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Those of the Cross is a powerful exploration of faith, sacrifice, and devotion bound by belief. It tells the story of individuals whose lives are shaped by the weight of tradition, moral conflict, and spiritual duty. As belief collides with doubt, loyalty is tested and convictions are forged through suffering. This narrative delves into the silent struggles behind sacred symbols, revealing how faith can both redeem and condemn those who carry it.
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00:05:59Have you ever been on the island before? No, just flown over.
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00:06:59Was it the blackberries in the glass jars, and the red kerns in the stone pots, or was it the other way about, Father Abbott?
00:07:13Blackberries jars.
00:07:14So I was right, will you come down, will you come down yourself now and take a look at the fruit?
00:07:19We have a visitor?
00:07:54Go on up, Paul. Tell Brother Martin to send the visitor up.
00:07:58I do that, Father Abbott.
00:08:04I'll carry you back, Father.
00:08:06All right.
00:08:15Carry right on up to the top, Father.
00:08:17All right, thank you.
00:08:18Mind the last steps uneven, Father.
00:08:25It wouldn't do the trip rolled up, would it?
00:08:27How are you?
00:08:28Fine, thanks.
00:08:29Good to meet you, Father Abbott.
00:08:30I'm James Kinsella.
00:08:31Padraig left you at the pier.
00:08:32I'm sorry about that.
00:08:34Seems he mistook you for a reporter.
00:08:36And you've been having lots of them, I'm told.
00:08:38But you came on your own anyway.
00:08:40Enterprising.
00:08:41But you know that's the first flying machine ever to land on Moorcott.
00:08:45Until now, it's as if we missed the century.
00:08:48Would you have preferred that?
00:08:49Preferred what?
00:08:50To have missed this century.
00:08:52To have been born in another time.
00:08:53I should think not.
00:08:55Under the English, unless you had a lust to be an artist,
00:08:57it was not a time to be a Catholic priest in Ireland.
00:09:00Of course, I forgot.
00:09:02Oh, this is my ecumenical order of mission.
00:09:05And this letter is for you, from Father General.
00:09:10Father General.
00:09:18Father General.
00:10:30The decision is mine and as such irrevocable.
00:10:33Now that sounds as if I'm in hot water.
00:10:37Cup of tea?
00:10:39No, thank you.
00:10:40Ah, you will.
00:10:41Carted, bring us a cup of tea.
00:10:44Coaches!
00:10:46I'd just like to have another look at this, if I may.
00:10:48Of course.
00:11:00Do you have a television here?
00:11:04Well, sometimes when something big's going on in the world, we draw lots and five of us bicycle down to Doran's in the village.
00:11:10He has the television.
00:11:12Only five, mind.
00:11:13It's a small place.
00:11:14You know, of course, that the mass your monks say over on the mainland was shown on a television program two months ago.
00:11:20Indeed we do.
00:11:21Haven't we heard of nothing else ever since?
00:11:23Who'd have thought the Latin mass could still be so popular?
00:11:27That program has been seen and discussed by millions of Catholics all over the world.
00:11:31No, you don't tell me.
00:11:34Extraordinary.
00:11:37Now, here's a tale, Father Abbott.
00:11:39Thank you, Martin.
00:11:41Now, would you like an egg with that?
00:11:44No, no.
00:11:44We're having salmon for supper.
00:11:46Salmon?
00:11:46Yes, salmon.
00:11:48If Father Manners can find us a few in the ocean pool.
00:11:52It's an occasion, Martin.
00:11:53Father Kinsella's come all the way from Rome.
00:11:56This bread is our own baking.
00:11:58Irish soda bread.
00:11:59I hope you'll like it.
00:12:04Poor Martin is getting on.
00:12:07We all are here.
00:12:09Last year I said to Father Matthew, he's our master of novices.
00:12:12Matthew, I said, when you retire, we'll retire the job with you.
00:12:16But not one recruit did I see coming along.
00:12:18But now, after that television program, I can find enough recruits to fill a regiment.
00:12:24I suppose that's a relief.
00:12:26No, it is not.
00:12:28You're not anxious for new recruits?
00:12:30I am not.
00:12:31It's a hard life on this island.
00:12:33Fishing, droying kelp.
00:12:35Oh, farming for a few potatoes.
00:12:37It rains a lot.
00:12:38And the monastery's cold.
00:12:39There's no way of heating it properly.
00:12:41And we often find it difficult to make ends meet.
00:12:44But isn't that the thing about hardship?
00:12:45I mean, men will accept it if they feel it's for a worthwhile cause.
00:12:49Just so.
00:12:50But the monastic life, as you know yourself, Father, it's often something different.
00:12:55I break all clergy into two groups, Miss Al.
00:12:58Proselytizers or prayers.
00:13:00Or if you like, missionaries or monks.
00:13:03But monks can also be missionaries, surely.
00:13:05Not on Mork Island.
00:13:07It takes a special vocation to live in a place like this.
00:13:11Not many have it.
00:13:13I do not have it myself, I sometimes think.
00:13:16You've lived on this island most of your life, no?
00:13:22That does not mean to say I like it.
00:13:24You prefer to be somewhere else?
00:13:26I did not say that.
00:13:28Of course not.
00:13:28I'm sorry.
00:13:29I suppose I'm the missionary type myself.
00:13:35I've always wanted to go to South America.
00:13:37To be one of Father Hartman's revolutionaries, overthrowing the government?
00:13:41You've heard.
00:13:42Is Father Gustav Hartman a fine man?
00:13:45He is.
00:13:46He was my teacher.
00:13:47In South America?
00:13:48No.
00:13:49No, I studied with him in Boston.
00:13:51He's crippled now, you know.
00:13:53No, I did not know.
00:13:55Yes, the Brazilian militarists tortured him so many times that they finally broke his back.
00:13:59I should like to meet him.
00:14:03What sort of thing does he teach in those classes of his?
00:14:05Well, he believes that the church is now the perfect structure
00:14:08through which social revolution can be brought to certain underdeveloped areas of the world,
00:14:12and he shows how it can be done.
00:14:16Tell me, does he talk much about God?
00:14:19In what way do you mean?
00:14:22I don't know.
00:14:23Forget it.
00:14:24No, go on, please.
00:14:25Well, what I mean is, is it souls he's after?
00:14:29Or is it the good of mankind?
