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00:00:00When a glass breaks
00:00:02I didn't have to get into character
00:00:04That's who I was as a competitor
00:00:06When I got into the business
00:00:08I never considered money
00:00:10Getting famous
00:00:11I just wanted to be a wrestler
00:00:12Not only did you become a pro wrestler
00:00:14You became one of the greatest of all time
00:00:15People say that
00:00:16I wish I could have made it last a little bit longer
00:00:18How did drinking beer become part of your celebration?
00:00:20I don't even know how it came to be
00:00:22That's 30 years ago
00:00:23And it's hard to believe it's been that long
00:00:25You look like you could still go
00:00:26I could
00:00:27Would you?
00:00:28Probably not
00:00:29Before WrestleMania 38
00:00:30Your last match was WrestleMania 19 with The Rock
00:00:32Did you know that was going to be your last match?
00:00:34Yeah, and it was until it wasn't
00:00:36Who would you say is your biggest rival?
00:00:37Vince
00:00:38Even if you weren't a wrestling fan
00:00:40You put on to see this
00:00:42Terrorizing his boss
00:00:43When you broke your neck
00:00:44Did you think there was any coming back from that?
00:00:46You get paralyzed
00:00:47Which I was for 60 seconds
00:00:49You don't want to go back to that place again
00:00:51Did you think
00:00:52Austin 316 says I just whipped your ass
00:00:55It might be controversial
00:00:57Yeah
00:00:58Religious people
00:00:59Considered a blasphemy
00:01:00Who took the worst stunner of all time?
00:01:02Easily
00:01:03Oh, we are kicking off 2026 with a huge one
00:01:08Stone Cold Steve Austin
00:01:10And we recorded this at his Broken Skull Ranch
00:01:13I don't know how it gets bigger than this
00:01:15I don't know how we top this
00:01:17But I guess we've got the rest of the year
00:01:19To try to figure that out
00:01:21Unbelievable
00:01:22I hope to see you at the next Insight Live
00:01:26We just announced this
00:01:27Chicago
00:01:28I will see you the day before Elimination Chamber
00:01:30On Friday, February 27th
00:01:33Grab your tickets at CVVTix.com
00:01:36That's CVVTix.com
00:01:40Now if you enjoy this interview with Stone Cold
00:01:43Drop a hell yeah in the comments
00:01:46Great to see you
00:01:47Great to have you here man
00:01:49It's hard to get here
00:01:51Glad you found your way
00:01:52It's a little out of the way
00:01:54I like it like it
00:01:55Yeah
00:01:56Is that the plan?
00:01:57Look you got a ton of property here on the ranch
00:02:00Yeah, well I mean it was the plan
00:02:02And my wife and I decided it was time to get out of LA
00:02:05You know, a while back
00:02:06And we finally did
00:02:07And we ended up here
00:02:09If it was up to me in a perfect world
00:02:10I'd like to be further out
00:02:11Probably about 50 miles further out in the desert
00:02:13I have a place out there
00:02:15She didn't go there that much
00:02:16I would rather be a little bit further removed from civilization
00:02:20But this is handy
00:02:21And handy enough to go back and forth to town
00:02:23But if you're coming here from Florida
00:02:26Kevin Nash came here a long time ago
00:02:28And he goes man why in the hell are you here?
00:02:30He didn't really get it
00:02:31So it's beautiful outside and I love Nevada
00:02:34I don't know there's mountains over here
00:02:35With snow on it
00:02:36I mean this is beautiful
00:02:37You can do a lot of things here man
00:02:39Hunting, skiing, fishing
00:02:41And people out here are very active in the outdoors
00:02:44And kind of suits my taste as well
00:02:46People will be surprised that the Texas rattlesnake lives in Nevada
00:02:49God dang, you know when I was
00:02:50A lot of people still think I live in Texas
00:02:52And that's where I was born and raised
00:02:54And I'll always love Texas
00:02:56But at this point in my life
00:02:57Probably moving forward
00:02:58You know, Nevada is my home
00:03:00And with so much public land to roam around on
00:03:03And it's just been amazing hunting
00:03:06And I started racing anywhere you
00:03:09I just left this past weekend on one of my buggies
00:03:13Side by sides and drove a hundred miles
00:03:15So you know, it's hard to do that in another state
00:03:18I thought I might see some cats as we were walking in here
00:03:21The cats are out in the horse barn
00:03:22Solid ass cats
00:03:23Yeah, solid ass cats
00:03:25They're out roaming around
00:03:26Macho is prowling by the pond
00:03:28He's a hunter
00:03:29And Poncho will pretty much stay by the horse barn
00:03:32He has really befriended one of my wife's horses
00:03:35And so he'll jump on her back
00:03:37And they'll hang out together and nuzzle each other
00:03:39The solid ass cats are alive and well
00:03:42What makes a cat a solid ass cat?
00:03:45I don't know, I just came up with that
00:03:48And it's turned into a thing
00:03:51And people love to see those cats on Instagram
00:03:53So, you know, I was out there shoveling horse shit
00:03:56I think it was two years ago around Christmas
00:03:58And I just addressed the camera on my iPhone
00:04:02I said, hey man, this is Steven Poncho
00:04:04You know, wishing everybody a Merry Christmas
00:04:06And I didn't expect anything of it
00:04:08And just in subsequent posts
00:04:09Not trying to make it a thing
00:04:11It turned into a thing
00:04:12So it is what it is
00:04:13Well, I hope to meet the solid ass cats before we leave here
00:04:16When we leave
00:04:17You just gotta be real chill when you walk up to them
00:04:19Because they know strangers
00:04:21If it's a different sounding vehicle
00:04:23They know that it's not one of our vehicles
00:04:25And so Poncho is pretty leery
00:04:27And he watches out for Moncho
00:04:29So they're quite the duo
00:04:31And I hope to be able to introduce you to them
00:04:33You'll like them
00:04:34I can't wait
00:04:35What keeps you busy these days?
00:04:37Man, a lot of things
00:04:38I started racing side by sides
00:04:41UTVs
00:04:43About three years ago
00:04:45We were filming a show
00:04:46The show turned out badly
00:04:49But in the process
00:04:50I got into the racing community
00:04:53And did a poker run
00:04:55And my producer calls me
00:04:57And there was about six foot of snow back then
00:05:00And when the network greenlit the show
00:05:02We didn't even shoot a pilot
00:05:04And all of a sudden we just went to camera
00:05:06And so my wife and I are thinking
00:05:08Because we're just getting pounded with snow
00:05:09Six feet of snow in the valley
00:05:11Where I live is very uncommon
00:05:13And very hard to deal with
00:05:14And they said
00:05:15No, we're ready to start shooting right now
00:05:17So we started filming that
00:05:18And we got our asses handed to us for months
00:05:21And then in the process
00:05:23My producer says
00:05:24Hey, do you want to do a poker run?
00:05:25I don't play cards
00:05:27So I said, man, what is a poker run?
00:05:29And it's basically a poker run
00:05:31Is when you're running a course
00:05:32An outdoor desert racing course
00:05:34It might be
00:05:35The course might be 45 miles a loop
00:05:38Or might be 80 miles of a loop
00:05:40And you have a GPS device in your car
00:05:42So you ride the course to pre-run it
00:05:45To mark your dangers
00:05:46To know the course
00:05:47And then on race day
00:05:48The next day
00:05:49That's when you take off
00:05:50And do your thing
00:05:51So we just did the pre-run
00:05:53And so a few months later
00:05:55The guys called me up
00:05:56That I did the pre-run with
00:05:57And they said
00:05:58Hey, do you really want to start racing?
00:06:00And I thought about it for a second
00:06:02I said, man, yeah, I would
00:06:03And that's how I started
00:06:04And those guys were
00:06:05Those guys were really good
00:06:07And this year I split off on my own
00:06:09So we're currently building a new car
00:06:12I work with Kawasaki
00:06:13So we're building a supercharged car
00:06:14That's the H2
00:06:16250 horsepower
00:06:17We'll be going a lot faster this year
00:06:19We're building this
00:06:20The guy that's building this
00:06:21Is on the other side of Sacramento
00:06:23So I spent a lot of time
00:06:24Going back and forth
00:06:25Working on that
00:06:26I just celebrated
00:06:2710 years of being in business
00:06:28With El Segundo Brewing Company
00:06:30And being in the beer business
00:06:32And man, there's a lot of craft beer places
00:06:35That are kind of
00:06:36Falling by the wayside
00:06:37And we're still running strong
00:06:39So a 10 year anniversary with Kawasaki
00:06:41So that kind of stuff
00:06:43And a few things that I don't talk about
00:06:44On the side
00:06:45Keep me busy
00:06:46And helping my wife
00:06:48Run this place
00:06:49And taking care of the animals
00:06:50Broken Skull beer
00:06:51Was the only beer
00:06:52You were drinking in the ring, right?
00:06:53Well, you know, I drank every beer
00:06:55That there ever was
00:06:56You know, coming up
00:06:57You didn't have a preference?
