo's took the coin home and split it.
21:24Yeah, I feel sorry for Jack.
21:26I think he'll be absolutely gutted.
21:28But, yeah, Rachel and Stephen, to be fair to him,
21:30especially Rachel, I feel like she deserves it,
21:32the game she's played.
21:37A huge round of applause, please,
21:38for Strixie's finalist, Faraz and Jack!
21:44Welcome.
21:45Welcome, both of you, so I'm close.
21:47Faraz, let's start with you.
21:49Talk us through that final day in the game.
21:51How were you feeling?
21:52The final day was honestly a blur.
21:54Like, I think I was just buzzing to be there, to be honest.
21:56And then, obviously, breakfast just stuck my face in that,
21:59ridding myself for the day.
22:00But, no, honestly, it was just an unreal feeling, just making it.
22:04There's so many shots of you just absolutely wolfing down food.
22:07I'm a growing lad, aren't I?
22:09I'm a growing lad.
22:10I need my five a day.
22:11That was my mission.
22:13It's not the missions in the day.
22:14It's getting the food in.
22:15You know, five a day relates to fruit and vegetables
22:16and not full meals.
22:17Yeah.
22:18Bad plates.
22:20Jack, what about you?
22:21Same question.
22:21What was your plan for that final day?
22:23It's so hard, isn't it?
22:24Like, when you come into the final day, like, we're all looking forward to the mission.
22:27I was absolutely buzzing for the mission.
22:28But your head is just so mangled at that point.
22:31And I know, as the viewers, you sit there, you think, oh, it's so easy.
22:34It's so obvious.
22:34But my head was a total mess about who to vote for.
22:37You know, it's so hard coming to that last round table.
22:41But, yeah.
22:41What about you, Jade?
22:42Because, obviously, you're going into that final day.
22:44Are you worried that you're going to go before the end game?
22:46Could you see the right?
22:47I was set up for banishment.
22:48My days were so limited.
22:50I made my peace with it very early on.
22:52And I was like, I will not go gently into that night.
22:56But, yeah.
22:57I mean, I'm amazed I got as far as I did, to be honest.
23:00But I knew it was just an hour of time.
23:02Faraz, now, you've also been dubbed as a bit of a detective this series.
23:05Faraz of the Christie's been flying around.
23:07Oh, yes.
23:08Long laugh, didn't it?
23:09Well, you went for Rachel.
23:11I think we were all...
23:12It was limbs in my house.
23:13We were so excited.
23:14He's going to get Rachel.
23:16And then you sort of had a little bit of a nap and changed your mind.
23:20Yeah.
23:21What was it that made your suspicions wane?
23:24I think it was just the way she reacted.
23:26Yeah.
23:26To me, as soon as the round table, like, she was so calm.
23:29And I resonated with the fact that if you were to stand up there as a faithful,
23:33you want to just rub it in the face, sort of as a last hurrah.
23:36And that's exactly how I would have felt.
23:37So I think it was just that.
23:38And I was like, yeah, that's, like, obviously as a faithful, knowing who I am,
23:43I thought that that's it.
23:44That it probably, she's not a traitor in that sort of respect.
23:48I guess you're, it's so difficult, isn't it?
23:51Yeah.
23:51You decide one thing and then probably so easily convince in the other direction
23:55because you simply don't know.
23:56That's what it is.
23:56Like, when you're in the castle, when you're playing the game,
23:59things change, like, in a matter of moments.
24:00And you can't really anticipate where things are going to go.
24:03And to be fair to her, she was, like, really convincing and stuff.
24:06And she was smart.
24:07She was calculating, she knew what she was doing.
24:09Yeah.
24:10So, yeah, it was...
24:10And she was organised.
24:11I mean, if you've now seen the Rachel and Stephen plotting pre-endgame,
24:16they were organised, they knew what they were doing.
24:18Do you think there's anything that you two could have done
24:21to stop them pre-endgame?
24:22I think we probably could have had a few more chats, couldn't we?
24:26Oh, yeah.
24:26And just sort of had that plan in place.
24:28Like, I said that plan to you.
24:29I didn't even follow it myself, so...
24:31Oh, it's...
24:33We've been over it a hundred times, haven't we?
24:35It's endlessly frustrating.
24:36You go over and over.
