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00:00In 2016, snapped killer couples told the story of Danielle Hudson and Chaz Blackshear,
00:07a young couple whose lives took a deadly turn with a series of violent crimes.
00:14You had fear within the Houston community because these two murders were back-to-back.
00:21I was killing the whole situation.
00:24She was lost for the shoot.
00:25Following his conviction for murder, Chaz Blackshear sought to clear Danielle's name.
00:36Now, Chaz Blackshear returns to talk about the man he was and the perspective he's formed after 15 years behind bars and separated from Danielle.
01:02I was easily influenced behind the wrong reasons.
01:07I led her wrong. I led myself wrong.
01:13And for the first time, Danielle Hudson sits down for an exclusive interview and reveals her role in the crimes.
01:23I didn't know that my decision would cause as much damage.
01:27She's gotten to a place where, at this point, what good does it do with a lot?
01:34I'm truly sorry that these tragic events had to happen, and I'm willing to take full responsibility.
01:40I'm sorry about what I'm keeping the case.
01:43I'm sorry about how to deal with the injuries.
01:43I'm not sorry about the injuries.
01:45I'm sorry about how to deal with the injuries.
01:50But I don't know what I'm doing to say to the injuries, because I'm hopeless.
01:50I'm sorry about how to deal with the injuries.
01:51I've been there as much of the injuries that I am.
02:03My name is Danielle Hudson.
02:05I'm choosing to do this interview, because I feel like it's time for my side of the story to be able to deal with a relationship.
02:06I'm choosing to do this interview because I feel like it's time for my side of the story to be out there.
02:11It's like something just kept, like, pulling me to do it.
02:16I'm really, I'm not, like, a bad person. I just made up a lot of bad decisions because of the situation I was in.
02:24I was so stuck on, like, wanting love that I let me wanting love cloud my judgment.
02:36My name is Chaz Blackshear. I decided to do this interview because the first time I was interviewed by Snap, I was a different person than who I am now.
02:47I was young, dumb, in pain, immature, every bad name you can think of, but I destroyed two families that didn't deserve it.
02:58My love was so open and my loyalty was so strong, I was easily influenced behind the wrong reasons.
03:06At the time, we was very in love. Now that I've grown, I really wouldn't say I was in love because when you're really in love with somebody, you wouldn't let them do what happened between us, you know?
03:18You would try to steer them on a better path.
03:21Sometimes people feel like that's how they prove their love to other people, by being loyal to a fault where there's no boundary at all.
03:29He was willing to do anything and everything for her. Even where she should have been accountable, he removed the accountability for her.
03:35They could have used their energy for something so much better, but they didn't.
03:43October 12th, 2010. Authorities in Houston receive a concerning 911 call from a utility worker who has just discovered a body.
03:54He had been shot twice and rolled down a drainage ditch.
04:05The detectives at the scene, they have this body that has been rolled down a hill as if it's a piece of trash.
04:11His pants pockets were turned inside out. Pockets being turned inside out, people are looking for something.
04:19Detectives determined the victim was shot in the chest and head. A passport in his back pocket identifies the man as 32-year-old Mohamed El-Sayed.
04:34Detectives contact Mohamed's family to inform them of his death.
04:39This is a family man with small children.
04:42While in the middle of their grieving, the detectives get exposed to who Mohamed El-Sayed was.
04:49It's there that we learn that Mohamed was a cab driver. He works hard.
04:54Did he want to be a cab driver the rest of his life? No, he was in school, but he was also working.
05:00Working hard, trying to provide a living for his wife and kids.
05:04According to his devastated family, Mohamed left for his shift in his taxi cab the night before, but he never made it home.
05:15He didn't show up. He hadn't made phone calls.
05:18So there was a concern that something had happened to him.
05:23The only thing we're missing is the cab.
05:28Detectives immediately put out a bulletin on Mohamed's cab.
05:32The cab was then discovered hours later, back on the west side of town.
05:39And what was inside this cab?
05:42Two shell casings.
05:44Three 80 casings.
05:46Papers strewn.
05:48The glove box open.
05:51As part of the follow-up investigation, we made contact with the actual yellow cab company.
05:58And their security department.
06:02It's there that we learned that, yes, they can be able to isolate and tell us what was the last call that Mohamed Al-Sayed was dispatched to.
06:13But not only that, they would have a recording.
06:16A recording of the actual phone call that came in to the call center.
06:20So we immediately obtained the actual physical tape of the suspect calling in.
