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00:00Every time one of these things happen, everyone wants to tar the whole religion with the same brush of extremism,
00:06which we don't do with other religions when people do it in, you know, if they're extreme Christians or Hindus or whatever it may be.
00:13It's not the same rule applied.
00:15When he threw himself in the fire, he was thinking to himself, I am a Muslim or I am an Australian.
00:22He dropped his entire interest. He risked his life, his physical body, his future, and he jumped into the fire to stop the killer.
00:34At that moment, he was not a Muslim. He did not have any identity. He was pure, pure potential, pure humanity.
00:42The world is waiting to see what are the reactions. Well, this is one reaction which we must see.
00:52This is the son of Hamas, Musab Yosef. Let's listen to his reaction to the massacre in Sydney, Australia, on the first day of Hanukkah.
01:03First of all, your reaction to this appalling terror attack in Sydney.
01:07Well, this is horrible. This is the outcome of two years of hateful indoctrination, demonizing the Jews, dehumanizing and delegitimizing Israel.
01:25What we were expecting, this has been a jihad campaign against the Jewish minority, and most people are in denial.
01:34It started on October 7th, and actually it started way before October 7th.
01:39But instead of understanding Israel's position, that Israel had no choice but to fight and eliminate Hamas,
01:50the world accused Israel of committing genocide.
01:55Then so many false narratives were built on the theory that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
02:04And that led to the hatred against the Jewish people.
02:08It led to the Sydney attack, to Manchester attack, and it will lead to more attacks.
02:14Many times I said falsehood will eventually lead to violence, false narrative of occupation, of genocide, of ethnic cleansing.
02:27Things actually don't exist in reality.
02:31There is a tragedy in Gaza.
02:34Nobody is celebrating this tragedy in Israel.
02:38No Israeli politician or citizen wanted to go into Gaza.
02:44It's not a fun trip.
02:46It's not a walk in the park.
02:48Israel, after the atrocity of October 7th, had to send its best men to die in Hamas booby traps,
02:59where they cannot even differentiate combatants from civilians.
03:04Where the terrorists, jihadists used their own people as human shields.
03:10So the outcome has been catastrophic.
03:13We understand this.
03:15But the world, instead of understanding Israel's position, what they did, they have been accusing Israel.
03:22They have demonized the Jewish people.
03:24And now they want to go after, in a Jewish hunt, after the Jewish people worldwide.
03:32And nobody is stopping them.
03:34They are going unchecked.
03:35What did they mean when they said, globalize the Intifada, from the beginning?
03:40They triumphed on October 8th.
03:43They celebrated the atrocities against civilians.
03:47And since then, they have been saying, globalize the Intifada.
03:52What did they mean by globalizing the Intifada?
03:54It means taking it to Sydney, take it to New York, take it to LA.
03:58Just the other day, the FBI exposed a plot targeting Los Angeles for plans to attack simultaneously at New Year's Eve.
04:13And they are affiliated with the pro-Palestine.
04:16They are not jihadists.
04:17They are not Muslims.
04:19They are leftists.
04:20But their ideology now is free Palestine and free Hawaii.
04:26This is what the FBI found with those guys.
04:29So the hateful indoctrination does not go in void, Pierce.
04:34This is what we need to understand.
04:36So here's the question I have for you, because you know a lot about this issue.
04:40You know both sides of the issue.
04:43You've lived on both sides of the issue.
04:46Here you had in Sydney a situation where a father and son had clearly become radicalized.
04:53They've been in Australia for a number of years since the early 2000s in the case of the father.
04:58Seemingly living normal lives in the communities.
05:02One slight red flag with the son a few years ago, which the authorities, perhaps wrongly as it's turned out,
05:09concluded was not serious enough to warrant further investigation about who he was associating with.
05:14And then they become full blown ISIS, you know, banners in their car and they go and attack any Jewish people think they can target.
05:23But we also saw a Muslim go in and display extraordinary courage in stopping one of these assassins.
