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00:00Hello and welcome to the start of your Wednesday evening live on The One Show with Gethin Jones and Angelica Bell.
00:08And tonight's show is guaranteed to help banish the January blues as we bring you comedy stars Dawn French and Marquise some inspirational tips to kickstart your new year.
00:18And Matt is back fighting for your consumer rights in the first watchdog of 2026.
00:23Yes, Storm Garetti is on its way so you may now be thinking about a summer escape to somewhere warmer.
00:31Millions are booking holidays this month so I'll be telling you about some customers left high and dry after things went wrong with a holiday rentals platform.
00:39Plus the company using people's personal details without their consent.
00:45Great, lots of fantastic advice to come.
00:48And as we mentioned we'll be joined by two sitcom superstars best known for their hilarious performances in The Vicar of Dibley and Friday Night Dinner.
00:56And now Dawn French and Marquise have teamed up to play husband and wife in Can You Keep a Secret?
01:01It's a new BBC comedy airing tonight about a retired couple who get caught up in a world of crime.
01:08The secret is out tonight.
01:09And if there's one man who'd uncovered them in a heartbeat, it's crime-fighting clergyman Father Brown ahead of the new series which returns this week.
01:18We head behind the scenes to find out how the drama is being brought to life with the help of the community in Blockley.
01:24Also coming up, he's interviewed some of the world's most successful people from Matthew McConaughey to Serena Wiegman.
01:31And now broadcaster and best-selling author Jake Humphrey is using his insight to share how their small everyday habits could help transform your life.
01:38And they're not as hard as you think.
01:40One man always making a difference to people's lives is Matt.
01:43He is here with Watchdog and he's starting with a story that will be of interest to millions of people.
01:49Thanks, Geoff.
01:50Yeah, after years of having been missold car finance, many drivers across the UK could be due compensation now.
01:58But if you're thinking that's got nothing to do with me, think again.
02:01Because we're hearing from some viewers whose personal details are being used by a claims company, whether they've made a claim or not.
02:12Imagine being shown a signed contract with your name on it that you've never seen before.
02:19That's exactly what's happened with some drivers who've been sent contracts by Consultation Claims,
02:25a company that promises to represent motorists in claims for missold car finance.
02:31But those we've spoken to say not only have they not provided the signatures in these documents,
02:36but they've never even spoken to the company before.
02:39In October, Mike from Northern Ireland got a contract and this email thanking him for signing up with Consultation Claims.
02:49They had all my details, date of birth, my phone number, my address, everything,
02:55and said that I'd actually electronically signed these documents, which I've never seen before.
03:02How did you respond to that?
03:03I started to think, where the hell have we got all this information from?
03:06What's more, there's one simple reason why Mike's not eligible for any car finance compensation.
03:13I've never had a car on finance. Why would I sign up to anything like that?
03:16Despite never having car finance, Mike could still be out of pocket.
03:21That's because a termination fee applies if the contract is cancelled 14 days after it was signed.
03:28A fee of £166 for every hour the company works on it to sort it out.
03:35Look, they want to charge for you to cancel it.
03:38How can you prove it if they've got these documents that say, you've signed this, you've signed that?
03:43There's something not right here.
03:46Unlike Mike, Jane from Bristol has had car finance and is making a claim directly through BMW.
03:53Despite that, a contract arrived, complete with the signature that was not Jane's.
03:58The contract entitled Consultation Claims to take up to 30% of her payout.
04:05I have absolutely never signed anything. Why should I give them my money?
04:11Online reviewers of the company say they too have had claims submitted without permission, using documents they've never signed.
04:19So, we took a closer look at the paperwork.
04:22In the contracts that Consultation Claims provide, they include an IP address, your IP address.
04:30Effectively, what they're saying is, this must be your signature because it came from you.
04:37But cyber security expert Graham Stewart says the IP address numbers provided aren't adding up.
04:43We looked at those IP addresses and they don't relate to anything to do with either the email address or the device.
04:50So, these numbers, you feel, have been randomly generated?
04:54Yep.
