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Love & Marriage: Huntsville - Season 10 Episode 14 -
Nell in a Handbasket
Nell in a Handbasket
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00:00And what's going on in her life, in her marriage,
00:02and that damn Martell went live.
00:05Your friend need to keep my family's business
00:08out her mouth.
00:12I think Nell got triggered, because when I met with her,
00:15she said, Letitia Scott need to mind her .
00:19Mind my business about what?
00:22Nell wants to have a problem with me.
00:24You know that's stirring the pot.
00:26Is it?
00:26Yes, for me.
00:28I mean, it's easy to have a good conversation with me, Destiny,
00:30and Kimmy, because we all know one another.
00:32I think Destiny is everybody's friend.
00:35She's everybody's friend.
00:37Friend to everybody's is a friend to nobody's.
00:41The wife felt like all y'all ganged up on her.
00:43Was Destiny a part of that, too?
00:44Yeah.
00:45Did she really say she felt ganged up on?
00:47Yeah.
00:48It's a family.
00:49Everybody tired.
00:50It ain't just by one person.
00:51It's by all of us.
00:52Well, one person is doing a .
00:55One person here is doing a , and that happened to be me.
01:00We keep it movin'.
01:03All day, all night.
01:05Yeah.
01:06Ain't no stopping us.
01:08Drop that.
01:09We keep it movin'.
01:11You know.
01:12You know.
01:13We keep it movin'.
01:15All day, all night.
01:17Yeah.
01:18Yeah.
01:19All day, all night.
01:20Yeah.
01:21Ain't no stopping us.
01:22Yeah.
01:23Yeah.
01:24All day, all night.
01:25Yeah.
01:26Ain't no stopping us.
01:27Yeah.
01:28Yeah.
01:29Yeah.
01:30Yeah.
01:31I'm coming up, babe.
01:53Don't get upset because I'd have made myself a mimosa.
01:57I'm spilling on your carpet.
01:58Oh, no, don't on my carpet now.
02:00Sorry, I forgot to grab a napkin.
02:02Turn the TV off.
02:04I'm glad you turned it off because I was going to turn it off for you.
02:07Why are you going to come up here and turn my TV off?
02:09Because I need to talk to you.
02:11On what, about the other night?
02:12The family dinner.
02:12Yeah, you already know.
02:13It was a lot.
02:14If you ask for these dinners and then I'm the one, get upset,
02:21or they make me upset, take me to another level,
02:24and you just, you sit there and you like.
02:28I'm like, what?
02:29I mean, I've been doing this all my life.
02:31Exactly.
02:32Do nothing.
02:32I'm not a comfort.
02:33What'd you say?
02:35Nothing.
02:35When it comes to them, you don't.
02:37You just sit there.
02:38I'm listening.
02:39You got to hear what's going on to figure out how to possibly have a solution to it.
02:43What you want me to do?
02:44Just get up and smack the hell out of one of them or something?
02:46That'll work for me.
02:48Me getting up and slapping somebody is not going to help anything.
02:52I understand how you feel, but someone has to make sure there's a clean level head in all these situations.
03:01My wife, she can be very quick tempered.
03:05Just through experience, I've learned that, you know, when you react so quickly, you can react out of turn.
03:12And so I've learned to sit back and wait because, you know, if I jump when she jumps, then that's like adding fuel to the fire.
03:21We can make things worse when they really don't have to be.
03:23When I did get mad, and I went off, and I got so emotional until I cried, and it hurt me so bad, you didn't say nothing.
03:38Okay, well.
03:40I think that could have been a perfect opportunity for you to say something to them.
03:44Okay.
03:46If that's how you feel, I understand, and I apologize.
03:50I would never put you in that position again.
03:54If you felt that was wrong, I apologize.
03:56I felt it was dead-ass wrong.
03:59Okay.
04:00I didn't like it.
04:01I'll make sure I have something to say if it happens again.
04:06All right.
04:08I just have to wait and see with this family how things go.
04:12I don't know.
04:13It's where we stand.
04:20Hey, Kimberly.
04:39Oh, hey, Kimberly.
04:40It's a dream for me.
04:42I bet it is.
04:43So, we all get the call from Destiny.
04:47It's time to meet up.
04:49Usually, it's a hoot.
04:51Good food, good fun.
04:52So, let's see what's on the books for today.
04:54Would you like something to drink?
04:55Water?
04:56I'll just get some water.
04:57Okay.
04:58Why are you watering it up?
04:59Just need some.
05:00Just need some.
05:01Just need some.
05:02Just have you had a little wild night or something?
05:04It's a chill day for her.
05:06You and Maurice had a little wild night?
05:08No, man.
05:09Not at all.
05:10Not at all.
05:11We've been just working.
05:12Working, working.
05:13We've been just kind of chilling.
05:16Yep.
05:16I need a wild night.
05:17That's what everybody been doing.
05:18Everybody's like, you just been working, working.
05:20You need a wild night?
05:21Yeah.
05:22We're getting to the end of the road.
05:23We're getting ready for these boys to graduate and get up out of here.
05:27Aw.
05:28Bittersweet.
