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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 Episode 56 -
Alan Cumming, Taylor Dearden
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00:00Tonight, Alan Cummings and Taylor Dierdick with the Cleetones.
00:06And now, Jimmy Kimmel.
00:10Give the light!
00:30Thank you for joining us here at our headquarters in beautiful Los Angeles, California.
00:40It is the one-year anniversary of the fires one year ago today.
00:44The fires that went on to devastate Altadena and the Pacific Palisades ignited.
00:48We remain grateful to the first responders who risked their lives to protect us,
00:52especially the firefighters who got out there.
00:55And, of course, that's right.
00:57We also are grateful to the real hero, our president, Donald Trump,
01:03who turned on that giant spigot to allow all the beautiful water to flow bigly and freely
01:08from his vivid imagination to save us from the fires only two weeks after they went out.
01:14Thank you, Mr. President.
01:18Maybe next you can turn that spigot to release the Epstein files.
01:21Wouldn't that be it?
01:27El Presidente is now on day five of his side job running Venezuela.
01:32And in case you were worried that this is some kind of a brazen money grab,
01:38Chevron Don would like you to know this.
01:40He wrote,
01:40I am pleased to announce that the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over
01:45between 30 and 50 million barrels of high-quality, sanctioned oil to the United States of America.
01:51This oil will be sold at its market price, and that money will be controlled by me.
01:56Signed, Diddy J. Trump.
01:58This, are we, oh, good.
02:04Don't worry, the oil money will be controlled by him.
02:06That way we know it will be spent honestly.
02:08And I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that oil companies spent almost half a billion dollars to get him elected.
02:15I'm sure if the windmill people had just asked, he would have invaded Holland instead.
02:19But Trump, and this is, I think, is interesting.
02:23He, Trump has been obsessed with Venezuela for a very long time and for, uh, an obvious reason.
02:30See if you can guess which country won the most Miss Universe titles after Trump bought that pageant in 1996.
02:38I'll give you a hint.
02:39It's not Tunisia.
02:40No.
02:41The winner is Venezuela, Venezuela, Venezuela, and Venezuela.
02:47There you go.
02:48Trump has personally crowned not one, but four Miss Universes from Venezuela.
02:54That last one, the one he's kissing, uh, yeah, her name is Alicia Machado.
02:57She was 19 when she won.
02:59And the reason she's on an exercise bike in that photo is because she committed the only unforgivable crime in the Trump universe.
03:06She gained weight while she was Miss Universe.
03:08She says he called her Miss Piggy.
03:11He called her Miss Housekeeper.
03:12All of which he denies, but he can't deny this.
03:15When she won it, she weighed about 118 pounds.
03:18I do like her.
03:18And actually, uh, from what I understand, a little bit heavier.
03:21But I will say, when she won the contest, I had never seen anybody more beautiful.
03:26And she's totally beautiful now.
03:27But I think come contest time, what are you talking about in terms of weight?
03:31Our goal is to get her between 125 and 130.
03:35She will look 118 to you.
03:37That's when I knew he would one day be president of the United States.
03:42You can see why Jeffrey Epstein liked them, right?
03:44I mean, they've got a lot of...
03:45What kind of a pageant has a weigh-in?
03:48Is she fighting Sugar Ray Leonard?
03:50Last night, you know, we showed a clip of Ramble Stiltskin yammering incoherently to Republicans in the House.
03:56And if you thought he sounded ridiculous in English, wait till you hear it on BBC Persia.
04:01I didn't know the Persian word for eh is eh.
04:14I mentioned last night that Trump says he's considering military action to acquire Greenland, if necessary, by force.
04:23Trump says we need it for national security reasons.
04:27Some Republicans are pushing back on this crazy idea, and none more forcefully than Mike Johnson, the squeaker of the House.
04:34So, yes, did you be careful with this about military action in Greenland?
04:38No, I don't think that's part of it.
04:40Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to my hollowed-out tree before the cookies burn.
04:44Thank you very much.
04:45He doesn't think it's appropriate to invade.
04:48And we all know how much Trump cares about being appropriate.
04:51Trump says he would prefer to buy Greenland, but if it's not for sale, we may just take it.
04:57And the dumbest part of all of it is we've had an agreement with Greenland and Denmark since 1951
05:03that says we could build military installations pretty much anywhere we want.
05:08The agreement allows us to construct, install, maintain, and operate military bases across the country.
05:13We can house personnel.
05:15We can operate ships, aircraft, et cetera.
05:17In other words, why would we invade the cow when we can get the ice milk for free?
05:22This business of strong-arming other countries, Greenland, Venezuela, is not very popular.
05:28He ran on the platform of staying out of other countries.
05:32They specifically said, he specifically said, they will not be a part of regime change.
05:37They don't want any part of that.
05:38And now that's exactly what they're doing.
05:40And so the White House has had to call in reinforcements to convince Magellan that this is a good thing.
05:46Senator Lindsey Graham has been leading that charge.
05:49He took a break from binge-watching Heated Rivalry to put on this dramatic show of support.
05:55There will be regime change in Venezuela through the ballot box.
05:59But who's in charge of Venezuela?
06:00Donald J. Trump.