04:55That means that they mean nothing?
04:57Correct. From a technical point of view, absolute nonsense.
05:01With IP addresses we can't ID and unrecognisable signatures on documents people have never seen, these contracts lack credibility.
05:11But legal expert Denise Nurse told us that people could be legally bound to these contracts if those named in them don't challenge them.
05:19So, they're not to be taken lightly.
05:22I mean, the temptation is just to rip it up and ignore it.
05:25I totally understand the temptation.
05:27However, the right thing to do to protect you is to take action.
05:31So, first of all, contact the company and say, I don't know anything about this.
05:36Please, can you confirm that this is not me and cancel it?
05:40I would secondly contact the relevant authorities because if your signature is being purported onto a legal document, then that is very serious.
05:50Our case studies believe that this is what's been happening.
05:54If someone falsifies a document with the intent of misrepresenting something, we're straying into something that's unlawful activity and can have very serious consequences for the perpetrators.
06:06Consultation claims said that after an investigation, it found the issues had been caused by the actions of another company that supplied it with customer information.
06:17The claims company apologised to customers affected and said it was taking steps to put things right and prevent it from happening again.
06:25Consultation claims, you promised to get money back for people who are owed it, but many of the people we've spoken to say they never got in touch with you in the first place.
06:36So, here's a promise for you.
06:39Unless you start doing this thing right, we won't let it lie.
06:44Do you know what? It's really scary to think you can be signed up to something without your knowledge.
06:47I know, right?
06:48There is some very good news for Mike and Jane.
06:51Since we wrote to consultation claims, both have received £150 in compensation and, most important, the firm will not be contacting them again.
07:00That's the first Watchdog winner of the year, everyone.
07:05We can guarantee plenty more in 2026.
07:08If you've got a problem and you'd like us to investigate, email watchdog at bbc.co.uk or tag us at BBC Watchdog on the socials.
07:15Now, as I said, Storm Goretti is on the way.
07:19So, it's no wonder that January is one of the busiest times for holiday bookings for so many people.
07:24It's the thing that you get booked in so that you have something to look forward to for half of the year.
07:30Isn't that right, Gary?
07:30Well, yeah, it's a bit gloomy this month, isn't it?
07:32Just a bit.
07:33You're just thinking about the sun the whole time.
07:34And like you say, something to look forward to.
07:36Yeah, we've just got to get through it.
07:38Well, there's one company which offers plenty of private holiday homes, claiming to be the perfect choice for a getaway.
07:45And that company is Vrbo, a company we've mentioned before here on Watchdog.
07:49As you can see by its glossy advert, it's a marketplace for beautiful rental properties.
07:54And to give customers peace of mind, the platform offers VrboCare, a promise to be on call if things go wrong.
08:01But when some customers discovered their holiday homes weren't legit, they told us this support was nowhere to be seen.
08:09Angelica, tell us what happened to Hannah and her mates.
08:12OK, Hannah and her friend Gavin found a property to rent in Greece on Vrbo costing €3,650.
08:18Now, the host sent an invoice via Vrbo's messenger service and Gavin transferred the money to the named account.
08:24But just eight days before they were due to stay and already on the first leg of their holiday,
08:28the group received a message from Vrbo stating the property was falsely represented and had to be removed from the site.
08:36I mean, you'd be totally gutted after that.
08:38Yeah, absolutely. And here's the absolute shocker.
08:40Gavin then received an email saying that because the payment wasn't processed through Vrbo's official payment page on the website,
08:47the group wasn't eligible for a refund.
08:50Gutted doesn't even cover it.
08:52Holiday ruined, lost a lot of money.
08:55And subsequently, the support from Vrbo has been shocking.
09:02We would never book with them again. It was absolutely awful.
09:05Yeah, you can tell they're incredibly upset.
09:07And the thing is, the invoice came through the Vrbo messenger, so you might think you're in the actual platform.
09:13Yeah, you would think that's where the payment was.
09:15That's what Gavin thought, certainly.
09:17And have a look at the invoice. It's really convincing.
