The Graham Norton Show - Season 18 Episode 07- Kate Winslet, Michael Fassbender, 50 Cent, Julie Walters, Ellie Goulding
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00:00What technology can do now. I mean, look at this. Michael, ask us something.
00:04Do we have a great show tonight?
00:08We have great guests, especially that Michael Fassbender. He's gorgeous.
00:14Yeah, I know. Hey, and what about the host, Graham Norton?
00:19I'm sorry. I don't know what a Graham Norton is.
00:24You know, the chat show host?
00:26Would you like me to search for old men with beards?
00:31Stupid phone. Let's open the show!
00:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:37Oh! Oh! Hello! Hello!
00:54Good evening, everybody. Oh, something, something, something. Good evening and welcome.
01:01Great line-up for you tonight. And, hey, there's bound to be some computer talk.
01:05And, you know, the modern computer has so many uses.
01:08We use it for knowledge, news, banking.
01:11Mainly, though, we use it for looking at pictures like this.
01:14LAUGHTER
01:14It's true. You won't believe what happened next.
01:18But Steve Jobs, what a genius.
01:22Now, here he is launching Apple's revolutionary new phone.
01:25Yeah, you could make calls, send emails, and carry it all around in the palm of your hand.
01:30Of course, we had our own Steve Jobs in this country.
01:33LAUGHTER
01:34LAUGHTER
01:35Hey, let's get some guests on.
01:38And later, with the music from pop superstar Eddie Goulding, everybody.
01:41Yeah?
01:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:42But first, this man exploded onto the music scene
01:46with his debut album, Get Rich or Die Trying,
01:49one of the biggest-selling hip-hop artists of all time.
01:51Now he's back with his new single, Nine Shots.
01:54It's 50 Cent!
01:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:5750 Cent.
01:58Hello.
02:00All right.
02:01It's really good to see you again.
02:02Nice to come back.
02:03CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:03Everyone loves this lady.
02:07She's made us laugh and cry.
02:08Playing characters from Mrs. Overall to Mo Mollum,
02:11now starring in the movie Brooklyn,
02:13please welcome Julie Walters!
02:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:16CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:17Yay!
02:18Yay!
02:19Yay!
02:21Good to see you.
02:22Hello, darling.
02:23Thank you, darling.
02:24Come and sit down.
02:25Hey!
02:25Hey!
02:26He's one of Hollywood's hottest properties
02:30after a string of stand-out performances
02:32in Shame, in Glorious Bastards, X-Men
02:34and Oscar-nominated in 12 Years a Slave.
02:37Now, starring as Steve Jobs, it's Michael Fassbender!
02:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:42How are you?
02:43How are you?
02:43Thank you, Michael Fassbender!
02:44How are you?
02:45How are you?
02:46How are you?
02:47Good to see you.
02:47Good to see you.
02:48You guys with me.
02:48Have a seat.
02:49Good to see you.
02:49CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
02:50And starring with Michael and Steve Jobs,
02:53this lady shot the fame in Titanic 18 years ago
02:56and has gone on to win three Golden Globes,
02:58a Grammy, an Emmy and an Oscar.
03:00She's one of our greatest Hollywood exports
03:02and one of my favourite actresses.
03:03It's Kate Winslet!
03:05CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
03:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
03:09How are you doing?
03:11How are you doing?
03:12How are you doing?
03:12How are you doing?
03:13How are you doing?
03:13How are you doing?
03:13How are you doing?
03:14Have a seat, though.
03:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
03:15Yeah!
03:16Oh, look at that.
03:18Oh, meeting and greeting.
03:20We've got to do that.
03:21It's just a sort of a, you know...
03:23Yeah.
03:23Excuse to kiss a bunch of people.
03:25LAUGHTER
03:26Nice.
03:27Love it.
03:27There you go.
03:28Welcome back.
03:29Now, did somebody die and I didn't get a memo?
03:31What happened?
03:32LAUGHTER
03:33Oh, actually, yeah.
03:34You're all in...
03:35Like, I feel rude.
03:36It's disrespectful.
03:37I've gone crazy.
03:38LAUGHTER
03:39Are you all right there, Julie?
03:40Yes, why'd you ask?
03:41Well, no, because I know you like Michael.
03:43I beg your pardon.
03:44You're a fan of Michaels, aren't you?
03:46I think Michael is a very nice person.
03:48Yes!
03:49And have you been 57 before?
03:50Yes, of course.
03:51I'm a huge fan.
03:52LAUGHTER
03:55Anyway, if I had to force you, Julie, if I had to force you, Julie, what would you
03:58say is your favourite 50 cent record of all time?
04:01OK, well, love the first album.
04:03Get Rich.
04:04Yeah, Get Rich, Die Trying.
04:06Good.
04:07Absolutely loved Massacre.
04:09Yeah.
04:10Yeah.
04:11My favourite is Indy Club.
04:12Oh, yes.
04:13Yeah.
04:14We do.
04:15Yes, go, shorty.
04:16Hang on a minute.
04:17Oh, no, no, wait.
04:18You know this.
04:19You know this.
04:20I've got this.
04:21I've got to do it.
04:22It's very rapid.
04:23Because you didn't know.
04:24Yeah, you didn't know, did you?
04:25So, go, shorty, it's your birthday.
04:26We're gonna bark at lunch.
04:27It's your birthday.
04:28Yeah, very good.
04:30See, if you didn't know, did you?
04:35How do you know you knew it?
04:36Mercy.
04:37Oh, right.
04:38Now, in all that excitement, in all that excitement, Julie, your poppy has fallen off.
04:42Good God.
04:43And the Daily Mail will go apeshit if you're on here without a poppy.
04:47Michael Fassbender was standing on it.
04:49Michael cracked my poppy.
04:51Yeah, yeah.
04:52It's back on.
04:53We're good.
04:54We're good.
04:55We're good.
04:56Now, talking of birthdays, ladies and gentlemen, talking of birthdays,
04:59talking of birthdays, Kate Winslet, you had a...
05:02Oh, not a big birthday, but a milestone birthday.
05:04Starting on 40.