05:30Mine is going to kindergarten.
05:32Dang.
05:33You just started, baby.
05:35So, what's up?
05:35What you been up to?
05:36You know, working.
05:38You know, I had a business lunch with Martel and Chris.
05:45And Chris had an interesting perspective on the festivities night.
05:49And he mentioned that Nell felt ganged up on.
05:52And Tisha.
05:53Hear me out.
05:54Hear me out.
05:54Okay.
05:55Do I believe it to be true that she was ganged up on?
05:57No.
05:57But can I see her perspective that it felt that way?
06:01I guess when people are calling you on your BS, then you could actually feel like you're
06:05being ganged up on.
06:06However, Nell came into the conversation with bad energy.
06:11I just feel like Nell just wasn't there to hear whatever it was we had to say.
06:15Even if, at the end of the day, you felt as though four out of five people had things
06:22to say to you, it was because of what you were saying.
06:25And the energy you was given.
06:27Three out of five.
06:28One, two, three.
06:29What'd I say?
06:29She was four.
06:30When she was hollering at me, you told her she was hollering at me.
06:33I did.
06:33That's four out of five.
06:34That's not ganged up on.
06:35That's accountability.
06:36Right.
06:36People were trying to hold her accountable.
06:38Now she said she's ganged up on.
06:39And no, no, no.
06:40I'm not negating that that is the other side of the...
06:42You made my entire point.
06:44Can we talk about something else now?
06:45Cheers to that.
06:48Just saying.
06:50I don't know what Destiny's doing with this Nell situation.
06:53She 100% was in the four out of the five saying, you're hollering, you're yelling, calm down,
07:01chill out.
07:02Her response is, but I wasn't ganging up.
07:05I was holding her accountable.
07:06Well, we all was holding her accountable.
07:08That's the whole point of the conversation.
07:10The part that I hate is that the Nell that I know and have seen, y'all haven't gotten a
07:15chance to meet.
07:16I met Nell when her mom was dying.
07:18And so I saw her in a different light.
07:20Her praying for me and my marriage and before I even got married and her crying to me about
07:26not being able to make my wedding because her mom passed away a couple of days before.
07:30So I've seen another side of her.
07:31And since then, she's been kind of hard and lashing out.
07:35And it's just kind of hard to be in this space because I give her more grace than most people,
07:40I guess.
07:41I try to though, Destiny.
07:42Maybe she wants to show that side with you because it is okay for Nell to be cool with
07:47you and whoever else and not be cool with me.
07:49I'm okay with that.
07:51I just don't want that energy because this group, like, both of y'all husbands do business
07:57with Chris.
07:58Like, we're bound to be around each other.
07:59So Nell's going to be around.
08:01I'm having a girl's trip and we're going to a winery and all of the girls are invited.
08:07All of the girls?
08:07We're going to all be there.
08:09See what I'm saying?
08:10You said that very well when she said all the girls.
08:13Yeah, because I really don't want to be around Nell.
08:14I'm really not here for a girl's trip with Nell and the ladies because hearing what Nell
08:22said to Destiny about me and, you know, my husband and about this stupid interview that
08:27Martell did.
08:28I didn't tell you this and I should have, but I forgot.
08:31But when I met with her, she was like, she need not worry about my husband.
08:34She needs to worry about they throwing on that video, on that tape.
08:36I ain't never got to worry about another woman, ever.
08:39For her to turn around and use that and talk about me and use it against me, I think that's
08:44the nail in the Nell coffin for me.
08:46If you're having a trip and you want me to be around her, okay, whatever, fine.
08:51I just want to be very clear.
08:53I don't like her.
08:54I don't like how she operates.
08:56I don't like how she moves.
08:57And I just don't like that type of person.
09:00I know Nell and Tisha are beefing, but Tisha has said way too many times that she could
09:06be in a room with someone that she doesn't get along with and still be an adult and be
09:09gorgeous.
09:10So I'm inviting the ladies to the winery because I really think that the ladies need to come
09:14together on a level where there's no husbands and there's no kids, there's no business.
09:19So let's have a good time.
09:21Speaking of my event, I have baskets.
09:23The baskets.
09:25What's this?
09:25We having a picnic?
09:26No, we're not having a picnic.
09:28So I went on a date.
09:29Who did you go on a date with?
09:31Will.
09:32Brought some stuff to hopefully let you know a little bit more about who I am.
09:37So googly eyes just got kicked to the curb just like that?
09:40No, no, no.
09:41Nobody's kicked to the curb.
09:43She's been saying Will a lot lately.
09:45I have not.
09:46You've only seen Will at Vachivities and that.
09:49So you went on a date with Will, huh?
09:52What happened to googly eyes?
09:53Never mind.
09:54Because it's not my business.
09:55I see.
09:56I get it.
09:57It's not my business.
09:58You do you, boo-boo.
10:02Will?
10:03Is that the only person you googly now?
10:05Back to the basket.
10:06So in the basket, what I would like for you ladies to do is find small items from your home.
10:11You don't have to go out and get things that are sentimental and important to you.
