Minister spraw zagranicznych Belgii: „Prezydent Trump próbuje zastąpić ONZ”

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Minister spraw zagranicznych Belgii: „Prezydent Trump próbuje zastąpić ONZ”  Prezydent USA Donald Trump próbuje zastąpić ONZ swoją rzekomo tymczasową „Board of Peace”. Tak powiedział Maxime Prévot w rozmowie z Euronews.  CZYTAJ WIĘCEJ : http://pl.euronews.com/2026/01/20/minister-spraw-zagranicznych-belgii-prezydent-trump-probuje-zastapic-onz  Zasubskrybuj nasz kanał.Euronews jest dostępny na Dailymotion w 12 językach

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00:00Zmiana

00:04Dźwięk

00:07W dziecko

00:08Zmiana

00:09W WPF

00:10w Dawałce

00:11Belszy

00:12W Fem

00:13Maxime

00:14Przewod

00:15On z tym

00:16został

00:17lata

00:18Zmiana

00:19major

00:20geopolity

00:20uncertainty

00:21i

00:22shifting

00:23power

00:23dynamics

00:24Minister

00:25Bien

00:26WELCOME

00:27WF

00:28Dziękuję

00:29The World Economic Forum is taking place this year

00:32as the United States ramping up Russian rhetoric

00:35regarding possibly Washington taking control over Greenland

00:38and all the threats to Denmark.

00:40Donald Trump is in town here in Dallas,

00:42expected also to meet the European leaders.

00:45What's Belgium's strategy when it comes to protecting Greenland

00:47and supporting Denmark?

00:49We absolutely need to be united on this issue.

00:53Frankly speaking, the attitude of the US is incomprehensible

00:57and unnecessarily hostile if they have concerns

01:03because maybe they have identified some threats

01:07in the region of the Arctic.

01:10Okay, we are able to understand that

01:13and maybe we will discuss together

01:17in order to address those fears, those threats.

01:20And it already exists today, a partnership, an agreement

01:26between the US and Denmark

01:28in order to allow the US to deploy armed forces on Greenland,

01:34if necessary.

01:35They only have one military basis today.

01:38It is possible to have more in the future

01:41according to the current agreement.

01:43So it's not necessary to take on an aggressive manner,

01:47an hostile one, any square kilometers of Greenland.

01:52It is really a red line for the European countries.

01:56But how do you explain in this case

01:57why the United States and the US administration

02:00is not listening to this argument coming from Europe,

02:03from the European allies, NATO allies?

02:05There is no rational explanation, frankly speaking.

02:08It is possible to address together

02:11those potential threats in the Arctic region.

02:15So let's do it.

02:16But having some blackmail, some threats against allies

02:24within the NATO family, this is totally unacceptable.

02:28So we will take the opportunity of the Davos meeting

02:33in order to share this message.

02:37The King of the Belgians and my Prime Minister

02:40will have a meeting with President Trump.

02:43And I hope that it will be possible

02:45in the coming days and weeks

02:47to go back to a more reasonable way of thinking and acting.

02:53I think it's crucial.

02:55It's not only a crisis.

02:56It is really a turning point.

02:58And when you face a turning point,

03:01it demands action and certainly not hesitation.

03:05And the threats, the additional ones

03:08related to some European countries

03:12because they've decided to send some soldiers to Greenland,

03:16it's also something totally unacceptable.

03:19And it is crazy to listen to the US

03:25explaining that the fact that some European countries

03:29have sent soldiers to Greenland

03:32is a kind of anti-American act.

03:36It is the opposite.

03:37It is the manner to demonstrate

03:40that we intend to take into account

03:43on a better manner than in the past

03:46the different fears expressed by the US

03:50and that the NATO allies

03:53and especially the European countries

03:55have really the intention

03:57to take into account those fears

04:00and to secure in a better way

04:03the Arctic region in the future.

04:05Donald Trump started making the statements

04:07regarding Greenland on his first term since 2019

04:10and the European Union really engaged

04:12in the diplomatic dialogue ever since.

04:14It's why we absolutely need

04:16to take into account this moment

04:21and we cannot, in Europe,

04:24we can no longer depend blindly

04:28on the security provided by the US.

04:32We have a date with ourselves

04:35and we absolutely need to develop our autonomic strategy

04:40on military aspect,

04:42on energetic aspect,

04:44on technological ones also.

04:47Otherwise, we will have a week in Europe

04:51and Europe is more than a political united institution.

04:59It is also a big force

05:01with 450 millions of people

05:06with wealthy countries.

05:09We are not only one

05:11of the largest economic markets in the world.

05:14We also have the possibility

05:16to be a geopolitical power,

05:18but it means that we absolutely need

05:21to act on a united manner.

05:24and it is maybe the biggest challenge

05:26we are currently facing within the EU.

05:29The political unity in the EU.

05:30Of course, of course.

05:32And we need to react

05:33and also to prepare

05:34some potential countermeasures

05:37in order to send a clear message

05:40to the United States.

05:42It is not acceptable

05:43the way they are treated their allies.

05:46So we will, of course,

05:50use diplomacy, diplomacy in action

05:53in order to desescalate

05:56the current tensions we have.

05:59And I hope it will be possible

06:01to find a reasonable solution

06:03in the coming weeks.

06:04Otherwise, we will be forced

06:06to use also the coercition instrument,

06:10for instance.

06:11Is Europe ready to go for that?

06:12Is Europe ready to go this far?

06:14I think that the current situation

06:16needs to act as a call to action for Europe.

