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Regionale Führungspersönlichkeiten: Frieden zwischen Armenien und Aserbaidschan verändert Eurasien
Erstmals seit der Unterzeichnung des historischen Friedensabkommens trafen sich Armeniens und Aserbaidschans Präsidenten. In der Region feierten Akteure die Aussicht auf eine von Frieden geprägte Zukunft.
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Erstmals seit der Unterzeichnung des historischen Friedensabkommens trafen sich Armeniens und Aserbaidschans Präsidenten. In der Region feierten Akteure die Aussicht auf eine von Frieden geprägte Zukunft.
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00:30After decades of tragedies, changing the course in the future for the two countries, but also for the whole region, just as we now witness the fast-changing global order.
00:42Given how much effort it has taken to close the painful chapter, I would like to ask President Talib and President Hachituran, how do you look in the future now?
00:52What does the future hold now? Both of you being here together at this session is already a great message in itself.
01:00Yes, you're absolutely right. It was a historical achievement last August when two countries initialed peace agreement, thus putting end to three decades plus of war and bloodshed.
01:15The uniqueness of this peace deal is that it was signed less than in two years after the last bloody clash.
01:27So it demonstrates that if you have a strong political will from both sides and commitment to peace, then you can reconcile in a relatively short period of time.
01:40What has been signed today is transforming into the practical results.
01:48Not only we live in peace for five, six months only, and we enjoy this situation.
01:55Neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan, as independent countries, ever lived in peace.
02:01When we became independent in 1991, we were already at military standoff.
02:10But today the benefits of peace are reflected into the beginning of cooperation.
02:17First cargo from Azerbaijan of critical products, oil products are being transported to Armenia, and in itself it brings the prices down.
02:30So it was absolutely unimaginable maybe two or three years before, but today it is a reality.
02:37And I think nothing can interfere into this process.
02:44What we need to do more, I think both sides, is to demonstrate the results of living in peace,
02:53so that we can also witness the full support of our societies to this process.
03:02I am very optimistic, because really what has been achieved is a tremendous benefit to Armenia, to Azerbaijan, to Southern Caucasus,
03:12and it sets an example of how the countries, which were in very deep, hostile terms, now transform into phase of cooperation.
03:25We restored justice, international law, our sovereignty, territorial integrity, and then we achieved peace.
03:33And then we stopped.
03:35And for the leader of the country, which suffered for 30 years, to stop at the right time is a very responsible and very important decision.
03:46We could have continued.
03:48I want to be very open with you and with the audience.
03:51But that would lead to endless wars, that would lead to more sufferings, more victims.
03:57Then war would never end.
03:59And someone should have stopped it.
04:01And we decided to stop it.
04:04And, yes, it was a joint decision by Armenian and Azerbaijani leadership to close that chapter and to see the opportunities for peace.
04:16Mr. President, the same question to you, please.
04:19How do you see it?
04:20How do you look in the future now with this whole new era opening?
04:25What does the future hold for Armenia?
04:27Two years ago, one year ago, it was unbelievable that we could achieve such a situation.
04:33Whereas now, we and the Republic of Armenia is able to receive cargo from Azerbaijan via the territory of Georgia.
04:41I'm sure we'll be able one day to receive this cargo directly through our own territories.
04:49Baku, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Nakhijeran, Armenia.
04:55Directly we can have transportation, I'm sure.
04:58And we'll be able to overcome the problems that were created in the 90s.
05:01But what is very important is that we are both looking forward.
05:06If we try to look backwards, if we try to look for reasons what happened and why it happened, that will deprive us of the opportunity that we have received.
05:18The willingness and readiness from the government of Azerbaijan, Mr. Aliyev, we appreciate it.
05:24We can see it.
05:25It was today or yesterday that Mr. Aliyev mentioned that we need to learn to live in peace.
05:33I can reassure you, it's not a usual situation for us.
05:38Before signing the documents, we would wake up and try to find out what's happening on the border.
05:46Shootings, death, wounded, stress for us.
05:50Now, let's be reassured, we are forgetting this.
05:55Now we are more living in time, so we need to implement projects.
06:00And we will succeed.
06:01We'll succeed because our agreements are very concrete.
06:05The principles are very concrete.
06:08We do respect each other's territorial integrity, sovereignty, and the jurisdiction.
06:14We'll be guided by those principles.
06:17We'll open borders.
06:18And I'm sure that after some years, not only at the highest political level, we'll have such meetings, but also it will become business as usual when our citizens from Armenia and Azerbaijan will cross the border, will do business with each other, will make use of the benefits of each other.
06:35And therefore, as a result of this cooperation, will become a very conducive region as the South Caucasus for the entire world.