00:14:31I would say the second.
00:14:34I gather it as much.
00:14:36Well, of course, I'm not much up on those things.
00:14:39I was never one for the missionary impulse myself.
00:14:42But your seal for the old mass, your continuance of the Latin ritual here,
00:14:46surely that can be interpreted as missionary spirit?
00:14:48I thought you'd get wrong with that.
00:14:50Now, come on.
00:14:50Let's go out.
00:14:51See if Minus has caught the salmon for our supper.
00:14:55You'll stay the night?
00:14:57Well, we've got a lot to talk about.
00:15:00We do.
00:15:02What did you tell the man with the helicopter?
00:15:04If I ring, he can be here in an hour.
00:15:06Well, call him in the morning, then.
00:15:08Come on.
00:15:10Mind the step now.
00:15:12I know.
00:15:13We don't want to trip up Rome.
00:15:20Good day.
00:15:21Hello.
00:15:23Well, dear, I would say.
00:15:24Hi.
00:15:24Pretty clear.
00:15:25Where's my other matters?
00:15:26I hear Ted.
00:15:27He's looking for a couple of fish.
00:15:30Well, then.
00:15:31Let's go see what he's got.
00:15:32Let's go see what he's got.
00:16:02That's Father Manus.
00:16:11He said the mask when the television people came.
00:16:15When he catches salmon, he puts them in that pool there.
00:16:17Then when the boat goes to the mainland, we sell them.
00:16:19They fetch a good price, too.
00:16:21So it's a special treat tonight, eating salmon ourselves.
00:16:25Things like that.
00:16:25It's the little things that keeps us going here.
00:16:28The jam in our lives.
00:16:32He's a shy man.
00:16:37When the television people tried to talk to him, he couldn't speak.
00:16:40He's dying to talk to you, though, I warn you.
00:16:42Still, that's what you're here for, isn't it?
00:16:44Explanations.
00:16:45Wasn't that what the Father General called them?
00:16:48Ah, we have our fish.
00:16:50Well, now, Father Rappers.
00:17:04How about these?
00:17:05How do they do?
00:17:05Yes, I think they do.
00:17:07I think they do nicely.
00:17:08And this is Father Kinsella, all the way from Rome, our champion fisherman, Father Manus.
00:17:13Father, I'm glad to know you.
00:17:14Oh, from Rome.
00:17:16So you're the man from Rome?
00:17:18Yes.
00:17:19I never thought.
00:17:21Why?
00:17:22What were you expecting?
00:17:23Well, I don't know.
00:17:24I was expecting somebody of this older, you know, more the sergeant major type.
00:17:30And Italian.
00:17:31You're not Italian.
00:17:32You're an American, aren't you?
00:17:32Yes, I am.
00:17:33Well, I'm delighted, though, to me.
00:17:38Well, no, no, I'm not delighted at all, because we don't know what you're going to do here, do we?
00:17:46You hold your tongue now, Manus.
00:17:48Hold your tongue.
00:17:49You know, when he was a little boy, they told him it was a sin to tell a lie, and I don't think he's told one since.
00:17:55But seriously, Father, I'd love to have a bit of a talk with you sometime, because, you know, what's been happening here,
00:18:01and it was quite astonishing.
00:18:04Yes, yes.
00:18:04Well, I think that we'd better go inside, if you want to have a word with the Father.
00:18:09Come now.
00:18:10Let's go.
00:18:14We can't bring that with us as well.
00:18:16Sure we can.
00:18:19Good man.
00:18:19Yes, sir.
00:18:19Yes.
00:18:29All right.
00:18:30I'll be a referee.
00:18:34Oh.
00:18:34Now, Manus, here's a chance.
00:18:36Get at it.
00:18:36Yes.
00:18:37What are you going to say?
00:18:39Yeah, what's this husband say?
00:18:41Um, I don't know.
00:18:43I forgot what this husband said, but I can tell you this much.
00:18:45I haven't had a wink of sleep since I heard you were coming.
00:18:48Look.
00:18:50It's as plain as the nose on your face.
00:18:53I mean, we did nothing to start all this.
00:18:55We've been going over to the mainland and saying mass every Sunday the way we always did.
00:19:01In Latin.
00:19:02The way we were brought up to say it.
00:19:04Whitler, the priest, and the people facing the altar.
00:19:08You see.
00:19:09Not facing God, you could say, because there's the priest changing the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.
00:19:14The way Jesus told his disciples at the Last Supper.
00:19:18This is my body.
00:19:19This is my blood.
00:19:21Do ye this in commemoration of me.
00:19:25You see.
00:19:27God sent his son on this earth.
00:19:30And he died for us.
00:19:31He died for our sins.
00:19:34And that's what the matter is all about, you see.
00:19:36I mean, it's just that.
00:19:39A commemoration of his death.
00:19:40And it was always in Latin.
00:19:44Because Latin is the language of the church.
00:19:46And the church is universal.
00:19:47I mean, if a fellow could drop into a church anywhere in the world.
00:19:51Anywhere.
00:19:51And here, the very itself same mass.
00:19:55The Latin mass.
00:19:55The only mass there ever was.
00:19:57And the fact that it was in Latin.
00:20:00Well, that was part of the mystery.
00:20:03Because you weren't just talking to your neighbor.
00:20:05You were talking to all night and God.
00:20:07You see.
00:20:09Anyway.
00:20:10That's the way we've been doing it for the past 2,000 years.
00:20:15You see.
00:20:16Well.
00:20:17Just on 2,000 years.
00:20:19Oh, it's a mystery.
00:20:20Of course it's a mystery.
00:20:22But, I mean.
00:20:24Well, what you're giving us now.
00:20:26There's no mystery about that at all.
00:20:27I mean, it's only a mockery as far as I'm concerned.
00:20:31That same song.
00:20:32Because you're not talking to all night and God.
00:20:33You're talking.
00:20:35You're talking to your neighbor.
00:20:36And that's why it's in English.
00:20:37Or German.
00:20:39Or Chinese.
00:20:40Or whatever.
00:20:40Well, whatever kind of language you want to use in the church.
00:20:45I mean, it's an entertainment.
00:20:46That's all it is.
00:20:47And, of course, the people see through it.
00:20:50Of course they do.
00:20:50And that's what has them coming here to Coombe Mountain.
00:20:54If you could only see those people.