06:01If you defy him, if you're one of the holdovers and you try to undercut him, what happened to Maduro is going to happen to you?
06:09The dictator, the thug is in jail in New York.
06:12Donald J. Trump, in my view, is the greatest president of all time.
06:17He's not going to date you, bro.
06:19He's got a wife.
06:21Who is this person?
06:22I mean, is that the same weird old lady who 10 short years ago said this?
06:27I want to talk to the Trump supporters for a minute.
06:29I don't know who you are, and I don't know why you like this guy.
06:33I think what you like about him, he appears to be strong when the rest of us are weak.
06:38He's a very successful businessman, and he's going to make everything great.
06:41He's going to take all the problems of the world and put them in a box and make your life better.
06:46That's what he's selling.
06:47Here's what you're buying.
06:49He's a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot.
06:53That's right.
06:54And that's what they like about him, you know?
06:57And now that seems to check every box on your Tinder profile, too.
07:01Lindsey Graham, he really has fallen in love.
07:03It reminds me of the movie How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, you know?
07:06They hated each other at first.
07:08Trump's Matthew McConaughey.
07:10Lindsey's Kate Hudson.
07:11And let me tell you, Kate is all fired up.
07:15To the Ayatollahs, you need to understand, if you keep killing your people who are demanding a better life, Donald J. Trump is going to kill you.
07:23That's right.
07:25And he won't stop killing you until he gets that Nobel Prize.
07:29What is happening?
07:31He's going to kill you.
07:32And maybe they're...
07:33You know what?
07:34Maybe they're trying...
07:36I know what they're doing.
07:37They're trying out a new slogan.
07:39Donald J. Trump is going to kill you.
07:41It's pretty good, right?
07:47This maniac...
07:48He isn't just killing people overseas.
07:51An ICE agent today shot and killed an unarmed 37-year-old woman during an ICE operation in Minneapolis.
07:58They're there under the guise of protecting us.
08:00And, of course, our president weighed in with compassion.
08:03He wrote,
08:04I've just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis.
08:07It is a horrible thing to watch.
08:08The woman screaming was obviously a professional agitator.
08:12And the woman driving the car...
08:13This is the woman who was killed.
08:15...was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting,
08:18who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE officer
08:23who seems to have shot her in self-defense.
08:25Now, I saw this video.
08:27It didn't look like anybody got run over to me.
08:29It looked to me like a woman got scared and tried to drive away, and they shot her.
08:34That'll be for the court to decide.
08:36The mayor of Minneapolis, though, had this to say.
08:39They are already trying to spin this as an action of self-defense.
08:45Having seen the video of myself, I want to tell everybody directly.
08:50That is bulls**t.
08:51This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying, getting killed.
09:02And I have a message for ICE.
09:06To ICE, get the f*** out of Minneapolis.
09:11You know, that is the shirt I want to see.
09:17To ICE, get the f*** out of Minneapolis.
09:20Now, in fairness, I also feel like I should mention the Trump administration did something
09:32good today.
09:33Kind of.
09:33They did something as close to good as they can possibly do.
09:39Our Secretary of Health and Human Services declared war on unhealthy processed foods.
09:45It's shocking that our own government helped to drive these cataclysmic changes in our diet.
09:51The damage is real, it is preventable, and President Trump has ordered it to end.
09:56He has?
09:57Are you sure he has?
10:00Because I, the Donald Trump that I know is the one who said this.
10:05Everyone loves something at McDonald's.
10:07There's always something to have.
10:10I like the fish.
10:12I like it.
10:15You could do a little bit more tartar sauce someplace.
10:18That's right.
10:19Just a little, just another dollop would be wonderful.
10:21Remember when Michelle Obama suggested we eat more vegetables or Republicans acted like
10:25she was the Babadook or something?
10:27Maybe he'll stop blowing up fishing boats if he tells them they're catching fillets.
10:32And then it was time for Dr. Oz, who that's right, he's in our government, to unveil our
10:38new and looser guidelines for drinking alcohol.
10:41So alcohol is a social lubricant that brings people together.
10:46In the best case scenario, I don't think you should drink alcohol, but it does allow people
10:50an excuse to bond and socialize, and there's probably nothing healthier than having a good
10:55time with friends in a safe way.
10:56There is alcohol on these dietary guidelines, but the implication is don't have it for breakfast.
11:04Don't have it for breakfast?
11:07What do you think about that, Guillermo?
11:08I don't know if you're paying attention, but Dr. Oz, Dr. Oz said go and have it for breakfast.
11:21What do you think about that?
11:22F*** that.
11:32Hold on.
11:33Be honest.
11:33How does that taste?
11:35Terrible.
11:38Our, um, our historically healthy president does not drink, and that is definitely a good
11:48thing, because he already has enough trouble staying awake.
11:51Teddy Docevelt told the Wall Street Journal that, you know those videos, many videos of
11:57him nodding off during meetings?
11:59He says he's not sleeping, he's blinking.
12:02That's right.
12:03He has the rare ability to hold a blink for minutes at a time, and to showcase that ability,
12:09we put together this video montage of, um, some of the many times he most definitely wasn't
12:16falling asleep on live TV.
12:18It's so, so quiet.
12:36It's so, so, so, so, so, so.