00:06:58Oh, well, you know
00:06:59Well, back in the day
00:07:00You know, I remember
00:07:01We pitched Coors Light
00:07:02Many years ago
00:07:03When I was really on fire
00:07:05And I was way over the top
00:07:07And way too aggressive
00:07:08And they wouldn't touch me
00:07:09With a 10-foot pole
00:07:10And then, you know
00:07:12We were about to come out
00:07:13With Stone Cold beer
00:07:14Years ago
00:07:16And we were just about
00:07:17To go to packaging
00:07:18And that was
00:07:19About that time
00:07:20Where, you know
00:07:21Vince wanted me to
00:07:22Do the favor for Brock
00:07:23And I said, man
00:07:25F you
00:07:27You know
00:07:28Because it wasn't business
00:07:29I would
00:07:30Man, that was one of the things
00:07:31I really wish
00:07:32I would have got to do
00:07:33Was work with Brock Lesnar
00:07:34But it was just
00:07:35A terrible business decision
00:07:36To beat me
00:07:37On a Monday Night Raw
00:07:39Match
00:07:40No advertisement
00:07:41No pre-build
00:07:42Or anything like that
00:07:44That was a money match
00:07:45At a major pay-per-view
00:07:47So anyway
00:07:48When I took my ball
00:07:50And went home
00:07:51And I hate to talk about
00:07:52Some of this old stuff
00:07:53But that's when
00:07:54That part of the beer
00:07:56Aspect left
00:07:57And then all these years
00:07:58Removed to get into
00:07:59The beer business on my own
00:08:01It's been fun
00:08:02And it keeps me busy
00:08:04And it's not a
00:08:05It's a passion project
00:08:07It's not something
00:08:08I can just slap my name on
00:08:10A celebrity based
00:08:11Type thing
00:08:12You know
00:08:13I'm in it
00:08:14I help with
00:08:15The hop selection
00:08:17And everything else
00:08:18So I love it
00:08:19You don't get
00:08:20Rich in the beer business
00:08:22With just a couple
00:08:23Beers competing
00:08:24Against all the majors
00:08:25But I'm known
00:08:27I'm known for drinking beer
00:08:28And I still drink beer
00:08:29And I'm proud of
00:08:30The beer that we've created
00:08:31I like that you have now
00:08:33Crushed that rumor
00:08:34There's this rumor online
00:08:35That you don't drink beer anymore
00:08:36Yes
00:08:37I still drink beer
00:08:38But just
00:08:39You know
00:08:40It's kinda like
00:08:41The old timers
00:08:42Used to come up to you
00:08:43In the dressing room
00:08:44When you first start breaking
00:08:45Into business
00:08:46Kids you gotta pick your spots
00:08:47You know
00:08:48You don't take all those bumps
00:08:49So yeah
00:08:50These days you don't need
00:08:51All those hangovers
00:08:52You pick your spots
00:08:53Friday night
00:08:54Is kinda like
00:08:55I still eat
00:08:56And you know
00:08:57Watch what I eat
00:08:58Pretty strictly
00:08:59So Friday
00:09:00Is usually my beer night
00:09:01When I'll have a couple IPAs
00:09:03And that's when I
00:09:04You know
00:09:05Pick my spot
00:09:06And then it's red wine
00:09:07The rest of the time?
00:09:08Yeah
00:09:09There's that meme
00:09:10Going around
00:09:11Of my wife and I
00:09:12Was just me sitting there
00:09:13Holding a wine glass
00:09:14Cause she took the picture
00:09:15And you know
00:09:16Something about Uncle Steve
00:09:17Or this that
00:09:18Or whatever
00:09:19You know
00:09:20Everything turns into a meme
00:09:21But yeah
00:09:22My wife and I
00:09:23Have been going back and forth
00:09:24To Napa Valley
00:09:25For years
00:09:26And we love it out there
00:09:27And we're more into
00:09:28Pinot Noirs now
00:09:30So yeah man
00:09:31We try to get to Napa
00:09:33At least once a year
00:09:34Or every other year
00:09:35What's the most amount of beer
00:09:37That you ever drank in the ring
00:09:38After a match?
00:09:39It was over in Japan
00:09:41And I've talked about this before
00:09:42Cause the Dudleys were there
00:09:44And Stacey Keebler was there
00:09:45And there's a whole bunch of people
00:09:46That were in the ring
00:09:47And so I just started
00:09:48Tossing out beers
00:09:49But I think we went over a hundred
00:09:51And this is an Andre story
00:09:53But I believe there was
00:09:54A hundred beers involved in that
00:09:55Now did they all get drank
00:09:57Into completion?
00:09:58Sure
00:09:59It was spilled everywhere
00:10:00And thrown here, there, and wherever
00:10:02But I think that was
00:10:04About the biggest one ever
00:10:06Over in Japan
00:10:07And like
00:10:08I used to like get Goldberg
00:10:10In the ring
00:10:11And toss him beers
00:10:12On a few occasions
00:10:13That we did that
00:10:14Cause Bill don't drink
00:10:15He'll drink a beer or two
00:10:16But he doesn't really drink
00:10:17And so I'd keep force feeding him beers
00:10:19Cause if you're in the ring
00:10:20With Stone Cold
00:10:21You gotta drink the beer
00:10:22And I'd try to get him
00:10:23As hammered as I could
00:10:24Before he left the ring
00:10:25It's kind of an ongoing rib
00:10:26Between me and Bill
00:10:27I still keep up with him
00:10:28Pretty closely
00:10:29Did you ever feel a buzz
00:10:30After drinking those beers
00:10:31In the ring?
00:10:32Yeah man, because
00:10:33You're going into the ring
00:10:34You've already got
00:10:35An empty stomach
00:10:36Cause you're waiting there
00:10:37All day, you're waiting to work
00:10:38So it's not like
00:10:39You're back eating sandwiches
00:10:40And stuff
00:10:41So you're basically
00:10:42Drinking on an empty stomach
00:10:43And you know
00:10:44When you're guzzling
00:10:45That many beers
00:10:46Whatever goes on you
00:10:47The rest is going in you
00:10:48So yeah, by the time
00:10:49You go through
00:10:5012, 18 back
00:10:51And just dumping them
00:10:52Down your gullet
00:10:53You've absorbed a lot of them
00:10:54So yeah, there were
00:10:55You know, many, many, many occasions
00:10:57Where I left out of there
00:10:59And hit the road
00:11:00I had a pretty good buzz going on
00:11:01How did drinking beer
00:11:03Even become part of your celebration?
00:11:04I don't know
00:11:05Someone else asked me that
00:11:06A while back
00:11:07And Sandman was way before me
00:11:09Sure
00:11:10So I always give Sandman credit
00:11:11And then we evolved it
00:11:12Somehow, some way
00:11:13In a fashion that I don't think
00:11:15Was copying Sandman
00:11:17And I think he bashed him over
00:11:19His was part of his entrance more
00:11:21Yeah, but anyway
00:11:22But I always throw respect to Sandman
00:11:25Because I wasn't trying to rip him off
00:11:27But we weren't even thinking that
00:11:29When we started doing it
00:11:30And I don't even know how it came to be
00:11:32If it was something where I took
00:11:34A can from somebody in the audience
00:11:36And then it turned into a thing
00:11:37Or what
00:11:38As we were talking on the phone
00:11:40Before you came here
00:11:41I told you
00:11:42I told you
00:11:43I said, man
00:11:44There's a lot of my career
00:11:45That I remember
00:11:46But there are certain pieces
00:11:47That I don't remember
00:11:48And I can't remember exactly
00:11:50How that got started
00:11:51So that that would be
00:11:52One of those occasions
00:11:53Do you not remember stuff
00:11:54Just because you were go, go, go?
00:11:56You were in a different city
00:11:57Every day for years?
00:11:58Well, you know that
00:12:00And you know
00:12:01Man, that was 20, 30 years ago
00:12:03And it's hard to believe
00:12:04That it's been that long
00:12:05Because man, I still feel
00:12:07I'll be 61
00:12:10And what's the date?
00:12:12December 2nd or 4th?
00:12:132nd
00:12:14Okay, December 4th will be my
00:12:16One year anniversary
00:12:17We're on my knee replacement
00:12:1818th is my birthday
00:12:20So, shit man, I'm 61
00:12:22You forget a little bit
00:12:24Down the road of life
00:12:26And like I was telling you on the phone
00:12:28I still probably remember more stuff
00:12:30About the Rock and Roll Express
00:12:32And the Midnight Express feuds
00:12:33And Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes
00:12:35Than to do about my own career
00:12:36So, you gotta forget something along the way
00:12:39But I still
00:12:40Hell, I pulled a name out of my ass the other day
00:12:43My wife was asking me a question
00:12:45So, it's just funny how the memory works
00:12:48You look great though
00:12:49You look like you could still go
00:12:50I could
00:12:52God dang it
00:12:53And you know, just saying that
00:12:55Takes me back to when we did that
00:12:57WrestleMania match with Kevin Owens
00:12:59In Dallas, Texas
00:13:01And they didn't send a ring down for me to work out
00:13:04And to, you know, get any kind of timing
00:13:07Or hit the ropes
00:13:08I remember going down there
00:13:10And I was running the ropes
00:13:11And, you know, taking a couple flat back bumps
00:13:13Before we got into the ring
00:13:15But you can't get your timing
00:13:17Or any kind of anything back
00:13:19Or much less your wind
00:13:22And I was over here in my gym
00:13:23Doing all kinds of cardio
00:13:24Because, you know, when that glass breaks
00:13:26Or whoever's music hits
00:13:28And you start walking to the ring
00:13:29Man, just the buzz of the crowd
00:13:32I've seen people blow up walking to the ring
00:13:34Because that's just what a crowd can do to you
00:13:37And so just going there with Kevin Owens
00:13:40And trying to have that match with him
00:13:41Where we didn't bill it
00:13:43Didn't bill it as a match
00:13:44But, you know, it was going to be a match
00:13:46So to speak
00:13:47And I remember telling Kevin
00:13:50And I was knocking the shit out of him
00:13:53I was patating him so bad
00:13:54Because I ain't thrown a punch in 19 years
00:13:56Yeah
00:13:57And he never threw a receipt
00:13:59And I just, I told him
00:14:01Because we keep in touch with each other
00:14:03Every now and then
00:14:04And I just wish that he could have been in the ring with me
00:14:08When I was really going, you know, full speed
00:14:11And had my timing
00:14:12Because he's a great worker
00:14:13And I really like him a lot
00:14:15I wish he would have got a chance to experience me
00:14:17When I was in my prime
00:14:18Because that would have been a great contest
00:14:20But I could still, I could still do it
00:14:22And I'm not advocating for nothing
00:14:24So I'm not selling a match here, Chris
00:14:26But you asked me, could I?
00:14:28Yes
00:14:29Would you?
00:14:30Probably not
00:14:31I'll say that
00:14:32But you say never say never
00:14:34Sure
00:14:35You know, with the knee replacement I had last year
00:14:39God dang
00:14:40I was limping around so bad
00:14:42And I didn't even know I was limping
00:14:43And people would ask me, what's wrong?
00:14:45I said, what are you talking about?
00:14:47You're limping
00:14:48Fuck, I didn't know
00:14:49Because I don't watch myself walk
00:14:51And then finally, after everybody kept pointing it out to me
00:14:54I started, it was really, I could feel it
00:14:56No doubt
00:14:57That's why I was limping
00:14:58And then it just started getting really bad
00:15:01Because of all the arthritis in there
00:15:03And finally, last year I had it replaced
00:15:05And, you know, I was thinking, why didn't I do this?