24:37But I think the reality is, like,
24:39particularly in that very last round table or the endgame,
24:43I was sort of set on Rachel, Fraz was set on Stephen,
24:45and we were both going for traitors, but just two different traitors.
24:48Yeah.
24:48And I think we just weren't voting together.
24:50I think that was the thing, wasn't it?
24:51I think it's hard to accept the fact that we were both right and both wrong.
24:54I know.
24:54Yes, true.
24:55Well, you were very won over by Faraz, Jack.
24:57You seemed to be siding with him.
24:59Why did you choose him over Rachel?
25:01I just...
25:02I think Faraz and I had a little, like, bro bond on day one.
25:05Like, yeah.
25:06On day one, like, we sat next to each other on the train,
25:09we just clicked straight away, and I just...
25:11He was one of those people...
25:11I had a little book, and I wrote who I thought was, like, faithful,
25:14who I thought was traitor, and I put a percentage on it,
25:15and Faraz was pretty much always 100% faithful for me
25:18the whole way through.
25:19At the very end, there was that small slither of doubt,
25:22but, like, as there is for all the players,
25:24you know what I mean?
25:24Yeah, yeah.
25:24But it was just...
25:26It was so hard at the end,
25:28and I think, as well, ironically,
25:30Stephen was someone I had as almost the whole way through
25:32100% faithful.
25:33It was only at the very end that I started to look at him,
25:35which is crazy,
25:36considering all the evidence that was put against him
25:37throughout the game,
25:38but it just goes to show, doesn't it?
25:40It's such a hard game.
25:41Well, look, you are all fantastic players.
25:43We loved watching you.
25:44A massive round of applause for Faraz, Jack, and Jay!
25:50Well, the time has come to finally hear
25:54from our winners, Rachel and Stephen.
25:56Here's the moment the traitors seize their historic win.
25:59I'll be honest.
26:01I had moments where I was doubting what I was going to do tonight,
26:06but I couldn't go back on my word to you.
26:11It just wasn't worth the money,
26:12and I couldn't have walked out of here by lying to you.
26:16Two traitors, but totally faithful to each other.
26:21You did it.
26:22You absolutely did it.
26:24Congratulations.
26:25I'm so proud of you, honestly.
26:26I'm very proud of you.
26:27I'm so proud of you.
26:28I'm so proud of you.
26:29Oh, I love you.
26:30Oh, thank you.
26:35Incredible.
26:37I'll be honest.
26:39I'm so proud of you.
26:39Woo!
26:43Welcome.
26:43Welcome to Uncloat, both of you.
26:45Congratulations.
26:46Thank you very much.
26:46Our two Traitor Champions.
26:48You are both incredible throughout the game.
26:50I want a quick reflection from both of you.
26:51How does it feel watching that back?
26:53Rachel, you first of all.
26:54A lot more emotional than I remember.
26:57I don't think I was, like, letting my nerves shine through
27:00because I knew what I was going to do,
27:02but I was so nervous with Stephen,
27:04so watching it back, it kind of...
27:05It got me a little bit...
27:07Made me cry.
27:08Nervous that he was going to change his mind?
27:11Nervous that I wasn't going to change his mind.
27:13Yeah.
27:14I don't know what goes on on that little head of his.
27:16You don't want to.
27:18What about you, Stephen?
27:19How does it feel watching it back?
27:21Unlike Rachel, I didn't know what I was going to do.
27:23And watching it back, I mean...
27:27I think I can see in my face...
27:30I've got quite an expressive face, as I think...
27:33Oh, really?
27:34You might have picked up on already.
27:37You know, you're just a meme generator now.
27:39Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:40Every emotion possible.
27:42See, I never knew I had an expressive face,
27:44so this is news to me.
27:46And what face did you make when you found out?
27:48LAUGHTER
27:49But, yeah, I think just watching it back,
27:55you know, I'm just so proud of the decision
27:59that I made, proud of myself,
28:01and just proud of the game that Rachel played as well.
28:03I think it couldn't really go any better, so...
28:06Well, let's talk about the pact,
28:07the pact that you made by the family tree
28:09that you wouldn't write each other's names down on the slate.
28:12I will hold my hands up and apologise
28:14that every single episode of Uncloaked,
28:15when the pact comes up, I say,
28:17the pact's worth nothing.
28:18We know. We know.
28:20We were watching, and I couldn't wait for this moment.
28:22LAUGHTER
28:23To be fair to me,
28:26history told me that the pact would not stick.
