00:00In a long line of like so many surreal experiences that I've had with this film,
00:03like that was one of the most surreal is like being on the phone listening to Nick Cave read lyrics.
00:10Lately I've been having dreams.
00:13Like a lot of serendipitous things that happen along the way,
00:17you know, Nick said to me that Train Dreams happened to be one of his favorite books
00:22and he immediately watched the film and I got this call from him while I was traveling
00:25saying that he loved the film and he'd already started thinking about a song.
00:29Crazy dreams are going for hours and I can't begin to tell you how that feels.
00:37It was basically like, look, you've done a wonderful job with this music.
00:40The film feels so complete as a piece. Can you send me something?
00:44A lot of the music I write is, we often call them, you know, songs without words.
00:47You know, the kind of emotional core would be like a song.
00:50It doesn't necessarily have a text with it.
00:52Throw bright lightning across the sky.
00:55Seen a man with a broken curse.
00:59We talked a lot about wanting to find a way to let the song be lyrically connected to the film
01:04and expand the frame of the film.
01:07And I think his poetry and his lyricism is just amazing.
01:10A woman standing in a field of flowers and screaming locomotive train.
01:16I had an idea of a piece that was kind of floating in time, the way the film is floating and cycling
01:22through time and bringing in, you know, there's essentially these sort of beats of piano and
01:28woodwinds and pizzicato strings that cycle through.
01:31And he immediately latched into it and wrote on it and developed more musical ideas with it.
01:37The space that connects me where I am now
01:40To the place where I'll one day be
01:43Is measured in the words that we speak
01:46And the strange and wondrous things I've seen
01:50It wasn't like he then saw the task as a chance to just do something separate.
01:56He wanted to, you know, connect with Bryce about the music he'd written
02:00That it wanted to sort of integrate it with the score
02:03Rather than just go, I'm going to do a separate thing and tuck it on to, you know, the end of the film.
02:08He called me and said, hey, I'm going to send this to you now.
02:10Can you listen?
02:11Where are you?
02:12And I listened and it was just a sort of, you know, heard essentially what you hear in the film
02:15And afterwards I called him and he's like, so do you like it?
02:18And it was just this kind of beautiful of Nick Cave asking me if I liked it.
02:21I was like, it's incredible.
02:22He's like, really?
02:22You think so?
02:23Should I change anything?
02:23Like, don't change a thing.
02:25I mean, and the moral of the story, all of it really is Australians are very reliable.
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