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00:00Thomas is back on board, and he's ready to contribute to Hope for the future.
00:06But, except for you.
00:08We haven't even discussed this.
00:10My father and I have, and we both agree, using Zenday and Thomas is the best thing moving forward for your line.
00:15Well, what about my brother? He was offered a position here.
00:19It was a trial position, Hope.
00:21And hey, he may very well have a future in fashion.
00:25But not here at Forrester.
00:27You're COO, so you know everything happening around here?
00:30I try to stay in the loop.
00:34Is this yours?
00:35Yeah, yeah.
00:37It's nice, man.
00:38Thanks. I'm hoping one of these will make production someday.
00:42Keep at it, Deke. You never know.
00:44That's actually kind of why I asked to meet with you, Carter.
00:48I was just wondering if you had any idea what the future holds for me at the company.
00:53I have news.
00:55Oh, good news, I hope.
00:57That's good news for some.
00:58Okay. What is it?
01:02Zenday and Thomas have been collaborating on Hope for the Future.
01:05That's the good news.
01:06The bad news is that means that Hope's brother is out.
01:13Already?
01:14I mean, he hasn't even been here.
01:16I know. You know what? I think this is...
01:18I've got to think this is the right thing to do.
01:21It's the best thing to hope for the future.
01:22This is just incredible.
01:26First, you spring the surprise wedding on mom, and now you're creating a fashion company for her?
01:32Right here at Spencer Publications.
01:33Yeah, it's definitely been a surprising couple of days.
01:37But how could you possibly say no?
01:39Oh, this is an amazing deal.
01:41It is. It's just...
01:43It's not going to be easy telling Brooke.
01:45I'm sure Aunt Brooke will be happy for you, Mom.
02:03Well, that could go either way with Forrester flapping his gums in Brooke's ear.
02:07Well, I do need to tell my sisters right away.
02:09How about you don't worry about them?
02:11You're putting yourself first for a change.
02:14Creating your own vision, and it's going to be beautiful.
02:21You're having so much faith in me.
02:24And thank you for all your love and support.
02:27You've got it, Mom.
02:29Yeah, you know what? You're right. You're right.
02:30It's going to be okay.
02:32You know, we, Logans, we are all about lifting each other up.
02:38Brooke's going to be happy for me.
02:41I'm just surprised to hear this.
02:43Well, it all happened pretty quickly.
02:48I don't know. I like Deke.
02:50I see a lot of promise in his work.
02:52I like him, too, and there's definitely promise,
02:54but he just doesn't have the practical experience.
02:55And I think, Sandy, Thomas, it's just a better fit.
03:04I don't mean to put you on the spot.
03:06No, no, no. It's fine.
03:08I just, uh...
03:08Maybe it's confidential.
03:10Uh, I get it if you can't talk about it.
03:14Deke, honestly, man,
03:15I don't know what the plan is.
03:17Yeah, no, it's cool.
03:21I, uh, I realize we're probably still working it out,
03:24and I'm on a trial period,
03:25so there's no guarantee.
03:28It's just been a really great experience working here.
03:31It's been a dream come true for me.
03:33Honestly.
03:35So you're firing Deke?
03:38There's no room for him, Hope.
03:39Look, I understand that Deke is your brother,
03:44but Thomas and Zenday, they have it covered.
03:46They make an excellent team.
03:47It is my line, Steffi.
03:50Yes.
03:51And I am co-CEO of Forrester.
03:55So you're telling me I have no say.
04:09No matter what the future holds,
04:14I'm so thankful for the opportunity.
04:17We feel that from you, man, we do.
04:19And, look, I wish I had more answers for you.
04:21No, no.
04:22Look, it's cool.
04:24I, uh...
04:25I'm just gonna try to be patient.
04:28Do that.
04:30I'll be honest with you, though.
04:32There's a lot riding on Hope for the Future,
04:34and it's paramount to Forrester's success.
04:37They need to select the best design team possible.
04:41Zenday and Thomas made a pitch.
04:43They're capable.
04:44They're more than capable,
04:45and we can't say that about Deke yet.