28:28No-one has ever stuck to a pact like that.
28:30Even the people making the pact
28:31know that they're not going to stick to it.
28:33So both of you, in that moment, when you made it,
28:35you thought, we're absolutely sticking to it.
28:37I knew from the minute it came out of my mouth,
28:40I wouldn't break it.
28:40I knew that, and I just thought,
28:42you have to think really fast in this game,
28:44and you have to kind of navigate and go with the flow.
28:47And I just thought at that moment,
28:49no, this is a new game for me,
28:50and I'm not breaking that.
28:51Yeah, that's not what I was thinking.
28:53LAUGHTER
28:54It's so hard to trust someone in there
29:00whose job it is to lie, you know?
29:04And so, yeah, I was really struggling
29:07to see how Rachel could hold on to that pact
29:09for the whole game,
29:11which is why, towards the end,
29:13like, I was wobbling big time.
29:17I'm just so glad that she's a woman of her word.
29:20Well, you both had a lot of stuff to deal with
29:22throughout the whole game.
29:23Obviously, the secret traitor,
29:25the dastardly Fiona.
29:26When Fiona revealed herself,
29:29did you initially trust her, Stephen?
29:32Did you think you could trust her?
29:34I did, yeah.
29:35I think myself and Fiona got on really well.
29:39And if there was anyone that I wanted it to be,
29:43I wanted it to be Fiona,
29:45but I didn't think it would be.
29:46I was so chuffed when she walked into that turret.
29:51Yeah.
29:51We all were.
29:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:54I don't think we all were.
29:55No.
29:56LAUGHTER
29:56We weren't, no.
30:02Well, Rachel, obviously,
30:03you came to blows with Fiona a little bit.
30:06Yeah.
30:07When she accused herself in the kitchen,
30:10talk us through that moment.
30:11What was going through your mind?
30:13I just thought, this is great crack.
30:15I was like, this,
30:16because I was nervous for the first part of the game.
30:19And then, and I love games.
30:21I am so competitive.
30:22I love them.
30:23And Fiona reminded me that this is a game.
30:26These are all adults going to play a game.
30:28It was, like, the laughs we had.
30:31But, yeah, it took me about three seconds
30:32when she dropped her cloak,
30:34and I just thought, no.
30:35No.
30:36She dropped the hood,
30:36and I was like, no,
30:37she's going to throw me under the bus.
30:38I just didn't think she was going to move.
30:41Like, be seeing Bolt and just straight away go for me.
30:44But she's phenomenal.
30:45I mean, bringing the cloak back
30:46and saying, haven't I been wonderful,
30:48was probably...
30:49She loved it.
30:52And that line, I'm drunk on par.
30:53I was like, I know you are.
30:54I can see you.
30:56But she made it so much fun.
30:58And, like, that reaction in the kitchen
30:59when she says, I think you're a traitor.
31:01And I burst out laughing.
31:02And I thought, this is brilliant.
31:03Yeah, it was amazing.
31:04This is hilarious.
31:05How did that feel for you, Claudia?
31:06Because, obviously, you weren't in the kitchen
31:07when that happened.
31:08I was watching.
31:09I was watching.
31:09And my mouth was, I mean,
31:11I had to hold it up
31:12with both my hands and my feet.
31:14I was like, what is going on?
31:15What's happening?
31:17What?
31:17No, Fiona, stop.
31:19Stop.
31:19Stop.
31:20Stop.
31:20Can I just go down?
31:21No, you can't.
31:22Can I just...
31:22Could I just get a message to...
31:24Could I write something in an apple?
31:26It was unbelievable.
31:27But, yeah, you acted very fast.
31:29You were like, no, no, I'm not doing this.
31:31Come on, everybody.
31:31I need to tell everyone.
31:32Fiona, were you disappointed
31:35that Stephen sided with Rachel
31:36at your final round table?
31:38No, not at all.
31:40I knew my time was up,
31:42to be honest with you.
31:44And I just loved every minute.
31:45And I've said all the way along,
31:47it was Team Traitor.
31:49I wanted you to be there.
31:52And I just had the best fun ever.
31:56It was wonderful.
31:58And to play with all these wonderful people,
32:00all my contestants here,
32:03was, oh, I can't begin to tell you
32:05how excited I was every single day.
32:08Rachel, you barely got a chance
32:10to relax after that.