09:19Looks like it comes from Vrbo, but unfortunately for Gavin, it was a fraudulent invoice.
09:25Vrbo told us payments should be made directly through Vrbo.com.
09:30Because this payment was made outside of the platform, directly to the host, they say they're not covered by Vrbo Care.
09:36Gutt, tell us about Russell and Joanne from York.
09:38Russell and Joanne from York booked a house in Sydney for a family trip through Vrbo.
09:44They paid a deposit of £1,800 to the hosts.
09:46A couple of months before the trip, Joanne could no longer see the listing on Vrbo and was finally told by the host that the booking was in fact cancelled.
09:53When she asked Vrbo about a refund, it told her to contact the host and then her credit card provider.
09:59Joanne says no further support was offered and at no point did Vrbo inform her the listing had been removed.
10:04So a close call for Joanne there. I mean, there's a chance that she and the family could have gone the other side of the world to Australia and found the accommodation wasn't there.
10:13The big question is here, did she get her money back?
10:16Well, luckily for Joanne and Russell, the bank refunded them personally.
10:20I'd want it the other way around. Vrbo sorts it, failing that.
10:24The credit card or your charge card, if it's a debit card, charge back then, is your backup.
10:30Since we got involved, I'm pleased to say Vrbo has reimbursed Hannah and Gavin and their mates the €3,650.
10:39Vrbo told us it's sorry. It takes fraud seriously, it says, and continues to invest in technology to eliminate fraudulent activity.
10:47The good news is both property hosts have now been suspended from the platform.
10:51If you are using Vrbo, this is the lesson, or any other booking platforms, don't be tempted away to pay from the site.
10:59Otherwise, you may not be covered in the case of fraud. And always pay on a credit card, if you can.
11:04Bit of protection.
11:05Yeah. Great result, Matt. Thank you so much. Flying start to the year.
11:09Selves come tonight. Broadcaster Jake Humphrey will be telling us what he's learned from interviewing some of the world's most inspiring people.
11:16But first, we're speaking to comedy stars Dawn French and Mark Heave about their thrilling new BBC sitcom,
11:22which starts tonight and follows the story of a man called William.
11:25Through a bizarre turn of events, he is mistakenly declared dead, but he's actually just hiding in the loft.
11:31A mishap that sparks a comedy of errors that soon sends him tumbling into a life of crime.
11:38Now, before we welcome Dawn and Mark, let's take a look.
11:40And joining us now is Mark Heave and Dawn French.
12:09Dawn and Mark, we love it. It's brilliant.
12:16It's very funny.
12:17It's a sitcom with a bit of thriller thrown in there.
12:19And you both play a husband and wife, Debbie and William.
12:22So tell us about how you've come together and have got into this dodgy situation.
12:29Well, you know, this is a very oddball family and they find themselves in the middle of this terrible sort of fraud.
12:38They don't set out to find it, actually.
12:40It happens to them.
12:42His character is declared dead by a very incompetent doctor and then an incompetent funeral director.
12:49And so it just so happens that it would suit them to claim the insurance.
12:53Now, we know this is morally wrong, isn't it?
12:55It is morally wrong.
12:56It is morally wrong, but it suits their purposes.
12:59And also this character, his character, William, has Parkinson's.
13:04And our writer's dad has Parkinson's.
13:07And so, you know, I didn't know that you sort of get shafted, really, by insurance companies when you have Parkinson's.
13:15And so she, I think my character, Debbie, feels that this is retribution, really, and that it's justice that they can claim this money.
13:23Although, of course, it's wrong.
13:25I know, but you really want them to have the money, in a way.
13:28It's so bizarre.
13:29It's like the Corleoneism thing.
13:32You find yourself watching Telly, watching Breaking Bad, the main guy.
13:35You think, oh, this is what he's doing.
13:37But you think, oh, come on, I hope, you know, you kind of end up rooting.
13:40It gets worse and worse, though, from the family dynamic point.
13:42You've got Craig Roberts and Mandip Gill, who are playing your son and daughter-in-law.