10:15Put them in the basket and we're going to talk about it to like get to know each other a little bit more.
10:20It's like a show and tell.
10:21Are you saying you want us to get to know one another with the ladies?
10:25There's depth to all of us.
10:27There's parts of us that all of us don't know.
10:29I think we know each other well.
10:31But then there's Trish, there's Nell.
10:33Although I'm excited to learn something about the ladies, I'm done with Nell.
10:37Like, I'm done with that relationship.
10:40Bye.
10:42And we're going to have a good time.
10:43Don't forget your basket.
10:44Okay, Destiny, I'm about to go tell you I'm going to get my kids from school.
10:47But I need for you to stay because you got to get a tab.
10:48Uh-oh, how the hell I get to tab at your restaurant?
10:52That's your party.
10:53You know what?
10:54Make sure she pay for all of us.
10:55Okay, bye, Destiny.
10:56Love you.
10:57Bye.
10:57I'm so sick of them.
10:59You better put that on Marceau's tab.
11:03Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
11:06Chris said that you felt like you were being ganged up on.
11:10I did.
11:11By everybody?
11:12I'm not trying to play victim.
11:13I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
11:18Now we're, like, clean slate moving forward today.
11:21Yes.
11:22Does she feel like she owes me in the policy?
11:24Oh.
11:25Learn now.
11:26I'm keeping the name out of my mouth.
11:27My family dinner, to me, it wasn't the best for me.
11:53But today is a new day.
11:56I'm going to meet up with Destiny.
11:57We're going to have some girl time.
11:58We're going to make some beautiful floor arrangements.
12:01And hopefully, making these floor arrangements bring me the peace and calm that I need.
12:06Well, hello.
12:07Hi.
12:07I'm bringing Nell to Albert's Flowers at Black-owned local flower shop because I know this is what
12:13she loves.
12:13She loves flowers.
12:14She loves arrangements.
12:17I'm hoping that being here will get her calm, relaxed, and in her element so that she can
12:23have a real conversation.
12:24The last time I saw her was at Flesh-tivity, so it was a little intense.
12:30Yeah, I'm loving this.
12:32Oh, that's beautiful.
12:33That really is pretty.
12:35You came in here showing out.
12:36Did anybody need you to come in here showing out?
12:39What is going on with mine?
12:40What does it look like?
12:42It's different.
12:43Is that your answer?
12:45Nothing wrong with yours.
12:48I'm sure Chris told you we had a meeting about one of Martell's properties and being dual
12:54agents on it.
12:56And then it came up about Flesh-tivities that, well, Chris said that you felt like you were
13:04being ganged up on.
13:05I did.
13:07By everybody?
13:09Yes.
13:10What did y'all think y'all doing here?
13:12Gang up on me?
13:14Ooh!
13:15I didn't say you.
13:16Oh, okay.
13:16I didn't say you.
13:17I'm strictly talking about 1.0 and 2.0.
13:21With you, I said I'm not talking to you.
13:24I was really talking to Letitia and Kimmy, but I feel like you just kind of jumped at like,
13:31well, wait, I haven't done nothing, but you were so quick.
13:34She'll say that I wasn't a part of it.
13:35Right.
13:36Why won't I be quick on that?
13:37But it was the way you did it to me.
13:39And that's when Letitia's like, oh, my God, oh, my God, the victim.
13:43And I'm like, I'm not trying to play victim.
13:45I just really feel like I was being ganged up on.
13:49I have a problem sometimes communicating, especially when I have so much going on around.
13:55I know, I know.
13:56And now you got these grandbabies.
13:57My kids, right, you know, my niece, my marriage, it's a lot.
14:01You know, my business, I deal with other people's kids.
14:04So by the time I get to this group of ladies, I'm tired.
14:09Yeah.
14:09I just want peace, really.
14:11Just don't poke me.
14:12I have so much going on in my own personal life right now that this mess that Letitia
14:19Scott got going on with her and me, you know, I don't even have time for it right now.
14:24It's so much miscommunication in this group.
14:26And then when we get to the acknowledgement of miscommunication, it still goes nowhere.
14:32Like, I can acknowledge the fact that it could have been perceived as you being ganged up on.
14:36Now feeling ganged up on, I can kind of see that.
14:38Do I really think it was intentional?
14:40No.
14:41But I can see how it felt that way.
14:43So you're good enough to go on a trip with all of the ladies?
14:47Hey, I'm good.
14:51So I'm taking all the ladies on the trip.
14:53Like, I know how to conduct myself.
14:56I'm taking all the ladies on a trip.
14:57We're going to a winery and we're going to have an amazing time.
15:03And I have, I went on a date recently.
15:06Don't be laughing.
15:07What you giggling for?
15:08Who'd you go out with this time?
15:10Well, I went on a date with Will.
15:13And Will brought a basket, which I thought was so cute.
15:17And in the basket, he put personalized items to, like, tell me more about himself.
15:21So I stole his idea.
15:23I got all the ladies' baskets.
15:24I want everybody to put personalized little mini items.
15:27Tell about yourself to the group.
15:29It's kind of like a show and tell.
15:32Well, this is your basket.