32:12You barely got a chance to relax
32:14because then you had a showdown with Harriet.
32:16Was that something you were expecting
32:18in the talk to the traitors?
32:20No.
32:20You talk about being blindsided.
32:23And me and Harriet had a lovely relationship
32:25in the castle.
32:26And I remember sitting in the library
32:27and we were just chatting about the questions.
32:29And I thought, per, Harriet's knackered
32:31and she can't come up with the questions
32:33and blah, blah, blah.
32:33And I just thought, right,
32:34it's Maddie that we need to worry about.
32:37He's going to blindside us.
32:38And then when the boots come in,
32:40the round table at Trader's Pit,
32:42Claudia's boots are like clunk, clunk, clunk.
32:45Sorry.
32:45There was nothing on Harriet walking in.
32:49Because it's obviously, you know,
32:50it's very quiet.
32:51The boots come in.
32:52And then she started speaking
32:53and I thought,
32:54I just want to go home.
32:55She scared the life out of me,
32:58but it was brilliant.
32:59It was absolutely brilliant.
33:00Harriet, how does it feel
33:01to see Rachel get so far
33:02and then win the game
33:03despite your best efforts?
33:05Oh, I mean,
33:05I've been beaten by the master
33:08and she is superb.
33:10She is, I think,
33:11that when you see how
33:13an alliance formed between traitors
33:15just wipes the floor with everyone,
33:18I mean, I'm so pleased
33:19that you stuck to it,
33:20both of you, to the end.
33:21And, I mean,
33:22Rachel, watching you
33:23through the whole series,
33:25you've just been fantastic.
33:27So calm, collected, strategic,
33:31completely outplayed all of us.
33:33You know, brilliant.
33:34Badass.
33:35Yeah.
33:40But, of course,
33:42both of you flew perilously close to the sun
33:45on numerous occasions.
33:47I mean, there was one moment
33:48everyone was talking about
33:49when you were next to the family tree,
33:51trying to work out
33:52how to mark the people
33:53on the family tree
33:54and, of course,
33:55Rhys was stood there.
33:58You were worried about that,
34:00weren't you, Stephen,
34:00that Rhys had seen you
34:01both next to the family tree
34:02and was sent away
34:04so you could have a conversation.
34:05Yeah.
34:06When Rachel asked Rhys to leave,
34:09I think you saw my world
34:10disintegrate in front of my eyes.
34:11No, hang on.
34:12He offered to leave.
34:13He offered to leave.
34:15OK, sorry.
34:16I'm rewriting history.
34:17But I was terrified.
34:21I mean, I don't know how he didn't bring it up
34:24the next day.
34:25Sorry, Rhys.
34:26Well, I mean, luckily,
34:27we've given him a microphone.
34:28So, Rhys, how did you not bring that up
34:30at the real table?
34:31I'm sweating.
34:31I'm sweating for one right now.
34:32The battering I have had, by the way,
34:34from family, friends,
34:35even cast of mental.
34:39It's hard, because, obviously,
34:40like, the next day,
34:41we had the early banishment.
34:43Obviously, it was Ross.
34:43My name was already being
34:45thrown through the dirt.
34:46And I was never...
34:47Stephen Fairplayton was
34:48hard on pushing on Maswa's
34:50at the family tree last night.
34:51And I was never going to be like,
34:52so was I, by the way.
34:54I was also there.
34:55So I was just in my chair,
34:57sitting down.
34:58No one mentioned me.
34:59And then I was like,
34:59I'll mention it after the table
35:00if I get through.
35:01No, you won't.
35:01You'll go in a cage.
35:02And then Fiona won't bother
35:03trying to get you out of the cage.
35:04So you'll stay in the cage.
35:05And then it just...
35:06One thing led to another,
35:07and it just never came up for me.
35:08But was I a bit naive?
35:10I'll let you answer that.
35:12But you didn't want to
35:12implicate yourself, essentially.
35:14You didn't want to put yourself
35:15next to the family tree
35:16as well as Rachel and Stephen.
35:17I was just trying to learn Latin.
35:18I don't know what's the deal.
35:19They're telling...
35:20I walked out of the kitchen.
35:21They didn't come with me.
35:22Let's go, guys.
35:23People go into the castle
35:24for different reasons,
35:25and I think Latin is an admirable one.
35:26Educational purposes.