05:33And for his trouble getting shot up and is now in hospital recovering, thankfully.
05:37And it raises, I guess, the complexity of this, which is there are two billion Muslims in the world and there are 15 million Jews.
05:47So a massive disparity in the numbers there.
05:50But people keep telling me, you know, a lot of Muslims agree with these Islamists.
05:55A lot of Muslims share this feeling to which my instinctive response is, well, if that is the case, if even you had 10 percent of the world's Muslims who felt that way, that's 200 million people.
06:10So there would be these atrocities happening all the time and they're not.
06:14And in fact, I would go further and say that about 80 to 90 percent of all the victims of Islamist terrorism are fellow Muslims.
06:22Right. So it's not as straightforward as some people with their own agendas like to portray this issue.
06:30What do you feel about the reality here?
06:33How many of the Muslim population do you think share a hatred of Jews, for example?
06:39How many would have sympathy with Hamas or Hezbollah or the Houthis or ISIS or whatever it may be?
06:46You know, what is the reality?
06:48Because if it was hundreds of millions, I would just assume the whole planet would be in flames all the time.
06:53And it's not.
06:54And I feel very strongly for Muslim friends of mine that I know that every time one of these things happen, everyone wants to tar the whole religion with the same brush of extremism,
07:05which we don't do with other religions when people do it in, you know, if they're extreme Christians or Hindus or whatever it may be.
07:12It's not the same rule applied.
07:14So what do you feel about that?
07:18First of all, speaking of a father and son, as you know, my father wanted me to follow his footsteps of becoming a Hamas terrorist, basically.
07:31And this is when I dropped that idea and I went against the interest of the family.
07:36On the other hand, I was born a Muslim myself.
07:40I studied Islam.
07:41I studied classic Arabic.
07:43I memorized huge portions of the Quran.
07:46I prayed to Allah five times a day.
07:49I was a devout Muslim.
07:50I was born in the mosque, literally in the mosque.
07:54I went to a Sharia school.
07:56I studied the Islamic law.
07:58And, but at some point, when I realized that it was a dead end, that it was leading to more violence, and that nothing could satisfy the Islamic ambition, I had to drop that Islamic identity.
08:15By the way, speaking of this hero in Sydney, and I tell you from personal experience, that this man, in that moment, he dropped all his identity.
08:28You think when he was, when he threw himself in the fire, he was thinking to himself, I am a Muslim, or I am an Australian.
08:37He dropped his entire interest.
08:39He risked his life, his physical body, his future, and he jumped into the fire to stop the killer.
08:48At that moment, he was not a Muslim.
08:50He was, he did not have any identity.
08:52He was pure, pure potential, pure humanity.
08:56This is what we need to see.
08:58And after that, you know, people labeled him a Muslim.
09:00Why?
09:01Because they have guilt.
09:03And especially the same crowd that has been demonizing the Jews and calling to slaughter the Jews, those are the ones who found opportunity to identify with heroism.
09:16They want to be, they want it to be heroism when it's convenient, when it suits their narrative.
09:23But they did not see the other side, the killer, the embodiment of evil who was shooting civilians.
09:30They should actually identify with the other side, with the dark side.
09:35Because this is the actual manifestation of their hateful indoctrination over the last two years.
09:41They have celebrated October 7th.
09:43Then they celebrated ballistic missile attacks on civilians in Israel, where they ran like, they, it was insane to see that celebration against civilians and the indiscriminate attack against civilians.
09:59And many of them, by the way, back in the day, also celebrated suicide bombing attacks.
10:05So now the thing is, is the problem is not with the Muslims.
10:09The problem is with Islam itself, with jihad itself.
10:13And jihad is a unique concept only to the religion of Islam.
10:18You cannot find it in Christianity.
10:20You cannot find it in Buddhism.
10:21You cannot find it in Buddhism.
10:22Right, but what I would say to that too.
10:23Not in Hinduism.
10:24Okay, but Muslim.
10:25Just let me, let me finish.