04:48I know.
04:49He's still learning the ropes.
04:51He would benefit from more experience.
04:53Absolutely.
04:53We don't have the luxury to give them that here.
04:57Okay.
04:58I mean, but do you really think it's smart
05:00that Steffi's the one delivering the news?
05:02It's Hope's brother, after all.
05:04I think that'd be a tough thing to hear from anybody.
05:09But Hope and Steffi are in a pretty good place right now, right?
05:12Yeah.
05:13I think so.
05:17But think about it.
05:19Hope's brother is being pushed out
05:21so Steffi's brother can come in.
05:23We are talking about my line.
05:31I don't get to have a say in who my lead design team is?
05:35That's why we're having this conversation, Hope.
05:38Thomas thinks Deke is unnecessary.
05:40Well, I don't.
05:41I think Deke is necessary.
05:43And besides, your brother lives in Paris.
05:45He'll work remotely, or he can commute.
05:48Okay.
05:51Wow.
05:53I'm sure it's not what you were expecting.
05:55No.
05:56No, it really was.
05:58I mean,
05:59this really has come out of nowhere, don't you think?
06:01I mean, one minute Deke is positioned
06:03to potentially design for my line one day,
06:06and the next, Thomas flies in
06:08and suddenly changes his mind
06:10and decides he wants another chance at it.
06:12How many of Deke's designs
06:13have we put into production, Hope?
06:16None.
06:16He's a rookie.
06:19Thomas and Zenday, they are veterans.
06:20It's that simple.
06:23All I am asking for
06:24is for you to please reconsider.
06:28Deke loves it here.
06:29He's passionate about this company.
06:31All he wants is a chance.
06:33Can't we at least give him one?
06:38Is this really just about your brother?
06:41Or is it about my brother, too?
06:42Well, you know,
06:46now that you mention it,
06:48it does put me
06:51in a bit of an uncomfortable position
06:53working with Thomas again
06:56after everything we've been through,
06:57and I'm sure Liam
06:59won't be happy to hear about it either.
07:01Well, we can't make business decisions
07:04because you're uncomfortable
07:05around my brother.
07:07This is a family company,
07:08and I thought we moved on
07:09from everything.
07:10You have your own life.
07:11He has his.
07:13That's not the point.
07:15Don't you want what's best
07:17for your line?
07:19Thomas and Zenday
07:20working together
07:21is the answer.
07:22Deke has fresh ideas.
07:24I mean,
07:24there has to be room for him.
07:25There isn't.
07:27And we can't keep someone
07:28on the payroll
07:29if they're not needed hope.
07:32I think you should be the one
07:33to break the news to Deke.
07:45Baller move with mom.
07:50Baller move with mom.
07:52Got to hand it to you.
07:53I'm just glad she's up for it.
07:55Who in their right mind
07:56would turn down
07:57this insane present?
07:58It's incredible
07:59what you're doing for her.
08:00I told you
08:01there's nothing
08:01I wouldn't do for you, mom.
08:07Oh, good.
08:08Um,
08:09I've been looking for you.
08:10There's something
08:11I need to talk to you about.
08:12Oh, okay.
08:13If this is about
08:14the outside PR firm,
08:16I understand.
08:16No, no, no.
08:17It has nothing to do with that.
08:20Okay,
08:20then what is it?
08:21You know how Bill
08:24can be a little, um,
08:25over the top
08:27when it comes to
08:28romantic gestures.
08:31Um,
08:32well, this time
08:32he really went big.
08:34After we got married,
08:35he gave me the most
08:36incredible wedding present.
08:39Let me guess.
08:41A tiara.
08:43No, no,
08:45not a tiara.
08:45Um,
08:46a fashion house.
08:59So,
09:00how did it go?
09:02Hope wasn't too pleased.
09:04Well, of course not.
09:05Deke's family,
09:05yeah,
09:06she wants some more up.
09:07Well,
09:07Deke is green.
09:08He's fresh out of
09:09design school.
09:10I just need
09:11some more experience.
09:12That's it.
