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00:00What if you can walk out of here with a check for $1.5 million?
00:14So, me walking out of here with essentially what would be an advance is appetizing.
00:20This particular piece means a lot to me.
00:23The deal needs to be right.
00:25100%.
00:25The 1.5 is nice, but we know his card's going to sell for 1.5.
00:28Of course it's going to go for more, yes.
00:29So, it may need to be a little higher.
00:33What would make you happy walking out of here and lay with?
00:35Today, right now?
00:36Right now.
00:37You will write the check right now?
00:39Yes.
00:40You got the funds?
00:43I'd have to, of course.
00:45Hmm.
00:48Got an expensive wedding.
00:54$3 million?
00:55$3 million? I'll tell you what.
00:57What I can do and I can justify, write your check right now for $2.5 million.
01:03In fact, let me just...
01:07I will literally...
01:10I'm just going to do it right now.
01:16This guy's crazy.
01:19I got to get the number zeros right.
01:212.5 mil.
01:29Do you have a deal?
01:30You are a crazy person.
01:32I've been told that before.
01:33You're crazy.
01:34I've been told many times.
01:35Uh, I have to say, my heart tells me to do this deal with you, and so I will do the deal with you.
01:43Great.
01:44Great.
01:44Now give me that.
01:45Logan is walking out of here with $2.5 million in hand as an advance against the final proceeds.
01:56And he's getting a percentage of everything we sell in this special auction.
01:59Nobody else would dare give away a piece of everything they're selling.
02:04I'm doing it because I'm Ken F. and Golden, and I know that I'm going to get my consignors
02:1050% to 200% more than they would get otherwise.
02:15There is one thing.
02:16What?
02:16I need the card for another month.
02:18At least some appearances, some stuff I got to take you to.
02:22Take the check.
02:23That's our deal.
02:24It's binding.
02:26Hit me up when you're done with that, and you'll hand it back off to me.
02:28Okay, I trust you.
02:29You have my word.
02:30I know, I know.
02:31I know where you live.
02:32This will go through?
02:33That's going to go through.
02:34You see this?
02:36Zoom in on this.
02:36This is the biggest check I ever received.
02:39This is crazy.
02:40Who would have thought?
02:41Some kid from Ohio.
02:42There you go.
02:43Thank you, Ken.
02:52Who said it, who we got to knock off?
02:55Because you mixing with me is like keys in a sock drawer.
02:58I'm at the top, and that's what I'm going to say.
03:01Carly, you're on the mound.
03:02This is a game.
03:03It counts.
03:05Oof.
03:07She keeps missing.
03:08I keep striking her out.
03:10Yes, you do.
03:10I got the right daughter playing baseball.
03:13We're going to have to save your equipment.
03:15You know, your best hit balls.
03:16We're going to have to sell on eBay.
03:17I am excited about my kids' baseball season.
03:23Perfect.
03:24Not only did Paul make the 12U district team going for a repeat in state championship, but
03:30possibly World Series this year, but his younger sister, my daughter Carly, who's seven, made
03:35the boys' seven U tournament baseball team.
03:40Dude, if he hits like this.
03:42Yeah, I know.
03:42This guy does do it every time.
03:43I know.
03:44It looks great.
03:46Hey, Katie.
03:46What's going on?
03:47Hey, Ken.
03:48Sorry to bother you.
03:48I know you're busy.
03:49Um, but I just got off a call with a guy named John from Los Angeles.
03:54Um, he says his family inherited a bunch of T-206 cards, and he has a home as Wagner.
04:01It's not real.
04:03Every single time we get a Wagner that is not graded, it's a reprint.
04:07But let me, did you get, is that, is that you texting me?
04:10Okay, hold on.
04:13Oh, they've got this framed with a whole bunch of other cards that were not reprints.
04:18Hold on.
04:18Let me, let me zoom in on this Wagner.
04:20Whoa.
04:22Oh, my God.
04:23Katie, this looks legit.
04:24I, I, I need you to book me a flight to LA right now.
04:28And I, I mean now.
04:29Okay.
04:30Unfortunately, Logan and I didn't get the T-206 Honus Wagner.
04:33Wow.