00:15:08You know, to get out of so much pain
00:15:11And I've always wondered what arthritis felt like
00:15:14Man, I found out firsthand
00:15:15And it's chronically over time
00:15:18Years and years and years of it
00:15:20It'll change your personality
00:15:21And it just puts you in a state of mind
00:15:23Where you just want some relief
00:15:24So to get that relief
00:15:26And come out on the other side
00:15:28And still be active
00:15:30I don't really squat anymore
00:15:31I do, you know, like Hindu squats
00:15:33Free squats
00:15:34Like guys would do in their hotel room
00:15:36And I always had good legs
00:15:39So I'll do that to maintain them
00:15:41But anyway, still trying to keep in shape
00:15:44You gotta keep in shape
00:15:45Because first of all, it is who I am
00:15:48I started working out when I was in fifth grade
00:15:51And we were underneath the stadium in Edna, Texas
00:15:55Where I grew up
00:15:56And my brother was two years older than me
00:15:58And in junior high
00:15:59That's when you start football in Texas
00:16:01The seventh and eighth graders were in there training
00:16:03And I was over leaning against the wall
00:16:05Because I was in fifth grade
00:16:06I was too young
00:16:07And there was a coach
00:16:08His name was Coach Harper
00:16:09He goes, hey, who's that kid over there?
00:16:12My brother Scott said, that's my brother Steve
00:16:14Why is he here?
00:16:16Well, he's too young to play football
00:16:17He looked at me
00:16:19Instead of kicking me out of the stadium
00:16:21He goes, you want to lift weights?
00:16:23I said, yes, sir
00:16:24So I started training
00:16:26Wow
00:16:27At fifth grade
00:16:28Because Coach Harper let me in
00:16:29Rather than kicking me out
00:16:30So, you know, I've worked out my whole life
00:16:32And I'll continue to work out until I'm not alive
00:16:35Because you got to
00:16:36And when you feel like
00:16:37First of all, it's who I am
00:16:38Then as you were Stone Cold Steve Austin
00:16:40You just don't want to turn into a tub of shit
00:16:43Because, you know, the people remember you of how you were
00:16:46Yes, yeah
00:16:47So that's part of it
00:16:49You just got to
00:16:50And I was talking with Undertaker a few WrestleManias ago
00:16:53And we were by the ring
00:16:54And we were like, God dang, man
00:16:56It seems like it just passed by so fast
00:16:58Like, God damn, yesterday we was in the ring
00:17:01And here we are now
00:17:02The Grizzle Veterans
00:17:04And we were talking about workouts and stuff like that
00:17:07And Taker said this
00:17:09He goes, motion is lotion
00:17:11And I remember that
00:17:13So I always stay active
00:17:15Why was WrestleMania 38 the right time to have another match?
00:17:18And why was Kevin Owens the right opponent?
00:17:20It was in Dallas, Texas
00:17:22Vince flew down here
00:17:24And we had a conversation
00:17:26And I thought about it for a minute
00:17:28And I love Kevin Owens
00:17:30And he's just
00:17:32I think from a safety standpoint
00:17:35They picked Kevin
00:17:37And when they threw out just a couple of names
00:17:40Kevin was the guy
00:17:41Is it because he was also doing the stunner?
00:17:43Like there's a bit of a tie in there?
00:17:44No, no, it wasn't anything to do the stunner
00:17:46They just handpicked Kevin
00:17:48Because they know how good he is
00:17:50And he cuts a good promo
00:17:52I remember meeting Kevin
00:17:54A hundred years ago in the airport
00:17:56Coming to Sami Zayn
00:17:57It's a well-known story
00:17:58But anyway, I gave him some advice
00:18:00About, you know, learning how to promo and talk
00:18:02Instead of taking all those bumps
00:18:04And, you know, he's turned to him
00:18:06End up, Kevin Owens will end up in the Hall of Fame
00:18:08So, I mean, why not pick Kevin Owens
00:18:10For, for Stone Cold Steve Austin's opponent?
00:18:12How did it feel being back in the ring?
00:18:14Well, it was interesting
00:18:16Because there was different people
00:18:17That were, you know, making comments about that
00:18:20Triple H says
00:18:21You never know what you got until you get in there
00:18:23So you don't
00:18:24So you don't
00:18:25And he was right
00:18:26Hulk Hogan, God rest his soul
00:18:28Says, you know, you're not calloused up
00:18:30Because you haven't been on the road
00:18:32You haven't been taking bumps in the ring
00:18:34He was right
00:18:35Undertaker says
00:18:37There's no way that you can have timing
00:18:39Because you haven't been in the ring
00:18:40You know, over and over
00:18:42Every single night
00:18:43And he was right
00:18:44So, you know, on that night
00:18:46Walking to the ring
00:18:47I remember
00:18:48I couldn't hear the crowd like I wanted to
00:18:51Just because of the acoustics of that building
00:18:54And, man, I'm just real in tune
00:18:56With, you know, how the crowd responds to anything
00:18:59Particularly, you know, as anybody would
00:19:02Your entrance
00:19:03We blew the roof off the place
00:19:05So anyway
00:19:06We go into the match
00:19:08And it was fine
00:19:09You know, I blew up
00:19:10Because I hadn't had any reps in the ring
00:19:13But, you know, when I look back at that
00:19:16I rush through so many things
00:19:19I wish I would have slowed down more
00:19:21And savored it a little bit more
00:19:22And just entertained the crowd a little bit more
00:19:25And it was what it was
00:19:27We got away with it
00:19:28Because it was anticipated
00:19:30It was billed as my last match
00:19:31Because Dallas is where I started
00:19:33And Dallas is where I would finish
00:19:35So, for all the right reasons
00:19:37It was there to have that match
00:19:39And we pulled it off
00:19:41But, god dang
00:19:42I could have been better prepared
00:19:44And I would have loved to have been better
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00:20:48Before WrestleMania 38
00:20:49Your last match was WrestleMania 19 with The Rock
00:20:52Did you know going into that
00:20:54That was going to be your last match?
00:20:55Yeah, yeah, yeah
00:20:56And there was only a few people that knew
00:20:58I knew that was going to be my last match
00:21:00And I think Rock knew
00:21:02And then we had that little incident the night before
00:21:05But yeah, that was going to be my last match
00:21:07And it was until it wasn't
00:21:09And the incident the night before
00:21:10You went to the hospital, right?
00:21:11Yeah
00:21:12Yeah, it was just a thing where
00:21:14Man, I was running hard
00:21:16And dehydrated and drinking a lot of caffeine
00:21:20And I remember my legs were kind of shaking
00:21:23At the gym that day
00:21:24And it was just kind of a precursor
00:21:26For what was to come
00:21:28And I was working out with Kevin Nash
00:21:29And we were sitting there doing cardio
00:21:30And talking on the recumbent bikes
00:21:33And then when I got into the hotel
00:21:36I think it was at Grand Hyatt
00:21:37And I was up on like the top
00:21:39One of the top floors
00:21:4027, 28
00:21:41And God dang my heart just started beating out of my chest
00:21:47Like I timed it
00:21:48It's like about 180 beats a minute
00:21:50That sounds crazy, but that's what it was
00:21:51And then the doors opened
00:21:54And I've told this story many times
00:21:56And there was a lady that worked in the office
00:21:57Her name was Liz DeFabio
00:21:59Real nice lady
00:22:00And God damn
00:22:01I looked at Liz
00:22:02I said, Liz, I'm in trouble
00:22:04And my room was right there
00:22:05I went in my room
00:22:06And she called 911
00:22:08And a couple ambulances came
00:22:10And all that stuff
00:22:11And they towed me to the hospital
00:22:13They tried to
00:22:14But they had to K-fave me to the hospital
00:22:15Because, you know, I was in the main event
00:22:17Yeah
00:22:18And so, anyway, we get there
00:22:19They do a bunch of tests on me
00:22:21Checked me out and everything
00:22:22Thought I had a pulmonary embolism
00:22:23And stuff like that
00:22:24Turns out, man, I was just running ragged
00:22:26And so, anyway, doctor never really cleared me
00:22:30I've said this before
00:22:31And went to the ring the next day
00:22:33And, you know, put over the rock
00:22:34And took care of business
00:22:36Which could have done
00:22:37I think the match is okay
00:22:38Match is okay
00:22:40But, you know, that was just a product of
00:22:43Running too hard, too fast, too long
00:22:45Were you ready to say goodbye to wrestling
00:22:47At that point in time?
00:22:48Well, it was
00:22:49I was having some neurological issues
00:22:51You know, because of, you know
00:22:53Had fusion a couple years before
00:22:56I got back in
00:22:57Got back on top
00:22:58And just neurologically
00:23:01I wasn't all there
00:23:02And so, I just decided at that time
00:23:05And talking to Vince
00:23:06That it was time to pull the plug
00:23:08And do something else
00:23:09Or right off into the sunset
00:23:11And not risk, you know, damage
00:23:13And damaging myself any further
00:23:15From, you know
00:23:17It's hard to change your style
00:23:19Because I was more of
00:23:21Like a scientific wrestler, if you will
00:23:24Or I was trying to emulate Ric Flair
00:23:26You know, and no one's ever going to be Ric Flair
00:23:28Because he's the GOAT for me
00:23:30And, you know
00:23:32But once I got dropped on my head
00:23:34You know, I had to change my style
00:23:35And when I turned into more of a brawler
00:23:37You know, that worked for the Stone Cold Steve Austin persona
00:23:40So, you know, a tragedy or a mishap turned into a bonus
00:23:44As far as developing that character
00:23:47But, I don't know
00:23:50What more was there for you to accomplish though at that point?
00:23:52I feel like you had done it all
00:23:53Not really
00:23:54No, because, man
00:23:56I was on top for, you know, whatever it was
00:24:00I was respected as a mechanic, you know
00:24:03Coming out of USWA
00:24:05And then going to WCW
00:24:07You know, a little bureaucratic red tape
00:24:09In WCW
00:24:11And, you know, they put me and Brian together
00:24:13And I didn't want that
00:24:14And then once they put us together, I loved it
00:24:16And then they broke us up
00:24:17And I didn't want that
00:24:18And so, you know, I was respected as a mechanic
00:24:21You know, a guy people like to work with
00:24:24Because we were going to have good matches
00:24:25But I wasn't a star
00:24:26So, it took the change in style
00:24:28To, you know, turn into Stone Cold Steve Austin
00:24:31And it worked
00:24:32What's the star making moment, you think
00:24:35For Stone Cold?