09:12So I told Brooke.
09:14I'm sure she isn't
09:15too thrilled.
09:16She's okay.
09:16She understands,
09:17I think,
09:17but she also knows
09:18that her daughter's
09:18going to be hurt.
09:19I know that too.
09:20Hope's very lucky
09:21that her line exists.
09:22We've poured so much
09:23money and resources
09:24into a dad.
09:25I know.
09:26This has got to work
09:27and that's just for Hope
09:28but for the whole comfort.
09:30So,
09:31I've been dying here
09:32where you think.
09:32I meant to show you
09:33this earlier,
09:34but, um,
09:35I stayed up all night
09:36working on this.
09:37Also,
09:37this one too.
09:38I mean,
09:38just wait till it's finished.
09:39I'm hoping I have a mock-up
09:40by Monday.
09:42Oh, oh, oh.
09:42Wait,
09:43one more.
09:43One more.
09:44So,
09:44this one is so versatile.
09:46Like,
09:47whatever you want.
09:47Nightclub,
09:48beach club.
09:49I mean,
09:50I'm thinking we could get
09:51production costs way down
09:52and get a really good price point.
09:54And,
09:54I mean,
09:55what do you think?
09:56Look,
09:57I'm sorry,
09:57I'm probably bombarding you
09:58with a lot,
09:59but just the prospect
10:00of having one of my designs
10:02up on the runway
10:02is just
10:03so exciting.
10:05I mean,
10:05it'll be my first time
10:06and honestly,
10:07if there's any tweaks
10:08you want done,
10:09I'm open to anything.
10:10I trust you.
10:11Deke.
10:12I know.
10:13I know.
10:14I,
10:14I'm probably like
10:16way too hyped up
10:17right now,
10:18aren't I?
10:18No,
10:18I love
10:20seeing you
10:22this lit up.
10:23Well,
10:24of course,
10:24I mean,
10:25it's just such an honor
10:26to be working
10:27at this company
10:27and obviously,
10:29the best part
10:30is working
10:30with my sister.
10:34So,
10:34I just,
10:36I just
10:36met with
10:38Steffi
10:39and she
10:39spoke to Ridge
10:40earlier.
10:42Oh,
10:42does this mean
10:45they made a decision
10:46to,
10:46do I have
10:48a permanent
10:49position on the line?
10:59There's no one
10:59more deserving.
11:01Mom's a boss.
11:02She's one of the most
11:03underrated figures
11:04in the fashion world.
11:06Katie's a force.
11:07The total package.
11:08Marketing genius,
11:09PR extraordinaire.
11:10Well,
11:11not to mention
11:11the fact that
11:12she ran the company.
11:13She was the CEO.
11:14I know for a fact
11:15that she knows
11:16how to make magic happen.
11:17Yeah,
11:17plus she's cool.
11:19You know,
11:19she knows what's happening.
11:20She knows what's in.
11:21Unlike that dinosaur Ridge.
11:23Exactly.
11:24And I'm so excited
11:25for Mom
11:25because I know
11:26she's gonna kill it.
11:27She could run
11:27a fashion house
11:28in her sleep.
11:30No more being
11:30taken advantage of,
11:32taken for granted.
11:34It's Katie's time
11:34to shine.
11:36Sick of her being
11:37a cog in the wheel
11:38at Forrester.
11:39And finally,
11:40no more answering
11:41to Ridge and Brooke.
11:43Fashion house?
11:49Yeah,
11:49I know.
11:50It's,
11:50it's my own
11:52fashion company.
11:52I mean,
11:52it sounds crazy,
11:53but I,
11:54I'm so excited
11:55about this.
11:57Yeah,
11:57it does sound
11:58a little bit crazy.
12:00I mean,
12:01developing a brand
12:02is a huge undertaking.
12:04Took years
12:05for Forrester
12:05to get off the ground.
12:06I understand that
12:07and I'm not naive.
12:08I know this is gonna be
12:09a lot of work.
12:10I'm going to be
12:10a very busy woman,
12:12but I can do this.