06:45The discussions that we are now having about connectivity between Europe and Asia, the best way to this is South Caucasus.
06:53This process will succeed because there is an economic interest as well, not only political.
07:00Political is very important, but also economic.
07:03And this will enhance and strengthen the agreements that we have achieved on.
07:08And I do want to thank the leadership of Azerbaijan, Mr. Aliyev.
07:13I do have the right also to say thank you to our prime minister as well.
07:17President Vucic, I would like to ask you, how do you see the role of Serbia as somehow this important bridge for Eurasia, bridge between Europe and Asia,
07:28when it comes to redefining and defining this economic identity for the region?
07:35I believe that the role of our countries will become even, we all know that we belong to small countries, relatively small nations, speaking about size and numbers, not about our pride and dignity.
07:54But I believe that we'll have bigger importance in the future, and I'll tell you why.
08:01From Armenia, let's say, 3 million, 7 million, Serbia, 10 million, Azerbaijan.
08:08We'll have to get along with each other, we'll have to cooperate, we'll have to do things together.
08:15Because in today's world, where we are facing no rules, no regulations, we are big fish, eat smaller fishes, and they're saying it,
08:27they're not even wrapping it, they're not even wrapping it in anything, they just do it, and they're saying it, doing it bluntly,
08:36and not observing and not in accordance with UN Trotter and UN resolutions.
08:45We'll have to take care of ourselves.
08:47And now you have two different schools.
08:50One is either to belong to those big, newly defined empires in different hemispheres, either to still protect your sovereignty and independence.
09:06And knowing Azerbaijanis people, Armenian people, and Serbian people, I know that we'll pick the option number two,
09:16which means that we'll protect our countries, our nations, our sovereignty and our independence.
09:21Wanting, of course, to cooperate with everybody, but at the end, we'll have to keep our national interests and our statecraft as well.
09:36Ebreus Demir, the President's touched upon a little bit the investment side and the business side of it,
09:41and it would be great to hear, please, from your take, what's your view regarding the policies and probably the strategies needed to strengthen Eurasian's competitiveness,
09:53as well as ultimately also the integration in the global picture and the global trade.
09:58The investments can only start when there's peace and long-term stability.
10:03I mean, if there's no stability, nobody wants to invest.
10:06So hearing the leaders here, and I'm very happy to be among these very strong leaders,
10:11that the peace and prosperity are going to be long-term, it means investors can come.
10:17And I've seen the trip agreement.
10:18It's very well defined.
10:20And it's the first start of, I think, the major investments can start from that agreement.
10:28Because currently there is CARS-Tip VC project already, the Baku project.
10:33And I think with the middle corridor, then we can add more to this.
10:38So what I'm saying is the infrastructure is not only the roads, it's not only the railroads, it's the digital infrastructure, it's the energy infrastructure as well.
10:47And also it brings out many more infrastructures.
10:50I mean, the dry ports, the logistical hubs, and the people.
10:54I mean, people start to come and live around it.
10:57If I may intervene regarding some good words said by Madam Özdemir, if I pronounce that well.
11:05Perfect.
11:05We are speaking about peace, stability, tranquility.
11:13There has never been less peace, stability, and tranquility in the world.
11:17Last year was the worst year after the Second World War, with number of wars that were launched by different countries or within the countries.
11:27And this year is going to be worse than last year.
11:30And next year is going to be worse than this year.
11:34And everybody is speaking about peace, accusing someone else for not observing something, not paying respect to someone.
11:45But at the end, everybody is taking care of its own national interests.
11:50Nobody cares about multilateralism.
11:53And this is the biggest mistake that all of us made in the past.
11:58And now, no one can correct it.
12:01There are people that might say, even in our countries, in Yerevan, Baku, Belgrade,
12:06they might say, okay, it's somewhere away from us, but there is a spillover effect, and we are all going to face the consequences.
12:15And that's why I was speaking about creating better bonds between us, in order to make these shocks relatively smaller to our economies and to our politics as well.
12:26And I'm not optimistic at all the world of, we have just entered the world of volatility and uncertainty,
12:35and not sure that we'll be able to overcome it in the years to come.
12:39President Hachateran, what's your take on this when it comes to this new approach?
12:43I'm one of the politicians who has always spoken about peace.
12:48In my political activities, I've always tried to be useful for peace, because I understand one thing clearly.
12:57If you have neighbors, only live in peace with your neighbors, including in your daily life.
13:05There's no other way.
13:07Other way means arguing, fighting, disputes, loss of time.
13:11I am therefore optimistic that we will indeed succeed.
13:15We will indeed also have joint economic and cultural projects.
13:20We will indeed have, and we already have the precedence when the members of the civil society of our two countries meet.