13:05From the big hit show, The Pit, Taylor Dearden is here.
13:09And from another big hit show, The Traders, Alan Cumming.
13:24All right, there.
13:25Welcome back to our show tonight.
13:27You know her as Dr. Melissa King from the big hit show, The Pit.
13:30Taylor Dearden is with us.
13:33Sorry about that.
13:34Tomorrow night, Dennis Leary and Rachel Maddow will join us.
13:37And we'll have music from the singing voices of K-pop Demon Hunters.
13:41Huntrix will be here.
13:42Have you watched the K-pop Demon Hunters game?
13:45No, I haven't watched it.
13:45Your son has not watched it?
13:47No, no.
13:48Do you know what it's about?
13:49It's about music?
13:50Killing something?
13:51I don't know.
13:52I don't know.
13:53I haven't watched it.
13:54Yeah, it's about Demon Hunters.
13:56Yeah, all right.
13:57So I was right.
13:58Some sidekick you are over there.
14:00Yeah.
14:01It was the beer, I think.
14:03Are you still on the beer?
14:04Yeah, that.
14:05Yeah, that's not going to feel good later.
14:07No.
14:08Our first guest tonight is a Tony and Emmy Award winning movie mutant and the host of
14:14the most popular game show set in a Scottish castle ever.
14:18Season four of The Traitors premieres tomorrow on Peacock.
14:21Please welcome Alan Cumming.
14:24How are you?
14:39You look great.
14:40This is a fantastic outfit you have here.
14:48Thanks, Jimmy.
14:49I'm actually jealous of this outfit.
14:50You are?
14:51Though I could never wear it.
14:52It wouldn't work.
14:53It would be unacceptable in my circles.
14:56But here it looks great.
14:57Sort of like your skyline.
14:58Yeah, you look like the night sky.
14:59You do.
15:00You're filled with stars.
15:01You're not the first gentleman to have said that, let me tell you.
15:03I'm wondering, I don't even know if you're aware of this.
15:07Well, I know you're aware of part of this.
15:09But first of all, I want to thank you for filling in for me and guest hosting the program
15:13over the summer, this summer, and last summer.
15:18So you filled in for one night here.
15:21And this, I think it was this morning we learned you were nominated for a GLAAD Award for hosting
15:27that show.
15:28I know.
15:32It's one for one.
15:33That's pretty solid.
15:35Right?
15:36I know.
15:36It was so lovely.
15:37Yeah.
15:37I wonder if, I wonder who will get to keep the trophy.
15:41Because you've got to check it out.
15:43Yeah, I feel like, you know, it's our show.
15:45We should have it, right?
15:48Yeah, it was me hosting that night.
15:50It was you hosting, and yet the name is still Jimmy Kimmel.
15:53Right, that's true.
15:54But the name on the desk that night was Alan Cummings.
15:57It was, it was.
15:59It's going to be interesting to see if you win.
16:01If maybe we can get two awards.
16:02If I win.
16:05If one of us or both of us win.
16:07If we win.
16:08Yeah.
16:09Maybe we could split it in half.
16:11What, chop it down the middle?
16:12Yeah.
16:13Maybe we could split it.
16:14That would be the Solomon-esque way to do that.
16:15Yeah, yeah.
16:16When you were here, you interviewed the cast of the Fantastic Four of the movie.
16:21Yes, yes.
16:22Which is the hardest thing to do, I think.
16:23Well, they were pretty jet-lagged.
16:26Oh, that too.
16:27Okay.
16:27Yes, they were cute, but they were a bit tired.
16:30Well, just even interviewing a group of people is like feeding pigeons.
16:33Well, there were sort of layers.
16:34There were sort of, you know, the...
16:36There are chairs behind.
16:38The things that have baseball team match.
16:41Yeah, rafters.
16:42And then you have to worry about people being left out.
16:45You want to make sure everyone gets a little bit of time.
16:48It's like herding cats.
16:49Yeah, it is.
16:49But it was, uh...
16:50But yes, they were...
16:51But they're poor things.
16:51It's like those press tours on those big films.
16:54You go around the world in a week, and then...
16:57So you arrive back here, and you're just...
16:59Oh, I nearly swore.
16:59You're just bamboozled.
17:02Yeah, we get them.
17:03Well, you know, because you are part of the new Avengers movie.
17:07I am.
17:07And that whole cast is part of the Avengers movie.
17:13Yes, all of them are in it, too.
17:16So you went right away and then shot with them there.
17:19Yeah.
17:20But what was funny was my first, um, um, scene with Pedro.
17:26He hurt his neck and had to go home.
17:28Really?
17:28I broke Pedro.
17:31Mr. Fantastic hurt his neck?
17:33I thought he was made out of rubber.
17:34That doesn't make any sense at all.
17:36Did you hurt his neck?
17:37It was just the damn time.
17:37Were you fighting with him at the time?
17:39No, I wasn't fighting.
17:40No, no.
17:41Mm-hmm.
17:42I was just sort of being.
17:43Were you fighting alongside him?
17:45I, uh...
17:46Are you trying to get me into trouble again?
17:47Yeah, yeah, I would like to know a little bit of something,
17:49what's going on in the movie.