12:15I'm up for the challenge
12:16and Bill has been
12:17incredibly supportive.
12:19Oh,
12:19it's Bill's idea.
12:21Yeah,
12:21apparently he's been
12:22planning this for a while
12:23and he really wants
12:24this for me
12:25and he believes
12:27I can do it.
12:28Well,
12:29that's really sweet.
12:31But your own company,
12:33I mean,
12:34how is that even
12:35gonna work?
12:36Well,
12:37it will be under
12:37the Spencer umbrella.
12:38I mean,
12:40okay,
12:41I get it.
12:42By the look on your face,
12:43I can tell that you're shocked.
12:44I am too,
12:45but this is real.
12:47Bill's not making
12:47empty promises.
12:48He is ready
12:49to get the ball rolling.
12:50But are you
12:52ready to get
12:53the ball rolling?
12:54Honestly,
12:55I was a little hesitant
12:57at first,
12:59but I have
13:00given this
13:01a lot of thought
13:02and I've discussed it
13:04with Will
13:04and Bill
13:06and I'm doing this
13:09and I wanted you
13:11to be the first
13:12to know.
13:21I hate this for Deke.
13:23I mean,
13:23he is such a sweet guy.
13:25He does have
13:25so much potential.
13:26He's a go-getter,
13:27but it's just,
13:28it's not ready.
13:29No.
13:30I don't like doing this
13:31to a young designer,
13:32but it's the right decision
13:34for us,
13:34I think.
13:35Yeah.
13:36I wonder how
13:37he's going to react.
13:39I was giving him
13:40the news as you speak.
13:43So,
13:43what'd you hear?
13:44Do I have a permanent
13:45position on your line?
13:49You are
13:50tremendously
13:51talented,
13:52Deke.
13:54But you still
13:55have a lot
13:56to learn.
13:58Zenday's already
13:58on the line
13:59and I
14:00just found out
14:01that Thomas wants
14:02to be a part of
14:02Hope for the Future
14:03again.
14:04I think I know
14:06what you're about
14:06to say.
14:08They're not
14:09extending my contract,
14:10are they?
14:12Unfortunately,
14:13no.
14:16But it's not
14:16because you aren't
14:17good.
14:18You are,
14:18Deke.
14:19It's just,
14:19there's no room
14:21right now.
14:22Zenday and Thomas,
14:23they want to take
14:24the lead and I really,
14:25I didn't have any
14:26say in the matter.
14:28It's okay.
14:28Hope I get it.
14:29I mean,
14:30obviously I wanted
14:32to stick around,
14:32but those guys
14:33are way more
14:35established and
14:35experienced than
14:36I am and I
14:38basically just
14:38graduated,
14:39so.
14:40Usually it's
14:41after years of
14:42mentorship and
14:43working as a
14:44designer that
14:45someone gets the
14:45opportunity to be
14:47the lead on the
14:48high profile line
14:50like this.
14:51Yeah,
14:52I know.
14:53And I have to
14:54keep proving myself.
14:56I get it.
14:57and I will.
15:03It's really,
15:04really going to
15:05suck not seeing
15:06you here when I
15:07walked,
15:07walking to work
15:08every day.
15:10Me too,
15:10but you know,
15:11you're my sister
15:12and I'm going to
15:14see you all the
15:14time.
15:17I mean,
15:17who knows?
15:18Maybe that'll
15:19hire me at the
15:19restaurant.
15:20Oh my gosh,
15:21don't say that.
15:21You know you
15:22would love that.
15:26I'm never going to
15:27give up on my
15:27drinks.
15:29Shut up.
15:29You sure you
15:37don't want to
15:38join your mom?
15:39It's going to be
15:40the hottest fashion
15:40company in the
15:41world.
15:42I'll keep my
15:43options open.
15:44I think one
15:45Spencer defection
15:46is enough for
15:46now.
15:47Yeah,
15:47that clown show
15:48won't know what
15:48to do without
15:49Katie.
15:50I can't believe
15:50she's actually
15:51doing it.
15:52Walking away from
15:52Forrester creations
15:53from her sisters.