04:34And all of a sudden, an unknown Honus Wagner comes out of the blue and drops itself in
04:40my lap.
04:41I'm pumped.
04:43Laura, I need you to do me a favor.
04:44When they were done, I needed to drive them home.
04:47The guy in LA might have a real Wagner.
04:51A real one?
04:51A real one, yes.
04:53Okay.
04:53You gotta go get that.
04:54Yes, I do.
04:55Laura's gonna take you home.
04:56I will be back soon.
04:58Thank you, honey.
04:59I'll see you.
04:59Good luck.
05:00Yep.
05:01Party time.
05:02Dad's gone.
05:03Ooh.
05:04Ooh.
05:04Let's go.
05:06Every step, you can count on me.
05:09On me.
05:10Every step, you can follow me.
05:12Action, action.
05:13Quit lapsing, lapsing.
05:14Eyes on the target.
05:15Flashing.
05:15Stick to the tactics.
05:17Never fall back.
05:17Do it just like a crack.
05:20Does any of you guys know what this is?
05:22Is that Darth Vader?
05:23I don't know what that is.
05:23That's right.
05:24Darth Vader.
05:25There's only two in the world.
05:26It's a 1977 Kenner first shot, Darth Vader,
05:31Dullo telescoping lightsaber mushroom tip.
05:34What's that?
05:35Mushroom tip?
05:35Mushroom tip.
05:37Like it says that on the slab?
05:38Yes.
05:39Okay.
05:40It's very, very, very, very slight.
05:41I mean, think of a mushroom tip.
05:43Yeah.
05:43He's thinking of one.
05:45Look at that.
05:47You see it right at the bottom of the stick?
05:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:49You see the little tip?
05:50No, it's a nice mushroom tip.
05:51Ryan, Carla, what do you guys got going on?
05:53A couple meetings today.
05:54Got a big mint package coming in,
05:55so that's always fun.
05:56Always a good one.
05:56Always fun.
05:57Yeah.
05:57Nice.
05:58I mean, you guys,
05:58I've been talking about this Kaitlyn Clark card now, right?
06:00I'm fired up.
06:01It's her first big card in an Indiana Fever uniform.
06:05Oh, my God.
06:06People have been waiting for the WNBA to pop for years.
06:08I remember 10 years ago,
06:10we tried to do something with WNBA players.
06:12The money just wasn't there,
06:13so we kind of, you know, moved on.
06:14But I don't know.
06:15I mean, I think we're going to see a six-figure sale
06:17from Kaitlyn Clark soon enough, man.
06:19Kaitlyn Clark changed the landscape of women's basketball.
06:22The Kaitlyn Clark effect is real.
06:25She has transcended women's basketball,
06:27and she's just taken off.
06:30In the NBA and in the 70s,
06:32the league was tanking, right?
06:33It wasn't popular,
06:34and here comes Bird and Magic,
06:36and they pretty much saved the NBA.
06:40She kind of is doing the same thing.
06:41Now they're flying private.
06:43They're selling out stadiums.
06:44The league is becoming profitable.
06:46I'm a fan.
06:46We're all fans.
06:47And you see it in the cards.
06:49Her cards are exploding.
06:51I'm thrilled to be a part of it.
06:52Just a little part of it,
06:53but I absolutely love it.
06:54You know, my boy hit it,
06:56John Greco out of Chicago.
06:57He can sign it with me.
06:58I got to do right by him.
06:59And, you know,
07:00we think it's going to be
07:01her first six-figure card, man.
07:02It's got potential.
07:03Johnny Greco and I,
07:05you know, we go back.
07:06It actually, our families go back.
07:08He's hardworking.
07:09His family crushed it.
07:10They own food distribution in Chicago,
07:12which is not easy to do.
07:13I have a lot of respect
07:14for John and the Greco family.
07:16He's a friend, man.
07:17He's a lot familiar.
07:17He's my paisan.
07:19Yo, Carlo, you ready to go?
07:20We got the card right here.
07:21I'm ready.
07:21You want to do the video
07:22on the Caitlin Clark right now?
07:23Let's do it right now.
07:24You guys mind I'm going to do it?