13:46Then all of a sudden they're involved, and then it's the most extraordinary family dynamic.
13:51Yeah, it is.
13:53I mean, they, both of them are brilliant, by the way.
13:56And Craig, especially, is very good at playing such an anxious person.
14:02He's all bottled up, and he just wants to say, shut up!
14:05You know, he's like, he does it brilliantly, I should say.
14:07I think Debbie is a bit of an agent of chaos, actually, and brings everybody into this swamp of chaos with her, including William, who is quite resigned to it, actually.
14:18And she does make the point to you at the beginning that nobody would really miss you.
14:23No.
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14:24That's a sign of a good marriage.
14:26He's been with him for a while.
14:28Oh, he's just indoors.
14:29Now, you've already mentioned the writer, and I've drawn the series of created by Simon Mayhew-Archer, who also wrote the BAFTA award-winning This Country.
14:37But it was his dad, Paul, who co-wrote The Vicar of Dibley, who convinced you to do a sitcom, because you said you would never do a sitcom.
14:44No way!
14:45Yeah.
14:45You said, no, never again!
14:46I said it would be very unlikely, because, you know, good sitcoms are rare, aren't they?
14:51And, you know, I've been lucky enough to do a good one, and I've been involved with Jennifer's sitcom as well, you know, and I just thought, oh, well, that won't happen again.
14:59And, um...
14:59And Paul bullied me, frankly.
15:02I mean, he...
15:03I said convinced.
15:04I said convinced you said bullied.
15:06Yes, yes.
15:06OK, yes.
15:07No, it's definitely bullied.
15:08OK, fine.
15:08And he sent me an email and he said, look, you know, I know I'm supposed to go via your agent and all of that, but I'm old now and I've got Parkinson's and you should read this.
15:17And it's my son who's written that, and I had met his son many years before, and he said, and this is the first time he's written a sitcom, he's produced them before.
15:26But, um, I thought, oh, no, now I'm going to have to read this, I'm going to have to make that embarrassing sort of phone call with the notes that explain why I gently, carefully, diplomatically can't do it.
15:39And then I read it and it's really good.
15:40And I thought, oh, damn.
15:41I can't see you doing that.
15:42You're just going, nah.
15:44Nah.
15:44No, thanks.
15:45No, I can be kind.
15:46I'm not kind to you, ever.
15:47But I can be.
15:49That works in the sitcom.
15:50You touched there on Paul and his Parkinson's diagnosis.
15:54He's been very open about it.
15:55And William, your character, lives with the conditions.
15:59Yeah.
15:59But you play it with so much humour and so much heart.
16:03Paul Mayhew-Archer does himself, and between them, they're almost like a comedy double act about Parkinson's.
16:09And so a lot of what I'm doing is what is the writer's view of his dad and having to deal with his dad.
16:16And they, between them, are quite extraordinarily good-humoured about it.
16:21They don't sugarcoat it at all.
16:22They're quite savage with each other.
16:24Really savage.
16:25About it.
16:25And Paul, you know, has made light of it.
16:28He's taken shows to Edinburgh.
16:30He does a podcast about Parkinson's.
16:32He's the most cheerful person with Parkinson's you could ever hope to meet.
16:36He's very realistic about it.
16:38But I think Simon is writing about his own family's experience.
16:42And, you know, they cut through the nonsense, really.
16:45I mean, it's not a documentary about Parkinson's by any stretch.
16:48It's just incidental that he's got Parkinson's, quite early-onset Parkinson's,
16:51so it's not the really, really nasty stuff.
16:55But he doesn't show away from it.
16:56And as a character, it's great because, you know, you use that for your own ends.
16:59You put a bit of self...
17:00Oh, I can't do that because of my Parkinson's, all right, you know.
17:03It's a bit of pity.
17:04Yeah, and we had sort of permission, really.
17:06Permission to do that, yeah.
17:07It's in the script, anyway, so...
17:09Yeah.
17:10You kind of have to.
17:11You can't go, no, I'm not doing that.
17:13I mean, I think Simon has written about both of his parents, to be honest.