00:20:57Bare-headed.
00:20:59With the rain pelting off their faces.
00:21:01When they see that piece of bread that becomes the body and blood of Christ.
00:21:06Through the mystery and the miracle of the Mass.
00:21:09And you wouldn't want to sweep all that away.
00:21:12If you wouldn't.
00:21:14To put in his place what?
00:21:16Well, what you had put in his place.
00:21:17All this guitar playing and singing.
00:21:20And turning around and touching your neighbor.
00:21:23And all that sort of phallology.
00:21:26For no other reason than to bring people into the church.
00:21:30The way we used to bring them into the parish hall for a game of bingo.
00:21:34I don't know.
00:21:34I wish I had all that conviction, Manus.
00:21:41You see, we have a lot of sermons in us here.
00:21:44In the back and behind.
00:21:46Yes.
00:21:47And see, what I'm saying.
00:21:48I mean, it's the God's truth.
00:21:50You have it with Bernier.
00:21:52I don't know what God's truth is.
00:21:55Do any of us.
00:21:57If we did, there'd be no arguments between us.
00:22:01Or would they?
00:22:03No.
00:22:03I suppose not.
00:22:06Well, and it reminds me, there's nothing personal.
00:22:08Do you understand?
00:22:09Oh, of course, Father.
00:22:10I know that.
00:22:11And I appreciate hearing your point of view.
00:22:13You do.
00:22:16I found the Lamb.
00:22:18Good man, you sir.
00:22:19Where was it?
00:22:20Lying in Cullen's old garden.
00:22:22Right against a pony.
00:22:23Yeah, and the pony didn't mind.
00:22:25A double abyss.
00:22:26There's a paraphrase here.
00:22:27Oh, it took more than prayer.
00:22:28It took the whole day.
00:22:31We'll see you at supper.
00:22:32Come.
00:22:33I'll show you at church.
00:22:34Yeah.
00:22:35A little sustenance now.
00:22:37Oh, sure.
00:22:40Take it.
00:22:41No, she's down.
00:22:55Here we are.
00:22:56Say, you were in Rome at the time of Pope John, weren't you, that time you were ill?
00:23:17I was not ill.
00:23:18I went on a holiday to England, and then on to the shrine at Lourdes, and then on to Rome.
00:23:24Where did you hear the book?
00:23:25Where did you hear the book?
00:23:26Where did you hear the book is in?
00:23:27It's Irish Romanesque.
00:23:30Twelve century, isn't it?
00:23:31Beautiful, isn't it?
00:23:33There are advantages to being in a backwood.
00:23:39This is one of the abbeys in Ireland that escaped being almost entirely destroyed by Cromwell.
00:23:45And what happened to you.
00:23:46And what happened to you.
00:23:47And what happened to you.
00:23:48You studied at Buckmore Abbey in England, didn't you?
00:23:49Yes.
00:23:50That's a beautiful question.
00:23:51It is.
00:23:52Have you ever thought of asking for a transfer?
00:23:53A transfer?
00:23:54To some place less remote.
00:23:55Could be arranged, you know.
00:23:56No.
00:23:57All the abbeys of Mork are buried here.
00:23:58Fifty-one of them all laid down like bottles of wine.
00:24:01God will in all be fifty-two.
00:24:02Ah, a stupid ambition better to have it.
00:24:05It's funny.
00:24:06But this place is no summer resort.
00:24:07But every time I take to the mainland, I will not sleep there if I can get back in.
00:24:12I feel at home here.
00:24:13I feel at home here.
00:24:14I feel at home.
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00:25:02O, we bow before thee, O, on earth thy scepter own.
00:25:14O, in heaven, above adore thee.
00:25:21Give the night my life to me.
00:25:25Father, you must be tired after your journey.
00:25:28I'll show you to our guest house.
00:25:30Everlasting is thy name.
00:25:38O, we bow before thee, O, we bow before thee.
00:25:54Well, there you are.
00:25:59We'll have supper at seven.
00:26:01I'll pick you up at 6.30.
00:26:02Okay.
00:26:03Mm-hmm.
00:26:07Where's my lloyd?
00:26:08Where's my soul?
00:26:10I'll pick you up at 10.30.
00:26:13Oh, I'll pick you up at 11.30.
00:26:17I'll be right back.
00:26:18This is the 12th century.
00:26:19I'll take a shot at 11.20.
00:26:20I'll see you later, please.
00:26:21Big, big, big, big, big boy.
00:26:22How about you?
00:26:23What about you?
00:26:24What about you?
00:26:25Let's go.
00:26:55Father John.
00:27:10Father Colum.
00:27:12How do you do?
00:27:12Father Kevin.
00:27:14Father Kinsella from my mother's house in Rome.
00:27:17Father Terence.
00:27:18In charge of our farm here.
00:27:20How do you do, Father?
00:27:20Brother Alphonsus.
00:27:21Did you come all the way from Rome and that flying machine?
00:27:24Did you hear what Brother Alphonsus wants to know?
00:27:28That's a helicopter, Alphonsus.
00:27:29It couldn't fly all the way from Rome.
00:27:32Father Daniel.
00:27:33Father Matthew.
00:27:35Our master of notices.
00:27:36What notices?
00:27:38I'm Jack of all trades and master of knowledge.
00:27:40I believe so.
00:27:41Is Father Kinsella from Rome?
00:27:42I know he's from Rome.
00:27:44Indeed we all do.
00:27:45You are here because of the wonderful store masses on the mainland.
00:27:47Do you know that we had six charter flights from Boston and New York last month?
00:27:51Brother Paul.
00:27:52Brother.
00:27:53What are you saying, Father?
00:27:54I was saying that I hope that you will not try to change our ways.
00:27:58What do you mean?
00:27:59The mass, Father.
00:28:01I will be honest with you.
00:28:02It will be a crime if we are prevented from doing this holy work.
00:28:05I will hate.
00:28:07My deputy, Father Walter.
00:28:09Father Walter.
00:28:09There you go.
00:28:10Father.
00:28:11Father, consider it.
00:28:12Now you sit on my right and Walter, you sit on his other side.
00:28:17Then he'll be surrounded by the morgue I understand.
00:29:20For more information, visit www.fema.gov
00:29:50Amen.
00:29:58May we have a word with you, Father?
00:30:00Father Concella and I have much to discuss.