06:20So if we want to avoid to be wicked,

06:25we absolutely need to demonstrate

06:27our capability to response

06:30on a proportionate,

06:31significative, and firm manner.

06:34Otherwise, we will lose our credibility

06:37and our respectability.

06:40And it is so crucial for Europe

06:42in order to act as a geopolitical power

06:45and an economical market,

06:47a reliable one,

06:49that we absolutely need

06:51to answer it firmly to the U.S.

06:54That's crystal clear.

06:55How is Belgium willing

06:57to treat the current situation?

06:59In the past,

07:00Belgium was among the countries

07:01with some of the lowest

07:02defense spendings, for example.

07:04Is this situation pushing the country

07:07to make rapid changes into that?

07:10Of course, of course.

07:11When you are on the crossroads,

07:15you have two choices.

07:18One, you follow the path

07:20to maybe a problem

07:23and not good issue and outcomes,

07:28or you lead another way,

07:30the way of the reforms.

07:32And it is really the way

07:33that Belgium has decided to follow.

07:35So we have increased our spendings

07:39for military equipment.

07:41It was time.

07:42Frankly speaking,

07:43we were one of the,

07:45let's say,

07:47the bad pupils in the classroom.

07:49So now we have achieved last year

07:51the 2% GDP,

07:53and we will continue

07:54to increase our spendings

07:56for the defense sector.

07:58And we absolutely need

08:00to be at the rendezvous

08:02of our own responsibility.

08:04You know,

08:06defending, for instance,

08:07the international law,

08:09it's crucial

08:09for medium-sized countries

08:12like Belgium.

08:14Not out of naïveté,

08:16but because that's

08:17the only way

08:19we can defend ourselves,

08:22our population,

08:23our prosperity

08:24against any kind

08:26of hostile temptation

08:28coming from abroad.

08:30So it's why it's so crucial

08:31for the European countries

08:33to defend the international law

08:34and the rules-based order.

08:37And according to this,

08:40we consider that

08:41the United Nations

08:42remains the best,

08:45let's say,

08:46reliable framework

08:49and the best

08:50reliable context

08:52for promoting

08:53multilateralism discussions

08:55for peace and prosperity,

08:57and certainly not

08:58an initiative

08:59such as

09:00the Board of Peace,

09:01for instance.

09:02Board of Peace

09:03is another topic

09:04that is going to be discussed

09:05here at Davos

09:06with Donald Trump

09:06meeting the European leaders.

09:08What's the Belgian position

09:09on that?

09:10We have not been invited

09:12to be part of this board.

09:14And frankly speaking,

09:16when we have a look

09:17on the status,

09:19it is totally unacceptable.

09:20We have the opinion

09:23that through this initiative,

09:26President Trump

09:27is trying to replace

09:29the United Nations system

09:31and to create

09:33his own personal board.

09:36Because when you have

09:37a look on the status,

09:38it's not only

09:39the presidency

09:40of the United States,

09:41it's the presidency

09:42of Donald Trump himself

09:43with veto rights

09:45on any kind of decision.

09:48And it is not acceptable.

09:49we absolutely need

09:51to reform

09:52the United Nations

09:53and maybe

09:54to create

09:56new opportunities

09:56for permanent

09:58member states

09:59coming from Africa

10:00or Latin America

10:01or Asia,

10:03but certainly not

10:04to create such a move on.

10:05But you do agree

10:05that it has to be

10:05reformed, the UN?

10:07Of course, of course.

10:08That's why there is

10:09a void which has to be

10:10somehow filled in.

10:11But there is

10:12a current process

10:13of reforming

10:14the UN

10:15called UN-80

10:17trying to

10:18to merge

10:20some agencies

10:22to create

10:23new opportunities

10:24in order to be

10:24more efficient.

10:26But creating

10:27something new

10:28in order to

10:29bypass

10:30the United Nations

10:31is certainly not

10:32the way

10:33Belgium intend to follow

10:34and neither to support.

10:36Finally,

10:37and very,

10:37very briefly,

10:38another strategy

10:39coming from the

10:40United States

10:40is abrupt

10:41and last-minute

10:42announcements

10:43regarding the tariffs

10:44against certain countries.

10:45because there was

10:45eight NATO members,

10:46there was France

10:47on Tuesday morning,

10:49it's your neighbour.

10:50How do you behave

10:50and what do you do

10:51if tomorrow

10:51that's Belgium?

10:53For more tariffs?

10:54We already act

10:55together

10:56with my different

10:58foreign minister,

11:00the different colleagues

11:01of the European countries,

11:03trying to identify

11:05how to react

11:07on an adequate,

11:09appropriate,

11:10and firm manner.

11:11I had a meeting

11:12yesterday

11:13with some of my

11:14colleagues

11:14discussing about that

11:16under the lead

11:17of Kayakalas,

11:19our representative

11:20of the Commission

11:21for the Foreign

11:22and Security Policy

11:23of the European Union.

11:25And of course,

11:26it is not acceptable.

11:27We absolutely

11:28need to avoid

11:29any escalation

11:30on this tariff war,

11:34otherwise it will be

11:35bad for both parties,

11:36also for the US.

11:38We also have

11:39instruments

11:40in order to react

11:41but I think

11:43that we prefer

11:44a reasonable solution

11:45that's a kind

11:47of escalation

11:48in threats

11:49from both sides

11:51of the oceans.

11:53Minister,

11:53thank you very much

11:54for your time.

11:54Thank you so much.

11:55Thank you.

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