07:25I'm going to do it right here.
07:25Get out of here.
07:26All right, all right.
07:27Get out here, get a coffee.
07:28You want to get me a coffee or something?
07:29Yes, I will get it for you.
07:31Oh, baby, this thing is sick.
07:34I'm the reason why the fire burning
07:35Who I'm supposed to pass a torch to
07:37Many men are turning many men
07:39So don't you get too close
07:40Such as my scorch shoot
07:41Ultimate power
07:46Bow down and get devoured
07:48Ken!
07:53Hey, John.
07:54Good to meet in person.
07:55So nice to meet you.
07:57My name is John Abrams
07:58and I'm from Los Angeles.
08:00The Shields family
08:01are Dennis and Doug Shields.
08:05Dennis and Doug are brothers.
08:07Ken, welcome.
08:09Dennis Shields.
08:10Dennis, nice to meet you.
08:11You too.
08:11Douglas Shields, nice to meet you.
08:12Douglas, nice to meet you.
08:14Dennis went to elementary school
08:16with my Uncle Mike
08:17and they were lifelong friends,
08:19played sports together
08:20and then ultimately
08:21Dennis married Mike's sister,
08:23my aunt.
08:25It's a family affair.
08:26I sit right in front of Honus.
08:28Can you believe it?
08:35This is just ridiculous.
08:38So where would you like to begin?
08:39I thought I knew of every single legitimate T206 Honus Wagner,
08:48but let me just, let me just,
08:51oh wow, here we go.
08:54I mean, this is, this is,
08:55I mean, look, you guys have made my year.
08:58Seeing these cards in person,
09:00not only the Wagner,
09:01but everything else,
09:02all the Ty Cobb cards,
09:04to me,
09:05this is the biggest discovery
09:07in the hobby
09:07in the past 50 years.
09:09So I don't understand
09:11how this happened.
09:12I'd love to hear the story.
09:15Our grandfather had a silver manufacturing plant
09:19taught in Massachusetts
09:20and he decided he would come out to the West Coast
09:23and create a West Coast branch of it.
09:25Grandpa liked to decorate the offices
09:28with all this stuff that he's owned all of his life.
09:31He loved to be able to walk through his offices
09:33and see all the stuff that he collected
09:35as kids sitting on the walls.
09:39The story behind the Wagner
09:40and why it's so rare,
09:42it is part of a set of trading cards
09:44that were issued and inserted into tobacco.
09:48Honus Wagner,
09:49he did not want to encourage kids
09:51to collect cards
09:53with advertisements of cigarette companies
09:56on the back.
09:57So he had his card removed.
10:00A few of them escaped.
10:02Your grandfather at 10 years old
10:04is exactly
10:05why Honus Wagner wanted his card pulled.
10:09That's the...
10:10And then at some point
10:13they moved out of downtown L.A.
10:16and they got a larger warehouse
10:17in the city of Commerce.
10:19The warehouse,
10:21over 200,000 square feet.
10:23There was an area chain link fenced off.
10:26Dennis says,
10:26well, you know,
10:27there's this box over in the corner.
10:29So, you know,
10:30we pop it open
10:30and I'm going through things
10:32and there's birds
10:32and there's airplanes
10:33and I pull this one out
10:35and I go,
10:36oh my God.
10:39Do you have any idea
10:40what you have here?
10:43My brother and I
10:44have held onto these for years.
10:45It isn't for monetary issue,
10:48but it was the sentimental value
10:50that our grandfather
10:51held onto these things
10:53all of his life.
10:54And we held onto it
10:55just because we loved them.
10:57I've never been able
11:00to trace a Wagner
11:02that has stayed
11:03in only one family
11:05since the day the card came out.
11:08As a kid who was obsessed with it,
11:11and I mean obsessed with cards,
11:13the holy grail of collectibles
11:15being in my family
11:16was just a spectacular feeling.
11:19I always wanted to prove
11:20to everybody
11:21that we actually had it.
11:22Unfortunately,
11:23my uncles would never
11:25bring it out in public.
11:26So the question I have is
11:28after 115 years,
11:31why now?