00:30:02We'll go up to my parlor now, Father Cappuccino.
00:30:04We haven't had a chance to meet our visitor.
00:30:06Affairs of state, Father. Work before play.
00:30:09This way, please.
00:30:10May I not just ask him one thing?
00:30:12Good night, Father Matthew.
00:30:14Get excited.
00:30:15You know what they call you?
00:30:17The Inquisitor.
00:30:19I'm hardly that.
00:30:20That's a good one, isn't it?
00:30:22But what if you have a case of heresy on your hands?
00:30:25As the general's man, you have the power to act against us, don't you?
00:30:29Oh, look, this is the end of the 20th century, not the beginning of the 13th.
00:30:32I mean, how can we even define a case of heresy today?
00:30:36I'll define this one for you.
00:30:38Yesterday's orthodoxy is today's heresy.
00:30:41But, Father Abbott, we're merely trying to create a uniform posture within the church.
00:30:46If everybody decides to worship in his own way, obviously that will create this unity.
00:30:51And a dish of tea.
00:30:54All right.
00:30:55Milk and sugar.
00:30:56No, black's fine.
00:30:58All right.
00:30:59Explanations, as the Father General calls.
00:31:03Where shall I begin?
00:31:05Did you know Ireland was the only country in the world where, once upon a time, every Catholic went to Mass for Sunday?
00:31:13Everyone.
00:31:14Even the men.
00:31:15That's impressive.
00:31:16Until the time of Pope John, that was, when the new Mass came in.
00:31:20Well, we were like everybody else.
00:31:23We obeyed orders, went over to the mainland, and said the new Mass in English.
00:31:27And the people stopped coming to church.
00:31:30Oh, some women.
00:31:32But the men and the boys stood outside smoking.
00:31:35So, I was worried.
00:31:36I said to the monks, what on earth are we doing if we cannot persuade the people to come back into the church?
00:31:42It's the priest's job to keep their faith in Almighty God, and I don't want to tamper with their faith.
00:31:48So, I decided we'd go back and say the old Mass in the old way, and, well, that's the whole story.
00:31:57Well, hardly.
00:31:59This spring, you had 20 charter flights from Europe alone, plus pilgrimage groups from the United States and Canada.
00:32:04So large, in fact, that no church could hold the crowds.
00:32:07So, you set up shop on a big scale up on Coombe Mountain, which in Cromwell's time was associated with rebellion.
00:32:12Mass was set in secret by outlawed priests, with some member of the congregation as lookout.
00:32:17Hmm.
00:32:18Yet that was a mistake, but at the time I didn't see the connection.
00:32:21I just wanted to accommodate the crowds.
00:32:24But you accepted a gift of loudspeakers from the local merchants here.
00:32:28The people couldn't hear the service.
00:32:30It's customary to accept gifts that aim at enhancing worship.
00:32:35And, uh, private confessions, Father Abbott, is that another accommodation?
00:32:40The people here are very conservative.
00:32:42But you know as well as I that private confessions are no longer permitted,
00:32:46except in cases where the sin is so grave that special counsel is required.
00:32:50But what am I to do?
00:32:52The people here still think it's a special sin to molest a child or take another man's wife, all that sort of thing.
00:32:59What am I to do if the people still believe that sin is mortal to the soul?
00:33:06I know it must be difficult for you to accept, Father Abbott.
00:33:10But the idea of Catholics confessing their sins to a priest in private is very distasteful to other groups within our ecumenical brotherhood.
00:33:16And now that the new and easier form has been sanctioned by Vatican IV.
00:33:20Well, you've read the debate, surely.
00:33:22Yes, agreed.
00:33:23I know I'm out of step, but that's not the reason why you're here.
00:33:27You know why I'm here.
00:33:28You know what's happening here.
00:33:30Mount Coombe has become a place of international religious pilgrimage.
00:33:34You mean a sort of Lourdes?
00:33:36As Lourdes was before it was closed down, yes.
00:33:39We're not like Lourdes.
00:33:41There are no miracles here.
00:33:44You went there once, didn't you?
00:33:47A long time ago, yes.
00:33:49After Lourdes, when you journeyed on to Rome, you asked for a meeting with our spiritual director there.
00:33:57You said that what you had seen at Lourdes had caused you to have some religious doubts.
00:34:01It's a long time ago.
00:34:02It's irrelevant to this discussion.
00:34:05Well, there could be a connection.
00:34:07Some men compensate for former doubts by an excessive devotion.
00:34:10There is a file on me in Rome?
00:34:13Well, the order tries to keep complete personnel records.
00:34:17You know that.
00:34:18Listen, I'll be frank.
00:34:20We've just learned that now an American network is planning a special program on your mass here,
00:34:24and Father General is very worried.
00:34:26So that's it?
00:34:28Well, why didn't you say so?
00:34:30I can ban the telepeople.
00:34:32No trouble at all.
00:34:33Even the President of the United States can't ban American television.
00:34:36I can refuse to have them filming on Holy Ground.
00:34:39No.
00:34:40If you do that, you may lend this a significance you never intended.
00:34:43You see, what's happening here is being interpreted by some commentators as the first stirrings of a Catholic counter-revolution.
00:34:49Ah, sure, that's nonsense.
00:34:50The Church is one body, Father Abbott.
00:34:53What one part does affects the whole.
00:34:55How I envy you.
00:34:57It must be rewarding to be like you, to feel you can change something in a world like ours.
00:35:06Next month, the first World Congress of Christian and Buddhist faiths will meet in Bangkok, and Father General has been chosen as president of that meeting.
00:35:14Now, any scandal about our order at this time could be fatal to the success of that meeting.
00:35:19A powerful faction is already in opposition.
00:35:21The Pungi demonstrations in Singapore last month were the beginnings of that opposition.
00:35:25Now do you see what I'm talking about?
00:35:27All I see is that because some Congress is going on at the other end of the world, we have to give up the old mass here on Mount Coombe.
00:35:35It makes you wonder, what does the mass mean nowadays?
00:35:41In Rome, what does it mean?
00:35:44Well, religion has been opened up everywhere.
00:35:47The individual conscience is very important.
00:35:49Things are much more free.
00:35:50Free, did you say?
00:35:52Look, you are an abbot with the powers of a bishop.
00:35:56I needn't explain the importance for the seniors in our order to act in concert and set an example.