17:50Yeah, no, no.
17:51It wasn't.
17:51We were just in...
17:52We were just together in a scene.
17:53Uh-huh.
17:54And I wasn't fighting, no.
17:55But...
17:55And also, he's got these big, long arms and everything.
17:58So it's quite complicated.
18:00And you've got the tail, though, right?
18:02I do have a tail.
18:03Yeah.
18:03But I didn't...
18:04But I didn't have my tail on at the time.
18:08Yeah, you didn't have your tail on at the time.
18:10Maybe if you had your tail on...
18:11And Federer didn't have his arms on.
18:13He wouldn't have broke his neck, you know?
18:16Do you comic book fans?
18:17He got cupped.
18:18Do you know that thing, the cupping?
18:19Yeah.
18:19He showed me a couple of nights later at the hotel.
18:22Have you had that happen?
18:23I haven't.
18:23And I sort of think I'm one of these people who should.
18:26I do enjoy, you know, an alternative therapy.
18:29But it looks like...
18:31Have you seen it when they do the big...
18:33I've had it done one time.
18:34And I had spots on my body for, like, a month or something.
18:37Yes.
18:38Yeah.
18:38There's big...
18:39It creates big suction spots.
18:40It goes all the way up like that.
18:42Yeah.
18:42Yeah, you're polka-dotted for, like, a while afterwards.
18:44Yeah, that's what...
18:45I mean, I'm all for it, but it's the aesthetic part of it.
18:48I don't think it does anything.
18:49I'll be honest with you.
18:50I think it's an excuse for the massage therapist to go take a break.
18:56Anyway, we're getting off track.
18:57Now that you're in this world, this Marvel, Sony, whatever world you're in, do you...
19:06Are people, like, chasing you around now for autographs and that sort of thing?
19:12Well, I mean, well, it's the thing I've noticed that's a new phenomenon in general.
19:18I just...
19:19Is that...
19:20Well, because I did Nightcrawler, you know, a long time ago.
19:22Mm-hmm.
19:23And, uh, but now there's these things called Funko Pops.
19:27Yes.
19:27Do you know them?
19:28Yeah.
19:28The little boxes with your sort of wobbly head.
19:31Bane of my f***ing...
19:33Oh, really?
19:34Really?
19:35That's the thing people want you to sign?
19:37Well, they have the...
19:38Yes, but it's not the actual box.
19:40They have it sort of flat, and there's, like, about 12 of them in a thing like this,
19:45and little vinyl things.
19:46And so you sign the little plastic thing that I guess they put into the box.
19:51I'm not quite sure.
19:51But it means that instead of just one photo in the old days, you know, as a photograph,
19:56you'd say...
19:56Yeah, right.
19:56...like 12 vinyl things, and...
19:59And you will stand there and do it and sign all of them?
20:01I mean, sometimes.
20:02Sometimes, yeah.
20:04But they're just...
20:04I just think, oh, they're bloody Funko Pops again.
20:08I just think it was...
20:10You know, I quite liked old photos because you're like, oh, there's me in a film.
20:13That film.
20:14Oh, there's me in this film.
20:15No, it's just a vinyl thing that's going to be attached to a box with a wobbly head of you.
20:21Yeah.
20:21And it's going right on eBay, right?
20:23Right, yes.
20:24Yeah.
20:25I mean, I'm all for comment.
20:26But, you know, where's the fun in it?
20:27What is the most unusual thing someone has asked you to sign?
20:32Well, once, years and years and years ago, I was making a film in...
20:36It's actually nearly 20 years ago.
20:37I did this film in Minnesota.
20:39And it's because it's about to be the 20th anniversary.
20:41It's called Sweet Land, in which I play a 1920s Minnesotan farmer and father of 10.
20:47I can butch it up when I have to, Jimmy.
20:49Yeah.
20:49And so I was there, and my wife was played by Alex Kingston.
20:54You know Alex, who used to be in ER?
20:56And she and I were there, and we were at this party, the midway through the film party.
21:02It was in this very rural place in Minnesota.
21:03And this lady said to us, oh, it must be very boring for you, you know, after your New York life to come here.
21:09And we were like, oh, no, we love it here.
21:11Tomorrow, we're driving an hour to go to Target, and then later, we may be going to a restaurant.
21:18And I heard myself say it.
21:19I thought, I've got to get out of here.
21:22And so next day, we drove the hour to the Target, and it was sort of, it really caused a bit of a scene.
21:28And this lady came up to me and went, I can't believe you're here.
21:31And I went, I can't either.
21:34And then this other lady said, would you sign this for my brother?
21:37I was like, yes, well, yes.
21:38And she signed the thing.
21:39I said, what is this?
21:40And she went, oh, it's the prescription for my brother's pink eye.
21:45I was like, oh!
21:48So I think that, that is definitely up there.
21:51I've signed a couple of boobs and a few, and a few bums in my life.
21:56You were just in Las Vegas, I understand.
21:58I was.
21:59You know, I grew up in Las Vegas.
22:00Yes.
22:01And so I'm interested in what, you're working on a play about Liberace.
22:05I'm directing, I run this theater now in Scotland, Pitlochery Festival Theater.
22:08And so this summer, it's the first year of my programmed work.