15:34Don't be shady.
15:35You said you're going on a trip.
15:37I might be sick that day.
15:38You ain't sick.
15:39I ain't feeling good.
15:40All of a sudden, I'm just...
15:41Listen, I'm being serious.
15:42I'm being real serious right now.
15:44This is your basket.
15:45And you are the only person that has already gotten a gift from me inside of the basket.
15:49This is a little Bible.
15:51You want to know why I got you that gift?
15:53It's because of how special you were to me as I was going through being engaged, married, divorced.
16:00You always prayed for me.
16:02You always showed up as a very prophetic woman.
16:06And I know the power inside of you.
16:09I've seen it.
16:11And the ladies have not.
16:13I know.
16:13And I know they play and they poke about you being a life coach and being a mentor.
16:22But you have been that for me.
16:23So it's hard for me to see y'all, have y'all battles when I know your heart.
16:29Because I know you.
16:31And I've seen you.
16:32I've seen you in all your power.
16:34But I haven't seen you since your mom died.
16:37It's hardened you.
16:39It's put a shell around you.
16:40And I want everybody to be able to see a woman that I love and I know.
16:48She's still there.
16:51She's not available to some people.
16:53I can see what I'm being played with.
16:57But she's still there.
17:00I know what I have with you is real.
17:05I'm just not there with everybody else, Desi.
17:07Like, I haven't been through nothing with them as I have with you.
17:15I do not let a lot of people get close to me.
17:18That's just who I am as a person.
17:20I've always been that way.
17:21I do not let everyone know how I feel or what I'm dealing with or what I'm going through.
17:28Unless you have that special place or a friendship with a man.
17:34Even with us, we've had some rough patches.
17:38And I want my nail back.
17:45I love you, too.
17:46Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
17:51You didn't ask her?
17:52She felt like she owed me an apology?
17:54I didn't ask you.
17:54I didn't do anything.
17:56Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
17:57I didn't ask her.
17:58And it's not me.
17:59I didn't ask you.
18:00Don't be in the middle of it.
18:01I'm not in the middle of it.
18:02Y'all are going to be in the middle.
18:03I'm not putting you in the middle.
18:04You put yourself in the middle.
18:05You didn't know.
18:05I did it.
18:06Hey, chick.
18:27Y'all ready?
18:27Y'all ready?
18:28As ready as we going to be.
18:30What's up?
18:30What's up?
18:32Considering the tension between Tisha and Nell,
18:35I think it's best for us to ride in separate cars
18:38so everybody can have their space and their peace.
18:41And I think the winery is the best place
18:43to bring us together because wine always helps.
18:46And there are the other ladies.
18:49Oh, OK.
18:50Yeah.
18:51So you ready to go?
18:52When I first get into the car, the energy is like,
18:55it's not bad, but it does feel like a drop of Miss Daisy
18:58moment.
18:59Not that she's like, oh, Miss Daisy.
19:01It just feels like a drop of Miss Daisy moment.
19:03So, Destiny, how is this going to go?
19:06What do we got to look forward to?
19:07I need an itinerary.
19:09Hour by hour.
19:10Have you ever been to a winery before?
19:12Yes, I have.
19:13Have you, Kimmy?
19:13Of course not.
19:14She don't like wine.
19:15Hey, hey, hey.
19:17I'm growing up.
19:18I'm so happy.
19:19It's big girl stuff.
19:20My chimneys was so fun, but I was just like.
19:23It was a lot going on.
19:24I was trying to stay peaceful.
19:26Y'all was not trying to stay peaceful.
19:28Hey, I was on the inside minding my own business.
19:32I was now.
19:34Y'all don't see coming to a mutual understanding in the near future.
19:40I don't know.
19:40I mean, I don't have, I really don't have a problem with Letitia.
19:44Is everybody else very receptive?
19:46It came out well and received well, and everybody's going to have like a really good time?
19:50Absolutely.
19:51That's great.
19:51I had a conversation with Nell about just coming in and having fun.
19:56That's, that's what this trip is about.
19:58It's like getting to know people a little bit deeper.
20:01So we don't have to have these like blow up moments.
20:03So now we're like clean slate moving forward today.
20:06Yes.
20:07Does she feel like she owes me an apology?
20:09Who?
20:10The one you just told us you had a conversation with that.
20:12Who's that?
20:12You know who.
20:14Lernell.
20:15I'm keeping the name out of my mouth.
20:17I'll say it.
20:19I mean, I don't know.
20:20I didn't ask her any of those questions.
20:22I didn't ask you.
20:23So you didn't ask her?
20:24She felt like she owed me an apology?
20:25I didn't ask you.
20:26I didn't do anything.
20:28Why y'all keep pointing the finger at me?
20:29I didn't ask her.
20:30It is not me.
20:30I didn't ask you.
20:31My God.
20:33Y'all got my head hurt and we ain't even got to this trip yet.
20:35Your head shouldn't hurt.
20:36It is.
20:37Don't be in the middle of it.
20:38I'm not in the middle of it.
20:39Y'all come on me in the middle.
20:40I'm not putting you in the middle.
