Zdaniem Boltona działania wojskowe USA mogą mieć „decydujący wpływ” na Iran

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Zdaniem Boltona działania wojskowe USA mogą mieć „decydujący wpływ” na Iran  W czasie gdy region ten przygotowuje się na interwencję militarną, John Bolton, były doradca prezydenta Trumpa ds. bezpieczeństwa narodowego, twierdzi, że Stany Zjednoczone zdecydują się na „ukierunkowane uderzenia” na Iran. Trump wspominał, że amerykańska pomoc jest „w drodze”.  CZYTAJ WIĘCEJ : http://pl.euronews.com/2026/01/16/zdaniem-boltona-dzialania-wojskowe-usa-moga-miec-decydujacy-wplyw-na-iran  Zasubskrybuj nasz kanał.Euronews jest dostępny na Dailymotion w 12 językach

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00:00Dla mnie jest

00:08President Donald Trump

00:10former national security advisor

00:12John Bolton

00:13he served during Trump's first term

00:16but has since become

00:17one of the president's fiercest critics

00:20Mr. Bolton

00:21welcome

00:21thank you so much for joining us

00:22thank you for having me

00:24so I'd like to start with the situation in Iran

00:26we're hearing that

00:28the region is getting prepared

00:30for a potential U.S. attack

00:33you've advised Mr. Trump in the past

00:35do you think he's now leaning

00:37towards military intervention

00:39is he preparing for war

00:41well I think it's certainly the case

00:43he's looking at potential strikes

00:45against targets in Iran

00:47because of the protest

00:49I believe for a long time

00:51that regime change in Iran

00:53is an absolute prerequisite

00:55for any hope of lasting peace

00:57and security in the Middle East

00:58and really to eliminate the threat

01:00of international terrorism

01:02and nuclear weapons

01:03that the regime in Tehran represents

01:06I think the regime is weak

01:07I think it's at its most vulnerable moment

01:09perhaps even going back to 1979

01:12when it took power

01:14and so here military action by the U.S.

01:17could have a decisive effect

01:19on the dynamic inside Iran

01:21but you mentioned targeted military strikes

01:24but if the end game here

01:26is to finally topple the Ayatollah's regime

01:29is that enough?

01:30Well I think the targets to look at

01:33obviously taking out whatever air defenses

01:35remained for Iran

01:37or new ones the Russians may have supplied

01:40but then I would look at

01:41striking the headquarters of the Revolutionary Guard

01:45military bases of the Guard

01:47the Basiji militia

01:48that has been instrumental

01:50in repressing the population

01:51the Iranian Navy

01:54the nuclear program

01:55the ballistic missile program

01:57and I think that would further debilitate the regime

02:00and it would show to the opposition

02:01we're not trying to harm Iran itself

02:03it's the regime that's the target

02:05it would give the opposition clear indication

02:08that the U.S. and the rest of the outside world are watching

02:11So you think Mr. Bolton

02:12that we could be looking at the start of the end of the regime

02:16is that the end game for the U.S.

02:18Well I hope so

02:19I mean we've been close to this point before

02:21there's been enormous discontent in Iran

02:25for a variety of reasons

02:26ethnic clashes

02:29the young people are unhappy

02:31women are unhappy

02:32since the murder of Masyamini over two years ago

02:36the economic situation is obviously extremely bad

02:39but the outside world has basically sat back and done nothing

02:43now and permitted the regime

02:45to suppress the opposition

02:47I think if we show that we are very much interested in what happens

02:53and favor the fall of the government

02:57that that could have a very positive effect inside the country

03:00And you mentioned the outside world

03:01do you think Europe also needs to step in here?

03:05What can it do?

03:06Well Europe hasn't done much of anything unfortunately

03:08I think they should be working with the United States

03:11we should all be working more with the opposition

03:13to provide resources

03:14communications for example

03:16to help them coordinate better inside Iran

03:19I think the situation is different now

03:21for a couple of reasons

03:22number one

03:23the protest after the murder of Masyamini

03:26for neglecting to wear the hijab

03:30that the Ayatollahs prescribed

03:31was not just an issue about the dress code

03:35that the regime's basis of legitimacy

03:37is that it speaks the will of God

03:39and when people say

03:41well we don't think wearing the hijab comes from God

03:44it comes from the Ayatollahs

03:46you're just not attacking that issue

03:48you're attacking the very legitimacy

03:50of the Ayatollahs themselves

03:52and that influence is still there

03:54plus this time

03:55the economic circumstances in Iran

03:57are really bad

03:59worse than ever

04:00and that's why the protests are so widespread

04:03countrywide at this point

04:05we hear Trump talking about

04:06coming to the aid of the Iranian people

04:09we heard similar language

04:11when it came to Venezuela

04:12yet Mr. Trump seems to be

04:14completely comfortable at the moment

04:16with having Nicolás Maduro

04:18sit in a New York prison

04:20while his vice president

04:22Delcy Rodríguez

04:23is at the helm in Caracas

04:25she is a key figurehead

04:27of the Maduro regime

04:29so when you look at Venezuela

04:31do you think Trump is really interested

04:33in changing autocracies into democracies

04:36or is it really at the end

04:38all about oil

04:40and the strength of the dollar

04:41and so on?