22:11And I'm directing a play about Liberace.
22:14So you made a pilgrimage to Las Vegas.
22:16Yes, because the, well, the Liberace Foundation are there, obviously.
22:21And they kind of, you know, you have to sort of get their blessing.
22:26Oh, you do, beforehand.
22:27So I went to this house that is where the Liberace collection is housed.
22:31I've got the pictures here now.
22:32Here it is.
22:33Here you are.
22:33Now, this, was this Liberace's house?
22:37No, it was a house.
22:38It's actually called Thriller Villa because it was Michael Jackson's house.
22:42Oh!
22:43So you come in, there's huge pictures of Michael Jackson and then Liberace's, it's showbiz.
22:47Wow.
22:48And then you go downstairs and there's all Liberace's things.
22:51It's amazing.
22:52Okay, so here we have, um...
22:54That's me, that's Jonathan, who's the man from the Liberace Foundation.
22:57He was asking me questions.
22:57And there's Lee on the shelf.
22:58There's me.
22:59There's you with one of...
23:00There's loads of these.
23:01Wow.
23:01Were they small or big?
23:02How big were the outfits?
23:03Did they seem small to you?
23:05No, actually.
23:06They seemed sort of, I mean, he didn't, I mean, well, they're a bit sort of floaty.
23:10Do you know what I mean?
23:11They're sort of like wearing a cape.
23:12Did you ever meet Liberace?
23:14I did not.
23:15Did you?
23:15I, yeah, kind of.
23:16It looks like I'm meeting him there, but I, oh, there's my dog.
23:19There's Lala.
23:20When I was 16, when I was 16 year old, here's another one.
23:24I was 16 years old, I was at the, oh, no, wait, that's Donald Trump.
23:27Sorry, I don't know how that got in there.
23:30When I was 16 years old, I was at the Mayfair Market, which is a supermarket on the Las Vegas
23:35Strip.
23:36Yeah.
23:36And I saw Liberace in the supermarket wearing a hairnet and buying meat.
23:43True story.
23:43Is that a euphemism?
23:44Nope.
23:45He was buying meat.
23:46That was literally, and then finally, we have.
23:50Oh, this is my favorite thing.
23:52It says, it's Liberace's cookbook.
23:54I don't have my specs on.
23:54I have to go click.
23:55It says what?
23:55Hundreds of delicious recipes for you from his seven dining rooms.
23:59That's right.
24:00That's why he had to go buy more meat.
24:02And look.
24:03He's cooking hundreds of delicious recipes.
24:06And look at the, the, the, the, the, the ex, the ex-Belere things are all pianos.
24:09Oh, that is beautiful.
24:11Amazing.
24:11He's unbelievable, Liberace.
24:13I, I'm, I, well, I'm, obviously I'm directing this place, so I'm kind of researching him a lot.
24:17But I'm really fascinated by him and just everything about him and just his legacy.
24:22And, you know, he was such a pioneer in many, many ways.
24:26He was.
24:26And his signature is, I believe we actually have, um, this is Liberace's, what he would sign.
24:31Now, imagine getting this on a Funko Pop.
24:34There would be no room.
24:35I mean, look at that.
24:36How great is that?
24:37That must be the best signature in the history of celebrities.
24:40That is tremendous.
24:42He commits.
24:42We're going to take a break.
24:43When we come back, we'll talk about your big hit show, The Traitors.
24:46Alan Cumming is here with us.
24:48All right, here we are back with Alan Cumming.
24:58He is the host of season four of The Traitors, which premieres tomorrow.
25:03Tomorrow.
25:03And people are absolutely, for those who haven't seen the show, explain the idea of the program.
25:08A lot of celebrities and reality stars go to a castle in Scotland where I play this person
25:15who's sort of this laird, you know, in crazy costumes, Lala, my dog's in it.
25:20And I make them do this psychological torture and make them fall into very cold lochs.
25:28And each night, there's three traitors are chosen.
25:30I tap them on the thing.
25:31And then they kill a person.
25:34Not literally, of course.
25:36And then also they banish a person.
25:38So it starts with quite a lot of people, but it goes down very quickly.
25:41And if The Traitors, it's actually great because you get to watch people being forced to lie.
25:49And also we know who the baddies are from the start.
25:51Right, yeah.
25:52It's sort of a sociological, psychological.
25:55Who do you have on the show this season?
25:57Oh, we have Lisa Rinna.
26:00Lisa Rinna?
26:01We have Dorinda.
26:04She got put out straight away last time.
26:07And so she's coming back.
26:08So you brought her back.
26:09Okay.
26:09Brought her back from the dead.
26:10And you have some real housewives.
26:13A lot of them.
26:14There's four real housewives this time.
26:16Portia.
26:17And we have...
26:18Oh, and the Kelsey mom.
26:19Travis and...
26:20Travis.
26:21Donna.
26:21She's a lady.
26:22Donna, yeah.
26:23Such a sweet lady.
26:24Yeah, that's funny.
26:25I really liked her.
26:25Did she enjoy her experience?
26:28I hope so.
26:30There's a really cute moment in the first episode when I asked them all and sort of interviewed
26:35them.
26:35And I said, how are you feeling, Donna?