06:30Asking to be picked up.
06:32You okay, this is Sean, can I help you?
06:36Hello, um, could I have a cab to, um, 1905, um, dead ass shit?
06:42All right.
06:43Can I get a name?
06:45Shantae.
06:46After listening to the tapes and the name Shantae, we knew we had to find her.
06:53So one of the first ways to find Shantae was to trace the number.
07:01And it was all traced a few hundred yards west at a 7-Eleven at one of the phone booths.
07:08My partner and I, we travel out to that convenience store and we meet with the clerk.
07:15It was a gift.
07:177-Eleven, that convenience store, they would have video.
07:21Detectives note the timing of the call lines up with that of the surveillance footage.
07:27Right there on video, we see a black female with a young black male, thin.
07:33We had them.
07:35We just didn't know who it is and who was this couple making that phone call.
07:47Then on October 14th, a Houston police patrol officer calls in another gruesome discovery.
07:54A night shift patrol officer notices that there's some kind of almost like a fog, a glow coming from a parking lot.
08:04And so he's drawn to that and he pulls up and he sees that it's a vehicle.
08:10Not just a vehicle, but a yellow cab that seems to have been burned.
08:13And as this patrol officer steps out of his car, he gets closer and closer.
08:19Sure enough, that's where he finds the driver of the yellow cab.
08:26He's strapped into this cab almost halfway in, halfway out, trying to get away.
08:32So we're able to confirm that he was shot on the right side of the head.
08:40Not only did you have a combination of fresh human flesh, burnt smell.
08:47You also had the material of the vehicle, but also a distinct smell of gasoline.
08:52It's an accelerant.
08:57People believe that fire destroys evidence and fire can destroy evidence, but not always.
09:04The glove box is open.
09:06It appears things have been disheveled.
09:09Papers on the floor.
09:11Somebody's looking for something.
09:13And in this case, we believed it was money.
09:15Forensic technicians lift multiple sets of fingerprints from inside the cab
09:19and find shell casings that appear to match the 380 casings found in the first cab.
09:27I'd let science in our lab do the official connection.
09:32But I knew from an investigative standpoint, these murders were connected.
09:41Police identify the second victim from his driver's license found in his pocket.
09:46He was identified as Blaise Noka Naka.
09:50Again, it's a person with a family and people who loved him.
09:57Detectives contact the cab company, requesting the call for Blaise's ride.
10:03They receive a copy in minutes.
10:04Thanks for calling, Yellow Cam.
10:05How may I help you?
10:07Uh, yes.
10:09I'm putting this, uh, a cab over here.
10:119,000.
10:12David Ashton.
10:13What is your name?
10:14Uh, I'm Chad.
10:16Your name is what?
10:17Chad.
10:18Chad?
10:19Yeah.
10:21Detectives determine that the call for Blaise's ride was made from a gas station payphone
10:26right down the street from the location of the first victim's ride request.
10:31We have two phone booths.
10:34One at the corner of Derry Ashford and Whittington.
10:37And then one just a little bit further west.
10:40And another gas station.
10:42Not huge walks.
10:43Maybe a quarter of a mile at most between the two.
10:47These are people who are on foot.
10:49Our suspects, they're walking.
10:52This is their neighborhood.
10:54We could be put away for a long time.
10:57So in my mind, my initial thought was, like, fear.
11:00But then, like, I over it.
11:02I'm like, okay, I mean, whatever happens, happens.
11:06I know that sounds bad, but that's, like, what I thought.
11:10Within 48 hours, we've had two yellow cab drivers murdered.
11:15So what did we have?
11:16Did we have a serial killer?
11:18We're worried.
11:19We're very nervous that the pace of the killings are going to pick up.
11:24We didn't know what was next.
11:28Coming up, with the suspects at large, the stakes get higher.
11:33This is two lives that's been lost.
11:34So in my mind, I'm like, what if he comes for me next?
11:38And authorities pinpoint their location.
11:40They came, kicked the door down.
11:45It was guns everywhere.
11:48I remember just feeling like it was the end.
11:50福ising the captured by Councillor Candon.
12:02In October 2010, Houston Police are investigating the murders of two local cab drivers within 48 hours of one another.