35:27Educational purposes, I reckon.
35:29Stephen, you also had to get through
35:31the Library 5 theory.
35:32I did, yes.
35:33Which was absolutely...
35:34It's a spot-on theory from Jesse.
35:36The Library 5 theory.
35:37Yeah.
35:37But it didn't really gain traction.
35:40How do you think you got away with that?
35:42A hope and a prayer, I think,
35:43to be honest.
35:45It is...
35:46That, I think,
35:48was the first time I realised
35:50that I wasn't really cut out
35:52to play this game strategically.
35:53I just...
35:54Like, I made that move,
35:56and it wasn't until Jesse brought it up to me
35:58the next day and said,
35:59I think Ross has been framed,
36:01I was shocked that I had got myself
36:04into that mess.
36:06And I knew then I had to play
36:08more of a social game
36:09than a strategic game
36:10because I clearly wasn't very good
36:11at, like, seeing where the lines
36:13would lead back to me.
36:14I'm amazed that...
36:18I'm amazed I'm sat here
36:19in the first place,
36:20to be honest.
36:20I think Jesse is such
36:23a switched-on person,
36:25and every single thing
36:26she said about me
36:27obviously was 100% accurate.
36:30And just a phenomenal player,
36:32and I think, really,
36:33she'd be so proud of herself
36:34with how she came across
36:35because just an amazing person,
36:36so well done.
36:37Yes.
36:41There were, um...
36:43Amongst you as Tracers,
36:44there were a couple of
36:45verbal slip-ups as well.
36:46I mean, we saw in...
36:48Oh, my God.
36:48In that final episode, Rachel,
36:50you saying,
36:51if I was a faithful.
36:53Big, big whoopsie.
36:54I can't even remember saying that.
36:56Oh, so you didn't even register it
36:58when you said it?
36:59Did you not hear the cameras
37:00all zoom in on you?
37:01No.
37:02I watched it,
37:03and then I thought,
37:04oh, God,
37:05I can't remember those words
37:06coming out of my mouth.
37:07And then, luckily,
37:08nobody else really remembers it.
37:09Yeah, I was going to see.
37:10Neither could I.
37:11I was too focused on Jack's upset.
37:13I was too busy crying.
37:14I didn't even notice what you said.
37:16I was too busy eating blueberries.
37:18Yeah.
37:20So you guys didn't notice
37:21any slip-ups from these two?
37:23There were no alarm bells going.
37:25Stephen, do you remember
37:25that time at the table?
37:26I saw a TikTok of you saying,
37:29when we discussed this last night
37:30instead of this morning,
37:31as in last night in the turret,
37:33and none of us clocked it,
37:34you said it.
37:34Yeah, I did see
37:35when I thought about this last night.
37:38And again, like Rachel,
37:39I have no recollection
37:40of saying that.
37:42And when I watched
37:43that episode back,
37:44I was screaming at the TV,
37:45like, what are you doing?
37:46You know?
37:48But I think you can also tell
37:49that I didn't quite realise
37:50the gravity of the mistake
37:52I'd made,
37:52because I think if I had known
37:54that I'd slipped up so badly,
37:55I would have then continued
37:57to, like, you know,
37:58degrade from there on.
38:00So I think I just didn't realise
38:02I made the mistake.
38:03That's for the best, isn't it?
38:04Yeah.
38:04Because you're then digging a hole
38:05and the next thing you're saying,
38:06you am into a tracer.
38:08Yeah, I am what I am.
38:09Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
38:10I think whilst you're there as well,
38:12you sometimes give people
38:13benefit of the doubt
38:14because everything's happening
38:15so fast and stuff.
38:16Like, daft little slip-ups like that.
38:18Well, it doesn't seem daft now.
38:20There's slip-ups like that.
38:20Like, you sort of let people
38:22get away with
38:22because people can stumble
38:23over the words and stuff like that.
38:25So sometimes you do
38:26let it fly under the radar.
38:27That's exactly right.
38:28And also, not to harp back,
38:29Alan Carr couldn't say the words
38:31I am a faithful
38:32that bursting out laughing.
38:33And everyone else around
38:34went, oh, yeah.
38:36So, again,
38:38when you're in there,
38:39when you're in the castle,
38:40somebody says something,
38:41it doesn't lodge.
38:42No.
38:43Please don't compare these people
38:44to the celebrity faithful.
38:45Those guys were awful.