26:38How are you feeling, Donna?
26:39And she went, a little weird.
26:43It's so cute.
26:44Were you at all intimidated by the idea of perhaps having to banish Taylor Swift's future
26:51mother-in-law from a...
26:53I mean, that could get you killed.
26:54Well, the thing is, a lot of the...
26:56I wasn't.
26:57But the contestants, the players, talk about it quite a lot.
27:01Right.
27:01Because they will feast on you.
27:03They will swarm on you.
27:04They will attack you.
27:05Yeah, they're starting to say, I'm a bit worried about the Swifties, what they'll do if
27:08we...
27:08So that's quite fun.
27:10It's another added layer of menace.
27:12Now, this outfit that we mentioned earlier would be a great outfit for you to wear tomorrow
27:16because you're getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame tomorrow.
27:19This is a fun thing, right?
27:24Pretty good.
27:25Yeah.
27:26It's like nuts.
27:28Do you know where the star will be located?
27:30I do.
27:31I know who I'm next to.
27:32I'm next to Tab Hunter, Humphrey Bogart, Steve Irwin.
27:38Crikey!
27:39That's a great crook.
27:40And Johnny Cash.
27:43Oh, Johnny Cash.
27:44Wow.
27:45That's a pretty good corner to be on.
27:47Yeah.
27:47I think it's on Hollywood and Vine.
27:49I'm not quite sure.
27:51But I thought...
27:52I didn't...
27:52You don't get to choose.
27:53You know, it's just the luck and the draw.
27:54Yeah, they put you where they want to put you.
27:55I just...
27:56I actually had a sort of weird fantasy that I wanted to be in the kind of skankiest kind
28:01of...
28:01You're not far off.
28:04That might be the most famous intersection in...
28:07At least in the country.
28:08I don't know, right?
28:09Hollywood and Vine.
28:09Yes.
28:10Yeah, Hollywood and Vine.
28:11It's a good place to be.
28:11Well, yeah.
28:12Until you find somebody sleeping on you.
28:14Right.
28:14Yeah.
28:15Or, like, dogs will pee on me.
28:17So for those who don't know how it works, a crowd will gather.
28:20Your fans will come to see it happen.
28:22And then you have a couple of people that you choose to speak.
28:25And who do you have speaking for you, Tabal?
28:27I have speaking for me Monica Lewinsky and Brian Cox.
28:29Now, that is a very...
28:31Together at last.
28:33Interesting and seemingly very random...
28:35Yes.
28:38Brian Cox, of course, was Logan Roy on Succession.
28:41He's this great actor.
28:42He directed you in a film?
28:44He directed me in a film, which actually I'm going to...
28:46On Sunday, it's closing the Palm Springs Film Festival called Glenrothan.
28:49So we played brothers in it and he directed it.
28:51And I've known him for centuries.
28:53You have.
28:53He seems absolutely great.
28:55He's a darling.
28:56He's a real hoot.
28:57And how do you know Monica Lewinsky?
28:59I know Monica because we met at a party years and years ago, like, you know, quite sort
29:05of early on in her being known.
29:08And there was a party that she was invited to.
29:12And we just got on, like, a house on fire.
29:14And it was just...
29:14It was crazy.
29:15Like, it was the days when, you know, it was like leaving the party with Elvis.
29:20It was just people were like, ah!
29:21And so I've seen her, you know, over the years be kind of reclusive and try and sort of find
29:28her way and then have this incredible resurgence and become this amazing, you know, powerhouse
29:33woman and be so successful.
29:35And it's a really beautiful thing.
29:36And when you look, I'll be honest, I looked at the piece of paper that said, I was talking
29:42about the star, and it said, Cox, Lewinsky, and Cumming on the...
29:47And I thought maybe, knowing you, because I remember your cologne, I thought maybe you
29:54did that on purpose.
29:55Is that not...
29:56No, I just can't help it.
29:59Yeah, my...
30:00I used to have this fragrance, and it was called Cumming.
30:03Right, I remember that.
30:04And I had...
30:05And the body lotion was called Cumming All Over.
30:09And my favorite thing, I still have these, because it's a long time ago, but...
30:13Is that the soap was called Cumming in a Bar.
30:17Well, you are going to fit in very well on Hollywood Involvement.
30:23It's great to have you here.
30:25Thanks, Jimmy.
30:25Thank you for being here.
30:26Season four of The Traitors premieres on Peacock tomorrow.
30:30Alan Cumming, everybody.
30:31We'll be right back with Taylor Dierman.
30:33Tomorrow on Jimmy Kimmel Live, Dennis Leary, Rachel Maddow, plus music from EJ, Audrey Nuna,
30:46and Ray Avi, the singing voices of Huntrix from K-pop Demon Hunters.
30:51Join us next week with guests Michael B. Jordan, Noah Wiley, Johnny Knoxville, and Chris Pratt.
30:57Welcome back to the show.
31:07Our next guest landed on one of the better lists to come out in 2025.
31:11Time Magazine's Best TV Characters of the Year.
31:14She plays Dr. Melissa King on the Emmy Award-winning series The Pit.
31:18What's going on with you?
31:20You usually ride in here on your unicorn tossing wildflowers.