20:42You put yourself in the middle.
20:43No, I didn't.
20:43The sheer fact of the matter is we wouldn't be in this situation if Destiny didn't tell.
20:48Well, Tisha, what now?
20:49See?
20:50The question was, did you ask Tisha?
20:51You feel like an apology should have happened?
20:53Because we're talking about the conversation you had with her.
20:55So I'm just asking you.
20:56And I said already that she's taking accountability and she's trying to be in a good place and have
21:00a good time.
21:01And you said the same thing, but then you're like, well, she need to say this in my face.
21:03Which one is it?
21:06You know what?
21:06I'm done with talking about her.
21:08Okay.
21:08I'm not going to let Tisha spoil this trip.
21:10I just don't know where this energy be coming from.
21:13You know what?
21:14I think we should pull over and I'm going to go check on that.
21:16What do you need to pull over?
21:17No.
21:18No.
21:19The answer is no.
21:21Okay.
21:21Perfect.
21:22Oh.
21:26Hello.
21:27Hi.
21:27Hi.
21:28We're going to swap out.
21:30You know.
21:30Is this wife swaps or something with this?
21:31Yes.
21:32Let's wife swap it.
21:33Wait.
21:33Not a wife.
21:34Well, you are still a wife.
21:36Never mind.
21:36Wife swap.
21:37Bitch, don't blame me.
21:38Wife swap.
21:39I am not a wife.
21:41Get on me.
21:42Trisha, you coming over here?
21:43Yes.
21:44Yay.
21:45Now we having a fun time.
21:47Uh-oh.
21:47Whatever.
21:48What the hell?
21:49Bitches.
21:50This face, I'm sick of their asses that it got on my nerves.
21:53Bye.
21:54Hi, Trisha.
21:55I haven't seen you in forever.
21:56I know.
21:58Why she switch out?
21:59What'd she tell you?
22:01She just said we're finna switch.
22:02I think she got tired of us.
22:04What'd I miss?
22:05We be holding Destiny accountable.
22:06That's all.
22:07Yeah.
22:08Holding Destiny accountable for her conversations.
22:10Because, you know, she be in the middle.
22:12She be in the middle of Nell and Tisha and those back and forth.
22:18Um, how did your ride with Trish go?
22:20It was lovely.
22:22I want to make sure that people have a good time, enjoy this winery, get to know each other
22:27a little bit better.
22:27Because I think that there's a lot of surface relationships and people don't know the depths
22:31of each other.
22:32And if it's to go alone and get alone when we're in this space, I get it.
22:37So, if it's that, that's what it is.
22:39But as long as we getting along.
22:40What's going on with you and the hubby boyfriend, Beyonce?
22:44Hubby 2B?
22:45What's good?
22:46What's the name?
22:47I'm glad that that's still the title.
22:49That works for me.
22:49Yeah, it is.
22:50Now, it was a little touch and go.
22:53I ain't gonna lie to you.
22:53Because, uh, we both was like, yeah, nah, I think the chaos that came back into the picture
23:02just...
23:02And that's gone, so...
23:05I know, right?
23:05So, now the flowers are back.
23:07Yeah.
23:08So, have we been on a date with Twan?
23:11I went to a, what you would call a business, like, lunch.
23:16But it was real interesting because, you know, him and I both agree there's an attraction
23:23there.
23:24It's like forbidden fruit because of...
23:27Even though Lance gave his blessing, but...
23:29Yeah.
23:29I'm gonna tell you something.
23:31We shut the restaurant down.
23:34Like, didn't want to leave.
23:36Ooh.
23:37Yeah.
23:37I was not expecting that, and I don't think he was either.
23:41Ooh.
23:43Yeah.
23:45Scared the out of me.
23:46Um...
23:47Well, we're at the winery, yay!
23:49We made it!
23:50We gotta...
23:51We gotta talk about this later.
23:54Because that's...
23:55That's serious.
23:56Yeah.
23:58Bad, bad girl.
23:59How you just gonna leave us?
24:02Oh, what happened was...
24:03Golly, boy!
24:06Welcome to Juberta Winery.
24:09We're gonna do a tasting, sit down for lunch, and more wine.
24:13This is a six-portune flight.
24:15Okay.
24:15And these are basically our dry-style wines.
24:18Now, the first one is the Riesling base, and we can try that, and tell me what you think
24:23of it.
24:24This is our Sand Mountain Blanc.
24:26Next one is a white blend, a little bit of Chardonnay.
24:36It is what we call white trash.
24:37Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
24:42Then we're gonna move on to the Rosé.
24:43At this very moment in time, everybody's here in good spirits, talking to each other, drinking
24:54wine, having a good day.
24:57Right here.
24:58Ha, ha, ha, ha!
25:00Table.
25:01Ooh.
25:02Very cutesy.
25:02Pretty.
25:03So how was the ride?
25:07The ride was fine.
25:08It's pretty.
25:09Long.
25:10A whole long hour.
25:12How was your ride, Dustin?
25:13It was great.
25:13Very peaceful.
25:15Oh.
25:16Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
25:17Yep.
25:18After you switched.
25:19I think that was some shade.