00:24:36Because some people say it's the Austin 316 promo
00:24:39Maybe it's the WrestleMania 13 match with Bret
00:24:42Maybe it's the WrestleMania 14 match with Shawn
00:24:44I think all of them
00:24:45I think everything that happened
00:24:48Was a step for the next thing to happen
00:24:50And it was kind of like a momentum thing
00:24:53This finally started catching on and changing
00:24:56And I knew you would ask a question similar to this
00:25:01And I was thinking of the agents that were there
00:25:03When I first came in as a ringmaster
00:25:05And then I turned into Stone Cold
00:25:07Or maybe even before that
00:25:09But some of the guys that were really instrumental
00:25:12Or helpful to me
00:25:13As I was trying to struggle a little bit
00:25:16When I first got there
00:25:17And then trying to find my way
00:25:19I had been stunning Steve Austin, you know, previously
00:25:22And I had somewhat of an identity
00:25:24If not a defined character
00:25:25At least I knew who I was
00:25:27And so, you know, when I went there
00:25:29I just, I had a physical style
00:25:31And Black Jack Lanza
00:25:33Rene Goulet
00:25:35My name was Tony
00:25:37Tony's last name
00:25:40I'm skipping that
00:25:41A couple of those agents
00:25:43Pat Patterson
00:25:44Kept coming up to me
00:25:46And saying, Steve, you're gonna get over
00:25:48You're gonna get over
00:25:49Cause it's gonna take you longer to get over
00:25:52Cause I didn't really have a gimmick at the time
00:25:54It's gonna take
00:25:55It's gonna take you longer to get over
00:25:57But when you do
00:25:58You'll stay over
00:25:59Because this is who you are
00:26:01And your style will work
00:26:03And so, that ends up being what happened
00:26:06I think it was just a culmination of things building
00:26:09And turning out to be that
00:26:11All those things compiled
00:26:12Just kept gaining people's interest
00:26:14And I started getting over
00:26:15And getting attention
00:26:16And getting attention to Vince
00:26:18You know, enough to finally push me
00:26:20And it, you know
00:26:21Cause when I first came in
00:26:22With the Ringmaster gimmick
00:26:24It sucked, you know
00:26:26And I had nowhere to go with it
00:26:29And then the frustration level
00:26:30And then coming up with the name
00:26:32You know, we were, you know
00:26:34Going nowhere quickly
00:26:36And once I came up with the name
00:26:38We started going somewhere in time
00:26:40What was your original pitch
00:26:42Or your original idea
00:26:43For what Stone Cold was gonna become?
00:26:44We didn't know what it was gonna become
00:26:46We didn't know what it was gonna become
00:26:47But it was based off, you know
00:26:48A serial killer
00:26:49Or a hitman from the mob
00:26:50Whatever you wanna call it
00:26:51Richard Kuklinski
00:26:52And then, you know
00:26:54I was working heel
00:26:55And I hadn't put all the pieces together yet
00:26:57It was just something that
00:26:58It kind of evolved over time
00:26:59Grow to go TN
00:27:01You know, Vince wanted me to change my look
00:27:04When I came into the company
00:27:05I had that kind of long straggly hair
00:27:07So I gave myself the Bruce Willis buzz cut
00:27:09From Pulp Fiction
00:27:11And then one night
00:27:13When I was traveling with Goldust
00:27:14Dustin Rhodes, one of my favorite opponents
00:27:16And a good friend
00:27:18And we were gonna work
00:27:19Mellon Arena that night in Pittsburgh
00:27:21And so I just shaved my head
00:27:23Because I'm in that buzz haircut
00:27:24With my blonde hair
00:27:25You couldn't even see it anyway
00:27:26I didn't have the goatee
00:27:27It wasn't much of a look
00:27:29And man, I got the bill number
00:27:30I said, man, what'd you do that for?
00:27:32I said, what fucking difference does it make?
00:27:34You know, I ain't going nowhere
00:27:36You know, it's something to do
00:27:38Yeah
00:27:39And so anyway, I started growing the goatee
00:27:40And then, you know, kind of things
00:27:41You know, it's like a
00:27:44It's a process
00:27:45You know, I remember
00:27:47You just see guys or gals
00:27:50And they got something
00:27:52You just gotta find it
00:27:54And so I had something
00:27:56I just had to find it
00:27:57And it just took
00:27:58I guess I was in the business
00:28:00Seven years before I got to WWE
00:28:03And then it took me that long to find it
00:28:06I'd found pieces of it along the way
00:28:08Enough to get me to a certain level
00:28:10But to find the top level
00:28:12It's just
00:28:13I think it's luck
00:28:16It's studying
00:28:18And it's just taking chances
00:28:21How much did your theme song have to do
00:28:23With you getting over?
00:28:24Because it's one of the best theme songs of all time
00:28:26Oh, absolutely
00:28:27You know, and I remember
00:28:29You know, I remember
00:28:30You know, when I was down in WCW
00:28:32I had a pretty decent
00:28:33Little entrance song
00:28:34It was pretty rockin'
00:28:35And you could
00:28:36Wow, I was cocky
00:28:37As stunning Steve was
00:28:39And then when I came into WWE
00:28:41As I was using the Million Dollar Dream
00:28:43As my finish
00:28:44And I was a Million Dollar Champion
00:28:45They had this dreamy, slow music
00:28:48And I'm like
00:28:50Man, what the fuck?
00:28:51How do you walk to the ring
00:28:52With any kind of swagger to this?
00:28:55You know, and I was lost
00:28:56You know, finally they wanted to redo my music
00:28:59Because I turned it into Stone Cold Steve Austin
00:29:01And I just hit Jim Johnson with
00:29:03Hey man, I like Bulls on Parade
00:29:05I like Bulls on Parade
00:29:06From Rage Against the Machine
00:29:07So, you know, and
00:29:10If he listened to it once, twice
00:29:12Or didn't listen to it
00:29:13And he came up with what he came up with
00:29:15And he put the siren in there
00:29:16And the glass breaking
00:29:17Which wasn't part of that song
00:29:19So, I've always given him just
00:29:22The nth amount of credit
00:29:24Because, and he made winners
00:29:27And yeah man, that was
00:29:29God dang
00:29:30If that ain't one of the best interest songs
00:29:32Or top three
00:29:33I don't know what is
00:29:34I'm telling you
00:29:35Yeah
00:29:36And it's something about
00:29:37Jim Johnson adding the glass shattering at the start
00:29:39Yeah
00:29:40It just works
00:29:41Well it does
00:29:42Just because
00:29:43But it also worked with my character
00:29:45So, you have that instant explosion
00:29:47So, it just
00:29:49It lends itself to
00:29:52The pandemonium or an explosion in reaction
00:29:55Because
00:29:57Again, you can have that music
00:29:59And if you ain't over
00:30:00It ain't gonna do squat
00:30:01But if you
00:30:02But if you have something
00:30:04And you are over
00:30:05And you have that
00:30:06And everything works together
00:30:08Yeah, it works
00:30:09It works very well together
00:30:10When everything was clicking
00:30:12And you were the guy
00:30:13In WWE
00:30:14Did you feel it?
00:30:15Were you able to feel that?
00:30:16Yes
00:30:17Did you know when it started to pick up?
00:30:20Yeah
00:30:21It was in Chicago
00:30:23At a spot show
00:30:24In a tag match
00:30:25It was me, Undertaker
00:30:26Mark Merrow
00:30:27And one other guy
00:30:28And every time I got in that ring
00:30:29Something changed
00:30:30Something happened
00:30:31We'd pick up the pace a little bit
00:30:33And me and Taker
00:30:34Were on the same page
00:30:35And it just
00:30:36I could feel a groundswell
00:30:38Of like support from Chicago
00:30:40Chicago's always been a stronghold for me
00:30:42And I don't know why
00:30:43And of course
00:30:44You know 13 happened in Chicago
00:30:45And this was prior to then
00:30:47But for some reason
00:30:48The Chicago crowd
00:30:49Is always like me
00:30:50And that's when I first started feeling it
00:30:52Just in a house show
00:30:53In a
00:30:54Meaningless
00:30:56If you will
00:30:57Tag match
00:30:58But I could feel
00:31:00Hey man
00:31:01There's something going on here
00:31:02Something's changing
00:31:03And something's
00:31:04You know
00:31:05Gathering speed and momentum
00:31:06One of the
00:31:07Greatest matches of all time
00:31:09Is at WrestleMania 13
00:31:10You and Bret Hart
00:31:11Why were you guys able to make
00:31:13Such magic together?
00:31:14Because Bret Hart's the best there is
00:31:17The best there was
00:31:18There ever will be
00:31:19Bret
00:31:21I love
00:31:22I love working with that guy
00:31:23We just had instant chemistry
00:31:25He had been
00:31:26He was a student of the game
00:31:27And a student of other promotions
00:31:29And he had seen what I was doing
00:31:30And WCW
00:31:32Stunning Steve Austin
00:31:33And he knew his style
00:31:34And my style would work
00:31:35Well together
00:31:36And it did
00:31:37And it did
00:31:38Just a trash talking heel
00:31:39That I was
00:31:40And he was that
00:31:41That steady
00:31:42You know
00:31:43Workaholic
00:31:44You know
00:31:45Working baby face
00:31:47Hardcore
00:31:48Blue collar if you will
00:31:49Canada
00:31:50Wearing the pink
00:31:51Just two styles
00:31:53That would work really
00:31:54Really well together
00:31:55And it did
00:31:56And I'm very thankful
00:31:58That guy because
00:31:59You know
00:32:00He meant a lot to my career
00:32:01And I'll never forget that
00:32:02One time when I was
00:32:03He was just coming back
00:32:04He was just coming back
00:32:05From getting his knee cleaned up
00:32:07And he needed an opponent
00:32:09For what was it
00:32:10Survivor Series
00:32:11Or something like that
00:32:12And SummerSlam
00:32:13Whatever it was
00:32:14There in the garden
00:32:15And he picked me
00:32:16As his
00:32:17He picked me
00:32:18As his opponent
00:32:19And
00:32:20You know
00:32:21That was a
00:32:22That was a real classic
00:32:23An understated classic
00:32:25And if you go back
00:32:26And watch that match
00:32:27The rings were mic'd
00:32:28Differently
00:32:29Back in
00:32:30So that match sounds different
00:32:31The crowd's different
00:32:32And I was not the level
00:32:34That I would be
00:32:35But people were into that match
00:32:37And I had some mixed reactions
00:32:38Of course you know
00:32:39Brett was the baby face
00:32:40But for some reason
00:32:42You know when they ring the bell
00:32:43Brett and I click in the ring
00:32:45And I
00:32:46There's just
00:32:47It's mutual respect
00:32:49And
00:32:50For some reason
00:32:52With some people
00:32:53You just have great chemistry
00:32:55You and I could be best friends
00:32:57And we could go out there
00:32:58And work
00:32:59But we might not have
00:33:00The best in ring chemistry
00:33:01Although we're best friends
00:33:03So sometimes
00:33:04That just happens
00:33:05Like with The Rock
00:33:06Great chemistry
00:33:07With
00:33:08Mankind
00:33:09Great chemistry
00:33:10Who would you say
00:33:12Is your biggest rival?