05:05Forty.
05:06Oh, you're ready.
05:07Yes, go on.
05:08You never believed it to look at me.
05:11You really wouldn't.
05:12Of course, yes, you would.
05:13Well, if you say, oh, you don't look at 40, but you don't,
05:17because you're on the cover of a Squire magazine.
05:19No, look at this.
05:20This is...
05:21Oh, my God!
05:22Now, I do actually look quite nice.
05:23Now, I do actually, Michael, I do look quite nice, don't I?
05:25Yeah, very nice indeed.
05:26Yes.
05:27No, you look amazing.
05:29Thank you very much.
05:30Yeah.
05:31Well, a good photographer works wonders, bit of hair and makeup.
05:33But talking of turning 40, now, rather confusingly, 50 turned 40.
05:37Yeah, yeah.
05:38And...
05:39Don't show them my pictures now.
05:42No, no, no.
05:43No, we're showing everybody.
05:45Because you decided, turn 40, you thought, I'm going to do a magazine cover.
05:48Yeah, yeah.
05:49I said, I wasn't going to be fat.
05:50No.
05:51No.
05:52I didn't want to do that.
05:53You know, because I had just finished shooting with the Southpaw film with Jake Gyllenhaal
05:57and Forrest Whitaker.
05:58And I was, like, cuddly for that one.
06:01Like, nice and soft.
06:03I was playing promoter while they were playing professional fighters, so it didn't make sense
06:06for me to be all, you know, ripped up.
06:08And I gave myself the excuse to go get in shape after.
06:11And the magazine you chose to appear on was Muscle & Fix.
06:15Wow.
06:16Wow.
06:17Check what out.
06:19I definitely do.
06:21There are so many 40-year-olds watching this showing...
06:26It's over.
06:27We're done.
06:29And now, Michael Fassbender, did you have a big birthday recently?
06:32Well, recently in April.
06:34Uh...
06:35April.
06:36April 2nd.
06:37Okay.
06:38Because we found this picture online, and I...
06:40Honest to God, we didn't make this picture.
06:42Okay.
06:43I think we Googled Michael Fassbender and birthday.
06:45Okay.
06:46And I swear to God, this is the picture that came up.
06:48That was last April.
06:52Happy days!
06:55That was a good one.
06:57Adorable.
06:58Now, uh, Michael and Kate are here to talk about the biopic Steve Jobs.
07:03Now, it opens next Friday, the 13th, directed by Danny Boyle.
07:06Now, obviously, Michael, you play Steve Jobs.
07:08Now, when we look at you, you don't immediately think,
07:10oh my God, he looks just like Steve Jobs.
07:13So, were you a bit nervous about going into this?
07:16Uh, well, I, you know, I said to Danny, are you sure?
07:19You...
07:20You...
07:21You...
07:22Because, like, you know, exactly that.
07:23I said, I don't look anything like the man.
07:25And, you know, he's...
07:27He's...
07:28Yes.
07:29No, you really don't.
07:30Uh...
07:31Uh, that wasn't a planned thing, you know, because Danny was like,
07:33I just want you to get the essence of, of the man.
07:35I'm not interested in, in, in lookalikes.
07:37We're just, you know, and the audience will, will deal with that in the first five minutes.
07:40And I think they do.
07:41Audiences are smart enough and they say, okay, we're not going down that route.
07:44But by the time we got to the third act, you know, I was talking to Danny and I said,
07:48you know, I think we should roll out the roll neck.
07:53And, and the jeans and give the audience something in the third act and we got the glasses and
07:58that all happened kind of organically.
08:00And Kate, who do you play?
08:02Okay, so I, by the way, I just have to say, this film is really fantastic and Michael is
08:06really fantastic in it.
08:07Moving on swiftly.
08:08I know you hate me doing that, but I have to say.
08:10Um, yeah.
08:11Um, I play a woman named Joanna Hoffman.
08:14I look absolutely nothing like her at all.
08:17This is, there's the real, there's the real.
08:20That's her now, that's closer to her now.
08:23Um, she, she was the head of marketing for the Macintosh and, uh, she stayed in Steve's
08:30life as a friend for a very long time and in the film she's very much like his right-hand
08:34woman and his, his work wife.
08:35She's a hot-headed Polish-Armenian woman.
08:38And she arrived complete with accent for the read-through on the first day.
08:42That's annoying.
08:43That was annoying.
08:44Oh, shit.
08:45We have a side ourselves with fear.
08:49Because with biopics often people have a lot, you know, you have a lot of license.
08:53But this is such recent history.
08:55Everyone's got an opinion on what happened to the man.
09:00How do you think he fares?
09:02Do you think it's fair?
09:03Do you think he's let off easy?
09:04Do you think it's harsh?
09:05Uh, well, it's kind of hard for me to say because even like, when I was reading the script
09:10when, you know, Danny was saying, you know, that's a, you know, he's being quite difficult
09:14here or, you know, uh, he's not that likable.
09:17I, you know, I just saw somebody who was literally trying to move mountains.
09:22You know, I mean, he had a vision from the mid seventies that, you know, we're experiencing
09:27now, you know, 35 years later and plus.
09:30Yeah.
09:31And so trying to drag everybody along to the, to his vision, I think required an awful amount
09:37of focus, determination and drive.
09:39And I think perhaps there was a little bit of lack of patience on his part, uh, putting
09:45it maybe mildly, but you know, it took an extraordinary amount of energy to get there.
09:50And I think, um, he demanded the very best from people.
09:53Well, so we've got a clip.
09:54This is your character, uh, Kate, confronting Steve Jobs, not as an inventor or an innovator,
09:59but as a dad.
10:00Don't think you're having a bizarre overreaction to a 19 year old girl allowing her mother to
10:06list her own house.
10:07She could have tried.
10:08She's supposed to stop her mother, that particular mother from living.
10:12She gave Suzanne her blessing to sell the house and she did it despite me.
10:15I don't care if she put a pipe bomb in the water heater.
10:18You're going to fix it now.
10:21She's been acting weird for months.
10:23She's turned on me.