00:36:02I asked you a question about the mass.
00:36:05I don't think you answered me, Father.
00:36:12The Vatican maintains that it's no longer obligatory for Catholics to believe that the bread and wine on the altar are actually changed into the body and blood of Christ, except symbolically.
00:36:23I mean, it's no longer necessary to think of God as actually being present there in the tabernacle.
00:36:29So, a man doesn't need a big dose of faith anymore?
00:36:35I'm sorry?
00:36:37Nothing.
00:36:38So, unless I abandon the Latin mass, I will be disciplined, is that it?
00:36:46I wish you wouldn't put it quite that way.
00:36:48What other way is there to put it?
00:36:50I'd like to know what powers you have.
00:36:54Well, in, shall we say, a situation of deadlock, I am empowered to order your immediate transfer and to install an acting abbot in your place.
00:37:07Sounds like the old days.
00:37:09There's a great deal at stake here, Father Abbott. I hope we won't be forced to invoke such serious measures.
00:37:16I hope so, too.
00:37:20You don't seem to be well up on the new ecumenical rule of the World Council of Churches, Father.
00:37:28The rule?
00:37:29If I choose to appeal to the Amsterdam Council, I cannot be transferred until the appeal is heard.
00:37:36That might take several months.
00:37:39In the meantime, there'd be a lot of publicity.
00:37:43Possibly.
00:37:44I might even become the first martyr in that counter-revolution you were talking about.
00:37:51I am sorry I overlooked the question of an appeal to the ecumenical council.
00:37:58Well, if I were in your shoes, maybe I'd have done the same thing myself.
00:38:03However, as I do have that leeway...
00:38:11Excuse me, Father Abbott. When may I hope to have an answer for Father General?
00:38:16We'll talk about that tomorrow.
00:38:22Martin, I'll show you to your quarters.
00:38:26Father Abbott?
00:38:27Martin, Father Kinsella's going to bed.
00:38:30Bring a light along for the road. He's not a night cat like yourself.
00:38:34Yeah, do that, Father Abbott.
00:38:38Didn't you eat the biscuits, then?
00:38:41Try a lemon pot. They're first class.
00:38:47I'll pick you up at eight.
00:38:49Good night.
00:38:51Good night, Father Abbott.
00:39:00Good night.
00:39:01Good night.
00:39:06Here.
00:39:07Father Kinsella.
00:39:08Yeah.
00:39:09There's a telephone call for you.
00:39:10Oh, thank you.
00:39:11It's all right, Martin. I'll take him to bed.
00:39:12Thank you, Kevin.
00:39:14Oh, it's Weston Helicopters. Your pilots calling from Dinkum.
00:39:21Hello? Kinsella here.
00:39:22Yes, Father. I called earlier.
00:39:24There's a holliver storm moving up from the coast of Spain.
00:39:27Unless you get out tomorrow morning, you could be locked in for days.
00:39:31I see. Well, look, I don't know when I can leave here.
00:39:36Tell you what, I'll call you before 9 tomorrow morning.
00:39:40Can you be ready to come in if I give the word?
00:39:42Surely, Father.
00:39:43Grant. I'll see you soon, I hope. Thank you for calling.
00:39:47Do priests from Rome not dress like priests anymore?
00:39:51Oh, no. Only on special occasions.
00:39:55You're one of those new priests, aren't you? The revolutionaries.
00:40:00Are you interested in that?
00:40:02Tell me, is it true, in South America, some priests are overthrowing the government?
00:40:08Yes, they are.
00:40:10How can they be doing the likes of that?
00:40:12Why not? The early Christians were revolutionaries, remember?
00:40:16What has that got to do with saving souls for God?
00:40:19Everything. Do you know that in places like South America, young priests our age are dying for the causes of social justice?
00:40:25What are they doing being priests?
00:40:28You know, if I wanted to join the IRA, I'd have joined the IRA. But I joined the church.
00:40:33So the church can be a powerful instrument of change. It can lead the revolution that people will follow. We have enormous influence.
00:40:39You know, that's trite. Look at the people over there on the mainland. They don't want your social justice. They want the old mass. They want to believe in something. Something more than this world can offer them.
00:40:52Well, what do you offer, Father?
00:40:54Well, perhaps a better life, Father, not pie in the sky.
00:40:57But you're a priest. That's not your job. They want you to forgive them their sins. To baptize them. Marry them. Bury them. Show them there's a God above them. A God who cares about them.
00:41:09Well, the old parish priest knew that. You don't.
00:41:12I'm afraid you're wrong. You're out of step. Unless we alter our image, we'll lose the people. Times have changed.
00:41:17Yes, they have. And you and the likes of you are destroying the church, in my opinion.
00:41:22Well, what may I ask do you know about it, Father? You're stuck away here in this God-forsaken island. What do you know about what's happening out there in the world?
00:41:28You know, I do have eyes in my head. I see the people on Mount Coombe on a Sunday morning. I've seen them myself, Father.
00:41:35Well, you didn't know you had visitors.
00:41:38Is it my turn?
00:41:40Yes. I'll just spell it here for you.
00:41:43I'm supposed to see Father Kinsella to his quarters.
00:41:45Oh, no, no. Look, if you have some work to do, don't let me hold you up. I can find my way back.
00:41:50No, it's not work. I'm going to the church. We're praying all night to save the Mass.
00:41:56I see. And, uh, who are we?
00:42:02Some of the monks. That's our way of trying to change things. Prayer.
00:42:09May I come with you?
00:42:12Why not?
00:42:14God.
00:42:21God!
00:42:22God!
00:42:23God!
00:42:25God!
00:42:26God!
00:42:27God!
00:42:28God!
00:43:01So you're in on this.
00:43:27You have good news for us, I hope, tomorrow.
00:43:28I have no news. I asked you a question.
00:43:31Yes. I am the ringleader.
00:43:34Oh, no, you're not.
00:43:36Having a life your sins will not help whatever foolish aim you have in mind.
00:43:40You know very well what I have in mind.
00:43:42It's what we all have in our minds.
00:43:43Is it? Do you know my mind?
00:43:45But asking God's help isn't a sin.
00:43:49Breaking the law of obedience is.
00:43:52Tomas, you aren't going to be vexed with us, are you?
00:43:54I'm very disappointed in you, Walter.