04:42Well it's not really clear

04:43what Trump is interested in

04:44I think we're on the verge of

04:46squandering an opportunity

04:47in Venezuela

04:48I'm glad Maduro has been captured

04:51but the regime in power in Caracas

04:53is the Maduro regime

04:55without Maduro

04:56and if we're not careful

04:57that regime will entrench itself

04:59and the people will still not be able

05:02to take control of the government

05:03and it will also mean

05:04that there's not going to be

05:05any substantial external investment

05:08in Venezuela

05:08in the oil industry

05:10so the poverty there will continue

05:11Trump himself tweeted

05:13to the Iranian opposition

05:14take control of your institutions

05:17well that's what he should be saying

05:19in Venezuela as well

05:20that is how you help overthrow

05:22the repressive regime

05:24he is due to meet

05:25the opposition leader

05:27Maria Corina Machado

05:28very soon

05:29do you think that could change anything

05:31or is Trump really

05:33not interested in

05:34a proper democratic transition

05:35in Venezuela?

05:36Well I think

05:37this is a good opportunity

05:38for Machado to say

05:39look if you don't have

05:41representative government

05:42in Venezuela

05:43you're never going to have

05:44a rule of law society

05:46you're going to be subject

05:47to the arbitrary will

05:48of the Maduro regime

05:50and those circumstances

05:51mean foreign investors

05:52are not going to come in

05:53they're not going to risk

05:55especially in the oil sector

05:57billions of dollars

05:58of investment

05:58that some dictator

06:00can just grab away from them

06:01so for Trump's own purposes

06:03putting the opposition

06:05in Venezuela in power

06:06is important

06:07and perhaps she can

06:08persuade or explain to him

06:10why that's important

06:11If he fails to do that

06:13is that a strategic failure

06:15for the US

06:15do you feel?

06:16I think it could well be

06:17I think what the regime

06:19in Caracas is doing now

06:20is shoring up its support

06:21from the military

06:23the police

06:24the colectivos

06:25the motorcycle gangs

06:26that they use to

06:27intimidate the population

06:29and strengthening their position

06:31talking to China

06:32about China

06:33exploiting Venezuela's oil

06:35so the moment's not lost yet

06:37but it's just a clear mistake

06:39to stop with Maduro

06:40And on Greenland

06:42Trump has recently said

06:44that anything less

06:45than US control

06:47of that territory

06:48which belongs

06:49to the Kingdom of Denmark

06:50is unacceptable to him

06:52Do you think he's willing

06:54to use force

06:56military force

06:57to seize that territory?

06:59Ultimately

06:59I don't think he will

07:01I think

07:02just the talk though

07:03of using military force

07:04is costing the US

07:06in terms you can't even calculate

07:08in terms of trust

07:09and good faith

07:10and our reputation

07:12and if we can say there

07:14there's a new poll out today

07:15that shows exactly

07:168% of the American people

07:18favour the use of force

07:20to take Greenland

07:20I'd like to ask that 8%

07:22if they even know

07:23where Greenland is

07:24Yet he seems to be

07:25doubling down

07:26Mr Bolton

07:26he seems to be

07:27turning his back

07:27on diplomacy

07:28his language is very clear

07:30what could this mean

07:31for the US reputation

07:32if he does move ahead

07:34with a seizure

07:35and what could it mean

07:36for the NATO alliance?

07:37Well I think it's a disaster

07:39for the United States

07:40as I say

07:40that we're even talking

07:41about this

07:42and it would be

07:42it would be infinitely worse

07:44if he did try

07:45and use military force

07:46I think there'd be

07:47a political earthquake

07:48in this country

07:49that there is

07:50essentially

07:51zero support

07:53and certainly in Congress

07:55it would be

07:55a matter of grave concern

07:57and I think many people

07:58believe

07:58that if it happened

08:00it would be the end

08:00of the NATO alliance

08:01and a grave

08:03a grave

08:04doing grave damage

08:05to US national security

08:06not to mention

08:07the other NATO allies

08:08In the end

08:09will we just see

08:10something more transactional

08:12do you think he'll opt

08:12for a deal

08:13for example

08:13by paying a lump sum

08:15to Greenlanders

08:16or striking some kind

08:17of agreement

08:18with the Danish government

08:19is he pushing here

08:20for a sale?