10:24Fix it.
10:25What the?
10:26Fix it, Steve.
10:27Take it easy.
10:28Fix it.
10:29Fix it.
10:30Or I quit.
10:31How about that?
10:32I quit and you never see me again.
10:33How about that?
10:35You can't meet Steve Jobs, but you met the real Joanna.
10:38I did, yeah.
10:39And actually that was quite helpful.
10:40I think she's an amazing woman.
10:41She's amazing.
10:42She was like, oh, I lost my apple buns.
10:43I don't know where they are.
10:44Yeah.
10:45And she was so not bothered by it.
10:46I'd be crying in the corner.
10:47Yeah.
10:48She said, she was so funny.
10:49She said, well, Steve had come to my apartment and he said, you know, Joanna, I have to clean
11:02this place.
11:03It's such a tip.
11:04And he cleaned it and then I lost my buns.
11:06So she thinks that maybe Steve actually swept the buns into a rubbish bag and threw them
11:13away by accident.
11:14Totally not bothered.
11:15I don't know.
11:16And her accent is very specific.
11:18Yeah.
11:19To her.
11:20Yeah.
11:21Like it's not.
11:22Yeah.
11:23It drove me absolutely mad.
11:24It drove me bonkers to be honest.
11:25Accents.
11:26Accents.
11:27Is it true 50 cent?
11:28You can do a London accent.
11:30I think I can do a little something.
11:33Okay.
11:34No, but it's just a different thing, bruv.
11:36Oh.
11:37Oh my God.
11:38That is it right there.
11:41That is it.
11:42That is very good.
11:43Judy, you're good at the accents.
11:45But what ones are hard?
11:46Which ones do you struggle with?
11:48Geordie, I think it's a hard one for me.
11:50Liverpool was very hard when I first did it because I'm from Birmingham and people get
11:53them mixed up anyway.
11:54Because there is a kind of similarity, but not really once you learn Liverpool.
11:58It's not the, not, but.
12:00Well, 50, you can do your Geordie because you're going to Newcastle tomorrow.
12:03Yeah, but I'm not going to do that when I...
12:05I'm going as 50 cent.
12:10Yeah, they won't be doing that.
12:13Yeah.
12:14But Michael, in X-Men you're not doing an accent, but you are.
12:17This next movie, is this the movie when you kind of turn into Ian McKellen?
12:21Well, not really.
12:23Yeah, it's strange.
12:25For the first one I used my own accent.
12:28And then for the second one I did Ian McKellen's accent.
12:31So for this one it's kind of a hybrid between the two.
12:35A little confused actually.
12:37Yeah.
12:38But do you have to talk to yourself in this one?
12:40How do you mean talk to myself?
12:41Do you have to talk to Ian McKellen?
12:43Oh, no, no.
12:44I don't talk to him in this.
12:45As in, like, to prepare or in the actual film?
12:48No, no.
12:49In the film.
12:50It's all time travelling crap, I don't know.
12:52That was the last one.
12:53Yeah, you met in the last one.
12:54Yeah, he's not in this one.
12:55Oh, I see.
12:56That's not a spoiler, is it?
12:57I don't think he's in it anyway.
12:58I mean, sure he's not.
12:59Are you in it?
13:00But I did, I did, like, for the last one I did listen to, you know, various tapes and sort
13:12of like...
13:13Can you do a bit?
13:14Can you do a bit?
13:15I'll give it a little go.
13:16Three days as a crew flies.
13:18That's great!
13:23And Kate Winslet, because you are doing your Australian accent.
13:31Oh, yes, I'm in another film.
13:32Yes, you're in another film.
13:34The Dressmaker.
13:35Yes.
13:36So, what's this one about, The Dressmaker?
13:38Okay, The Dressmaker is based on a book.
13:40It's a dark comedy set in the 50s in a small town in Australia and I play a woman, Tilly
13:46Dunnage, who has been ostracised by the town at the age of ten, wrongfully accused of
13:51being responsible for the murder of a fellow schoolmate.
13:54And the opening scene of the film, she gets off the bus and she says, I'm back, you bastards.
13:58And the whole story is about revenge.
14:00And also the rediscovery of a fragmented mother-daughter relationship.
14:03The mother played by Judy Davis as a senile old bat.
14:06She's fantastic.
14:07So, it's a dark comedy with Liam Hemsworth as well.
14:10Alright, well actually, we've got a clip and this is you and Judy and Liam all together.
14:15She tells them if they want it done proper, they've got to strip and be measured.
14:19Because it's a work of art made special for them and no one else.
14:22You see, Tilly, I do listen.
14:24She tells them that they're all different, even though they're all the same.
14:29Too fat, too skinny.
14:30You'll be a sight for sore eyes.
14:32Anyway, lo and behold, our genius here does make them look different.
14:38Less like themselves and more like they want to be.
14:41Don't you?
14:42You just called me Tilly.
14:44When?
14:45Just then.
14:47I never.
14:48Yes, you did.
14:49And this morning?
14:50Twice.
14:51Oh, liar.
14:52Sounds like this is the most important piece of clothing I'll ever own.
14:55You've sold so many tickets right there.
15:06Struggling, struggling to keep a straight face during that.
15:09See, I've got to tell you, poor Liam, bless him, for, you know, 12 hours straight,
15:13we kept making him take his clothes off.
15:16We didn't mean to or anything.
15:18It was accidents.
15:19We need another take.
15:20Just one more.
15:21Well, we kept making mistakes, so we had to keep going again.
15:24It's terrible.
15:25No, but Judy and I had a hard time keeping a straight face.
15:28I don't know why.
15:29It just, the whole concept of that scene is just so silly and funny.
15:32But yes, lovely Liam.
15:34He's very sweet.
15:35It is quite, like, that is very upstage-y.
15:37It's just like.
15:38I know.
15:39My teenage daughter was furious that I got to be in the same space as him in that moment.
15:45She was like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
15:48I think it was, it was just a series of sounds that she made.
15:51Well, people will really want to know now.
15:52That's The Dressmaker.
15:53It's out in November the 20th.