00:43:57Now, I want you to go out there and get them all off to bed at once.
00:44:00So our prayers have been answered.
00:44:02Well, nothing of the sort.
00:44:04We've work to do here in the fields and in the abbey.
00:44:07The mackerel running on all the nets out.
00:44:10We live by work here.
00:44:13I've told you a hundred times we're not a contemplative order.
00:44:15But this is a case where only the power of prayer can help.
00:44:19You cannot run a monastic community like a holiday camp, Walter.
00:44:25People taking it into their heads to stay up half the night without as much as a buy or a win to leave.
00:44:29I asked everyone here to behave as usual while this visitor was here.
00:44:33I'm very disappointed, Walter.
00:44:37I am at fault, Father Abbott.
00:44:40But you're not the ringleaders.
00:44:41There's no use pretending you are.
00:44:44You are my deputy.
00:44:46And as my deputies who cannot obey orders, where am I?
00:44:51I'm sorry, Tomas.
00:44:53I'll get them off to bed.
00:44:55God bless you.
00:44:56Father Abbott says we must be.
00:45:11Father Abbott says we must be.
00:45:26And I want no holy vigils in cells, do you hear?
00:45:33The holiest thing every man, Jack, of you can do is to turn our pits to work in the morning.
00:45:56Father Abbott says we must be.
00:46:26Father Abbott, where are the others?
00:46:29What others?
00:46:31The vigil.
00:46:33What vigil?
00:46:35It is a vigil of devotion to Our Lady for the purpose of preserving the Latin Mass in Moncume.
00:46:40I'm here on the island of Morcay.
00:46:42The other monks have gone to bed.
00:46:45I have sent them to bed.
00:46:46Why did you do that, Father Abbott?
00:46:48Because I am in charge here.
00:46:51Father Matthew, it is now some time since I've had to rebuke you.
00:46:55The last thing I want is to reopen our disagreements of former days.
00:47:00But there is work to be done tomorrow.
00:47:03You will please go to your bed.
00:47:06I have made a solemn promise to Our Lady to hold a vigil in her honor this night.
00:47:09When you were ordained as a monk, you made a solemn promise to God to obey your superiors.
00:47:18Go to bed.
00:47:19May I ask then, Father Abbott, what is your decision about the continuance of the Latin Mass on Moncume?
00:47:26I have been informed by Rome that the Mass is now to be regarded as a symbolic ritual.
00:47:35That is heresy, pure and simple.
00:47:37Why is it heresy, Matthew?
00:47:39Because the Mass is the daily miracle of the Catholic faith.
00:47:42Bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
00:47:45Without that, what is the Church?
00:47:46So our belief in Jesus Christ and His Church depends upon a belief in miracles.
00:47:53Is that it, Matthew?
00:47:54Of course that is it.
00:47:56Saint Augustine said,
00:47:58I should not be a Christian but for the miracles.
00:48:01Without a miracle, Christ did not rise from His tomb and ascend into heaven.
00:48:05And without that, there would be no Christian touch.
00:48:07Our visitor brings us an order from our Father General in Rome.
00:48:14Would you obey that order if it instructed you to consider the Mass not as a miracle but simply as a pious ritual?
00:48:23If I be it for me to speak against my superiors.
00:48:26But I am ashamed to hear that talk coming from you and under God's roof.
00:48:31Are you now?
00:48:32But on the other hand, it seems you are not ashamed to act against the orders of your superior.
00:48:38Even to the point of organizing the other monks to disobedience.
00:48:41I do not consider that I have been disobedient to our rule.
00:48:45You were told there would be no special observances tonight.
00:48:49I acted according to my conscience, Father Abbott.
00:48:51Hold your tongue and go to your cell.
00:48:55I want you in front of the chapter at some time tomorrow to apologize for your behavior.
00:48:59I've had enough of you all these years, Matthew.
00:49:01Insolence and insubordination is against every vow you took when you became a monk.
00:49:06You should be ashamed.
00:49:10Since you asked me to apologize, Father Abbott, I humbly apologize.
00:49:17And since you ordered me to retire, I obey your order.
00:49:20I obey your order.
00:49:21I obey your order.
00:49:22I obey your order.
00:49:23I obey your order.
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00:49:40I obey your order.
00:49:41I obey your order.
00:49:43I obey your order.
00:49:44I obey your order.
00:49:45I obey your order.
00:50:17Faith of our fathers living still
00:50:22In spite of dungeon fire and storm
00:50:26Oh, how our hearts been high with joy
00:50:30Whene'er we hear that glorious word
00:50:35Faith of our fathers holding faith
00:50:39We will be cruel to each of death
00:50:44Of our fathers' shape in Britain's dark
00:50:49We're still in heart and conscience free
00:50:52How sweet would we let children stay
00:50:57If they might never die for me
00:51:01Faith of our fathers holding faith
00:51:06We will be cruel to each of death
00:51:11We will be cruel to each of death
00:51:15Will he not change us?
00:51:17Do you hear me?
00:51:18What do you think of human beings?
00:51:29Good morning, Father.
00:51:34Morning.
00:51:35Come on, and we'll put a bit of breakfast in here.
00:51:39Father Abbott was supposed to meet me here this morning.
00:51:43Ah, yes, well, he's been a bit delayed to see.
00:51:47Well, you know, there's a storm coming up.
00:51:50Well, let's go.
00:51:51Come on.
00:51:52Come on.
00:51:53Come on.
00:51:54Come on.
00:51:55Come on.
00:51:56Come on.
00:51:57Come on.
00:51:58If there's a storm coming up, I'll have to make a decision about the helicopter.
00:52:01Yes, that's right.
00:52:02Well, he knows all about that.
00:52:03Come on.
00:52:04Come on.
00:52:05Come on.
00:52:06Come on.
00:52:07Come on.
00:52:08Come on.
00:52:09Come on.
00:52:10Ah, good day.
00:52:11Good day.
00:52:12Morning.
00:52:13One egg or two.
00:52:15Oh, one's fine.
00:52:16Sit you down here, no.
00:52:18I'm going to play best in bed in general.
00:52:20For the business.
00:52:21No, no, no, no.
00:52:22Don't bother.
00:52:23I'm all right.
00:52:24I wish you'd try to find Father Abbott for me, please.
00:52:26Ah, yes.
00:52:27I'll leave it to your breakfast.