12:13within 48 hours of one another you had fear within the Houston community
12:19because these two murders were back to back there's a sense of urgency that
12:25takes that just catches fire at that point at the scene of the burned-out cab
12:30of blaze wakanaka detectives discover security cameras pointing directly at
12:36the crime scene when they review the footage they are stunned to find clear
12:42images of their suspects we went up to the security office and we watched it
12:48we were amazed it shows a yellow cab pulling up in the early morning hours you
12:55can see a little light on because the door has been open then there's a flash
12:59and then there's a female that gets out of the passenger side of the vehicle and
13:06she's clearly talking to somebody I remember Chas told me to get out he told
13:10me to get out and go check the building and I did that she then walks in the
13:15parking lot and she stares straight at the camera and it's then that she starts to
13:22run she's in a full sprint a huge flash the cab is now been caught on fire and so
13:31the brightness of the initial flames being lit and then you see a thin black male running behind the
13:41female the cab was already going up in flames and I just remember kept running
13:46while detectives wait for a fingerprint match from blaze's car the crime lab confirms that the
13:57casings from both taxi cabs are from the same 380 gun it was a cobra 380 and in the city of Houston out
14:08of all the crimes that took place there was only one theft report involving a cobra 380 and that one
14:17report showed that that particular 380 was stolen by a young man and a young female the homeowner allowed
14:26them to live with him for a little bit and after a disagreement and he put them out and said they
14:34could no longer stay with them he noticed that his weapon was missing the owner of the stolen gun not
14:43only filed a police report he gave physical descriptions and names danielle hudson and
14:50chas blackshear the minute I looked at the names and the descriptions literally the hair on the back of
15:01my neck stood up this is them I call our latent print people and I say I have a suspect chas blackshear he goes well
15:11that's who this print belongs to we just found it I almost fell out of my seat based on the general
15:18description I'm fairly confident that danielle hudson she's the girl in the video
15:24chas's fingerprints are a match in the system from a drug possession arrest just months earlier
15:34we're able to immediately obtain an arrest warrant a pocket warrant for chas blackshear
15:42by having an arrest warrant we're able to bring in our federal partners the united states marshal service
15:51and their violent offenders task force and what they're able to do is they have a whole team of
15:58guys that can hunt and track cell phones so we provided them with the cell phone number of chas
16:07blackshear and as soon as we went quote live on chas blackshear's phone it brought us back to that same
16:15location off of dairy ashford and whittington between those two phone booths and then no signal it went
16:24dead we found out chas had no more minutes he couldn't use his phone well a very sharp u.s marshal been
16:32in the business a long time i'll take care of it he put some minutes on chas's phone
16:39and right away chas fired up his phone and the marshals were able to not just find where chas was
16:46but pinpoint the exact department on october 15th three days into the investigation a swat team descends
16:59on chas's location because of the brutality of the crime and any time you make an arrest there's always
17:06concern for safety and that's why the arrest of chas is not taken lightly i mean we're talking tactical
17:15helmets tactical gear rifles pistols out real coordination to prevent any kind of safety issues
17:25involved to not just the officers but the people that might be in the apartment
17:33i remember i was sitting on the floor of the apartment me and chas and my son and then just
17:38all of a sudden out of the blue the phone turned back on the phone rang they said they asked for
17:44somebody but i don't know i don't remember the name that they asked for and i was like who
17:48and by the time i said that they hung up so which gave them enough time for the location
17:52to come find us and then like right after that the swat came in i remember that night uh they came
18:00kicked the door down it was guns everywhere it was just like okay this is happening and they took me
18:09to uh questioning that's when i was like damn this is like this is for real
18:28on october 15th 2010 danielle hudson and chas blackshear have been transported to the houston
18:36police department for questioning in the brutal murders of local cab drivers mohammed el sayed and
18:43blaze wakanaka we end up on the sixth floor at 1200 travis the houston homicide headquarters and we have
18:52danielle in one interview room and chas in the next interview room the time is approximately 9 50 p.m it is
19:02october 15th 2010 and in the room with me is chas and what's your last name chas blackshear blackshear
19:14chas revealed that he had been in the navy had prior military service was from the dallas area
19:22extremely intelligent and sharp he wasn't your typical street person
19:33i did have a pretty hard-going childhood i was adopted but before that my mother was addicted to drugs
19:43chas didn't know his dad and mom ended up in prison but fortunately for chas he ended up staying with a
19:49nice family which was his uncle who also had their own children now trying to fit in with them i'm also