17:17Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:17And a lot of this show is about the son, Harry, that Craig plays,
17:23who really is sort of Simon,
17:25who is trapped in a sandwich between two mad parents
17:30who are sort of incompetent, incontinent people...
17:33Literally, yeah.
17:34..two children that are also incompetent and incontinent.
17:38He's in a sort of mad sandwich,
17:40and he's very anxious about all of it.
17:44And so that's really where the heart of it is.
17:47Well, you're selling it.
17:48We've been told to read hours, haven't we?
17:49Yeah, let's get on with it.
17:50Oh, OK.
17:51Do you want to mark the sitcom?
17:52Can You Keep A Secret?
17:53Starts tonight at 9.30 here on BBC One and iPlayer
17:56when all the episodes will be available.
17:58It is brilliant.
17:59Can you keep a secret?
18:00Oh, you can trust me.
18:01I'm no traitor.
18:02Oh, I said tonight as well.
18:04Got traitors on before you.
18:06What a line-up on BBC One.
18:07But before all of that,
18:08still to come on The One Show tonight,
18:10Jake Humphrey will be sharing the secrets
18:12to stick into your New Year resolutions
18:14as he tells us how small everyday habits
18:17can make big changes.
18:18But first, this next film may take Dawn back
18:21to her bicker of dibley days
18:22as we've been given an exclusive behind-the-scenes look
18:25at Father Brown ahead of its return this week.
18:27Yes, Mark Williams reveals how the show's magic
18:29is created from the music right down
18:31to the smallest prop
18:32as the local community help bring the drama to life.
18:35Every summer, a film crew sets up camp
18:40in the Cotswolds village of Blockley.
18:43Action!
18:44Welcome to Kembleford.
18:46It's the fictional setting for the BBC detective series
18:49Father Brown, starring Mark Williams.
18:52Good morning, Chief Inspector.
18:54How can we help?
18:56Loosely based on a series of books by G.K. Chesterton,
18:59this is the 13th year the village has opened its doors
19:02and its church to the priest
19:04with an uncanny knack for solving crimes.
19:07That's St Mary's in our stories,
19:10but he's actually St Peter and Paul.
19:13And I'm not the real vicar.
19:15Canon de Lapp is the incumbent here.
19:19It's a real buzz to have them here.
19:22Did have somebody once say to me,
19:24you can't be the priest here
19:25because you're not Father Brown.
19:29We do make the place look untidy, that's for certain.
19:32That is absolutely true.
19:34Each episode takes just over two weeks to film,
19:38which is great for villagers like Nicky
19:39from the local cafe.
19:41During the time that they're here,
19:43it creates lots of excitement for the village.
19:45I'm not saying it's always easy
19:47because, you know, Blockley's quite a small community.
19:50Certainly for us, it creates good trade.
19:53The series is set in 1953.
19:56The cast get their 50s makeover at Father Brown HQ,
19:59which has set up camp on the outskirts of the village.
20:03Siraca Cusack, who plays Mrs McCarthy,
20:06Father Brown's no-nonsense parish secretary,
20:08is getting into character.
20:10I do like her.
20:11I do like her.
20:12It's because she's opinionated.
20:15She's rather like me, actually.
20:18Have they been feeding you properly, Father?
20:20I think you've lost weight.
20:22And feeling better for it.
20:24It's the job of costume designer Anne Rudd
20:27to make sure the outfits look authentic.
20:30We've got Mrs McCarthy there, Inspector Sullivan.
20:33This is Father Brown.
20:35This is the cassock that he's worn a lot.
20:38Anne was inspired at an early age.
20:42I can't really remember a time when I didn't love clothes.
20:45I mean, my mum.
20:46Doing this show is great because it reminds me of my mum.
20:49She used to make all her own clothes and all of mine.
20:52I started trying to make things myself about six or seven
20:57on her sewing machine.
20:58It probably is in my DNA.
21:00Now they look the part,
21:02the actors are preparing for the first take of the day.
21:05First of all, we will go through the lines.
