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Tatiana Shmayluk (Jinjer): “Non amo i vecchi stereotipi del metal”
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La cantante si racconta all’AdnKronos in vista del ritorno in Italia della band ucraina con un concerto a Trezzo sull'Adda il 10 febbraio prossimo. “Oggi abbiamo conquistato il pubblico italiano”
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You toured the world extensively,
00:03
but what do you remember most about the experiences in Italy
00:06
with the Italian audience?
00:08
I saw you playing, I don't remember if it was like three or two years ago,
00:14
opening the Sleepnotta show in Italy.
00:16
I was there, I was like, oh my God, what am I seeing?
00:19
Because you were amazing.
00:22
So I always wonder, do you have any stories to share about Italian people?
00:28
Yes, I do. I do.
00:30
It's one of my favorite stories and probably the biggest accomplishment as a musician.
00:39
As we won, we won Italian listeners.
00:47
We had to win them, you know.
00:50
I remember, I still have some pictures of us playing Italian shows
00:57
and there were hardly any people in the room.
01:03
Our first shows were, they suck.
01:06
They sucked in Italy.
01:09
You know, no one wanted to come to our shows.
01:11
I remember we played one show during Easter or something.
01:16
So people really, they preferred to go to church or celebration
01:20
instead of our show.
01:22
and those who were at our show, they were completely dead.
01:27
Like, dead silence.
01:31
Well, I'm still grateful they came
01:34
and probably they still come to our shows,
01:38
but now they actually know who we are.
01:40
Little by little, Italian shows became one of the greatest.
01:47
One of the greatest.
01:48
The audience is like day and night
01:51
that comparing to what we were dealing with
01:55
when we were younger, in the beginning,
01:58
when they were like two, I don't know, 15 people in the crowd.
02:03
The crowd, if you can call a crowd of 15 people.
02:07
now they are crazy.
02:10
I love, I love it.
02:11
And I feel, yes, we did it.
02:14
And I love Italian people, Italian audience even more for that.
02:20
That we grab them and then we hold them
02:23
and they don't want to live.
02:25
Yes, because in Italy, metal is not a mainstream genre,
02:29
but has a very loyal following.
02:33
So people are really loyal to the bands
02:37
and also to the artists.
02:40
Yeah.
02:40
And that's the thing,
02:42
that they were really a difficult fish to catch, you know.
02:48
We were thinking, oh no,
02:51
that means that we never,
02:53
you know, when there are people,
02:55
there are 15 people in front of you
02:56
and they are completely,
02:58
they don't understand what's going on.
03:00
You feel like, oh, I just want to disappear.
03:03
Yeah.
03:04
You feel cringe, you feel shame.
03:08
But now you have a full audience.
03:11
Yeah, now we have a full audience.
03:13
Now we have thousands of people coming to our show.
03:15
So that's great.
03:17
Thank you.
03:18
I must thank them.
03:21
And if you could destroy one stereotype
03:25
that still plagues metal,
03:27
since in Italy it's not,
03:29
as I said, a mainstream genre.
03:33
Is there a stereotype about metal
03:35
that you would destroy?
03:39
Oh, yes, I would.
03:41
And I don't think a lot of people will like it.
03:46
But, you know,
03:49
I had an interview once
03:53
and they played me songs,
03:57
played songs for me,
03:58
and I had to guess.
03:59
So all of the songs were from 80s and 70s,
04:03
metal bands that I've never heard of.
04:06
and the interview,
04:08
I guess it failed
04:09
because I couldn't answer any,
04:12
like there were like 10 tracks
04:14
that I had to guess.
04:15
And I think I never guessed any.
04:19
But if they played some songs,
04:22
some music from the late 90s,
04:25
I mean, some new metal,
04:27
you know,
04:27
I think it's still metal.
04:29
Come on.
04:29
I don't like gatekeeping.
04:31
I think we all diversify the genre.
04:40
And so for me,
04:41
I would like to destroy the stereotype
04:44
that if you play metal,
04:46
you are like this,
04:48
you're like heavy metal.
04:51
I'm not like this.
04:52
I have a different vibe of,
04:57
it's like not ethereal,
04:59
but it's something futuristic.
05:00
which future is metal too,
05:02
man,
05:03
like look at it.
05:05
It's unpredictable,
05:08
you know,
05:09
it's harsh,
05:10
harsh reality
05:11
that you cannot even see
05:14
because it's future,
05:15
you know,
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blah, blah, blah.
05:15
So it's like really brings you chills.
05:19
And I think it's pretty metal.
05:22
And yeah,
05:23
my idea of metal is like cosmos.
05:27
I like the secrets of life
05:31
and everything,
05:32
but not the traditional metal values,
05:36
like leather.
05:38
For example,
05:39
the outfit,
05:40
like I don't like leather.
05:41
or what is it called?
05:44
Like a hand.
05:48
Yeah.
05:48
Yeah.
05:49
Like bracelets
05:49
and stuff like that.
05:51
Although I like eco leather.
05:56
Yeah.
05:56
but the style,
06:02
the design
06:03
is not metal,
06:04
you know,
06:04
I don't like
06:05
like the harness.
06:07
Yeah.
06:08
Yeah.
06:08
I don't like that.
06:09
Yeah.
06:09
I don't like the vests
06:11
with patches.
06:14
So I am metal,
06:16
but I'm not wearing
06:17
the older metal,
06:22
how you call it?
06:25
Serotyped also,
06:26
also serotyped like clothes.
06:29
Clothes.
06:29
Yeah.
06:29
Yeah.
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