00:33:13Vince
00:33:14Yeah
00:33:15Great chemistry
00:33:16Yeah
00:33:17That's the storyline
00:33:18That made me
00:33:19A mega fan
00:33:20Yeah
00:33:21You and Mr. McMahon
00:33:22Was it
00:33:23It was a wild storyline
00:33:24Because the idea of like
00:33:25This guy's doing what to his boss?
00:33:26He's doing the thing
00:33:27That everybody wanted to do
00:33:28Yeah
00:33:29How did that come together
00:33:30Of the idea of like
00:33:31You're working with
00:33:32You're working with the boss?
00:33:33I don't even remember
00:33:34I just remember
00:33:36He was interviewing me
00:33:37One time
00:33:38He was talking about
00:33:40Whoever was the president
00:33:41At the time
00:33:42It was a sanction
00:33:44Was it
00:33:45Wasn't guerrilla
00:33:47But I said
00:33:48On the interview
00:33:49He knows
00:33:50You're the boss Vince
00:33:51And you know
00:33:52I think you know
00:33:53Maybe that was
00:33:54When he woke up
00:33:55And said hey
00:33:56Let's do this
00:33:57I don't know
00:33:58He was the mastermind
00:33:59I don't know what he's doing now
00:34:00But you know
00:34:01That was a feud
00:34:03That transcended
00:34:04The wrestling business
00:34:05And even if you didn't
00:34:06Even if you weren't
00:34:07Like a wrestling fan per se
00:34:10You were interested
00:34:11In being entertained
00:34:12So you put on
00:34:13To see what this motherfucker
00:34:14From South Texas
00:34:16Is terrorizing his boss
00:34:17Is his boss from New York City
00:34:19And of course Vince
00:34:20Is from North Carolina
00:34:21But you know what I'm saying
00:34:22He's the guy
00:34:23With all the money
00:34:24And here's this guy
00:34:25That he's trying to give
00:34:26A hard time to
00:34:27And make everything hard for him
00:34:28And you know
00:34:29He's outsmarting him
00:34:30And he's kicking his ass
00:34:31And you know
00:34:32At some point
00:34:33In anybody's life
00:34:34They'd like to punch
00:34:35Your boss in the mouth
00:34:36And you know
00:34:37When it was time
00:34:38For me to
00:34:39To get mine in
00:34:40I did
00:34:41When it was time
00:34:42For Vince to get
00:34:43That heat back
00:34:44He did
00:34:45To keep furthering
00:34:46The storyline
00:34:47He was just
00:34:48You know
00:34:49A master at creating
00:34:50A storyline
00:34:51And feuding with him
00:34:52As long as we did
00:34:53And really it never
00:34:54Became boring
00:34:55Were you ever surprised
00:34:56That Vince was willing
00:34:57To do what he would do
00:34:58In the ring?
00:34:59Like he
00:35:00He went for it
00:35:01Always
00:35:02Yeah I've always said
00:35:03That Vince will go
00:35:04To any link
00:35:05To further any angle
00:35:07And obviously
00:35:08You know
00:35:09Considering him himself
00:35:10You know
00:35:11He wants to be
00:35:12You know
00:35:13The leader of the pack
00:35:14The king of the mountains
00:35:15So you know
00:35:17He'll do anything
00:35:18And you know
00:35:19Sacrificing himself
00:35:20Was part of it
00:35:21And I loved it
00:35:23And we were
00:35:24We were the perfect rivals
00:35:28Did you have like a
00:35:29Like a mindset
00:35:30You would take
00:35:31In every match
00:35:32Or like a
00:35:33A general just overview
00:35:34Of like the way
00:35:35That you approached
00:35:36Wrestling
00:35:37I mean matches
00:35:38And promos
00:35:39Not really promos
00:35:42But with a match
00:35:43It's like
00:35:44You know
00:35:45And I hate to be
00:35:46On a loop
00:35:47But I have said this before
00:35:49It's like
00:35:50When a glass breaks
00:35:51You know
00:35:52Like people say
00:35:53Oh yeah
00:35:54I'm going to go back
00:35:55And get into character
00:35:56Man I didn't have to
00:35:57Get into character
00:35:58That's who I was
00:35:59As a competitor
00:36:00Like on a football field
00:36:01That was my attitude
00:36:02You know
00:36:03I want to knock
00:36:04Knock your ass off
00:36:05You know
00:36:06Because that's what you do
00:36:07In football
00:36:08You hit
00:36:08Or you know
00:36:10Like if you're throwing
00:36:10The discus
00:36:11You gotta
00:36:11You know
00:36:12Throw it with
00:36:12Everything you got
00:36:13And so
00:36:14You're gonna go wrestle
00:36:15You're gonna go wrestle
00:36:16With everything you got
00:36:18And so
00:36:19To me
00:36:19It's like
00:36:20When that glass broke
00:36:21It's like
00:36:21Fuck you
00:36:22Here it is
00:36:23I'm gonna go beat
00:36:24Somebody's ass
00:36:25Of course we know
00:36:26It's work
00:36:26But I'm just saying
00:36:27Yeah that's the mindset
00:36:28That was
00:36:30Stone Cold Steve Austin
00:36:31I used to
00:36:32Always like when
00:36:33People would go back
00:36:35And do push ups
00:36:36Or use their rubber bands
00:36:37And get pumped up
00:36:38For a match
00:36:39And
00:36:39Fucking Jake's
00:36:40Snake robbers
00:36:41Snake would be
00:36:42Laying on the trash can
00:36:44In a bag
00:36:45He'd be over
00:36:46Smoking a cigarette
00:36:47Getting ready
00:36:48He'd hit his music
00:36:50He'd crush out his cigarette
00:36:51And walk to the ring
00:36:52And Jake was
00:36:53Jake was money
00:36:55I loved
00:36:55Watching Jake work
00:36:57I loved listening to his promos
00:36:58For me
00:36:59Instantaneous
00:37:01You could be having
00:37:02The worst day of your life
00:37:03Dragged out on the road
00:37:05Things ain't going on
00:37:06Good at the house
00:37:07But man
00:37:08You either got
00:37:11700 people out there
00:37:12Or you got
00:37:1319,000 people out there
00:37:14In a building
00:37:16That are ready
00:37:16To fucking go
00:37:17And they came to see you
00:37:19So you better put on a show
00:37:21Did you
00:37:22Were you very aware
00:37:23Of what the line was
00:37:23That you could walk up to
00:37:25And not go over
00:37:26Not get yourself
00:37:27Into trouble
00:37:28Well you have to be
00:37:29Because I mean
00:37:30You'd be an idiot
00:37:31If you
00:37:31You know
00:37:31There's a lot worse
00:37:33Words that I could have
00:37:34Said back in
00:37:35Would have gotten me
00:37:36Canned fast
00:37:38So yeah
00:37:39You know
00:37:40There's a limit
00:37:40But then
00:37:41You also know
00:37:42That you can push
00:37:43The limit
00:37:43And you know
00:37:45Like the saying
00:37:45The words
00:37:46And the things
00:37:46That I was doing
00:37:47And the middle fingers
00:37:49You know
00:37:49Not everybody's
00:37:49Going to think
00:37:50Just to start
00:37:50Flipping people off
00:37:51And or
00:37:52To even go that far
00:37:54Out on a
00:37:55Lim
00:37:56I remember
00:37:57Dallas Page
00:37:58A really good
00:37:59Friend of mine
00:37:59You know
00:38:00He was doing
00:38:01The diamond cutter
00:38:01Sign
00:38:02Whatever
00:38:02And boy
00:38:03When he would
00:38:04Hold up
00:38:04Those diamonds
00:38:05You know
00:38:06Everybody would
00:38:06Do it with him
00:38:07And Vince
00:38:08Was watching that
00:38:09And he goes
00:38:10Steve
00:38:10Is there some
00:38:12Kind of symbol
00:38:12Some kind of sign
00:38:13That you can hold up
00:38:14You know
00:38:15That other people
00:38:16Can do with you
00:38:16Rather than
00:38:17What you're doing
00:38:18Man it just
00:38:19It took me that long
00:38:20To answer the question
00:38:21I said no
00:38:22And fuck
00:38:25We went out there
00:38:25And just kept
00:38:26Flipping people off
00:38:27And then you know
00:38:28That's my most
00:38:29I don't really do
00:38:31Appearances
00:38:32But if I do
00:38:33That's my number one request
00:38:34Hey man can we
00:38:35Do the double bird
00:38:35Yeah we can
00:38:37And so
00:38:38You know
00:38:39Yeah
00:38:41Interesting
00:38:41But you got
00:38:44I was willing to
00:38:44God dang
00:38:45You know
00:38:46I hadn't pushed
00:38:47The limit
00:38:47You know
00:38:48Down in
00:38:48USWA
00:38:49You're there to learn
00:38:51I mean
00:38:52You're a sponge
00:38:52Soaking up everything
00:38:54It ain't your job
00:38:55To go out there
00:38:56And start pushing
00:38:57The envelope then
00:38:57Because you don't know shit
00:38:58You can't push the envelope
00:39:00You can't push
00:39:00What you don't know
00:39:01You need to learn
00:39:03And get some base information
00:39:04Before you can go
00:39:05WCW
00:39:06More you know
00:39:07More work
00:39:07And more work
00:39:08And push the envelope
00:39:09A little bit
00:39:10And then stylistically
00:39:11More
00:39:12Than from a character standpoint
00:39:14Stylistically
00:39:15And mechanically
00:39:15In the ring
00:39:16Then all of a sudden
00:39:17You start getting
00:39:18Some character development skills
00:39:19And you go from
00:39:20101 to 201
00:39:21To the next level
00:39:22That you know
00:39:23That's when you
00:39:23You start
00:39:24You know
00:39:24Pushing and
00:39:25Feeling
00:39:26Okay
00:39:26I have
00:39:27A little bit
00:39:27Of a swell
00:39:28Behind me
00:39:29I can
00:39:29I can
00:39:29I can push more
00:39:31Because
00:39:31I mean more
00:39:32And so
00:39:34You know
00:39:34And if you don't
00:39:35If you try to push too fast
00:39:37You're the guy
00:39:37That's the asshole
00:39:38And wants too much
00:39:40Too soon
00:39:40Man
00:39:41I've been
00:39:42You know
00:39:42Around for seven years
00:39:43And once I started
00:39:45Feeling it
00:39:45I went with it
00:39:46And you could
00:39:47Pull me back in
00:39:48Or kind of
00:39:49Have a talk with me
00:39:50But you didn't have
00:39:51To push me
00:39:51Any further out
00:39:52Because I was
00:39:52Going to go
00:39:53But to go too far
00:39:54And just say
00:39:55Say things too stupid
00:39:56Would be too crass
00:39:57And you would be
00:39:59You know
00:39:59Cutting your own self
00:40:00You don't want to
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00:40:38What was the first
00:40:40Catchphrase that got over?