13:29Business circles next will meet.
13:32In Yerevan, people can already buy Azerbaijani fuel for their cars.
13:37Years ago, if you would speak about this, there would have been hostile reaction to this.
13:44But this is the new reality we live in.
13:46And therefore, as for the problems of the world, there is a lot of volatility in the world.
13:52After COVID, a lot of things have changed, and the political map of the world is changing a lot.
13:59And the management methods are changing a lot.
14:02And therefore, especially in this situation, the small countries face challenges.
14:10But I do not want to underestimate them.
14:14Being small may also be an advantage.
14:17It allows us to act and take decisions independently ourselves and implement them independently ourselves.
14:26You may be surprised and ask, what about the big countries?
14:32Big countries have big problems.
14:34We have our countries, our interests, our action to be taken for our interests.
14:39The global geopolitical sort of picture in the landscape looks completely different.
14:43There is not strengthening, there is rather cracking and shaking.
14:46And I would like to get that as a closing remarks for all of you speakers, please.
14:51How do you see, with this challenging and shaking and rather fragile global landscape,
14:58how do you see then the place of Eurasia in that picture, President Toulib?
15:02After peace de facto is established, we started also economic cooperation, export operations.
15:12Azerbaijan lifted all the restrictions on transportation of cargos to Armenia, from Kazakhstan, from Russia.
15:20And now we got a request from Armenian side to provide transit from Armenia to Russia.
15:28So we de facto unilaterally opened the corridors.
15:36Yes, the transportation goes through Georgia, but one day it will go through Armenia.
15:43One day Armenia will go directly through Azerbaijan.
15:47And that day is not too far away.
15:50We established a very close alliance relationship with Turkey, which is a brotherly country.
15:58And we have a huge investments in Turkey.
16:01Our investments in Turkey are more than 20 billion US dollars.
16:06We are one of the biggest investors in Georgia.
16:11With a trip and a connectivity project, which United States now is supervising,
16:17we will establish a new transportation corridor stretching from Asia, across the Caspian, through Azerbaijan,
16:26Armenia, part of Azerbaijan, which is Nakhchivan, Turkey, and further down to Europe,
16:33in addition to the existing corridors through Georgia.
16:37So the more routes, the better for consumers, for suppliers, for transit countries.
16:43So we as a country, we always concentrate on our regional agenda.
16:48And if we cannot achieve what we want in the region, we cannot have any aspirations for any kind of a global event.
16:59But today, especially after parallel tracks of Armenia-Azerbaijan and Turkish-Armenian rapprochement,
17:08which go in parallel and definitely will end in parallel by establishment of diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia,
17:17Azerbaijan and Armenia at the same time,
17:19We are changing the broad geographical area, part of Eurasia,
17:26which is very important for connectivity, for energy security, for peace, for stability.
17:32President, with your closing thoughts.
17:36The spillover effect will harm us a lot.
17:40I'll tell you why.
17:41More than Azerbaijan, of course, because we have a lot of German companies, French companies, Italian companies
17:46that are producing spare parts, if they will face bigger tariffs from the United States of America,
17:52which is the main market for those companies,
17:55it will mean that we'll have to shut down our factories, our plants in Serbia.
18:01And at the same time, there is a political issue.
18:03I see that we are coming to an end of a session.
18:06Everybody used to have its own Pandora's box.
18:09Now everybody is speaking about new Pandora's box.
18:12The real Pandora's box was open on Kosovo issue.
18:16When many countries in the world, Western world in particular,
18:22recognized and acknowledged an independence of Kosovo,
18:27saying, well, this was because of humanitarian disaster
18:30that was caused by alleged Serbian authorities action in Kosovo.
18:36And at the end, you can see the same arguments are used
18:39by all the others that are doing against the other countries.
18:43But everybody is forgetting when it started.
18:45And now why I'm afraid and why I'm saying that I'm not that optimistic
18:50is the fact that we are having more regional and local wars than ever.
18:55You have no certainty even in the Gulf region.
19:01Is it not used to be the case till the last few months?
19:06And also need to say that this divorce between the U.S. and Europe is not going to be just a temporary issue.
19:18It's going to last for quite a more time.
19:24And at the end, we'll all have to pay the price.
19:28Whether we'll be able to take care of ourselves,
19:30I hope that we'll be able to do it better than some others.
19:33But are we going to be hit?
19:36No doubt that we're going to be hit.
19:38But with the support and with the help,
19:40with the assistance of such good friends like Armenia and Azerbaijan,
19:45and hopefully Turkey as well,
19:49we'll be able to overcome all these difficulties.
19:51Thank you very much for participating.
19:53Thank you for being here.
19:54And thank you for watching this slide.