00:00What was a pivotal moment where you transitioned into this television space, this media space?
00:05And was Kyle, because you used to assist for Kyle Richards, was she helpful in that transition?
00:11Or how did it all happen?
00:13I am very bad at asking for help.
00:17Like, I just need to figure it out myself.
00:20I'm not very good at it.
00:22I feel, like, embarrassed.
00:24So when I first started working for Kyle, if you notice in the first, like, four seasons of Real Housewives, I'm always in the background.
00:31I'm never in the foreground.
00:33A, I didn't want her to think, you know, oh, my God, I'm here for the camera time.
00:38But just being around her and in that orbit, when Real Housewives became, like, a thing, people wanted a piece of it, and they didn't know how to get it.
00:50So when I went to E, that was my cachet.
00:54She didn't even know she was helping me out.
00:56I was like, you know, I just, I worked for Kyle Richards for five years.
00:59I'm still in the fold.
01:00I'm at the dinner party from hell.
01:02You know, I'm sitting in the dinner party from hell.
01:05So I would show up once or twice a season, and it just kept my name in the conversation.
01:12So she didn't directly help me.
01:14But indirectly?
01:15Yeah, indirectly.
01:16That's so cool.
01:17And did you end up, like, thanking her later, being like, girl, like, this is all kind of happened because of you.
01:21He was just helping her with her tree.
01:22Which is so crazy that you're still so involved in her life.
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