19:57trying to be who who i feel like i am outside of the house so with my mind is at a tug of war so
20:05i never really found my place
20:08after high school chas joined the navy honestly i joined the military to run to escape i was running
20:23from life for what i knew i wanted to get away be on my own and not have to worry about nobody telling me
20:29what to do so i thought just two years later chas was discharged for behavioral misconduct
20:37that went sideways because i didn't have the maturity for that a lot of people say the military
20:41makes a man uh i'm living proof that he will not so i just got discharged right so i was in dallas
20:51for a little bit probably about four or five months me and my older cousin was running a smoke shop
20:56in oak cliff but that really wasn't doing enough i guess you could say
21:05my grandmother the whole side of family lives in houston so my mother and my grandmother had the
21:09idea well why don't you move to houston you always talked about it you always wanted to well now's the
21:15time so i made the decision to live in houston i was happy when he moved to houston that way i can
21:22get to bond with him be around him more talk with him more i met danielle when i was hustling my cousin
21:31erica had a friend and and it was her well danielle she was already pretty much with me staying with me
21:40my cousin chas lost his apartment he ended up staying with me that's how they linked up
21:46i felt like we were both looking for a sense of belonging and love and we're fighting within
21:52each other every time when i come home from hustling or come home from just being in the streets and
21:59she's there it felt like a home what i thought a home should be and i had never felt like that with anyone
22:06just five months into their relationship danielle and chas are suspects in a double homicide
22:17in an interrogation room detectives confront chas about the murder of mohammed el sayed
22:24on october 12th so i want you to go back to wednesday 9 10 o'clock around in there nighttime
22:30basically and i want you to start telling me what uh what you and danielle danielle were doing
22:37we watched the movie i don't know we ain't go nowhere till about maybe 11. well i don't remember
22:43because we had collared calves okay and where did y'all go where did you tell him to tell y'all
22:49where did you tell him to take us to the steeples where's that the steeples is like right down the
22:54street okay uh we wanted him to take to take us to the steeples but we didn't have enough a cab for
23:00so he went halfway and uh we told him to drop us off at the stop sign so we can go ahead and walk
23:06with us away because it wasn't that far so we were the head and uh broke back over but chas insists they
23:12were just customers he just took us to the stop sign we ain't seen him saying didn't make any sense
23:19though what is the coincidence that the two cabs that they just happen to be customers and we have
23:25two dead drivers detectives confront chas with the physical evidence in both mohammed el sayed and
23:35blaze wakanaka's murders i'm gonna be straightforward with you um we've got three video cameras on that
23:43building and all three of those video cameras capture you and daniella and what you all did in the parking
23:54lot okay right that couldn't have been us because i told you where we went well it is you i did not we
24:06did not kill anybody honestly i can't even think of the mind frame i was in all i know i didn't want to
24:13get in trouble for it with chas refusing to cooperate detectives shift their attention to his
24:20girlfriend danielle right now i have no charges against you do you understand that what i'd like
24:27to do is for you first of all tell me about chas and i stayed with him and we've been with
24:34chas for like five months okay tell me about what happened they kept asking me like what happened what
24:41happened i kept saying i don't know and they left and then they came back and that's when they read
24:48me my rights there's been a series of events that have gone on are you familiar with what i'm talking
24:53about she initially started talking bit by bit i did not think i would get in trouble i know that sounds
25:03really dumb but i did not think that at all because i was like well i'm not going to pull the trigger
25:23on october 15 2010 houston detectives are interviewing 21 year old danielle hudson
25:31after evidence points at her and her boyfriend chas blackshear as the primary suspects in the murders of
25:38two local cab drivers
25:42the severity of it didn't like just hit me yet i just wanted to go home and take care of my son
25:50originally from colorado danielle had a rocky upbringing my grandmother raised me my parents wasn't
25:58stable enough so she took me i have a brother so she took me and him in and she raised us
26:05we were like 12 years old when i met danielle 12 13 we lived in the same apartment she lived with her
26:12grandma i lived with my grandmother i really didn't have like a lot of guidance so like
26:18i just chose to be in the streets and just doing whatever i wanted to do
26:23at the age of 20 danielle became a single mom
26:30i felt like it was my my new beginning of to give my son something that i never had when i had my son
26:39it was a very beautiful experience danielle's future with her son seemed even brighter
26:45after her friend erica introduced her to 21 year old chas blackshear
26:55like he always wanted me to know what my worth was and he always would i tell
26:59me you're beautiful like you deserve this and and not only like him and my son they had like a very great connection