15:54All right, everybody.
15:55Yeah, we'll see you there.
15:56But now, ladies and gentlemen, 50 Cent, the musician, has returned to us.
16:01You're back.
16:02Ben, Ben.
16:03Yes, you are.
16:05Now, we're going to see, we'll see a clip of the video for nine shots and you single in a minute.
16:13But it goes back to an early, kind of terrible experience in your life.
16:17Now, if you guys aren't familiar with this story of what happened, it's amazing.
16:20Go.
16:21Well.
16:22No pressure or anything.
16:24I got, you know, shot nine times, but it was one time.
16:29So, and I just didn't see the person coming or I would have avoided it.
16:33Yes.
16:34You would.
16:35You know, this happened and I was trying to write a song conceptually that would define
16:41more of who I am.
16:42So, I wrote nine shots and just picked nine painful moments that I experienced in my life
16:48and used the shot as a metaphor.
16:50But the nine...
16:51Where were you shot?
16:52Where?
16:53In front of my grandmother's house.
16:54But where?
16:55In the body.
16:56In the body.
16:57In the body.
16:58In the body.
16:59In the body.
17:00In the body.
17:01In the body.
17:02In the body.
17:03In the body.
17:04That's like being in the doctor's office, isn't it?
17:05I got in a few...
17:06Most of them in the legs.
17:07I got hit in my hand and I got hit in the face.
17:09So, like...
17:10The fragment portion of it is in my tongue.
17:13So, it kind of changed the way I speak a little bit.
17:16And you're rapping as well.
17:17Yeah.
17:18What is it still in your tongue?
17:19Can you see it?
17:20Yeah, it's great for oral sex.
17:21Is it?
17:22Oh, right.
17:23Okay.
17:24I didn't hear that.
17:25Thank you so much.
17:26Make sure you keep that bit in the show.
17:28Yeah.
17:29Let me just make a note of that.
17:31Uh, yeah.
17:32I'm a better man now.
17:34Is it like a lump?
17:35Can you see it?
17:36Yeah.
17:37Let's have a feel, 50.
17:43I've washed my hands.
17:44Make sure old sex and then you're gonna put your finger in my mouth, huh?
17:47Oh, now, stop it.
17:52I better not, Adai.
17:53Let's go have a look.
17:54Have a look.
17:55See if you can buy.
17:56I just have a look.
17:57I need a napkin.
17:58I need a napkin.
17:59Has anyone got a tissue?
18:00Anyone got a tissue?
18:01A clean one.
18:02Oh, look, these ladies.
18:03These ladies.
18:04Thank you very much.
18:05Look, they're still...
18:06Look, they're still hermetically sealed.
18:07Thank you very much.
18:08There they go.
18:09Wow.
18:10How were you prepared?
18:11Did someone tell you to come with this?
18:13How did that happen?
18:15What's the odds of that?
18:16You'd be sitting in the front row with this?
18:18Yes.
18:19Who does this kind of stuff, right?
18:21What only happens on this programme, honestly?
18:24Oh, yeah, I can feel it.
18:29There we go.
18:30Yeah, eBay.
18:31Tonight.
18:32Yeah.
18:33Wake up tomorrow night after the show, they'll be worth a lot.
18:49Yeah.
18:50Hey, we've got a bit of the music video.
18:53This is you performing nine shots.
18:55The first shot.
18:56Bullet wound in my back.
18:57I'm...
18:58Look at my sneakers.
18:59I'm...
19:00Now I'm on my own.
19:01Mommy gone.
19:02Sam said you a young boy.
19:03Why your clothes look so old?
19:05You don't need fish look.
19:07You need a pro.
19:08You don't need no new kicks.
19:10You need a O.
19:11Shout that baggy.
19:12Get right back at you.
19:14It touched me.
19:15It hit me in my heart.
19:16I'm a hustler, homie.
19:17He was giving me my start.
19:19I am what I am.
19:20Sabrina's only baby.
19:21Practicing in the mirror.
19:22Pulling out my 380.
19:24Baby.
19:25Woo!
19:31Nine shots is available now.
19:34Uh, Julia's a fan.
19:36Where would you rate that in, in 50s oof?
19:38Ooh, I'd say right which the tongue or the...
19:44Wait till I tell my husband about that.
19:46You'd go home and shoot him in the mouth.
19:48Yeah.
19:49The tongue is good for all.
19:50Yeah, exactly.
19:51Yeah, you'll understand.
19:52Yeah.
19:53Light's up there.
19:54It's right.
19:55Now, the music, is it hard to get back to the music?
20:02Because you seem to be doing so much acting now.
20:04I've seen you in quite a few movies.
20:05This, well, I've actually used my characters now.
20:09Like the Canaan character that I play, a reoccurring character on the Stars Network.
20:13My show is Powell.
20:14It's the largest original series on their network.
20:17So, now it...
20:18And you were in that and you were executive producer as well?
20:20Yeah.
20:21I actually developed it from scratch.
20:22Okay.
20:23Yeah.
20:24Well done, you!
20:25I'll do a little something.
20:26Yeah!
20:27Yeah!
20:28Now, you haven't worked with, uh, the mighty Meryl Streep.
20:34But you, you've met her?
20:35You spent time with her?
20:36Yeah, yeah.
20:37We was, uh, well, a Knick game.
20:39We just went in the same place to watch the basketball game.
20:41Oh, the basketball game.
20:42Oh, yeah.
20:43Yeah, it was like, it wasn't her first basketball...
20:45Well, it was her first live basketball game.
20:47And it was interesting, because I, I had a, like, a bit of normalcy.
20:51Like, it was like a punch of normalcy.
20:53Because I sat next to her and her influence was so strong that it was like,
20:57okay, I'm regular today.
20:58I was like, wow, this is great.
21:01Like, you know, nobody cares.
21:02I'm here now.
21:03Well, somebody took a picture of the two of you.
21:06There you are.
21:07Yeah.
21:08That's great.
21:09You know what's interesting?
21:10Every picture that I saw of that day didn't have the other side of the mirror.
21:15Her husband was sitting on the other side of her.