08:21Well he will want

08:22to be able to declare

08:23victory on something

08:24because after all

08:26the world is divided

08:27into winners and losers

08:28and he always wins

08:29but it's not

08:32it doesn't make it

08:33any easier

08:34to get to an agreement

08:35which legitimately

08:36does concern

08:37US national security

08:38Canadian security

08:40Danish security

08:41the security

08:41of the entire

08:42NATO alliance

08:43against the growing

08:44Russian and Chinese

08:45threats in the Arctic Ocean

08:47so a quiet approach

08:49to this

08:49I think

08:50could really move

08:51fairly rapidly

08:52based on the 1951

08:54Danish-US

08:55defensive Greenland treaty

08:57I'd like to ask you

08:58about Ukraine

08:59Trump has been pushing

09:01for a very rapid deal

09:03to end Russia's war

09:05it doesn't seem

09:06to be coming

09:06Europeans have pledged

09:08to very specific

09:09security guarantees

09:11by now

09:12do you think

09:13Trump is willing

09:13to do the same?

09:15Well Trump may be willing

09:16to give security guarantees

09:17but since it's still

09:19not clear

09:19he would even uphold

09:20Article 5

09:21of the NATO treaty

09:22words on a piece of paper

09:25are not the real answer here

09:26the only way

09:28you can have

09:28a guarantee

09:30of Ukrainian security

09:31is if Russian troops

09:32are moving backward

09:33rather than moving forward

09:35so I'm worried

09:37about the whole

09:38ceasefire approach

09:39I'm afraid

09:39it may give Russia

09:40an advantage

09:41and that

09:42in Europe

09:43people think

09:44if we can get a ceasefire

09:45that's a real answer

09:46it's not

09:47it just gives Russia

09:48a pause

09:49to regroup

09:50rebuild its army

09:51refurbish its economy

09:52Putin wants

09:53a Russian empire

09:54he's told us this

09:55for 20 years

09:56and in that kind

09:57of nationalist thinking

09:58there's no Russian empire

10:00without the whole of Ukraine

10:01that's what Putin wants

10:02Do you think

10:03there's a risk here

10:04that Trump

10:04is losing patience

10:05and will sell out

10:06the Ukrainians?

10:07Well I think

10:08he's losing patience

10:08because it's not

10:09getting him

10:10the Nobel Peace Prize

10:11that's really

10:11the end objective

10:13for him

10:13on almost everything

10:14we've been talking about

10:15I don't know

10:17that it would necessarily

10:17mean he would sell out

10:19Ukraine

10:19he might just

10:20withdraw from the issue

10:21because it's not

10:22making him a winner

10:23and if

10:24if the US

10:27continued to supply

10:28intelligence to Ukraine

10:29if we continued

10:30to sell weapons

10:32and ammunition

10:32to our European

10:33NATO allies

10:34who could pass it

10:35on to Ukraine

10:36that I think

10:37might be sufficient

10:38to keep Ukraine going

10:40that's not

10:41an ideal outcome

10:42from my point of view

10:43but I think

10:44if we could get

10:45that minimum

10:45then let Trump

10:46walk away

10:47Final question

10:48Mr. Bolton

10:48you know

10:49Trump promised

10:50to pursue

10:51an America

10:52first policy

10:54a less

10:55interventionist

10:56approach

10:56some would say

10:57he's doing

10:57the complete

10:58opposite

10:59how would you

11:00rate his

11:01foreign policy

11:03so far

11:03in his

11:04second term

11:05from one

11:05second term

11:06excuse me

11:07from one to ten

11:08how would you

11:09grade it?

11:10Well around

11:10a two or three

11:11I think

11:11a lot's incomplete

11:12one thing

11:13we haven't talked

11:14about is his

11:14tariff policy

11:15trade issues

11:17which I do think

11:18are important

11:19for national security

11:20they've been

11:20a complete disaster

11:21and harmed

11:23the United States

11:24in many ways

11:25not just economic

11:26but in reputational

11:27and political terms

11:28as well

11:29so I don't think

11:30Trump really

11:30understands

11:31what he's doing

11:32he doesn't have

11:33a national security

11:34grand strategy

11:35everything is

11:37transactional

11:37episodic

11:38ad hoc

11:39and that's why

11:40he can completely

11:41reverse what he said

11:42during the campaign

11:43and not even see

11:45that he's contradicting

11:46himself

11:46I think he's

11:47causing himself

11:47political difficulties

11:49with his own base

11:50for what he's doing

11:51but that's his problem

11:53Mr. Bolton

11:53thank you so much

11:54for your time

11:54well thanks for having me

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