21:07Then we'll decide when we're going to stand,
21:09what we're going to do.
21:10Then we show it to the crew.
21:11And then the crew will come in and do their stuff.
21:14So the whole thing's very collaborative,
21:17in a sort of military way.
21:18As well as the actors,
21:20there are over 150 crew working behind the scenes,
21:23including production designer Martin Bodderson,
21:26who has to make sure nothing modern ends up in shot.
21:29We have these little things called,
21:31what we call cover-ups,
21:32which we take with us everywhere
21:33and are always very useful for hiding things like that.
21:37The music plays its part too.
21:39From our home studio,
21:41composer Debbie Wiseman writes the score.
21:43The music is another character in Father Brown.
21:46It's telling the story alongside the characters.
21:48And I get very excited when I get a new episode.
21:51Oh, what are these?
21:56They're savoury.
21:58What's going on in the character's mind?
22:00Are they searching for clues?
22:01Are they scared?
22:04You've scrawled symbols on the window shutters.
22:07Are they feeling romance or love?
22:10That's what the music is doing at its best.
22:13Back in Blockley, actor Tom Chambers,
22:16who plays Inspector Sullivan,
22:17is catching up with the locals.
22:20They've become friends.
22:21You really don't mind us being here
22:23in your beautiful village.
22:24No, I do. Do you?
22:25I love it. I think it's great.
22:27And for Father Brown fans,
22:29it's a treat to see the cast and crew in action.
22:31We're from Newcastle.
22:33We love Mark Williams.
22:34And they're all here,
22:35so, yeah, it's very nice indeed.
22:37We're having a fabulous scene.
22:39It's a cherry on the top scene
22:40and the actual filming.
22:41You weren't expecting that at all.
22:43The new series promises plenty of intrigue,
22:45a seaside adventure
22:47and there'll be some famous faces
22:49joining the cast.
22:50I got rid of you once before.
22:53Then I can get rid of you again.
22:56Right, that's enough of you lot
22:57lurking round our set.
22:59If you want to know who done it,
23:01you'll have to watch your television.
23:05Enjoyed that.
23:05It's amazing to see how everything comes together.
23:07So good.
23:07Father Brown returns with a brand new series
23:09this Friday at 2 o'clock on BBC One and iPlayer
23:11where you can watch all the episodes.
23:12Time now to introduce our next guest,
23:14it's broadcaster and best-selling author,
23:16Jake Humphrey.
23:17Hello, friends.
23:18Hi.
23:19Hello.
23:21High performance of the podcast.
23:22It goes from strength to strength
23:24where you interview
23:25some of the most inspirational people
23:26around the world,
23:27you and Damien Hughes,
23:28of course,
23:29from Usain Bolt
23:31to Professor Brian Cox.
23:34When you have these conversations,
23:36you would say there's one sort of theme
23:37that comes through
23:38from all these high-performing people.
23:40Yeah, I think the thing that comes through,
23:42actually having spoken to a lot of people,
23:44is that I used to believe,
23:45and I started the podcast way back in 2019,
23:48thinking that to do what we want to do in life,
23:50we have to take huge leaps in certain directions.
23:52We have to completely change our life, right,
23:54to change our life.
23:55But then we've spoken to hundreds of people
23:57who've basically told us that we kind of,
24:00we think too much about the outcome
24:02and the motivation
24:03and we don't think enough about the daily habits.
24:05And so, as we've spoken to all these guests,
24:07over 400 over the last six years on the podcast,
24:10we've realised that actually
24:11it is about the tiny, insignificant,
24:14daily things that we do
24:14that we almost don't even notice
24:16that makes the difference,
24:18which is where the books come from.
24:19And I feel kind of bad, really,
24:20sitting on this show talking about the book
24:22because it's like,
24:23it's a self-help book for people
24:24that don't read self-help books
24:25because the stuff in it is so simple.
24:27You'll read it and go,
24:28that can change my life?
24:29I don't believe it, but it does.