10:26Okay.
10:27Please, please let me finish.
10:29So the thing is, the Muslims, the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people.
10:36They don't want violence.
10:38This is the human nature.
10:39The human nature is against violence.
10:40This is what makes us different than the animals.
10:43But the problem, when Muslims identify with Islam, they give cover to the jihadists.
10:51And in many cases, they identify with something they completely oppose.
10:56And this is the identity crisis within Islam.
11:00And this is why I say to many of those peaceful Muslims who identify with Islam.
11:05And they could be in the hundreds of millions who don't even know the Quran.
11:09Who don't know the Islamic law.
11:10Who don't know that they are actually required for physical and financial and social jihad.
11:16If they don't understand it, if they haven't gone to a sharia school like I did, they go identifying because they think this is their ethnicity.
11:24But it's not.
11:25It's a labor slapped on them.
11:27And I think in a moment where they have to choose between the higher interests of humanity or some identity given to them by their parents, they have to choose the higher interests of humanity.
11:41When I meet a Muslim, usually, as long as they haven't identified as a Muslim, I only see their individuality.
11:49I see a human being in front of me.
11:51And I am able to communicate with them on a personal level.
11:55Now, the moment they slap or they just raise the religious card, this is when I am concerned.
12:03This is when I don't trust that person.
12:06The only time when they identify as a Muslim.
12:09But as long, if you really want to be a good person, you don't need actually to be anybody.
12:15You don't need the identity.
12:17You can just show me who you are through your practice, not through the theories that are given to you.
12:23Especially theories from the seventh century.
12:25So here we, okay.
12:26You know, Ahmad showed the entire world.
12:28Ahmad showed the entire world through practice.
12:30Through practice.
12:31Through practice.
12:32Who he is.
12:33If I was a Muslim listening to this, I'd say, okay, this guy used to be a Muslim.
12:38And he says, we shouldn't identify as a Muslim.
12:41Okay.
12:42That's an argument.
12:43But you're a Christian convert.
12:44So my immediate response would be if I was one of them.
12:47If I was a Muslim, I'd say, well, why do you identify as a Christian then?
12:51If you don't want people to be identified by religious labels, why did you convert to Christianity?
12:57Why do you call yourself a Christian?
12:58It's the same argument.
12:59It's just another religion.
13:01Well, this is basically a label that is given to me.
13:07I don't identify how many times we had conversations.
13:10I don't identify as a Christian.
13:12Well, let me ask you.
13:13Are you a Christian?
13:14I am influenced by the teachings of Yeshua.
13:19Okay.
13:20This is very different thing.
13:22It inspired me.
13:23The principle of love thy enemy, of unconditional love, of forgiveness.
13:30So these were very important principles when I was finding my way out of Islam.
13:35Okay.
13:36But are you a Christian or not?
13:37Are you a Christian or not?
13:40I don't identify as a Christian.
13:42Okay.
13:43Because what is Christian?
13:44What denomination?
13:45What book?
13:46What fellowship?
13:48If I had to identify as a Christian, it could be anything.
13:51It could be extreme Christian.
13:53It could be crucified.
13:54Okay.
13:55So my question, myself, why were you baptized in 2004 as a Christian?
13:59It was a symbolic thing.
14:02But why?
14:03Why would you do that?
14:04I did not.
14:05It was symbolic.
14:06It was a symbolic event.
14:08It was a closing chapter.
14:10But surely symbolic of becoming a Christian.
14:13That's why you do it.
14:14No.
14:15Baptism, for me, it was symbolic.
14:18And I get baptized every day.
14:22I have been a yoga practitioner for almost 15 years.
14:26I haven't been to a church for 15 years.
14:29So now you can also label me by things that I did some 15 years ago.
14:34I am not saying.
14:35Who do you pray to?
14:36I don't pray.
14:40Because usually when you have to pray, you have to ask for something materialist.
14:44I don't pray for anything.
14:45Okay.
14:46I'm responsible for my actions.