21:17It's like every photographer got the memo.
21:19Don't you take this motherfucker picture.
21:25It looks like, you look like you're feeling the cold there, 50.
21:28Well, you know, I'm in New York City.
21:30I'm wearing a Jets hat.
21:32It's freezing outside.
21:33I'm, you know, I'm trying to do this.
21:35I'm not a big Jets fan, but I have to.
21:37I'm from New York, so you have to wear it.
21:38And, of course, going from acting into music is one thing.
21:41But then, Michael, music was your first love.
21:45Was it not?
21:46Yeah.
21:47Yep.
21:48But, uh...
21:49Were you in a band?
21:50Was it a band, or...?
21:51You couldn't really classify it as a band.
21:53There was only two of us.
21:56So, you know, his name was Michael too, so...
21:59Michael and Michael?
22:00That's right, yeah.
22:01Did you have a name?
22:02Well, obviously, Michael and Michael.
22:03We didn't, actually.
22:04We never got round to getting a name.
22:06Uh...
22:07I think Sargasso Sea was something that I was...
22:12Live music, Sunday night.
22:13Sargasso Sea.
22:14Yeah, I was, like, finding a name.
22:15Looking through the Atlas, you know.
22:17Something interesting.
22:18It was a heavy metal band, so Sargasso Sea was quite apt.
22:22Uh, yeah, we didn't, um...
22:24Heavy metal?
22:25Yeah.
22:26That sounds so unlikely.
22:27Watch, you're gonna see in the future Michael play like a heavy metal star.
22:31Yeah, I've been trying.
22:32I've been putting it out there for a while.
22:34I'll just...
22:35I'll just come back to me.
22:36And did you do gigs?
22:37We did one gig in Dingle.
22:38Um...
22:39Sorry, it wasn't Dingle.
22:40It wasn't Dingle.
22:41Sorry.
22:42It's a lie.
22:43It was, uh...
22:44It was Calorglan.
22:45Oh, yes.
22:46They love heavy metal there.
22:47Yeah.
22:48Well, we did...
22:49It was a pub too.
22:50It was...
22:51We were supposed to be busking with electric guitars,
22:53and it's always raining in Ireland, so that was kind of...
22:55It just didn't really work.
22:56And...
22:57So, we convinced the pub to let us come in.
22:59At lunchtime.
23:00And play...
23:01Heavy metal.
23:02And, uh...
23:05Yeah.
23:06It sort of...
23:07They were like, could you just turn it down a bit?
23:08Like...
23:09Turn it down another little bit.
23:11So, eventually, we were just playing unplugged.
23:13Like...
23:14Yeah.
23:15It's not like it didn't go down that well.
23:18It was like...
23:19You want to plug in the afternoon?
23:20Yeah.
23:21Yeah.
23:22Yeah.
23:23Julie Walters brings us a beautiful film.
23:25Uh...
23:26Brooklyn.
23:27Based on the column to be novel.
23:29And now, you'd read the novel before.
23:30It was ever a film or...
23:31Yeah.
23:32Yeah.
23:33Oh, I loved the novel.
23:34Yeah.
23:35So, it was fantastic when it came in.
23:36And then...
23:37And the character that I played was the one I really remember.
23:38Obviously, I remember the central character, sort of.
23:39But she's a young girl.
23:40But I really remembered Mrs. Keough.
23:42Because she reminded me of all my mother's friends.
23:45You know, sort of a mixture of them.
23:46Yeah.
23:47And it was gorgeous.
23:48It was the fifties and...
23:49Yeah.
23:50So, you're Mrs. Keough and...
23:51I'm Mrs. Keough.
23:52Keough?
23:53Yes.
23:54But...
23:55K-E-O-G-H?
23:56No.
23:57It's actually K-E-H-O-E.
23:58Oh, there you go.
23:59So, I suppose it probably is Mrs. Keough.
24:00Oh, yeah, yeah.
24:01But I thought that sounded a bit rude for someone.
24:03Yeah.
24:04That's what I thought.
24:06So, I stuck to Keough.
24:08Keough.
24:09Yeah.
24:10So, how does Mrs. Keough fit into the story?
24:12Well...
24:13Well, the story's about a girl who leaves Ireland in about...
24:16Saoirse Ronan, who's fabulous in it.
24:17She's so good.
24:18Oh, my God.
24:19She's always brilliant.
24:20Saoirse Ronan.
24:21She is amazing.
24:22She made me feel I should go to drama school, really.
24:25She was just so focused and confident and self...
24:29Just brilliant and lovely person.
24:31Anyway, so she plays this young girl who leaves Ireland
24:33for a better life, basically, in New York, in Brooklyn.
24:38And it's all arranged by the parish priest in Brooklyn,
24:42who is played by Jim Broadbent, brilliantly.
24:45And she moves into this boarding house
24:48and I'm with all these other single, Catholic, Irish girls
24:52and a couple of American girls.
24:54And the woman who presides over it is this very, very attractive,
24:57sexually charismatic woman.
24:59LAUGHTER
25:02It's played by me.
25:05LAUGHTER
25:07They're with you.
25:09They're with you.
25:10They're with you.
25:13You haven't got...
25:14You haven't got a...
25:15What do you call it?
25:16We do.
25:17So, Brooklyn, it's out tonight.
25:19Yes.
25:20And this is the very sexually alluring...
25:22This is Kehoe.
25:24Oh, no, I look terrible in it.
25:25You look lovely.
25:26Stop it.
25:27You're wearing a very nice cardigan.
25:28I know the cardis were great.
25:29The cardis were great.
25:30So just look at the cardis.
25:31So this is Julie looking after her girls.
25:34What is the matter with you girls now?
25:37Nothing is the matter with us, Mrs Kehoe.
25:38Is this all because Eilish has found herself a young man?
25:40Eilish is a young man?
25:41We didn't know.
25:42She won't say anything about it.
25:43And why should she?
25:44To you awful gossip mongers.
25:45Anyway, I met him on Saturday night when he called for Eilish.
25:46And he is a gentleman.
25:47Will you tell us what you know about him, Mrs Kehoe?