24:31Well, it's called Micro Habits
24:32and I think it's quite timely
24:33because January is a time of year
24:34where we reset, we want goals
24:37and we want to be a better person,
24:38you know, all these sort of things.
24:39But you say that these micro habits
24:40can help with that.
24:41Yeah, absolutely.
24:42Because the way the human brain is wired,
24:44and by the way, I know, like you guys,
24:45I'm a former kids' TV presenter.
24:47I didn't start off knowing this stuff,
24:49but I sat next to an amazing guy
24:50called Professor Damien Hughes
24:51for the last six years on the show.
24:53And he sort of explained to me
24:55that the human brain
24:56tries to conserve energy as much as possible,
24:58which is why so often in life you think,
25:00did I just put the washing on?
25:01I did it on autopilot
25:03because the brain is trying to conserve energy.
25:05So actually, it's kind of hard to change
25:07the way that you live your life
25:08because your brain is always looking
25:09for the shortcut you've always done.
25:11So the way to change your brain
25:12and therefore change your life
25:13is to create habits, micro habits,
25:15which is what the book's called,
25:17that are so small and so insignificant
25:19that there's no added friction to the brain.
25:21But actually, the place you end up at the end
25:24is so different to where you start.
25:25And you pick up a habit that's probably good for you.
25:27It'd be very personal, I'd imagine.
25:29Is there one that you've seen or heard
25:32over the 400 interviews we think
25:34that's actually had a huge impact on your life?
25:36Definitely.
25:37A guy called Shane Parrish,
25:38who's an amazing thinker from the United States.
25:41And we had him on the show a couple of years ago.
25:43And at the time, my life looked really good.
25:45I was hosting Champions League
25:47and Premier League football.
25:48I had a couple of businesses that I'd created
25:49hosting the podcast.
25:51Two amazing kids.
25:52Hi, guys.
25:54But I felt overwhelmed and I felt unhappy
25:56and I didn't really know what was going on.
25:58And I said this to Shane.
25:59You can hear it on the podcast.
26:01And he said, well, what really matters in your life?
26:03Like, what do you need for you?
26:05And I said, well, number one, time with my wife, Harriet.
26:09Number two, time with my kids, Flo and Sebastian,
26:11who are watching right now.
26:12And number three, a little bit of time each week for myself,
26:15just to go to the gym or walk the dog or something.
26:17And he said, great.
26:18Well, show me your diary and let me see
26:20where those things are in your diary.
26:22And I was like, well, they're not in my diary
26:23because I love them so much I make sure they happen.
26:25And he said, well, are they happening?
26:27And I was like, no.
26:29And that was why, despite my life looking great,
26:31it didn't actually feel very good.
26:33And what he explained to me was,
26:34those things are important,
26:36but life is full of urgent stuff.
26:37And the urgent will always kick the important to the side.
26:41So his advice was at the start of the week,
26:43look at your diary,
26:43find three or four places that you can just chat to Harriet
26:47or be with the kids or walk the dog or have a game of paddle.
26:50And that tiny thing that almost looks like nothing
26:53has been transformational for me.
26:55And the book's packed with those kinds of lessons from guests.
26:58Do you have any micro tips?
26:59I would like, I would need someone to tell me,
27:03you know, you know, you're doing that.
27:06Well, that was what the book will do.
27:08I will give you a copy.
27:09So, but like a person, can you come round and say,
27:12why are you doing that?
27:14Or tell my wife, why is she doing that?
27:16Right.
27:16So you want me to come to your wife,
27:19come to your house and tell your wife.
27:20I think that you should need to sort that out in your own diary.
27:22I also like that.
27:23You just told me I can play more paddle,
27:25which is the best part of it.
27:26Jake and Damon Hughes' book, Microhabits,
27:29Tiny Habits, that supercharged high performers is out now.
27:32That's all we've got time for this evening.
27:34Thanks to all our guests.
27:35And of course, to Matt with Watchdog.
27:37Tomorrow, JB and I will be joined by actor Rebecca Ferguson,
27:39plus Denise Welsh will be here with Waterloo Row
27:41talking about it.
27:41See you then.
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