00:40:42Shit I don't know
00:40:43Well Austin 316
00:40:45Says I just whipped
00:40:46Your ass
00:40:47And that's the bottom line
00:40:48Because don't go
00:40:49Said so I guess
00:40:50Where'd you come up with
00:40:51That's the bottom line
00:40:52I didn't know what that meant
00:40:53Till I heard you say it
00:40:54Shit man
00:40:55If you watch some of the
00:40:57Old promos I did
00:40:58In WCW
00:40:59I said bottom line
00:41:01Every now and then
00:41:02But just as
00:41:03A thing that I would say
00:41:05Every now and then
00:41:05And then when we did
00:41:07That promo
00:41:08At King of the Ring
00:41:09You know
00:41:10I went out there
00:41:10And Mark Merrow
00:41:11He did that fancy
00:41:12Dan Flip
00:41:13And kicked me in the mouth
00:41:14And they took me to hospital
00:41:15And I got 14 stitches
00:41:16I was still in my ring gear
00:41:17And I came back
00:41:18And as soon as
00:41:19I get out of ambulance
00:41:20There's Doc Hendricks
00:41:22He goes
00:41:22Hey man
00:41:22I just want to let you know
00:41:24While you're gone
00:41:25You know
00:41:25Jake is who I was going to
00:41:27Face in the finals
00:41:28Jake Roberts
00:41:29Cut a religious promo
00:41:30On you
00:41:31I said
00:41:31Well what did he say
00:41:32And he said
00:41:33Something about religion
00:41:34Or you know
00:41:35Needing God's help
00:41:36To beat me
00:41:36You know
00:41:37Out of that
00:41:38You know
00:41:39I just
00:41:39Met Austin 316
00:41:40Because back in the day
00:41:41They would hold up
00:41:42The John 316 signs
00:41:43In the end zone
00:41:44When people were
00:41:45Kicking a point
00:41:46After the touchdown
00:41:47And it just
00:41:48Immediately
00:41:49You know
00:41:50Sprung into my mind
00:41:51To say that
00:41:52And I went out there
00:41:54And that was
00:41:55That was an ad-lib promo
00:41:56Man I didn't make
00:41:57All that stuff
00:41:57I didn't have time to
00:41:58I was in a hospital
00:41:59I didn't know
00:42:00What was going to happen
00:42:01I get out
00:42:02And I'm walking to the ring
00:42:03With stitches in my mouth
00:42:05And I shit out that promo
00:42:07And then
00:42:08You know
00:42:08This was when Vince
00:42:09It's kind of like an RF feed
00:42:11Because I could hear
00:42:12What he was saying
00:42:12And he was over by the ring
00:42:14Because he was announcing
00:42:15At that time
00:42:15And I was like
00:42:16Oh Vince is a fixed
00:42:17Throw to the next match
00:42:18And I'm talking to
00:42:19Doc Hendricks
00:42:20Addressing this camera
00:42:21Right here
00:42:21And I said
00:42:23Man I need a button
00:42:24On this promo
00:42:24And I'd already said
00:42:26Austin 316
00:42:28Says I just
00:42:29Whipped your ass
00:42:29And the button
00:42:30Needed to be something
00:42:31And I just said
00:42:33And that's the bottom line
00:42:34Because Stone Cold
00:42:35Said so turn
00:42:36And people didn't
00:42:37Really know what to think
00:42:38A couple of them
00:42:39Kind of cheered
00:42:40As a mixed reaction
00:42:41If anything
00:42:42And it's like
00:42:42Motherfucker
00:42:43That was kind of stiff
00:42:45But it stuck
00:42:46But the reason
00:42:47For that second
00:42:49You know
00:42:50Thing
00:42:51Was I needed a button
00:42:53To wrap up a promo
00:42:54And that's all it was
00:42:55Did you think
00:42:56That saying
00:42:57Austin 360
00:42:58Might be controversial
00:42:59At the time
00:42:59Yeah
00:43:00I did
00:43:01Yeah
00:43:01You know
00:43:01People
00:43:02You know
00:43:02Religious people
00:43:03Stuff like that
00:43:04Could have considered
00:43:05A blasphemy
00:43:06I remember
00:43:06Walking through airports
00:43:08And I would get
00:43:09Priests and stuff like that
00:43:11Because you could see
00:43:11They were
00:43:12Because they were
00:43:12Wearing their stuff
00:43:13In the airport
00:43:13And wearing a gimmick
00:43:14You never wore your gimmick
00:43:16And you never wear
00:43:17You don't wear
00:43:17Austin 316 shirts
00:43:19And if anybody wore
00:43:21Their t-shirt
00:43:21To the airport
00:43:22That was
00:43:23Dude
00:43:23You're a mark
00:43:25You wear shit
00:43:26In the building
00:43:27But anyway
00:43:27So I would be
00:43:29Signing autographs
00:43:29For preachers
00:43:30And stuff like that
00:43:31In the airports
00:43:32And I said
00:43:32Man you ain't mad
00:43:33About the Austin 316
00:43:34Oh no Steve
00:43:36It's okay
00:43:36But at the time
00:43:40Could it be construed as
00:43:42Sure
00:43:42Yeah but certainly
00:43:43And it was by some
00:43:44What's your favorite
00:43:45T-shirt design
00:43:46That's not Austin 316
00:43:48I would imagine
00:43:50That's number one
00:43:51Well yeah it is
00:43:52Because
00:43:52It's because
00:43:53You know
00:43:54When Jimmy Miranda
00:43:55Was doing
00:43:55You know
00:43:56He was the guy
00:43:56That pushed all the merch
00:43:58And they didn't want
00:43:59To come out
00:43:59With any shirts for me
00:44:00And then finally
00:44:01And I've told this story
00:44:02A bunch of times
00:44:03I'm not trying to tell it again
00:44:04But Jimmy comes up to me
00:44:05Finally after
00:44:07You know
00:44:07They're pushing
00:44:07Vader
00:44:08They're pushing
00:44:08Mick Foley
00:44:10They're pushing
00:44:11Mark Merrow
00:44:12Mark Henry
00:44:13Coming out of the Olympics
00:44:14Strongest guy in the world
00:44:16And finally
00:44:17Jimmy comes up to me
00:44:19He goes
00:44:19Steven
00:44:20Office
00:44:20Finally wants to do
00:44:22A t-shirt for you
00:44:23Do you got any ideas?
00:44:25And I'll never forget it
00:44:25I was so frustrated
00:44:26Because you know
00:44:27He makes some money
00:44:27On merch
00:44:28And I said
00:44:29You got damn right
00:44:30What did I do?
00:44:31I said
00:44:31Get a t-shirt
00:44:32Put Austin 316 on it
00:44:34And put a skull
00:44:35On the back
00:44:35And carve in
00:44:36Snow and cold
00:44:37It goes
00:44:37That's your t-shirt
00:44:38And so
00:44:39Sure enough
00:44:39That's how that shirt
00:44:40Came to be
00:44:40So yeah
00:44:41I love that shirt
00:44:42Other favorite
00:44:44Some of the ones
00:44:45That some of the
00:44:46Licensees
00:44:47Ended up coming up with
00:44:48That half skull
00:44:49Half skull
00:44:51Looks like
00:44:52Kind of bluish
00:44:52And then
00:44:53My face was
00:44:54On the other side
00:44:55Just
00:44:55Certain different
00:44:57Different variations
00:44:58I didn't really dwell
00:45:00On them too much
00:45:02You've driven
00:45:02So many different vehicles
00:45:04Cement truck
00:45:05Beer truck
00:45:06Forklift
00:45:06Zamboni
00:45:07What was the most
00:45:08Difficult one to drive?