25:48We know he's quite nice looking.
25:49I don't like his shoes much.
25:50What on earth is wrong with his shoes?
25:51They were a funny colour.
25:52I tell you this much, I'm going to ask Father Flood to preach a sermon on the dangers of giddiness.
26:03I see now that giddiness is the eighth deadly sin.
26:07A giddy girl is every bit as evil as a slothful man and the nice she makes is a lot worse.
26:25Enough!
26:26It's a lovely film.
26:27It's really beautiful.
26:29Now, you've been on a few times, Julie.
26:30Have I?
26:31Yeah.
26:32Oh, here you mean?
26:33Yes, here.
26:34Yes.
26:35And I don't think we've ever mentioned Educating Rita.
26:40Oh, wow.
26:41And, well, yes.
26:42Yeah.
26:43Yeah.
26:44Yeah.
26:45Yeah.
26:46Yeah.
26:47Yeah.
26:48Yeah.
26:49Yeah.
26:50Yeah.
26:51Yeah.
26:52Yeah.
26:53Yeah.
26:54Yeah.
26:55How many years ago?
26:5836, 37 years ago.
27:00Is it really?
27:01Wow.
27:02Yeah.
27:03Because you originated Educating Rita on stage.
27:05Yes.
27:06And it was a big success.
27:07Yeah.
27:08But then the movie, you weren't supposed to do that or that wasn't going to happen.
27:12No, it wasn't.
27:13No.
27:14Well, somebody came to, well, Lewis Gilbert who directed the film eventually came to see the
27:18play and then rang me and said that he wanted to make the film but he didn't think he, he
27:23may, he wanted to use me but he wasn't sure that he'd be able to but he was going to go off to it because I, nobody knew who I was and he would need a star to get the money and all of this.
27:30And he was going to America to try and raise some money.
27:33But when he, when he went to America, they wanted Dolly Parton.
27:37I'm sorry.
27:38Yes.
27:39I'm sorry.
27:40Yes.
27:41Exactly.
27:42In a very different film.
27:44Yes.
27:45Two reasons why I couldn't compete.
27:47Is that really true, Julia?
27:49Yes, true.
27:50Paul Newman and Dolly Parton they wanted.
27:51Oh.
27:52It would have been fabulous but it was a liver pod, you know.
27:55Anyway.
27:56So anyway, Lewis was wonderful and he just said no, we're not going to go down that road.
28:00No.
28:01And he came back and then he rang me up and he said, we've got Michael so we can have you.
28:04We've got a star, we can have you, you can play this.
28:07Amazing.
28:08And, and you didn't get the Oscar but you did get a, a BAFTA didn't you?
28:11Yeah I did.
28:12You were very excited to win the BAFTA.
28:14Stop it.
28:15You know what you're going to go on about.
28:17I had had a drop taken that night.
28:20That's all.
28:22And I, so I didn't expect to win.
28:24And in those days, the BAFTA Awards, this is a very long time before you people.
28:29We used to have dinner before, how much of a mistake is that?
28:33That's a disaster.
28:34It is.
28:35That's a big old no no.
28:36Especially in England.
28:37Oh yeah.
28:38I mean people were absolutely plastic.
28:39Well, not everybody.
28:40What?
28:41It was the first one I'd been to and they were put, they just filled your glass.
28:44I was terribly nervous anyway in case I might have to go up, you know, sort of, you know,
28:48and all of this.
28:49And then I, it was dread deadly when I went to Oscar.
28:52I thought I was being really funny and I obviously, awesome.
28:55I was really pissed.
28:56Well now, I don't know G, cause we have a picture of that and I, and you, you really can't tell.
29:05I don't think you can tell.
29:06Stop it!
29:07Oh my god!
29:08I've never seen that before.
29:09Stop taking off the screen.
29:10I've never seen it.
29:11Take it away, take it away, take it away.
29:12I ended up under the table with a very famous actor and I can't remember who it was.
29:27What?
29:28What?
29:29We were putting, not only actors can, we were putting the whole world to rights.
29:32Well, I don't know why she won.
29:33I don't know why he won.
29:34I don't know why he won.
29:35I missed meeting Princess Anne.
29:37She's never spoken to me since.
29:39Oh my god.
29:40Cause Kate Wizard, when you talk about your Oscar, I really like it cause you were just
29:46so, no false modesty, you wanted to win it, you loved winning it, it was just a brilliant
29:50thing.
29:51I'm still thrilled even now and it was about seven years ago.
29:53Oh no, it was, it's, it's the most extraordinary moment.
29:56I mean, I had, could you be nominated a bunch of times?
29:59Well, you see the thing is, you get really good at losing.
30:02When you get nominated more than a couple of times and, um.
30:06Weren't you nominated twice that same year or something?
30:08No.
30:09I had been, I had.
30:10Two categories.
30:11Don't make me say it.
30:12Sorry.
30:13Said it for you.
30:14So you were up in two categories that year?
30:17I was, what, what had happened was I had two films come out at the same time, which
30:21is not, not uncommon actually.
30:23Um, and, uh, but it just so happened that both of those films were getting this type
30:26of attention and, um, I went to the Golden Globes that year and I had been nominated in
30:31two different categories and won them both.
30:33Oh!
30:34Which was quite fabulous actually.
30:36Sorry everybody else.
30:38But it was.
30:39It doesn't look greedy.
30:41Oh my goodness.
30:42I think she's showing off.
30:43Ever.
30:44I am.
30:45I am.
30:46I am completely showing off.
30:47100%.
30:48Right.
30:49I say to you.
30:50Um, and then, uh, and then when I did, when I did win it was, um, it, it was a really
30:55fantastic moment.
30:56I've got to say, it was, you know, personal fist pumping moment, the biggest one of my whole
31:01life.
31:02But you're really generous with the Oscar on you.
31:03Well, one tries.
31:05You know, everyone, the thing is, first of all, it's very heavy.
31:09I just need to say that.
31:10It weighs about six or seven pounds.
31:12It's really surprisingly heavy.