25:21It was shade, and I'm taking it.
25:22But we need it, though, because it's no shit out of my head.
25:25How was it shade?
25:26It's shade, but we ain't it.
25:27Thanks for your honesty.
25:28I'm gonna always be honest.
25:30Thank you for it.
25:31You're welcome, baby.
25:32Wait a minute!
25:34I need a shot.
25:35Can we start this over?
25:38Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
25:41I ask a question, then you get an answer.
25:43Then you answer the next question.
25:44I asked you a question.
25:45You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're gonna have.
25:47Who got smart with you?
25:47You did.
25:48I don't have a reason to get shade.
25:49I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
25:52Get the toll.
25:53Yeah, for no reason.
25:55How was your ride, Destiny?
25:57It was great.
25:57Very peaceful.
25:58Was it peaceful after you switched cars?
26:00Yep.
26:00I think that was some shade.
26:02It was shade, and I'm taking it.
26:04Thanks for your honesty.
26:05I'm always good.
26:06What Destiny did in that moment on the car ride to the winery, you should never ask your
26:13friend to excuse someone being disrespectful to them.
26:17And that is hurtful for me, because I really do love Destiny, and I cherish our relationship.
26:22But I also have to protect me.
26:25I love me more.
26:27Can we start this over?
26:28Mm-hmm.
26:28So what was y'all talking about?
26:30You.
26:31What y'all said about me?
26:32What I knew?
26:33What I did?
26:33Because you got out the car.
26:35Well, I was just trying to split myself evenly between both parties.
26:39And thank you.
26:40That was very thoughtful.
26:41Very sweet.
26:41I'm so professional.
26:42Y'all talking about me just getting out of the car.
26:44That's it.
26:44What else did y'all talk about?
26:45Don't tell her what happened in our car.
26:47They're not sharing any information what happened in their car.
26:49First of all, I ask a question, then you get an answer.
26:51Then you answer the next question.
26:53I asked you a question.
26:53You got smart with me, so that's the energy that we're going to have.
26:55Who got smart with you?
26:56You did.
26:57How did I get smart with you?
26:58You got to be like, what you say when I first asked him?
27:00You got to ask her what I said.
27:02Why you switched cars?
27:03What is his energy, Tisha?
27:04Because you gave me that energy.
27:05I did not.
27:06Yes, you did.
27:07Now, as you switched cars, then you said-
27:08She said it was peaceful.
27:10There's more peaceful.
27:10No.
27:11That's the day with Shane.
27:11He was like, absolutely.
27:12I said you asked a direct question, and if the answer came off Shady, it was direct.
27:16I don't have a reason to give shade.
27:17I'm trying to have a good, amicable trip, and I don't understand the energy.
27:20Get the toll.
27:21I don't want to be like, yeah, for no reason.
27:24I'm surprised that Tisha is feeling a way about me saying that the ride in the other car
27:29with Nell was peaceful.
27:30I was doing my best to remain neutral because it wasn't really my fight.
27:35This is a time for the ladies to get to know each other on a different level, agree to
27:39disagree, give some grace, and just have a good time.
27:44That was everybody's ride.
27:45The ride was very peaceful.
27:47There you go.
27:47Y'all hear that?
27:48We just started over.
27:49We started off on the wrong foot, so let's get back.
27:51I just want to make sure we good.
27:53If you felt like I got smart with you, that was not my intent.
27:56I thought you were joking.
27:57To be honest, when you said, was it peaceful?
27:58I'm like, yes.
28:00So that's how I perceived it.
28:02I mean, it's enough smoke over here.
28:04I don't need nothing from you.
28:04Well, they may not be in my feelings.
28:06We're good.
28:06I am determined to overlook Tisha's tantrums so that we can enjoy this outing.
28:15So everybody brought a basket.
28:17Y'all got my message about putting something sentimental or something to tell about yourself
28:20in the basket.
28:22So this is my basket.
28:24Can y'all see it?
28:25I have a picture of Law and I when he was a little baby.
28:32And this picture is very sentimental to me because for him, I had five miscarriages.
28:36So he means so much to me.
28:40This is from a very hard time in my life.
28:42When Law was two months old, he ended up in the hospital fighting for his life.
28:46And I remember just being by his bedside, waiting for him to come back to me.
28:53And I keep this little girl because it reminds me of his strength and him being a fighter, just
28:58like his mama.
28:58I always like to wear my family's weight on me.
29:04And me lifting weights, it's like lifting them up.
29:07And I brought a picture of us younger because, like, without my family, I don't know where I'd be right now.
29:17Obviously, I couldn't have a basket without Jalen.
29:22Aw.
29:23Jalen, um, dang, I ain't gonna cry.
29:26Jalen is, like, my everything.
29:29And then everybody knows my candle.
29:33Don't act like you don't.
29:35So I put my candle.
29:37I love it.
29:37I love my candle.
29:39And y'all helped me name my first set, so I appreciate that.
29:43Aw, that's so sweet.
29:44That's my basket.
29:45At the end of the day, I am happy that I decided to come to the winery because we're
29:50around each other a lot, the ladies in this group.