00:45:10None of them
00:45:11Were that bad
00:45:11You know
00:45:13The one
00:45:13Where I
00:45:14Came in on the
00:45:15Cement truck
00:45:16And folded down
00:45:17All those little gates
00:45:18To fill up
00:45:20That Corvette
00:45:20Was
00:45:22Interesting
00:45:23Because
00:45:23Back in the day
00:45:24They didn't have
00:45:25A piece of tape
00:45:26On the ground
00:45:27As a mark
00:45:28For me to hit
00:45:28We were talking
00:45:29Movies before
00:45:30We started rolling
00:45:30So you know
00:45:31You're hitting marks
00:45:32In movies
00:45:33And so you know
00:45:34I needed to hit
00:45:34This certain mark
00:45:35To make
00:45:36You know
00:45:36The distance work out
00:45:37As those levers
00:45:38Kept folding down
00:45:39For me to pull
00:45:40The lever
00:45:40To get that
00:45:41Concrete spinning
00:45:42And roll down
00:45:42That ramp
00:45:43Into that Corvette
00:45:44So you know
00:45:45That's live TV
00:45:46That's Nassau Coliseum
00:45:47And so man
00:45:49You damn sure
00:45:49Don't want to
00:45:50Screw up
00:45:51A Nassau Coliseum
00:45:52Because they're
00:45:52Going to let you
00:45:53Know you screwed up
00:45:54And so it just
00:45:55Turned out perfectly
00:45:56You know
00:45:56The glass
00:45:57Blew out
00:45:58On the passenger side
00:45:58That was a money
00:45:59Shot that we
00:46:00Didn't expect
00:46:01To happen
00:46:01It turned out
00:46:02To be gold
00:46:02But I've always
00:46:04Been kind of handy
00:46:05Because driving
00:46:06Tractors and stuff
00:46:07When I was a kid
00:46:07I can you know
00:46:09Kind of understand
00:46:10The concept of
00:46:11Driving things
00:46:12Pretty easily
00:46:13So I wouldn't
00:46:14Think
00:46:14I don't think
00:46:16That anything
00:46:17Was particularly
00:46:18Difficult
00:46:18When you ran
00:46:19Over the light
00:46:20Stand with
00:46:20The Zamboni
00:46:21I remember
00:46:22Watching that
00:46:22Being like
00:46:22This thing's
00:46:23Going to stop
00:46:24Like it's
00:46:26Not going to
00:46:26Be able to
00:46:26Keep going
00:46:27Man you know
00:46:29And I wasn't
00:46:29Thinking about
00:46:30The time
00:46:30But I saw
00:46:31That I was
00:46:31About to hit
00:46:32That
00:46:32I was like
00:46:32Well this
00:46:33Be good
00:46:33Carnage
00:46:33And because
00:46:34You know
00:46:35You're going
00:46:35Full speed
00:46:35That glass
00:46:36Breaks here
00:46:36I go out
00:46:37There
00:46:37And that's
00:46:37Kind of like
00:46:38That's like
00:46:39A hydrostatic
00:46:39Thing
00:46:40The way
00:46:40That thing
00:46:40Moves forward
00:46:41And I remember
00:46:42If you remember
00:46:43That I bumped
00:46:44The ring
00:46:45You know
00:46:45Pretty snug
00:46:46Because I moved
00:46:46It back
00:46:46About 6-12 inches
00:46:47For the effect
00:46:48And then jumped
00:46:50Off and clothesline
00:46:51Vents
00:46:51That was fun
00:46:52And I was
00:46:53Actually
00:46:53Concerned that I
00:46:55Was going to
00:46:55Break the Zamboni
00:46:56Because the Zamboni
00:46:57Guy did that
00:46:58For a living
00:46:59And I didn't
00:46:59Want to fuck
00:47:00Up his ride
00:47:00So that
00:47:01His brother
00:47:01Couldn't make
00:47:02A living
00:47:02Anymore
00:47:02I was actually
00:47:03Trying to baby
00:47:04The thing
00:47:05But then once
00:47:05I came out
00:47:06Of there
00:47:06I said
00:47:07Oh man
00:47:07We're going
00:47:08To go to town
00:47:09On this one
00:47:10I don't imagine
00:47:11You were able
00:47:11To practice
00:47:12The beer truck
00:47:12Like you weren't
00:47:13Able to like
00:47:14Spray the hose
00:47:14And make sure
00:47:15It worked
00:47:15No
00:47:16How did you
00:47:16Know it was
00:47:17Going to go
00:47:17Off as well
00:47:18As it did
00:47:18I didn't
00:47:20You know
00:47:20That's why
00:47:21You know
00:47:21Like when
00:47:22Things go bad
00:47:23You better
00:47:23You know
00:47:24If you don't
00:47:25Have plan B
00:47:25Just ad lib
00:47:27And I'm good
00:47:28At ad libbing
00:47:29And so
00:47:30We was able
00:47:31To pull that off
00:47:31And I don't even
00:47:32Know how they
00:47:32Rigged this up
00:47:33But like the
00:47:34First 30 gallons
00:47:35Were beer
00:47:35Because it had
00:47:36To be
00:47:37Because we were
00:47:37Spraying beer
00:47:38And that first
00:47:40Those first rows
00:47:41It kind of got
00:47:41Sprayed with a lot
00:47:42Of that
00:47:42And you see
00:47:42The foam
00:47:43But that's real
00:47:43Beer
00:47:44And then it
00:47:44Turned to water
00:47:45And I don't know
00:47:45How they rigged
00:47:46That up
00:47:46But they did
00:47:47And I think
00:47:48I was riding
00:47:48Shotgun on that
00:47:49And then
00:47:50The fireman
00:47:52Drove that in
00:47:53But it's just
00:47:53One of those
00:47:54Things
00:47:54And then
00:47:54Climbing up
00:47:55On the truck
00:47:55Was an ad lib
00:47:58And pulling
00:47:59All that off
00:48:00So I don't know
00:48:01You just go out
00:48:01There and do
00:48:02Things
00:48:02You let things
00:48:02Happen
00:48:03I find it
00:48:04Best
00:48:04You know
00:48:07When you go
00:48:07Out there
00:48:07And you just
00:48:08Have a few
00:48:09Things to remember
00:48:10If you've got
00:48:10It all mapped
00:48:11Out
00:48:11And then you're
00:48:12Trying to follow
00:48:12The map
00:48:13You don't feel
00:48:14As free
00:48:14You know
00:48:15You're not
00:48:16Thinking
00:48:16You're just
00:48:17Going according
00:48:18To the memory
00:48:18But you know
00:48:20If you're just
00:48:20Responding to
00:48:21You know
00:48:22Whatever's going
00:48:23On and soaking
00:48:24Everything in
00:48:25You can look
00:48:25Around and say
00:48:26God damn
00:48:27It'd be good
00:48:27If I did this
00:48:28Or I don't
00:48:29I forget that
00:48:29One time
00:48:29When Taker
00:48:30Had that symbol
00:48:31In there
00:48:31It was a cross
00:48:32It was
00:48:33Leaning against
00:48:34The ropes
00:48:35I got on there
00:48:36And started
00:48:36Surfing on it
00:48:37And you know
00:48:38That wasn't
00:48:38Part of the plan
00:48:39It was just like
00:48:40Hey man
00:48:40What can I do
00:48:41To use that
00:48:42And make it
00:48:43Entertaining
00:48:44So that's
00:48:45What I'd always do
00:48:46Just you know
00:48:47Like talking
00:48:48To the people
00:48:48After the shows
00:48:50You know
00:48:51That Christian
00:48:51Book lady
00:48:52Down in Nashville
00:48:53You know
00:48:54I was asking people
00:48:55Hey man
00:48:55What do you do
00:48:55For a living
00:48:56Of course
00:48:56I'd talk shit
00:48:57To them
00:48:57And rag them
00:48:58And that lady
00:49:00I said
00:49:01What do you do
00:49:02She goes
00:49:02I work for
00:49:03A Christian
00:49:04Publishing company
00:49:05And if there's
00:49:06One thing
00:49:06I can't stand
00:49:07What am I
00:49:07Going to do
00:49:07Blast
00:49:08This lady
00:49:09Who works
00:49:10For a religious
00:49:10Publishing company
00:49:11I just
00:49:12I just shit
00:49:13Can the mic
00:49:13And everybody
00:49:14Popped
00:49:14Cause I couldn't
00:49:15Couldn't rag her
00:49:16For the obvious
00:49:17Reasons
00:49:18And people
00:49:18Got it
00:49:19So stuff
00:49:20Like that
00:49:21It's fun
00:49:22To ad lib
00:49:22And not go
00:49:23To a planned
00:49:24Course
00:49:24Is that how
00:49:25You planned
00:49:25Out your promos
00:49:26Just like
00:49:27Bullet points
00:49:27Man I
00:49:28Man a lot
00:49:30Of those
00:49:30Are kind of
00:49:30Off the cuff
00:49:31I
00:49:31I gotta say
00:49:33That
00:49:33I remember
00:49:34When I came
00:49:34Back from my
00:49:35Next surgery
00:49:35And they
00:49:36Handed me
00:49:36A piece
00:49:37Of paper
00:49:37I said
00:49:38What the
00:49:38Fuck
00:49:38Is this
00:49:39This
00:49:39Is what
00:49:40You say
00:49:40And I
00:49:42Was like
00:49:43I've never
00:49:44Used a piece
00:49:45Of paper
00:49:45To say
00:49:46Anything
00:49:46In my
00:49:46Life
00:49:47I've been
00:49:47Making my
00:49:48Own shit
00:49:48Up
00:49:48But that
00:49:49Was the
00:49:50New system
00:49:50And then
00:49:51I remember
00:49:52Every now
00:49:52And then
00:49:52We would
00:49:53Go in
00:49:53There
00:49:53And someone
00:49:54Would come
00:49:54Up to me
00:49:55Because I
00:49:55Was working
00:49:55With Vince
00:49:56And he'd
00:49:57Say hey
00:49:57Man Vince
00:49:58Want us to
00:49:58Go get a
00:49:59Promo with
00:49:59You
00:50:00I said
00:50:01Man right
00:50:02Now
00:50:02Yeah
00:50:02So I'd
00:50:04Go in
00:50:04There
00:50:04And I'll
00:50:05Say
00:50:05Give me
00:50:06The piece
00:50:06Of paper
00:50:07And Vince
00:50:07Had his
00:50:07Paper
00:50:07Vince
00:50:09I am