38:49You guys,
38:50did you notice
38:51Rachel and Stephen
38:52being close in the castle?
38:53Did you see them, like,
38:54chatting to each other or...?
38:55This was the thing
38:56that really frustrated me
38:58because I had a little notebook
38:59and I wrote down
39:00everyone's names
39:01and I drew lines
39:02from who I saw
39:03would talk to each other
39:04and the only two people,
39:05and I didn't realise this
39:06until way too late,
39:08the only two lines
39:08I didn't draw a name between
39:09was Stephen and Rachel.
39:11Literally never saw them
39:12and I was literally
39:13staring at that paper
39:14like, who is not connected?
39:16But it was literally
39:16in front of me.
39:17So frustrating.
39:19I think they'd done well
39:19to sort of hide
39:21in plain sight, really,
39:22because I was the same,
39:23didn't really notice
39:23them speaking much at all.
39:24Not bad for her grandma.
39:26Yeah, not so bad
39:27for her granny, like...
39:28I want to get a tattoo
39:31of grandma's dummy.
39:32That is so funny.
39:33Brilliant.
39:34Rachel,
39:35now the question
39:35on everyone's lips.
39:37Let's talk FBI training.
39:40Tell us more
39:41about this FBI training.
39:42What did it entail?
39:43Is it available
39:44to the rest of us?
39:45So I was very careful
39:47with my words.
39:48I said I did it.
39:49I was trained
39:49by a former FBI agent.
39:52That's correct,
39:53but a really loose
39:54interpretation of it.
39:57So the four-month
39:58online course
39:59was more like
40:00a one-day course
40:01and an e-book.
40:04But still
40:05by a former FBI agent.
40:07So it was
40:07tactical skills
40:09in negotiating
40:09with difficult people
40:10and there was
40:1121 very difficult
40:11people in that castle.
40:13And the art
40:15of micro-expressions
40:16and stuff,
40:16which, you know,
40:17I just thought
40:18if I have something
40:19there that I tried,
40:20if I was a faithful,
40:21I had skills
40:22or I prepared.
40:23But that just,
40:24it's taken on
40:25a life of its own.
40:26And it probably
40:26put the fear of God
40:27into people as well
40:28when you're announcing
40:28that you've got FBI training.
40:29Did that scare you
40:32when you heard that?
40:33Yeah, you're saying
40:33to Fraz that I had
40:34a clench my jaw
40:36and obviously
40:36you're going to believe it.
40:37Yeah, I was like,
40:38yeah, I've seen that,
40:39I've seen that,
40:39I don't think I ever did.
40:41No, because I,
40:42I says,
40:43I said,
40:43gee, it had a clench
40:44in your jaw on this side
40:45and he says,
40:45yeah, I've seen it
40:46and he's sitting this side.
40:48I don't think
40:49you ought to say that one.
40:52But like,
40:52it's the art of distraction.
40:54It's anything but me.
40:55Don't speak about me
40:56and just speak about
40:57somebody else out there.
40:58So it works.
40:58But that's what I love
40:59so much about you two
41:00is you did it for each other
41:01throughout
41:02when you watch it back
41:04from the moment
41:05that you decided.
41:06And that was,
41:07I'm not saying
41:08a casual alliance,
41:09but you were in a hall
41:09where people were looking
41:11and you did it.
41:11It's not like,
41:12let's sit down
41:13and work this out.
41:13You just decided.
41:15I love the fact
41:15that anybody came
41:16for one of you,
41:17the other person
41:18picked something up
41:19and just went,
41:19look over there.
41:20Yeah.
41:20And people didn't see that
41:22very often,
41:23you know.
41:24Yeah,
41:24but we did have each other's back.
41:25It's amazing.
41:26Up until the end.
41:27We did,
41:27well,
41:28we did have each other's back
41:29and I think that was
41:30the hardest thing
41:31to have each other's backs
41:32silently,
41:32you know,
41:33like,
41:33and obviously
41:35you saw my face drop
41:36when Rachel told me
41:37in the turret
41:37that,
41:38you know,
41:38if I hear
41:39that she's been saying
41:41my name,
41:41not to panic
41:42and what,
41:43I mean,
41:43the first thing I do
41:43is panic,
41:44right?
41:45But I think
41:46it's just
41:47up until that point
41:48we had been really good
41:49and I think for her
41:50when she said that to me
41:52it was absolutely
41:52the right thing to do,
41:53right?