27:07money was the biggest challenge in our relationship because we didn't have enough to like
27:12buy food and pay bills and stuff like that had they had money been able to take care of themselves
27:20this situation probably wouldn't have happened
27:26in an interrogation room detectives asked danielle to explain what happened to mohammed el sayed
27:33on the night of october 12th chas told me he said that we'll call the cab and he thought he was just
27:41going to jack to me danielle tells detectives that after the cab arrived she and chas got in only
27:51moments later chas pulled the gun on the driver and ordered him to stop in a dark alley i heard him
27:59cop the gun and so that's when he was like um open the door and i opened the door and that's when he told
28:07the cab driver put the car in front you come to the back and he was like he told me he said you
28:15get in the first seat and you drive and so that's when the cab driver got to the back i got out and i
28:21got to the front and so i started driving
28:26she talked about how the cab driver himself was begging and pleading that he was a father and a
28:33father please don't do this okay where does he shoot him i don't know i didn't see where he's
28:39shooting because i'm driving i just heard the loud gun sound
28:45i remember telling him like that was innocent person everything is like just happening fast
28:51so i stopped right here and he told me turn off the car and turn off the lights
28:55i did and that's when um he went to pull the man out he was kicking them down the hill
29:04and the man rolled into the body
29:10i mean that happens there then where do you go with the cab
29:14he told me to park the car on the side street right there with the u-haul things okay and to leave
29:20the car whatever and when when i got out he wiped out everything i remember going in the club department
29:27and getting the water out okay and how much money did you get out of there it wasn't no money in there
29:37danielle tells detectives that two nights later they repeated chaz's scheme
29:42so we walked to melero um and we called the cab waiting for the cab to come we got in the cab
29:51he told him to turn right there so he turned down that street he had the man to stop or whatever chaz
29:57told me he said he said get out the cab driver was like what are y'all up to and i was still outside of
30:04the cat when he caught the gun and so i guess that's when the cab driver you know heard him caught the
30:11gun so he went to reach him for his seat belt to um get out the cab and that's when chaz shot him
30:21but i didn't know that he was going to put it on fire i started running that's after the gunshots
30:26i didn't know he was going to set the car on fire danielle's story lines up with the evidence
30:32except for one critical detail why if she thought it was just going to be a robbery
30:39would anybody bring accelerant with him to a scene of a robbery
30:47but how much money did he get from this cabin driver or something i think one and where was that
30:53money in the red pocket in the end do you have any responsibility for what's going on what do you
31:01think you could have done to separate yourself more from this situation when he talked to you about
31:11robbing the first cab driver what was the first thing you could have done said no that's not a good
31:16idea okay when you know people carry guns can bad things happen yes
31:23she painted the picture that she was deathly afraid that if she didn't do what he told her to do
31:31that she would be killed or her children would be harmed but as she told the story story didn't
31:38make sense as far as her fear because she seemed very comfortable explaining what happened
31:44extremely comfortable at the time i could have said it was only supposed to be a robbery because
31:52chas wanted me to make it seem like everything was him he wanted me to like blame him for everything
31:58i didn't want to get in trouble but like being in here for so long now that's the truth like i knew
32:05that it was going to happen you're admitting now that you knew that chas was going to hurt someone yes
32:14on october 15 2010 danielle hudson has just confessed that her boyfriend chas blackshear is
32:31responsible for the murders of two houston cab drivers she paints a picture that chas forced her
32:40to take part in these crimes danielle wrote a letter to chas and we thought that by her authoring
32:47this letter that chas would now finally acknowledge what he did it was danielle explaining to chas that
32:57he made a promise that he would tell the police that she had nothing to do with it
33:02and the ending of her letter was basically honor your promises do what you said you were going to do
33:10it's that letter that's brought in to chas to see if it would break him
33:23detectives decide to make a deal with chas chas blackshear was trying to negotiate his terms
33:31let me talk to danielle and then i'll tell you what happened ultimately the reverse happened
33:38all right chance you'll see here once i've got the truth
33:44so just start telling the story in his desperation to see danielle chas agrees to tell detectives what
33:53happened the first one i picked pictures so i told him get to the back seat i pulled the gun down
33:59cocked and threw the money in and he said uh he said he said he said the devise
34:08how many times did you shoot it twice
34:10tell me about the second one just said he he was gonna pull out a good one or it looked like
34:18he was gonna pull out a good one i don't want me to shoot him i'm just trying to get the money