14:48And I don't need much in this life.
14:51All I need to just be able to breathe freely, be able to walk freely, and to see children
14:59out of the harm's way, to see women safe.
15:04This is where the society where I came from.
15:07And unfortunately, you know, we look at the Muslim world.
15:11How do they treat their women?
15:13Forget about the West and the peaceful people, your friends that you hang out with, and you
15:18have good time.
15:19Look at the Muslim world.
15:21How do they treat their women?
15:23How do they treat their children?
15:25The child abuse and the child indoctrination.
15:27This is what actually define a society.
15:30And this has been my journey.
15:32You know, that I overcome so many obstacles to find my freedom.
15:37And of course, I did not leave the religion of Islam to come to the religion of Christianity.
15:42You know, actually, for those who understand the essence of Yeshua's teachings, they find
15:49freedom out of religion.
15:51They don't go and lock themselves up in a church.
15:54This is why I don't identify.
15:56Do you celebrate Christmas?
15:59I don't celebrate holidays.
16:03For me, they are meaningless.
16:05For me, I celebrate life.
16:07I celebrate every day.
16:08I only ask you, Marcel, because...
16:09When I wake up in the morning, it's like a new birth.
16:12I understand that.
16:13I only ask you because I was going to end the interview, which has been fascinating.
16:16I always enjoy having you on Uncensored, but I was going to end the interview by wishing
16:19you a Merry Christmas.
16:20But in light of what you've just said, I won't.
16:24You still can wish me a Merry Christmas.
16:27I'm not against it.
16:28So when I say I don't identify as a Christian, doesn't mean I don't celebrate with my Christian
16:34friends.
16:35Now we are celebrating Hanukkah.
16:37I am also happy to celebrate with Muslims, you know, if they don't kill me.
16:42Because I renounce my religion.
16:46Okay.
16:47So the thing is, we are all children of life.
16:49And we can always find the truth as long as we are truthful.
16:54We must drop the mask and stop pretending and just be truthful to who we are.
17:00Masab, really good to talk to you.
17:02Thank you very much indeed for coming back on Uncensored.
17:04And I wish you a very Merry Christmas.
17:07Thank you very much.
17:09Happy holidays.
17:10Masab Yosef Hassan, God bless your soul.
17:14And God bless you for your bravery to have been able to understand and appreciate humanity
17:25and your obsession now is about the living versus the way you grew up, which was about
17:31the dead.
17:32You are truly a legend.
17:34It's not too often that we get a chance to get a peek into the life of Hamas.
17:41You were born into it.
17:43You grew up with it.
17:44That was the only thing you knew.
17:46You grew up with hatred.
17:47You grew up with darkness, with death, with carnage in your future.
17:52And yet, God gave you the impetus, the epiphany to realize that there are other options in
18:01life.
18:02What you presented here with Pierce Morgan was spot on.
18:07And we really appreciate it.
18:09And I'm sorry that Pierce really grilled you on several questions and you answered them
18:14very masterfully as you always do.
18:17But it's not like you didn't tell this to us before.
18:20It's not like you didn't warn the world that this is what's coming.
18:26It has been very loud and clear when we saw marches, pro-Palestinian marches, and they
18:36say the words by any means.
18:39We now know what they mean when they're holding those banners, by any means.
18:44When the word global intifada, globalizing the intifada, is not just words, they're action.
18:52It's a call to action, globalizing the intifada.
18:56You know how far Australia is from Israel?
19:00What in the world do Jews observing Hanukkah peacefully on the beach of Australia have to
19:08do with the intifada that's going on in Israel?
19:14Globalizing the intifada that has become the call to action to the death cult, murders, mercenaries,
19:25savage barbarics who are looking, barbarism to, who are looking to create as much death
19:33and bloodshed, pain and suffering as possible to the Western world.
19:37When is the world going to wake up and realize that we are at war?
19:43This isn't just some one-off.
19:46These events are happening and repeating itself more and more and more, and they are a direct
19:53result of the incitement.