41:54We can't,
41:54as traitors,
41:55be defending each other
41:56too overtly
41:57but,
41:59yeah,
41:59I think up until that point
42:00I just always thought
42:01you had,
42:02you were kind of
42:02actively defending me
42:03which obviously
42:04would have been
42:04really stupid
42:05because,
42:06look at me.
42:08And,
42:08and yeah,
42:09so I think that's
42:09when I started to panic
42:10kind of towards
42:11the latter part of the game
42:12and maybe start to
42:12throw your name out
42:13a bit too much
42:14I think at the end.
42:15Well,
42:15Rachel,
42:15the big panic for you
42:16in the game
42:17was the chest of chance.
42:18You came so close
42:19to being banished.
42:20Can you talk us
42:21through that round table?
42:22Do you know what?
42:23Myself and James
42:24have spoken about this
42:25and it was oddly
42:26amazing.
42:27It was one of those ones
42:29because I'm a big believer
42:30in what's for you.
42:31You know,
42:32it's meant to be
42:32and I thought,
42:33right,
42:34chance is deciding this
42:35so if it's not
42:36in the chest
42:37so be it.
42:38Stand up,
42:39hold your head high
42:40and walk out.
42:41You know,
42:41it's up to fate.
42:43And then when we opened
42:44it and I seen it
42:44and I thought,
42:45oh my God,
42:46I've just scraped by
42:47by the skin of my teeth.
42:48But it was,
42:49like,
42:49it was a brilliant moment.
42:50It was a lot of fun.
42:51For you maybe.
42:52It was an incredible moment
42:52until the cliffhanger
42:53at which point
42:54every living room
42:54in the country
42:55was smashed to pieces.
42:58Now,
42:58obviously,
42:58you said to Stephen,
42:59I'm going to have to talk
43:00about you
43:01being a traitor.
43:02But how did it feel
43:03hearing Stephen
43:04talk about you
43:05being a traitor
43:06at the round table
43:07and throwing accusations?
43:09Like,
43:09we knew it was coming
43:10and we knew
43:10you weren't,
43:11you know,
43:12you can't hide
43:13in that game
43:14and you have to
43:14throw names out.
43:15So we knew it was coming
43:16but it still takes you
43:18by surprise.
43:19Do you know,
43:20when his face
43:22just told me
43:23he was gunning for me
43:24and I thought,
43:25this is a different face
43:26to the turret face.
43:27But yeah,
43:28it had to be done.
43:29It was slightly unnerving
43:30but we kind of...
43:31Did you feel
43:32the same way Stephen
43:32when the accusations
43:33were being thrown at you
43:34from Rachel
43:34at the round table?
43:35Yeah,
43:36surprisingly,
43:37like,
43:37I think Rachel
43:39had more trust in me
43:40than I had in her
43:41and yet,
43:42at the round table,
43:44I think I gave her
43:45a harder time
43:45than she gave me.
43:48But,
43:49yeah,
43:50any time I heard
43:51anyone saying my name,
43:53I mean,
43:53I was perspiring profusely
43:55and,
43:56you know,
43:57I would look the same
43:57colour as your shoes,
43:58you know?
43:59So,
44:00yeah,
44:01I was terrified
44:01when I heard my name
44:02but I think
44:03knowing that,
44:05knowing that Rachel
44:05could have been
44:06going behind my back
44:07and I know
44:07how influential Rachel
44:08was in that castle
44:09and I think we all
44:10kind of were in awe
44:12really of how Rachel
44:13moved around
44:13the circles
44:14and everyone
44:15and just has such
44:16a kind of gravity
44:17in her,
44:18in her way
44:19of conducting herself
44:20and so I just knew
44:21that I stood no chance
44:22if I just didn't say
44:23anything about Rachel,
44:25you know,
44:25because she could say
44:27one line
44:27and it would just
44:28take me down
44:28so,
44:29yeah,
44:29I was terrified.
44:30We think on Uncloats
44:31that a lot of your perspiring
44:32was down to the fact
44:33you wore really big jumpers.
44:35Let's talk about
44:37your fashion sense
44:37in general
44:38because it's been
44:38an absolute delight
44:40this series.
44:40Thank you very much.