15:55It's the end of
15:56an era.
15:57And the beginning
15:58of a new or
15:58exciting one.
15:59So Bill is
16:03just starting a
16:05fashion house
16:06just for you.
16:08I know it's
16:09it's mind
16:10blowing.
16:11And I'm just
16:12I'm trying to
16:13process it all
16:14myself.
16:15It's just
16:16he has so
16:18much faith
16:20in me.
16:21He's putting
16:22so much trust
16:23in me.
16:23I guess I just
16:24never thought
16:24that anyone
16:25would believe
16:27in me that
16:27much so
16:28unconditionally.
16:29I mean this
16:29is this is
16:31the most
16:31amazing thing
16:32that anyone's
16:32ever done
16:33for me.
16:34Yes,
16:35but is this
16:36something that
16:37you really
16:38want?
16:38Yes,
16:39it is.
16:39I know
16:40it's daunting
16:41and it's
16:42going to take
16:42so much
16:43work,
16:44but I've
16:45been in
16:45this business
16:46for a long
16:47time.
16:47I know
16:47this business.
16:48I'm ready.
16:51Okay.
16:53So what are
16:53you going to
16:54call it?
16:55Spencer
16:55Fashions?
16:57Oh,
16:57well,
16:58I haven't
16:58really thought
17:00about what I'm
17:00going to call it
17:01yet.
17:01I mean,
17:01maybe you can
17:03help me with
17:04that.
17:04I mean,
17:05fashion's your
17:06world.
17:07It's kind of
17:07your turf,
17:08right?
17:10I don't know.
17:12I don't know
17:13about that.
17:13Please understand
17:14I'm not
17:15disrespecting
17:15Forrester
17:16Creations,
17:17but I've
17:19always felt
17:19like there's
17:19a bit of a
17:20glass ceiling
17:20here for me,
17:22and I really
17:23hope that my
17:23departure won't
17:24affect Will's
17:25future here
17:25at the company.
17:28So you're
17:29really leaving?
17:33I'm leaving,
17:33and it's a
17:34little scary,
17:35but I have
17:37to do this,
17:37this once-in-a-lifetime
17:38opportunity.
17:39I can't walk
17:40away from this.
17:44I mean,
17:45I am happy
17:45for you.
17:46I am.
17:46It's just,
17:47I'm a little
17:48sad,
17:50you know?
17:50I love working
17:51with my little
17:52sister here.
17:53And Katie,
17:54I mean,
17:55this is,
17:56this is gonna
17:57be hard.
17:58You're starting
17:58a whole new
17:59company,
18:00and yes,
18:01you have
18:01experience,
18:02but mostly
18:02in PR,
18:03right?
18:03And I know
18:04that running
18:04a company
18:05is a whole
18:06different beast.
18:07I mean,
18:07I ran Forrester
18:08Creations for a
18:09while.
18:10Yes,
18:10you did.
18:12You're gonna
18:13have to hire
18:14a whole new
18:15design team.
18:16And they're
18:16gonna have
18:16to be the
18:16best,
18:17because there's
18:18gonna be no
18:19room for error.
18:21I know that
18:22there are no
18:22guarantees,
18:23but Bill
18:23believes in me,
18:25and I
18:27believe in me.
18:30I want this.
18:37I'm just a
18:38little worried,
18:39okay?
18:39Okay?
18:40I'm worried,
18:42but I know
18:43how you are.
18:44When you set
18:45your mind to
18:46something,
18:46there is no
18:47changing your
18:47mind,
18:48so I have to
18:49accept it,
18:51right?
18:52And I will.
18:53I mean,
18:54I am happy
18:55for you.
18:57I will support
18:58you in this.
19:14Look ahead.
19:15What is that?
19:16That's the name
19:17of my new
19:17fashion house.
19:19I still
19:19think about
19:20those times,
19:21us creating
19:21together.
19:22That's what
19:23I want to bring
19:23back.
19:24You should
19:24spend the night.
19:25Really?
19:26I'd love to
19:26spend more time
19:27with you.
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