31:24Unicorn?
31:24Never mind.
31:26Is everything okay with your sister?
31:29Oh, yeah, she's great.
31:31It's just this...
31:33Spill, girl.
31:37Um, well, a couple of months ago I got named in a malpractice lawsuit.
31:43And so, uh, today is the deposition.
31:48Season two of The Pit premieres tomorrow on HBO Max.
31:52Please welcome Taylor Dearden.
32:08Welcome, welcome.
32:11You're all sparkly, too.
32:12I'm sparkly, too.
32:13Sparkle night.
32:14I think we're kind of matching almost a little bit.
32:16This is kind of weird, right?
32:17Really trippy, yeah.
32:18How long have I known you?
32:20How old were you when we met, would you say?
32:23Maybe nine?
32:24Maybe nine, yeah, something like that.
32:25I know your mom and dad, and you went to high school with my son, Kevin.
32:28Yeah, and we played baseball together when we were younger.
32:30You guys were on a Little League team together that your dad was the coach of?
32:33That's right.
32:34You had the ponytail sticking out the back.
32:36Always, yeah.
32:36And, um, yeah, and you, when you guys were in, my son, Kevin, he was in the plays with
32:42you, and you guys were at the high school plays and all that, and you were always really
32:46great in those plays.
32:47And then it turned out that you were an actor.
32:52It's crazy, right?
32:53It's weird how that worked, really, I guess so.
32:56And also, I should mention, you worked here for a summer, right?
32:59I did.
33:00I was a PA between my junior and senior year of college.
33:03Yeah, PA is a production.
33:04So what were your jobs?
33:05Explain what your jobs were as the PA.
33:07Like, runner, essentially.
33:08Yeah.
33:08And also, um, for anything on the street, we had to try and gather people to do the answers
33:14and stuff.
33:14Right, when we tricked people into saying stupid things.
33:16Yeah, exactly.
33:17Yeah, right.
33:17So you had to go out there and go get those people?
33:19Yeah.
33:20Yeah, and that's no fun at all, is it?
33:22So it's so hot, yeah.
33:23Did that make you think that maybe this wasn't a great job, a great business to go into?
33:29No, it felt very like, yeah, I've got to earn it somehow.
33:32I see.
33:33I see.
33:34And it was a good experience overall, would you say?
33:36Absolutely, yeah.
33:37No incidents, no problems, nothing like that?
33:39No, just Guillermo always tried to make us drink with him.
33:46Is that true, Guillermo?
33:47I don't remember you.
33:49Because you were drunk is why you don't remember that.
33:54Wow, that's, uh, and so now, um, oh, and you guys just got nominated for, what they call
33:59it, the Actor Award.
34:00It used to be called the SAG Award.
34:01Yeah.
34:01And you got nominated for Best Ensemble Cast, would you like that?
34:07And, um, and congratulations on that.
34:11Do you get approached now by doctors everywhere you go?
34:15Um, not as, not approached as much as I, we do get, like, um, emails or Instagram messages
34:21and stuff.
34:22It's pretty incredible.
34:23Yeah.
34:23Yeah.
34:24Do you find that if you wear glass, you don't wear glasses typically, right?
34:28Yeah, it's glasses and it's the braid, really.
34:31If I don't have the braid, it's, it's hard.
34:33I'm, like, the only one that doesn't get recognized all the time.
34:36Yeah, it's weird.
34:37It's because it's like Superman in a lot of ways.
34:38Yeah, oh, it's great.
34:39Right?
34:39Yeah.
34:39Full on Clark Kent, but reversed.
34:41Um, and so, um, when you're, when you are approached by a doctor who does recognize you
34:47or whatever, do they want to talk about the show and how realistic it is and all that kind
34:51of stuff?
34:52Yeah, there'll be all sorts of things that, um, have come up that have been wonderful about,
34:57like, how they can finally talk to their families about what they do or specific diagnoses.
35:03Really?
35:03Yeah.
35:03People who are doctors don't talk to their, their families don't want to know what's
35:08going on?
35:09Yeah, they, they don't want to burden them with, like, how hard their day could be.
35:13And, uh, a doctor reached out from New Mexico who said that for the first time, his family
35:18gets what a hard day means for him.
35:21And they're able to talk about it.
35:22Wow, that's pretty great.
35:24Pretty cool.
35:25Wow.
35:25Because I find it interesting, too.
35:30Because when I go home, I do nothing but complain.
35:33It's like, my family is well aware of any little, anything that bothers me during the
35:38day is recounted in full.
35:40Yeah, I feel like, I feel like their families used to hear just, like, weird butt stuff.
35:44But after that, you know, it's, like, good stuff, too.
35:47Yeah.
35:47It is true.
35:48When you meet a doctor, it's like, you almost have to stop yourself from, because, you know,
35:52like, you want to get to, like, the third question will be, so what's the weirdest
35:56thing you've seen on somebody's butt?
35:57Yeah.
35:58That's actually a note a doctor gave one of the writers was, you don't have nearly
36:02enough butt stuff on the show.
36:03Really?
36:05All right.
36:06Yeah.
36:06Oh, so that's driving the medical industry in a lot of ways.
36:08Yeah, it's a lot.