00:52:28Oh.
00:52:29Yes.
00:52:30There you are now.
00:52:31Oh.
00:52:32I hope you enjoyed that.
00:52:33I'm sure.
00:52:36I hope that egg is fresh.
00:52:38There are old hens here.
00:52:39They've not been laying well lately.
00:52:40Father Abbott.
00:52:41Brother Pius, if you please get back to your work.
00:52:42I am working.
00:52:43There's great curiosity here.
00:52:44There's great curiosity here.
00:52:45The wolves not only have ears, they have tons of fingers, they have tons of way.
00:52:50Come on, man.
00:52:51It's not funny.
00:52:52Well, that is funny, but I can't try to get away.
00:52:53No.
00:52:54We're trying to get away.
00:52:55We're trying to hide a place.
00:52:56I'm trying to get away with that.
00:52:57We're trying to win.
00:52:58Yes.
00:52:59No.
00:53:00I'm trying to get away.
00:53:01We're trying to get away.
00:53:02Father, brother Pius, if you please, get back to your work.
00:53:07I am working.
00:53:11There's great curiosity here.
00:53:13The wolves not only have ears, they have tongs as well.
00:53:17Well, shall we go outside?
00:53:19I'll finish your breakfast.
00:53:20It's all right, I'm not hungry.
00:53:22You know about the storm.
00:53:24You could be trapped here for days.
00:53:26A terrible fate for a go-getter like yourself.
00:53:30It's all right.
00:53:31I've ordered your helicopter.
00:53:32It'll be here within the hour.
00:53:34You ordered it.
00:53:36Brother Pius and brother Malachi, who's in there with you?
00:53:40Nobody in town, Malachi.
00:53:41Get back to your work, then.
00:53:45They're like wireless sets, all tuned in.
00:53:48Let's take a walk.
00:54:00Don.
00:54:01There are sins of avoidance.
00:54:04Sins of omission.
00:54:06Toines merely because of a matter of conscience to act.
00:54:08What about the sin of pride?
00:54:11Now look.
00:54:12Our poverty, our chastity, our obedience.
00:54:17Three small gifts that we've offered God when we became monks of this order.
00:54:21And now you're going to ask God, he'll give you back the last of these.
00:54:26Because we're doing holy work.
00:54:30Coming here in this helicopter, telling us to stop.
00:54:35No.
00:54:36No, he must go down there.
00:54:37Don't.
00:54:37You know, I think that God sends down more trials than you than he does than the rest of us.
00:54:43Because he knows that you want to prove your love for him.
00:54:47But perhaps he's testing you now.
00:54:50Asking you to wait.
00:54:51I'm not being willful.
00:54:55But surely I must do what I know is right.
00:54:59Surely my conscience doesn't lie to me.
00:55:01And does your conscience tell you that you must break our law of obedience?
00:55:08Well, God doesn't make slaves of us.
00:55:12Every one of us has the right to choose.
00:55:14And if you're sure that it's his will,
00:55:17that you go down there now and do whatever it is you're going to do,
00:55:21I certainly shan't stop you.
00:55:24Go on, then.
00:55:26Go on.
00:55:31Here is a letter of apology to Father General.
00:55:48I have not sealed it.
00:55:49You may read it if you wish.
00:55:50But last night, you said you felt you had no right to interfere with the beliefs of your congregation.
00:56:03I was in error.
00:56:06You promised to give up the Latin Mass at once, yet you give no reasons.
00:56:09And here is my letter of resignation.
00:56:12I've asked to be transferred to another monastery.
00:56:15Not as an abbot, but as an ordinary monk.
00:56:18But why?
00:56:18Is it because you're unwilling to carry out Father General's order?
00:56:22The order will be carried out at once.
00:56:25There will be no trouble.
00:56:27Well, what about the crowds on the mainland and the monks here?
00:56:29Of course there'll be trouble.
00:56:30We do not say the Latin Mass on the mainland.
00:56:32The people cannot attend it.
00:56:34As for the monks, I am their abbot.
00:56:36They will do as I tell them.
00:56:37But why do you want to resign?
00:56:40Because I was wrong.
00:56:41I had no right to tamper with people's faith.
00:56:44I think you're being too hard on yourself.
00:57:00Everybody makes mistakes, and yours were made with the best of intentions.
00:57:03Intentions don't count.
00:57:05Actions do.
00:57:06Remember Martin Luther?
00:57:09Insubordination is the beginning of the breakdown of the church.
00:57:12And I have been insubordinate.
00:57:14I don't believe that, Father Abbott.
00:57:15I, um, overheard you lecture Father Matthew last night on the vow of obedience.
00:57:22That was spoken from the heart.
00:57:24Well, it's easy to lecture others.
00:57:27In my own case, I've gone against the orders of my superiors.
00:57:30But there's no need for you to resign.
00:57:33You're a holy man and a good man, and you need it here.
00:57:36Your duty is here, as the abbot of Mork.
00:57:38No, I've come to the end of a long road.
00:57:41I disagree, Father Abbott.
00:57:42And as Father General's plenty potentiary, I order you to stay.
00:57:45You can tear this up.
00:57:48There's something I must explain to you.
00:57:51Your helicopter will be here in a few minutes.
00:57:53Let's go up and get your bag.
00:57:54We can talk on the way.
00:57:58I did not do this for holy reasons.
00:58:02I did it because I myself lack conviction.
00:58:06There's a file on me in Rome.
00:58:07There's a file about my visit to Luiz.
00:58:09You've read it?
00:58:10Yes, I have.
00:58:10But it doesn't explain.
00:58:12I'll tell you now what happened.
00:58:14I went there with two priests.
00:58:16We were on our way to Rome, and we stopped off to visit the shrine.
00:58:20A pious pilgrimage.
00:58:22The shrine of Our Lady at Lourdes in France.
00:58:25The place where the Virgin Mary was supposed to appear before an ignorant peasant girl.
00:58:29A place where people come from all over the world because they believe that God's mother will ask her son to cure them.
00:58:36Those poor, sick people.
00:58:39Blind children.
00:58:41Men without arms or legs.
00:58:43Dying women on stretchers.
00:58:45Every deformity.
00:58:47Every mortal ill.
00:58:48And all of them praying for a miracle, spending their life savings to get there.
00:58:55Oh, it's a sad, dreadful sight.