44:41Thinking,
44:42God,
44:42I hope Stephen
44:42doesn't get banished
44:43because I want to see
44:43my friend
44:44for breakfast tomorrow,
44:45you know?
44:45so I,
44:47before going into the castle,
44:50I know I've got
44:52a very red face,
44:53right?
44:53So this is something
44:54that, you know,
44:55my partner did say to me,
44:57what the hell
44:58are you going to do
44:58about your face in there?
45:00And, well,
45:02so I thought
45:02if I distract them
45:03from the neck down,
45:05maybe they won't notice
45:07the neck up.
45:09So I just,
45:10I thought if I wear clothes
45:11that are a bit flamboyant
45:13and loud,
45:13then maybe they'll just
45:14be going,
45:15oh, Stephen,
45:15you look really great today.
45:17Rather than looking up here
45:18and going,
45:19you're a traitor,
45:20you know?
45:21So it was all
45:22kind of tactics.
45:23And I do also just love
45:24kind of that kind of
45:25fashion as well.
45:26But I do think
45:27it kind of helped
45:28distract a little bit.
45:29Well, you look fantastic.
45:30I mean,
45:30I obviously get the episodes
45:31a little bit early
45:32so we can do Uncloats
45:33and I watch the first episode
45:34and everyone's going,
45:35what do you think of it?
45:36Everyone who works
45:37on Uncloats.
45:37And I said,
45:37where did Stephen
45:38get his jacket from?
45:39Yeah, you and the rest
45:40of the country
45:40are asking me
45:41the same question.
45:42Tailor-made, apparently.
45:44Above your station already.
45:48Finally,
45:48what does the money
45:49mean to you both?
45:50Rachel, let's start with you.
45:51Like it just means
45:52an opportunity
45:53for my family.
45:54Do you know,
45:55a nice time,
45:57nice memories
45:58and lots of fun.
46:00And that's what
46:01it's all about.
46:02What about you, Stephen?
46:03I think, like I said,
46:04you kind of start
46:07to realise
46:07how much
46:08your kind of family
46:09gave up for you
46:10when you were younger
46:10and I think
46:11just being able
46:11to hopefully
46:12try and give
46:12something back
46:13would just be
46:15great for me.
46:16I just really hope
46:17I can do for them
46:18what they've done
46:19for me previously.
46:20Well, look,
46:21you've all been
46:21absolutely incredible.
46:22Thank you so much
46:23to all five of you
46:24for coming on
46:24Uncloaked
46:25and entertaining us
46:26so effortlessly
46:27throughout the whole
46:27course of the game.
46:28A massive round of applause
46:30for our finalists,
46:31Jack Faraz and Jade.
46:33And our first
46:33point-taker winners,
46:34Stephen and Rachel.
46:36And keep the round of applause
46:37going for the one and only
46:38Claudia Winkleman.
46:39The chat continues
46:43in your BBC Sounds
46:44bonus episode
46:45with more from
46:46Jack Faraz,
46:47Jade,
46:48Stephen,
46:48Rachel and Claude.
46:50We're going to get
46:50loads more reaction
46:51from our finalists
46:52to all the gameplay
46:53this series.
46:54And for the first time
46:55ever,
46:55we're putting questions
46:56to the players
46:56from you,
46:57the listener.
46:58To hear that,
46:59just scan the on-screen
46:59QR code
47:00or search for us
47:01in your BBC Sounds
47:02app.
47:02It really is that simple.
47:04Now,
47:04if you've seen
47:05all the fun
47:05our players have had
47:06and all the cash
47:07our winners have won
47:08and you fancy
47:08your chances,
47:09then why not apply
47:10to be on Series 5?
47:12Just head to
47:12bbc.co.uk
47:13forward slash
47:13take part
47:14where you'll find
47:15all the info you need.
47:17And if you can't
47:17get enough traitors,
47:18then the first two episodes
47:19of The Traitors' Island
47:20are now available
47:21on BBC iPlayer.
47:23And that's that.
47:24This series had it all.
47:25Fake jobs,
47:26hidden relationships,
47:27a confessional booth,
47:29a ceremonial dagger,
47:30a secret traitor,
47:31one enormous outburst
47:32around the Kitchen Island
47:33and a cat amongst
47:34the pigeons, Roxy!
47:36What more could you ask for?
47:38Thank you for watching
47:39this series of Uncloaked.
47:40I'm Ed Gamble.
47:41Stay faithful.
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