31:14So, and everyone wants to have a hold, of course, and wants to stand up and go, I'd
31:19like to thank my primary school teachers and my mum and dad.
31:25And so, the best place really for Oscar is actually the loo.
31:28Because then, when everyone goes in for a wearer poo, they can really take their time
31:33in front of the mirror with Oscar.
31:35You can always tell because they flush and then there's about another five minutes.
31:40You're playing with Oscar.
31:43And they come out like, how was Oscar?
31:47And they go, oh my God.
31:48You're so happy.
31:49But yeah, it's a lot, it's a lot of fun watching people's faces.
31:53It's the time test.
31:54Too long for pee, too short for poo.
31:55That's it.
31:56Because you went through the whole Oscar thing, Michael.
32:02Did you go with a speech in your pocket or?
32:05No, I didn't.
32:07I don't know why.
32:09I never really prepare speeches.
32:11I probably should, looking back on some of the ones that I've made.
32:15Especially a best man speech that I did one time, which was awful.
32:18It just really kind of went blank.
32:20Yeah, it was.
32:21It's okay, they're divorced now.
32:23You didn't waste your time.
32:27You're not joking, are you?
32:31No, I'm not.
32:32But yeah, no, I never prepared, no.
32:36Have you been to the office at 50?
32:37It's a long.
32:38Yeah, once.
32:39I was like in the back.
32:40Were you near the bar?
32:42I just wanted to feel the energy.
32:45In the room, like when they're taking selfies and stuff like that.
32:48I was like...
32:49Waving at Meryl.
32:50We've met!
32:51Yeah.
32:52Putting on your green hat.
32:54It's me!
32:55Right, it's time for our musical performance.
33:01The winner of the best female artist at the Brits last year.
33:04The first two albums went platinum, and now she's back with her third.
33:08Performing her current single, On My Mind, please welcome, Ellie Goulding!
33:12CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
33:17Oh, oh.
33:22Oh, oh, oh, oh.
33:26Eh.
33:28It's a little blurry how the whole thing started.
33:31I don't even really know what you intended.
33:34Thought that you were cute and you could make me jealous.
33:37I put it down, so I put it down.
33:40Next thing that I know, I'm in a hotel with you.
33:43You were talking deep like it was mad loud to you.
33:46You wanted my heart, but I just liked your tattoos.
33:49I put it down, so I put it down.
33:52And now I don't understand it.
33:55You don't mess with love, you mess with truth.
33:58And I know I shouldn't say it.
34:01But my heart don't understand why I got you on my mind.
34:06Why I got you on my mind.
34:09Why I got you on my mind.
34:12Why I got you on my heart.
34:14I don't understand why I got you on my mind.
34:18Why I got you on my mind.
34:21Why I got you on my mind.
34:24Why I got you on my...
34:26I always see them talking
34:33Talking about a girl
34:34About a girl with my name
34:36Saying that I hurt you
34:37But I still don't get it
34:39You didn't love me
34:40No, not really
34:42But wait
34:43I could have really liked you
34:45About that
34:46That's why I keep on thinking
34:48About just a shame
34:49You said I was good
34:51So I put it down
34:53So I hope you are
34:54And my heart don't understand it
34:57You don't mess with love
34:59You don't mess with the truth
35:00And I know I shouldn't say it
35:03But my heart don't understand
35:06Why I got you on my mind
35:07Why I got you on my mind
35:11Why I got you on my mind
35:14Why I got you on my mind
35:18Why I got you on my mind
35:20You think you know somebody
35:22You think you know somebody
35:25You think you know somebody
35:28You got yourself
35:34In a dangerous zone
35:37Cause you both fight the fear
35:40Fear of being alone
35:43And I still don't understand it
35:46You don't mess with love
35:48You don't mess with love
35:49You don't mess with love
35:49You don't mess with love
35:49You don't mess with the truth
35:50And my heart don't understand it
35:52Understand it
35:53Understand it
35:54Understand it
35:55Understand it
35:56Why I got you on my mind
36:03You think you lost somebody
36:08Why I got you on my mind
36:11Why I got you on my heart
36:13I don't understand
36:14Why I got you on my mind
36:15You think you lost somebody
36:18Yeah, yeah
36:21You think you lost somebody
36:24My heart won't understand why I got you on my mind
36:29Why I got you on my mind
36:32Why I got you on my mind
36:36Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah
36:54Gorgeous
36:56Come and join everybody
36:58You sit yourself down there every side of you
37:00It's Julie, Michael, Kate, they're all here, gang's all in
37:05Lovely, lovely, nice, nice, like a gig last
37:08Now, congratulations
37:10That looked and sounded marvellous
37:12And that's the single On My Mind
37:14And that's from Delirium, the album, which is available now
37:16Yes, it's out
37:18It sounded great, but the video for that song is pretty epic
37:22They went to town on the video
37:23Yeah
37:24So when you went, you were in Vegas?
37:26Yeah
37:27But did they shut Vegas for you?
37:29Uh, we got to ride horses through an old casino
37:33Actually, it's still running, it's still actually, you can still gamble there
37:37Um, but it was very, all very surreal and bizarre
37:40Um, especially the horse riding bit
37:42You've got a picture of it, this is you on a strip
37:44Oh, wow
37:45And you go quite fast
37:46Um, yeah, we had to, we did have to
37:48I mean, I've ridden horses before, so it wasn't that scary
37:51But, um, that they were a little bit scared, I think
37:54So they, they, they did poo a lot
37:56Yes
37:57Especially mine
37:58Inside the casino
37:59Inside, yeah
38:00But did you have to go, did you have to go like down steps and things on a horse?
38:04Um, yeah, we pretty much had to do everything
38:06I do all my own stunts, so
38:08That's, that's difficult
38:09Yeah
38:10Um, yeah, it was hard, but I wanted, I wanted to make something, sort of, Salma and Louise quite epic
38:14It was different
38:15Yeah, different, yeah
38:16Do you spend, definitely wouldn't have went down the steps on the horse?
38:19Do you spend a lot of time in Vegas, 15?