34:23as soon as i caught that he went to reach for it or whatever i saw
34:31detectives pressed chas for details about the role danielle played in the murders
34:36so it had nothing to do with it though so you know here he is willing to let his life down for me
34:45so it was like pain like you know is there anything else you want to say about it
34:51i didn't mean for the happy life day can i see her now please at the end of that interview that is
35:00when we had danielle go into chas's interview room she immediately walked over to chas
35:09sat on his lap wrapped her arms around his neck do you hate me that's why that's why i confess to
35:17you if i hate you i want to do it in the interview room it's sad because i was more afraid of leaving
35:25her than i was afraid of going to jail but my only concern was her going home to her son
35:33i can't take you to jail i told you you ain't know nothing about it
35:37after a few minutes detectives return and separate the couple i feel in doom you know and i just
35:55remember like i'm not going home they're not gonna let me go home i remember like really regretting
36:01everything despite chas's claim that danielle had nothing to do with the murders both are charged
36:10with capital murder the picture that danielle has painted is that chas has been controlling
36:17this whole situation she's fearful of him and so forth and so on well the minute she gets into the
36:23room she jumps into his lap and wraps her arms around him and it's just the perfect picture of the
36:30loving company i think that they both equally were the support system for the eventual acts of murder
36:45ultimately in august 2014 danielle pleads guilty to a lesser charge of murder and is sentenced to 40
36:53years in prison i remember just feeling like it was the end but at the same time it didn't really feel
37:01real like because i think i guess i didn't take in the severity of somebody actually just losing their life
37:09you know
37:12chas is also offered a plea deal which he accepts i thought i was gonna get the debt clean and i
37:19had planned on down for when i would have in july 2014 chas is sentenced to life in prison without the
37:27possibility of parole i had already made up in my mind that whatever it is i'm gonna take it the plan was
37:37to rob her right but uh i know what it may lead to i led her wrong i led myself wrong and they end up
37:45her losing half of her life her time and me losing mine
37:53now 15 years into her sentence danielle is finally ready to open up about her role in the crimes
38:02i came up with the plan about the cab drivers you know like them with the money in a way i was the
38:07mastermind
38:23after 15 years behind bars danielle hudson is finally coming clean about her role in the murders of
38:31mohammed el sayed and blaze wakanaka i know a lot of people might think that maybe i was forced or
38:38whatever but i wasn't it wasn't a gun to my head like i knew me and chas we both end up in a messed
38:45up way we came together like you know like i told him about the cab drivers and you know about the money
38:52i didn't know that my decision would cause as much damage
38:59so i mean how were these crimes supposed to unfold though like was it the plan to kill someone or
39:09yes it was supposed to be a robbery but um i'm not i don't know like um yes it was supposed to die
39:22and so why kill them i guess so it wouldn't be a witness either i think that uh she's gotten to a
39:30place at this point what good does it do with the lie it shows that she's remorseful
39:38if you could say anything to the victim's families what would you say to them
39:44i'm sorry like if i could take it back i would
39:46if they could find it in their hearts to forgive me and chas for the stupidity of our actions
39:55i i hope that they found like peace to move forward with life i'm truly sorry that
40:03you know these tragic events had to happen
40:05chas uses his story to set an example for younger men in prison
40:16i'm going to a man behind these walls that's the only reason i'm a man now is because of these prison
40:21walls and the only way that i found my relief was jesus christ was god i needed that and i wish i
40:27knew it back then so my my goal nice to give people god give people understanding give people
40:33love that other people aren't giving them give people a different sense of hope i know i hurt
40:38families and i've cried many nights and put myself in the shoes of their family in the shoes of them
40:45i was in so much pain that i really didn't want to do anything else and i understood i deserve this
40:51i think i deserve the time that i got it's life-changing you know because it's a struggle here too
41:01have you maintained any kind of relationship with chas no i thought co-defendants could write
41:06but they say we can't write so i don't have no type of nothing
41:12if you could say something to chas what would you say
41:15um i love you and just continue to strengthen yourself and if whenever i get out like i'm going
41:25to be there if you could say anything to danielle what would you say i tell her i love you i pray for
41:33a lot keep moving forward grow keep going because i know she's been gone as long as i have so i know
41:38she's gonna keep growing keep moving forward these two young individuals threw their whole lives away
41:49for what trying to make a quick buck now they haven't seen each other 15 years
41:58but they were able to have that goodbye with each other that final time being together
42:05something muhammad and blaze they never got to have that final goodbye
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