00:59:01I've stood at the shrine, Father, and something came over me.
00:59:05I went back to the hotel and shut myself up and knelt down and tried to pray.
00:59:15And I tried to pray.
00:59:19It's not the first time I've had this trouble.
00:59:25Even before Lourdes.
00:59:27Sometimes here on the island I've gone to church and started to say the Our Father.
00:59:32Our Father who art in heaven.
00:59:35But then I've looked at the altar and I know that there is no Father in heaven.
00:59:39That's a pitiful thought, don't you think?
00:59:43A man who became a monk with most of his life gone.
00:59:50Kneeling in church and staring at the altar and knowing that there is nothing on the altar but wafels of communion bread.
00:59:58Not God.
01:00:01Just pieces of bread.
01:00:02When that would happen, when the words were just words, I'd begin to tremble and shake as a prelude to hell.
01:00:14I suppose you'd call it a depression, I'd call it hell.
01:00:17An empty state.
01:00:19The hell of a priest deprived of God.
01:00:22And when I get into that state, it's, oh, it's weeks, it's months.
01:00:26I never know when I'm going to come out again.
01:00:29After Lourdes, it was nearly a year.
01:00:32So now I'm afraid to pray.
01:00:36You see, I don't know if I'll come out again.
01:00:44You don't pray, ever?
01:00:50No, not for a long time.
01:00:53Not for years.
01:00:56Oh, what about saying mass or your daily office?
01:01:00There's no one noticed?
01:01:00It's strange, but they don't.
01:01:04One can pretend a preference for private devotion.
01:01:07But public prayers, well, there are plenty of monks who'll lead them.
01:01:11Then why have you stayed?
01:01:13It's a hard life.
01:01:14You said so yourself.
01:01:16But it's my life.
01:01:17I'm a sort of foreman here, a sort of manager.
01:01:22It's not far different from a secular job.
01:01:26The monks work hard.
01:01:28I'm here to keep them together.
01:01:29See, they make a go of it.
01:01:31We're like children.
01:01:33It's a simple life.
01:01:35We passed the days as if there was an endless supply of them.
01:01:41So, you see, you didn't know what sort of a man you were asking to stay on his rabbit.
01:01:48You travel light.
01:02:16It's the best way.
01:02:19Let's go down to the field.
01:02:20I want to get you off before I face up to them.
01:02:22You're expecting trouble?
01:02:41No.
01:02:43The thing about being in charge is to be firm, like Father General and himself.
01:02:49By the way, what shall I say when the press and television people come around?
01:02:53You can refer all inquiries to me in Rome.
01:02:56I will do that.
01:02:56I will do that.
01:03:26Let me deal with them.
01:03:51Won't you say anything?
01:03:52Have you worked for us now, Father Abbott?
01:04:08Are the horses brought up from the lower field?
01:04:11They are.
01:04:12May I ask our visitor just one question?
01:04:15You may not.
01:04:16Let us pass.
01:04:18Let us pass.
01:04:35There is a holy man, but he's also very tiresome.
01:04:38There are those that can cause trouble, but there are also those who are troubled.
01:04:55Father Kinsella.
01:04:56When will you let me know of my replacement?
01:05:05When will you let me know of my replacement?
01:05:06So be it.
01:05:33All right, Father.
01:05:35Safe home, Father.
01:05:37Safe journey.
01:05:39Thank you, Father.
01:05:53We must change! You hear me?
01:06:03The End
01:06:07No, Father.
01:06:11The End
01:06:13No, Father.
01:06:15The End
01:06:17No, Father.
01:06:19THE END
01:06:49Father Abbott.
01:07:02Yes, Walter.
01:07:03Can you tell us now?
01:07:05The visitor is gone.
01:07:07Our visitor is gone.
01:07:08I am ashamed of you.
01:07:11Are we religious men or are we hooligans?
01:07:15I'm sorry, Father Abbott.
01:07:17I think we're all sorry.
01:07:19But can you tell us now what's going to happen?
01:07:22Yes, I can tell you now.
01:07:24We have had orders from Father General in Rome.
01:07:28From now on, the mass will be said in English in the new manner, the authors facing the congregation.
01:07:34I have written to Father General telling him we will do as he says.
01:07:39That is all.
01:07:40That is all?
01:07:41We have had our orders.
01:07:45It is up to all of us to carry them out to the best of our ability, isn't it?
01:07:50I'm sure we will do that, will we not?
01:07:53And the first thing we'll do is all of us get straight back to work now.
01:07:57Now, that is not the half of it, Father Abbott.
01:08:00Why have you not told the community what you told me last night?
01:08:04Last night, I told you to go to bed.
01:08:06Now, I tell you to go to work.
01:08:08You also told me we are no longer instructed to believe in the miracle of the mass.
01:08:12That is so.
01:08:14Then how can a thing be a miracle one day and not a miracle the next day?
01:08:17I don't know.
01:08:19Maybe you are a greater theologian than the Pope or the Vatican Council, Father Matthew.
01:08:24I am not.
01:08:25I am a monk, and I do as I am bid.
01:08:28No.
01:08:29No, no.
01:08:30Oh, Donald.
01:08:31It's blasphemy.
01:08:32No, no, no.
01:08:32Donald, no.
01:08:33You're not well.
01:08:33You're not just...
01:08:34It's blasphemy to come here.
01:08:35I don't know.
01:08:35Take control of yourself now.
01:08:36All of you will get back to work now.
01:08:38No, wait, wait.
01:08:38I will not be put off.
01:08:39It will not be ordered to believe something which I do not believe.
01:08:43No one can order a belief.
01:08:45It is a gift from God.
01:08:46No.
01:08:47What he's proposing is a denial of everything the mass stands for.
01:08:50Please.
01:08:54Let us go into the church.
01:09:09Let us go into the church.
01:09:38A miracle is when God comes here into this church a moment.
01:10:08But you said the opposite. You said the sacrifice of the Mass is just ritual, that the bread and wine remain bread and wine, that there are no miracles.
01:10:20Yes, prayer is the only miracle. We try to pray. If our words become prayer, God will come.
01:10:38Let us pray.
01:10:42Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
01:10:58Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
01:11:08Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
01:11:20And lead us not into temptation, and deliver us from evil. Amen.
01:11:32That's what we do.
01:11:44That's what we do.
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