38:21I bet, yeah, I'm out there a lot
38:22But to go down the steps on the horse, my horse needs another horse in front of it to follow
38:26So, and somebody else on top of it riding it
38:31Right
38:32Make sure we're not doing nothing, I'm not signaling for, for, to do anything crazy
38:36Um, uh, this
38:39No, because, uh, Michael Fassbender, was it on Jane Eyre?
38:42You had a horse
38:43No, you would have very bad behaved horse
38:46On Jane Eyre
38:47Prince, yeah
38:48Prince was the horse
38:49Yeah, yeah, yeah
38:50So, what would happen?
38:51Well, he used to get quite aroused, when, uh, whenever I got on his back
39:00Did you?
39:01So, yeah, he did, yeah
39:02I can understand that
39:04So, uh, he's, uh
39:10Yeah, so, Dan, the horse handler, had to get on it and sort of, you know, canter him or give him a little trot
39:16So, he'd sort of slap off his, his seat back to go
39:20Retracted back in and then it was good to go
39:23Until you got on again and then
39:25Until I got on again and then
39:26Yeah
39:27Cut
39:30Yeah, you can't do that in your lovely Jane Eyre film
39:32Yeah, yeah
39:33Jane
39:37Now, uh, of course, Ellie, a lot of people discovered you through the Christmas ad, the John Lewis ad
39:41Yeah
39:42Your song
39:43Yeah
39:44Yeah, which was, that was a kind of, a big deal for you
39:46I mean, that did introduce you to a whole
39:48Oh, it was love
39:49A different level
39:50Oh, thank you
39:51Um, yeah, I'd, I'd released songs of a more electronic orientation
39:55And then when I, um, did that song, it was just my voice and a piano
40:00And I, I did it with, with Ben, um, love it for Mumford & Sons
40:02And he directed me and, um, and yeah, and then, and then all the, it was like people had heard me for the very first time when that advert came out
40:08Yeah
40:09So, it's pretty cool
40:10Because this Christmas, someone on the couch will be featuring lovely in a Christmas ad
40:15Yes
40:16Uh, Kate Windsor looked at me like, am I in a Christmas ad?
40:21Wait, I'm sure I didn't
40:23It's, it's what they're all thinking
40:25Did I do M&S this year?
40:27Uh, I don't remember
40:29No, you, but no, so posh, you're in the Burberry one
40:32I mean the Burberry
40:33Yes
40:34But you didn't have to jump up and down on the trampoline though
40:35On the trampoline though
40:36Oh, it was heaven
40:37Oh, it was heaven
40:38If I can't jump on trampolines and I wet myself
40:40Well, you do
40:41You do, you absolutely do
40:43And everyone
40:44Because I thought it was my age
40:45Because you're laughing or anything
40:46No, you, when you've had a few children, you know, it's just what happened
40:50You haven't had children, have you yet?
40:51I still wet myself
40:52Do you?
40:53Yes
40:54Just generally speaking
40:55No
40:56I'm sneezing, I'm sneezing
40:58Two, two sneezes, I'm fine
41:00Three
41:02Game
41:03Over
41:04I did have to keep getting off and going to
41:06No
41:07Really, you're in the water
41:08Bloody awful and especially wearing the skirt
41:10Yes, but also in borrowed Burberry clothes
41:12You don't want to
41:13You don't want to make
41:14I was terribly embarrassed the first time I said
41:16I'm sorry, I'm sorry
41:17I'm sorry
41:18Terribly ungainly because you're like trampoline trying to get off it
41:21You know
41:22But it was very
41:23I loved it, it makes you so high
41:25I was high as a kite
41:26I could have gone on
41:27At my great age
41:28I could have gone on for hours, too
41:38Good luck with the album and the tour
41:40Ellie Goulding, everybody
41:41Thank you very much
41:46Very quickly, before we go
41:48We've just got time for a quick visit to the big red chair
41:50Who's there?
41:51Hello, sir
41:52Hi
41:53Hi, what's your name?
41:54I'm Spence
41:55Spence?
41:56Yeah
41:57I'm Devon
41:58Devon?
41:59Yeah
42:00Alright
42:01Do you live in Devon or here?
42:02No, I live in Kentish Town at the moment
42:03Okay
42:04Had to think about that
42:05But
42:06Good luck getting a cab
42:07And
42:08What do you do Devon?
42:09No, you're not Devon
42:10Who are you?
42:11Spence
42:12Spence
42:13Spence
42:14Spence
42:15Spence
42:16What do you do Spence?
42:17I'm a student
42:18A student of?
42:19Clinical Molecular Endocrinology
42:20Hello
42:21Finally
42:22Finally
42:23Finally
42:24A student of Clinical Molecular something or other
42:27Off you go Spence
42:29Okay, so um
42:30I've got three older brothers
42:32And
42:33Back in the day
42:34We found out Titanic was coming out
42:36Oh
42:37Oh
42:38Oh
42:39We were all very excited as a four of us that Kate Winslet
42:42You know, sort of
42:43You know
42:44Yes, we understand, keep going
42:46We may flip you, we may flip you, keep going
42:49So we convinced my mum to take us in the car to the cinema
42:53Um, and as we, you know, we watched for an hour and a half of, you know, Titanic
42:57And as it came up to the scene, um, my mum sort of covered my eyes like this
43:02And all my brothers got to see
43:04And I was so angry I walked out and, uh, sort of got grounded
43:08I think
43:10I think
43:11How very dare you walk out
43:13Of a film I am
43:15In
43:18Definitely not invited back then
43:19Very good
43:20Alright
43:21That is it for tonight
43:22Ladies and gentlemen
43:23Please say thank you to my lovely guests
43:24Annie Goulding
43:2750 Cent
43:29Julie Walters
43:32Michael Vassbender
43:35And Kate Winslet
43:39We're not here next week
43:41It's Children in Need
43:42But do join me in two weeks time
43:44With Comeback King's Duran Duran
43:46Comedian David Walliams
43:47Doctor Who, Peter Cavalde
43:48And the one and only, Mr. Tom Hanks
43:50I'll see you then
43:51Good night everyone, bye-bye
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