29:53And it's great that we get a chance to learn more about each other.
29:57Who wants to go next?
29:59Okay.
30:00So actually, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:09I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:12I really didn't want to put anything in it.
30:20Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
30:23You've been getting in my face.
30:24You've been getting in my husband's face.
30:26Wow.
30:26Wow, I've been doing this.
30:27You only got in my face at my birthday party last year.
30:30So I'm back to that.
30:31We got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party.
30:34It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me.
30:36And if she want to have an issue with me, that's not true.
30:43Actually, with my basket, I didn't have anything in it.
30:50I really couldn't think what to put in it.
30:54My thoughts of Nell not putting anything in her basket, it was a little disappointing.
30:58I do wish that Nell would have put in a little bit more effort, especially with the ladies seemingly open to get to know her.
31:07Can I ask a question?
31:08Sure.
31:09Why did you not want to put anything in your basket?
31:13There was nothing that I felt like I needed to share or wanted to share.
31:17In this group, we're talking about being transparent.
31:19So we're trying to learn more about each other.
31:22This basket sharing moment is important for us to, you know, just learn something about each other that we don't already know.
31:29But at the end of the day, Nell is going to do what she's going to do.
31:33So was it because you didn't want to share?
31:35I couldn't think of anything I wanted to share in that moment.
31:39I think I've been very transparent.
31:42But in this group, transparency is used more as revenge.
31:47Revenge.
31:49Baked calculation.
31:51They pick and choose what they want to share, and I can do the same.
31:54And that's what I've chosen to do moving forward.
31:58Okay, so this is my basket here.
32:04And I have a couple of things in it.
32:07I have a golden egg because I have a heart of gold.
32:12That's my weakness and my strength.
32:14Friends.
32:15This is friends because I value my relationship with my friends.
32:20Most of my girlfriends are pretty much like my family because, of course, I don't have sisters.
32:26I'm the only girl.
32:27I have two younger brothers.
32:28And so my friendship is very, very, very important.
32:32If I allow you in my space, I love you and I care for you.
32:35That's why when my friends turn on me and hurt me, it hurts really, really bad because I love so hard.
32:44So, um, last but not least, after friendship, snake.
32:50Because once you bite me one time, it's a wrap for me.
32:53Letitia!
32:56You can always count on that chick for a little shade.
33:01Every single time, her.
33:04Because I love so hard, so I can't let you get to me again.
33:07Letitia brings out the prop snake, and it's obviously aimed for me.
33:12This is typical behavior for Letitia.
33:15Throw the rock, hide her hand, hit below the belt.
33:19That's what she does.
33:20Letitia came on this trip with the chip on her shoulder and the snake in her basket.
33:27It's like, how does that make us move forward in any form or fashion?
33:31And then she's slithering at that nail in me, like, what are you doing, girl?
33:34What?
33:35Okay.
33:36Uh, uh.
33:37That's it for me.
33:39It was a very good basket and very interesting.
33:42Well, it was my basket, so, hey, I'm happy y'all like it.
33:44And it's kind of interesting good.
33:46Well, I've enjoyed all of y'all and the sharing of your basket.
33:49And all the things that mean something to you and they're important to you.
33:52So, I hope it gives us a little bit more insight on each other on a deeper level.
33:57I feel like we could have gotten a little bit more for you, but I know we're taking steps.
34:02Like what?
34:03And that's actually why I asked the question, to be perfectly honest.
34:05Because I felt like there was a moment of when you said you weren't sure you wanted to put anything in there.
34:13Like, we want you to put stuff in there.
34:18We want to get to know you better.
34:19We want you to let us pass the outer layer.
34:22And that was exactly why I asked the question.
34:25That's fine.
34:26And I can receive that.
34:27I have a lot on my plate with my life right now.
34:38I have a huge family.
34:40I have adult children.
34:41I have a child care center.
34:43I have a lot going on.
34:44And it's like I'm not in the best space with the group.
34:50Even though you apologized to me, I know we had a moment.
34:54And then me and Leticia are still at it.
34:57But I'm not that close to you all to share some of my deepest things.
35:03That's the way I move.
35:05Like, for me to just share deep things, I have to be really close to you.
35:12Did she say something about us not being transparent?
35:15I mean, I'm just saying.
35:17Nell needs to learn how to communicate better.
35:19Her age, she needs to know how to properly communicate to us.
35:23Destiny, I think you did great.
35:24You know, for a start, I mean, A for effort.
35:26However, I don't know if it's going to be possible for all of us to move forward in this group
35:30because everybody's not being transparent.
35:34It's not okay that when somebody in the group go back and talk about another person to other ladies in the group,
35:41you know, and it gets back to the person that you're talking about,
35:43and you can't say it in their face.
35:45So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:47Well, one particular lady in the group.
35:55So that's my problem with these ladies in this group.
35:58Well, one particular lady in the group.
36:00You know, I feel like if you got something to say about me and about my marriage,
36:04about my husband and what I should be paying attention to,
36:07don't go say it to Destiny, don't go say it to Trish, but, you know, say it directly to me.