00:50:09Going to
00:50:10Tear you
00:50:10Limb
00:50:11From limb
00:50:11This is
00:50:12The last
00:50:13Time
00:50:13I was
00:50:14Reading
00:50:14Gimmick
00:50:14Like right
00:50:15There
00:50:15God damn
00:50:16It Steve
00:50:16He goes
00:50:17Read like
00:50:18Fuck
00:50:19I'm gonna
00:50:19Give it
00:50:20To you
00:50:20Like I'm
00:50:21Gonna give
00:50:21It to you
00:50:22You know
00:50:22Out there
00:50:23But I'm
00:50:23Not gonna
00:50:23Do it
00:50:23Here
00:50:24You know
00:50:24Because then
00:50:25That would
00:50:26Put me
00:50:26In a box
00:50:27And then
00:50:28I didn't
00:50:28Want to
00:50:28Memorize
00:50:29The thing
00:50:29Anyway
00:50:29So I
00:50:30Didn't
00:50:31Like to
00:50:31Do that
00:50:31But there
00:50:32Was not
00:50:32A whole
00:50:32Lot of
00:50:33There was
00:50:35That
00:50:36You know
00:50:36Like
00:50:36Cena
00:50:37Who's
00:50:37Tremendous
00:50:38On a
00:50:38Microphone
00:50:38Has his
00:50:39Own style
00:50:39And he
00:50:40Could
00:50:40Take
00:50:40Now
00:50:41Probably
00:50:41Of course
00:50:42He's
00:50:42John
00:50:42Cena
00:50:43He can
00:50:44Take
00:50:44Just anything
00:50:44They
00:50:45Say hey
00:50:46Could you
00:50:46Just get
00:50:46This point
00:50:46Across
00:50:47And he's
00:50:47Gonna go
00:50:48Get it
00:50:48Across
00:50:48In his
00:50:49Fashion
00:50:49And he's
00:50:50Just one
00:50:51Of the
00:50:51Greatest
00:50:51Talkers
00:50:52Ever
00:50:52So I
00:50:53Didn't
00:50:53Really
00:50:53Put a
00:50:54Whole lot
00:50:54Of thought
00:50:55Into it
00:50:55Certainly
00:50:55I did
00:50:56But it
00:50:56Wasn't
00:50:57From a
00:50:57Standpoint
00:50:58Of trying
00:50:59To build
00:51:00To anything
00:51:00It was
00:51:01Man it was
00:51:02Just a
00:51:02Freeform
00:51:03Trash
00:51:04Talking
00:51:04Style
00:51:04Speaking
00:51:05Of promos
00:51:06And catch
00:51:06Frazes
00:51:06I can't
00:51:08Believe
00:51:0820 plus
00:51:09Years later
00:51:09People are
00:51:10Still saying
00:51:10What
00:51:10Yeah
00:51:11A lot
00:51:12Of people
00:51:12Wish I
00:51:12Wouldn't
00:51:13Have done
00:51:13That
00:51:13But it
00:51:16Just turned
00:51:16Into something
00:51:17To do
00:51:17Because when
00:51:19I turned
00:51:19Hill
00:51:19Not everybody
00:51:20Nobody wanted
00:51:21Me to turn
00:51:22Hill
00:51:22But I was
00:51:23Just upset
00:51:23On turning
00:51:24Hill
00:51:24Because I've
00:51:24Always liked
00:51:25Working
00:51:25Hill
00:51:25So much
00:51:26So that
00:51:26Was your
00:51:27Call
00:51:27Yeah
00:51:27And I
00:51:28Wish Vince
00:51:29Would have
00:51:29Shot me
00:51:29Down
00:51:30Or I
00:51:30Wish
00:51:30You know
00:51:32I felt it
00:51:33In the ring
00:51:33At night
00:51:33I should
00:51:34Have just
00:51:34Said hey
00:51:35Man
00:51:35We're
00:51:35Changing
00:51:36This
00:51:36I said
00:51:37Watch the
00:51:37Stunner
00:51:37I should
00:51:38Have just
00:51:38Stunned
00:51:38His ass
00:51:39And never
00:51:39Went down
00:51:39That road
00:51:40But you
00:51:41Know
00:51:42As a
00:51:42Means to
00:51:43An end
00:51:43You know
00:51:44I was
00:51:45Leaving
00:51:45Christian
00:51:46A voicemail
00:51:47And kept
00:51:47Saying what
00:51:47What
00:51:48You know
00:51:48I just
00:51:49Turned it
00:51:49Into this
00:51:50Thing
00:51:50And to
00:51:51Berate
00:51:52Somebody
00:51:52You know
00:51:53To belittle
00:51:53Somebody
00:51:54As a
00:51:54Hill
00:51:55And so
00:51:56I used
00:51:56That as
00:51:57A mechanism
00:51:58To do
00:51:58That
00:51:59As a
00:52:00Means to
00:52:00An end
00:52:00To try
00:52:01To get
00:52:01Heat
00:52:01And that
00:52:02Whole attempt
00:52:03Was
00:52:04Overtrying
00:52:05Just to
00:52:06Compensate
00:52:07And gain
00:52:08Ground on
00:52:08Getting
00:52:09Heat
00:52:09And just
00:52:10You know
00:52:11I remember
00:52:11Huntering myself
00:52:13As a two
00:52:13Man power
00:52:14Trip
00:52:14You know
00:52:15Just shellacking
00:52:16People with
00:52:17Chairs
00:52:18I mean
00:52:18You know
00:52:19Trying so
00:52:20Hard
00:52:21Through violence
00:52:23To get
00:52:24Heat
00:52:24Which is
00:52:24Not always
00:52:26The best
00:52:26Way to get
00:52:26Heat
00:52:27And by
00:52:27Laying
00:52:28Stuff in
00:52:28And it
00:52:29Was
00:52:30It was
00:52:30An interesting
00:52:30Period
00:52:31The hill
00:52:31Thing
00:52:32If I
00:52:35Could go
00:52:35Back in
00:52:35Time
00:52:36I would
00:52:36Not have
00:52:37Done it
00:52:37Really
00:52:37Because I
00:52:38Didn't need
00:52:38To
00:52:38And people
00:52:39I think
00:52:40Jim Ross
00:52:41Said it
00:52:42Best
00:52:42I mean
00:52:42Nobody
00:52:43Ever wanted
00:52:43To hate
00:52:43John Wayne
00:52:44I wasn't
00:52:45John Wayne
00:52:45But I
00:52:46Was the
00:52:46Antihero
00:52:47You know
00:52:48I got
00:52:48Over by
00:52:49Being
00:52:49You know
00:52:50The way
00:52:51I was
00:52:51And so
00:52:52To turn
00:52:53Bad
00:52:54To try
00:52:55To try
00:52:55To do
00:52:56Worse
00:52:56Things
00:52:57I don't
00:52:57Know
00:52:57It just
00:52:57It didn't
00:52:58Work
00:52:59It wasn't
00:53:00Successful
00:53:00We got
00:53:01A chance
00:53:01To
00:53:02You know
00:53:03Push the
00:53:03Character
00:53:04In different
00:53:04Directions
00:53:05And different
00:53:05Dimensions
00:53:06But I
00:53:07Don't think
00:53:08We were
00:53:08Really ringing
00:53:09Up the
00:53:09You know
00:53:10The box
00:53:10Office
00:53:11Doing that
00:53:11What did
00:53:12You think
00:53:12Of John Cena's
00:53:12Heel turn
00:53:13This year
00:53:13Everybody
00:53:14Not everybody
00:53:16A lot of
00:53:17People wanted
00:53:17To see
00:53:18At least
00:53:18One
00:53:19John Cena
00:53:20Heel turn
00:53:21In his
00:53:21Run
00:53:21And
00:53:24It was
00:53:26Okay
00:53:26It was
00:53:27Okay
00:53:28You know
00:53:28I like him
00:53:32Better as
00:53:32Babyface
00:53:32I wanted
00:53:33To see him
00:53:33As a
00:53:34Heel
00:53:34At some
00:53:35Point
00:53:35During his
00:53:35Career
00:53:36The way
00:53:38That it
00:53:38Was done
00:53:38And I'm
00:53:39Not knocking
00:53:39Booking
00:53:40Just like
00:53:41Man
00:53:41This far
00:53:42In
00:53:42Forget about
00:53:43It
00:53:43Just let
00:53:44Him do
00:53:44His
00:53:44Thing
00:53:44Fucking
00:53:45Kids
00:53:45Love
00:53:46That guy
00:53:46He said
00:53:46The original
00:53:47Plan was
00:53:47For him
00:53:48To turn
00:53:48Heel
00:53:48Before
00:53:49He faced
00:53:49Rock
00:53:50The first
00:53:50Time
00:53:50So
00:53:51That would
00:53:51Have
00:53:51Been
00:53:51Wrestlemania
00:53:5128
00:53:52So
00:53:522012
00:53:54That would
00:53:55Have worked
00:53:55That would
00:53:56Like
00:53:56That way
00:53:56That might
00:53:57Have made
00:53:57A lot
00:53:57Of sense
00:53:58Then
00:53:58Speculation
00:54:01I guess
00:54:02You don't
00:54:02Know
00:54:03Right
00:54:03Hey man
00:54:04But if
00:54:05Anybody
00:54:05Could have
00:54:06Done it
00:54:06And maybe
00:54:07You are
00:54:08Correct
00:54:08With the
00:54:08Timeline
00:54:09With an
00:54:10Opponent
00:54:10Like the
00:54:10Rock
00:54:11Could have
00:54:12Possibly
00:54:13But
00:54:13But speculation
00:54:14In 1997
00:54:16When
00:54:16You broke
00:54:17Your neck
00:54:18Did you
00:54:18Think there
00:54:19Was any
00:54:19Coming back
00:54:19From that
00:54:20Or was
00:54:20There
00:54:20In your
00:54:22Mind
00:54:22Were you
00:54:23Thinking
00:54:23That's it
00:54:23I might
00:54:24Be done
00:54:25When I
00:54:26Got fused
00:54:26Up
00:54:27Had a
00:54:27Great
00:54:27Doctor
00:54:28San
00:54:28Antonio
00:54:28And I
00:54:29Was starting
00:54:30To kick
00:54:30Out a
00:54:30Little bit
00:54:31I had
00:54:31My collar
00:54:31Off
00:54:32And my
00:54:32Soft
00:54:33Collar
00:54:33Off
00:54:33And I
00:54:34Was riding
00:54:35Around
00:54:35On my
00:54:35Four-wheeler
00:54:36And I
00:54:36Had a
00:54:36Cooler
00:54:37On the
00:54:37Back
00:54:37Of my
00:54:37Four-wheeler
00:54:38I
00:54:38Was out
00:54:38There
00:54:38Just
00:54:38Drinking
00:54:39Beer
00:54:39Riding
00:54:39Around
00:54:39And my
00:54:40Phone
00:54:40Rings
00:54:40This
00:54:41Back
00:54:41In the
00:54:41Day
00:54:41We
00:54:41Had
00:54:41Those
00:54:42Star
00:54:42Trek
00:54:43Flip
00:54:43Phones
00:54:50What we
00:54:51Need
00:54:52To
00:54:52For
00:54:53Your
00:54:53Comeback
00:54:53And I
00:54:55Was
00:54:55Kind of
00:54:55Like
00:54:56Almost
00:54:56Offended
00:54:57Like
00:54:57Man
00:54:57Almost
00:54:58Got
00:54:58Paralyzed
00:54:59And you
00:54:59Are
00:54:59Asking
00:54:59Me
00:55:00To
00:55:00Get
00:55:02Ready
00:55:02To
00:55:02Come
00:55:02Back
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