19:57When the countries allow the protests of such hateful, insightful protests, they are setting
20:04the stage for a massacre and blood is on your hands.
20:08Absolutely.
20:09I can personally testify to that because I am a survivor of a mass shooting that occurred
20:17at our temple on April 27, 2019 by an anti-Semite who was incited on the internet and he went
20:27out and bought an AR-15 and breached our synagogue, the lobby, and shot and killed Lori Kaye right
20:34in front of me as I was talking with her.
20:37And then he took aim at shooting and killing me.
20:40I heard children playing behind me and I ran towards them to save them.
20:45But he got four bullets off.
20:48These two fingers were hit by the bullets.
20:51He came with enough ammunition to kill every single person that was in the synagogue that
20:57day.
20:58Miraculously, they all survived as some brave men chased him out.
21:04But he was 19 years old.
21:06A direct result of the rhetoric that has been spewed on the internet and elsewhere, the anti-Semitism
21:14that has been allowed, not just tolerated, allowed and promoted amongst the society became
21:21fashionable to be anti-Semites, anti-Semitism.
21:25This must stop.
21:27How much more bloodshed does the world have to endure before it wakes up and says enough
21:32is enough?
21:34As Mr. Bibi Netanyahu has said many of times as the Prime Minister of Israel, the war that
21:42Israel has fought the last two years in Gaza wasn't a war to defend Israel.
21:48It was a war to defend the Judeo-Christian and Western societies.
21:53This is a religious war.
21:56This is a war where they want to obliterate any religion that's not theirs.
22:02When is the world going to take off their blindfolds and take their head out of the sand and realize
22:07that this is a very serious problem in the 21st century?
22:12They are pulling us back to the 7th century.
22:15We have moved forward.
22:17We have embraced the gifts that God has given us in the 21st century versus they are pulling
22:22us back.
22:23World, wake up and see the truth and understand that the Jewish people are good people.
22:31We have lived our life based on God and the Bible.
22:36We love life.
22:37We are obsessed with the living.
22:39We are obsessed with life.
22:41All we want to do is to be a light unto the nations.
22:46Who do you want to side with in this time of history?
22:49Do you want to side with a group of people who are just fighting to do everything right
22:53for the sake of humanity?
22:54Or do you want to side with a death cult that's all darkness, evil, death, carnage, even if
23:00they claim just a small percentage, a small percentage of 2 billion or millions, hundreds
23:05of millions?
23:06The world cannot accept another pre-Holocaust era.
23:13We lived through that in the 1930s.
23:15We are living through it right now.
23:17We have a chance now to stop it.
23:20Let's pray to God that we can stop it now and reverse whatever damages that were done.
23:27Those who don't want to live in this country peacefully and gracefully and appreciate America
23:35should not stay in America.
23:38They should go back home if that's where you want to be.
23:40If you want to be here in America, do what my ancestors did when they came to America.
23:45They kissed the ground.
23:46They were grateful to be American.
23:48They respected the land.
23:49They honored the land.
23:50They were grateful for the land.
23:51They pledged allegiance to the United States of America and its constitution.
23:56They chanted, long live America, not death to America.
24:01This must end.
24:02We must obliterate any hate rhetoric whatsoever.
24:07It's not free speech.
24:09It's hate speech.
24:10It's insightful speech.
24:11Those protests must be disbanded at any time.
24:15I'll never forget watching in Sydney, Australia on the Harbour Bridge, the iconic Harbour Bridge.
24:22Thousands gathered together chanting hate to Israel, death to Israel.
24:27And the Australian government just allowed that to happen.
24:30Free speech?
24:31That's not free speech.
24:33That's a death call.
24:36December 14, 2025, Bondi Beach massacre is a result of that.
24:45The world needs to learn from this.
24:47And not to allow free speech to create such carnage, death, and senseless, painless suffering to so many.
25:01God bless you.
25:02God loves you.
25:03God loves you.
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