36:11I've said all I need to say to you.
36:15What?
36:15And you haven't said that to Destiny?
36:16We have talked about this.
36:17No, we haven't.
36:18When we tried to talk about it, your energy was extremely high, and you didn't want to talk about it.
36:22If I said anything about you, it was before I sat down and talked to you at the coffee shop.
36:29Oh, so your conversation with Destiny was before that?
36:32Before the coffee shop?
36:34When you talked to Destiny about me, and you told her that I need to watch the video of my husband,
36:38and about keeping your name on my mouth.
36:39I did say that.
36:40That was before we had our conversation at the coffee shop?
36:43Well, see, that's the thing.
36:45Whatever the timeline was, I will tell you this.
36:47I have said some s*** about you.
36:50When I talked to you at the coffee shop, at that time, I had not spoken to Destiny.
36:54Okay, so you talked to Destiny after the coffee shop.
36:55Yes.
36:56I think both of them are hurt and offended at this point, and I don't think either of them are doing a very good job of squashing this.
37:05And so I think that there's something under there that they haven't been able to get past.
37:12And I don't think Tisha's interested.
37:15It seems like Nell wants to have an issue with me, and if she want to have an issue with me...
37:17That's not true.
37:18What I was trying to do at the game night was talk to you and see why you went to Trish and said that I wasn't being transparent,
37:28and you told Destiny that I need to keep your s*** name out of my mouth,
37:32and you also told Destiny that I need to be concerned about the video of my husband.
37:36And that was not okay.
37:37And so my thing is that we would never be okay, because I don't like how you move.
37:44I don't like the fact that we met, and I broke down in front of you, and I thought we had a moment,
37:51but yet, and still, you go back and s*** on me to Destiny.
37:54That's not okay with me.
37:55And that's not something I expect from a woman of your age who said,
38:00I'm a mentor or I am a life coach.
38:03If you had an issue with me, we said at the coffee place, come and talk to me.
38:07Don't go talk about me to Destiny.
38:09Don't go talk about me to Trish.
38:10Don't go talk about me to Kimmy.
38:11You can come directly to me and tell me what the problem is.
38:14I've never not stated where I stand with any and everything.
38:19If I said it once, I said it again.
38:20I don't have an issue with you.
38:21I haven't said anything about you.
38:23When I met with Destiny, my thing was, once again, here we go,
38:28Letitia got her mother s*** name in her mouth.
38:31Like, why does she keep talking about this thing with my son, my grandchild?
38:39Why we keep here?
38:41Why we keep talking about my issues?
38:45Like, I don't like her, because she is the type of person that when you say,
38:49hey, this right here hurts, if you cut right here, it hurts,
38:52and they poke you right there.
38:54No, that's not true.
38:56And I don't like people like this.
38:57I'm not that type of person.
38:57That's exactly what you did.
38:59I'm not that type of person.
39:00That's exactly what you did.
39:04Tisha is telling a damn lie.
39:06For Tisha to say that I'm a cruel person,
39:10it shows how little she knows me.
39:12That is not who I am.
39:14That is not what I stand for.
39:16That is not even my character.
39:17That is who she is.
39:20So she's deflecting on her own self.
39:22You've been getting in my face.
39:24You've been getting in my husband's face.
39:26Wow, I've been doing this.
39:27You done got in my face at my birthday party last year.
39:30You got in my husband's face at Trish's birthday party this year.
39:34So do we move on?
39:35Do we talk about something?
39:36Well, even at Fleshtivity, you brought all these things back up.
39:39I did?
39:40We clearly can't move forward because even with me apologizing for certain things,
39:44there's still underlying surface things there.
39:50This trip has officially not gone as planned.
39:52Turned up, Tisha came to just fight with everybody.
39:55Yeah, this is not what I wanted.
39:58It's like you excused everything you did.
40:00I'm not excusing anything, babe.
40:01I took ownership of mine.
40:02Okay, and I've took ownership of mine.
40:04Oh, have you?
40:05Yes, I have.
40:06I ain't heard ownership of .
40:07You tell me what I didn't take ownership of.
40:08I don't care, babe.
40:09I don't neither.
40:10Okay, check.
40:16Next on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
40:18When I look at you dead in the eye and say, hey, Tisha, I'm doing the best I can.
40:22Just because you don't see it happening, there's a lot of stuff that you don't see.
40:25I would think that after 20 years of being together, I think that maybe once you could just understand
40:33that I'm the guy that kind of maybe you could listen to.
40:35I still think that you have some portions of yourself that haven't been vulnerable enough
40:42or open enough or accountable enough to the parts that you can do better.
40:47I'm doing this therapy because, first of all, nobody has all the answers.
40:53I don't need a bunch of cliché.
40:55I need stuff I can actually use on a regular basis, something that matters.
41:01I think it's easy for you to blame me.
41:05Do you know what the problem is with you and Letitia?
41:08You and Marcia.
41:08The problem with you and Letitia is me and Marcia.
41:13Yeah.
41:13She better leave me alone.
41:16Letitia.
41:17Yeah.
41:18Before I come for her damn marriage on some that I do know for sure.
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