36:09So people should keep putting things in their butts.
36:12Yeah, yeah.
36:12The weirder, the better.
36:13Well, future.
36:14Have you had a situation where you have had to act, had to call upon your, what you've
36:20learned on a medical show to help somebody?
36:25Yeah.
36:26I mean, I think a lot of it is, you know, I'll run towards something, and I don't really
36:33know why I have run towards them.
36:35Like, what kind of thing?
36:36I feel like, actually, recently, there was a guy choking in a restaurant, and I just
36:41sprinted right to him, and I just stood there and kind of went, I'm an actor.
36:46I don't think I, I shouldn't touch him.
36:49Line.
36:49I'm so sorry.
36:51Like, sorry, the doctor didn't teach me yet, so I gotta, I don't know.
36:55So did he die?
36:56How did that end?
36:58Yeah, it was a shame.
36:58Did he perish?
36:58It was a real shame.
36:59Have you had any, like, did they give you any real training?
37:02Have you had any real training?
37:03Yeah.
37:04We do a boot camp every year, and this year was more of a refresher boot camp, kind
37:09of going through the procedures we'll be going through.
37:12Uh-huh.
37:13And I actually had some training before, too, which is random.
37:17You mean in real life training or acting training?
37:19Yeah, real life, but a long, long time ago, I went to this weird camp that was...
37:27You went to wound camp?
37:29I went to wound camp.
37:30I went to Owieville.
37:31Um, and it was, it was this bizarre camp in eighth grade where we pretended to be EMTs and
37:39were trained and did unbelievably ridiculous things.
37:43And the hook was, because, like, I'm going to tell you something, and it may make you
37:47mad.
37:47I sent my son Kevin a space camp.
37:51He didn't go to people or bleeding camp.
37:52I'd love, I'd love to see Kevin fit in any of those spaces.
37:56He's big, yeah.
37:56No, he was smaller back then.
37:58He was much smaller, but yeah.
38:00So, you mean, you went to, who sent you to this?
38:03It was, it was my school, my middle school.
38:05It was mandatory.
38:06And, um, we got trained in the gym and we, no one was really told us what this camp was.
38:13And then we went away to this camp and, uh, I remember the first trauma.
38:18Um, we were at lunch and we noticed, like, one of the people from my group, Ben, Ben Anderson,
38:23actually, um, was missing.
38:26And we were just kind of like, what's going on?
38:27And we were given radios.
38:29And then we just hear, like, and it's like, there's a kid who's been mauled.
38:34He's beyond a fence.
38:36Some, some, uh, some mountain lions got to him, run.
38:40And we're just like, oh my God.
38:42And we just grab our gear and like our backboard and we just kind of run.
38:46And we find Ben, who is, by the way, a Broadway actor now.
38:50Uh-huh.
38:51Um, and he has full on, like, prosthetic makeup.
38:57His guts are out.
39:00We're, by the way, we're 13 years old.
39:02Um, we're all brace-faced with acne and just the odor is just, it's bad.
39:08And he's screaming.
39:10Again, Broadway.
39:12Um, and we just have to go underneath this fence and, like, army crawl to grab him, pull him
39:20through and then treat him.
39:22And it was so scarring immediately.
39:25And, and every single day and every meal would have a new trauma afterwards.
39:31What kind of a crazy campus?
39:33I...
39:34Did you make s'mores?
39:37Uh, no.
39:38No?
39:38Well, I mean, there was fire, but not for s'mores.
39:42Really?
39:42They had fire?
39:43They had fire.
39:44What kind of fire happened?
39:45Well, everything got bigger and bigger and worse and worse.
39:49And then the, the final, the final one was we were at dinner and more than half of the
39:57students and teachers were gone.
39:59And we all just kind of looked at each other like, oh, no.
40:03I don't, I don't want to do this.
40:06And we all went back to our bunks and it was like 1130 at night and we hear it through radio
40:11and they put so much production value in this.
40:14I, I'm from LA, so.
40:15Yeah, right.
40:16And they, uh, said there was a plane crash.
40:19And we're like, I don't think there was, um, but we all had to just, we kind of sprinted
40:33through this campground and I'm not kidding.
40:37They had like the fuselage.
40:39They had an entire wing.
40:41They had real seats and like the cabin and also a ring of fire around it.
40:49But it was just like two Duraflames and then like six feet and then two Duraflames and
40:54six feet.
40:54So we could just walk around.
40:57Um, but it was the most intense thing ever.
41:00Our principal was in a tree with a pole through her.
41:05And it was just, it was bizarre.
41:08Do you feel like you learn anything that will be useful in your later life at that camp?
41:12Crippling anxiety.
41:13Yeah.
41:14Um, yeah.
41:16And no more camp.
41:18Well, it paid off.
41:19Like, kind of, I guess, a little bit.
41:22Maybe.
41:22I guess it kind of worked, yeah.
41:23Well, season two of The Pit premieres tomorrow night on HBO Max.
41:27Taylor Dearden, everybody.
41:28Thank you, Taylor.
41:29Have a great night.
41:36Thanks to Alan Cumming and Taylor Dearden.
41:38Apologies to Matt Damon.
41:39Ran out of time for him.
41:40Nightline is next.
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