11:32You know,
11:33with the urging
11:33of my brother,
11:35he finally decided
11:36that maybe it was time
11:37that we did something
11:38with them,
11:39you know,
11:39pass them on
11:40and give other people
11:42the chance to enjoy them
11:43and to put them out there
11:45where they'll be treasured.
11:46They're going to be treasured.
11:47And enjoyed.
11:48I'm going to put you
11:49on the spot a little bit.
11:50Sure.
11:51What do you think
11:51it's going to get graded?
11:52I think the card,
11:59if there is no back damage,
12:02is a one.
12:05Whoa.
12:07Amazing.
12:08Almost all T206 Honus Wagners
12:11are in low grade.
12:13In fact,
12:13a large percentage of them
12:15cannot even get
12:16a numerical grade
12:17because there's something missing
12:19or it's altered or restored.
12:20A PSA-1
12:22could be,
12:24worst case scenario,
12:26$4 million,
12:27maybe over $6 million.
12:29Oh.
12:30Whoa.
12:32Getting a numerical grade
12:35of PSA-1,
12:36in the case of a Wagner,
12:37is a pretty good grade.
12:40People dream
12:41of finding hidden treasure.
12:45This is going to be
12:45an inspiration to everybody
12:46who collects anything.
12:48I'm actually getting emotional
12:50about it, so.
12:52I'm ecstatic
12:52that it's going to be
12:54cherished somewhere.
12:56Yes.
12:56Because I think that's
12:57how Grandpa felt
12:59about these things.
13:00We're on board.
13:01Yep.
13:02We're on board.
13:04This will be
13:05worldwide news,
13:07but I want to be
13:08very, very careful
13:09to make sure
13:10that we don't spoil it,
13:12keep it secret,
13:13so nobody knows
13:14that the card exists
13:15until we bring it to market.
13:17I'm going to have security
13:18pick it up.
13:19You know,
13:19we're going to take it to PSA.
13:21We'll take one
13:21or the other,
13:22backs off,
13:23see how they're adhered,
13:25and then get graded.
13:26It is a staggering thing
13:28to think about,
13:29something that was sitting
13:30in a frame in a warehouse,
13:32you know,
13:32being worth millions of dollars.
13:34It is absolutely
13:35life-changing money.
13:36Would you mind
13:37taking a photo?
13:38We really believe
13:39that with Golden
13:40telling the story,
13:41bringing in the right group
13:42of collectors,
13:43that will be even more valuable
13:45than the monetary gain here.
13:54We're on a mission
13:55to find them.
13:58Just when you think
13:59you've seen everything,
14:00this is going to set out
14:02a whole new wave
14:03of people searching
14:04their attics,
14:05people looking through
14:06old books,
14:07people going through
14:08basements,
14:09grandparents.
14:10Thank Ken Golden.
14:11You're going to see
14:12your grandkids
14:13you may not have seen
14:13for years.
14:15Their search
14:15for hidden treasure
14:16is on.
14:21Damn, I love this job.
14:23Success is anything
14:24that you strive for.
14:25You put in the grind,
14:26then you grind more.
14:28Accomplish your goals,
14:29then you grind more.
14:30And you don't need the rest
14:31if you want to be the best.
14:33All right, so, Carla,
14:33you know what I'm thinking?
14:3445 seconds to a minute long.
14:36Just talk about her.
14:36She's on fire.
14:37Absolutely.
14:38Give me a smile.
14:39And whenever you're ready.
14:40This is the one
14:41everyone was talking about.
14:43Caitlin Clark,
14:44the 2024 Select
14:45Gold Final 101
14:47rated PSA 1010.
14:49It's got a perfect auto.
14:51This Caitlin Clark
14:51rookie card
14:52is available now
14:53at Golden.com.
14:54If you want it,
14:55don't wait your turn.
14:57None of this is given.
14:58Everything is earned.
15:03Morning, Ken.
15:04How are you?
15:05I'm doing good, Adam.
15:06What's going on?
15:07Well, I saw the numbers
15:08for last week's auction.
15:08It looks like business
15:10is still on fire.
15:11No, business is good.
15:13The modern card market
15:14has really picked up
15:16and we'll keep gaining market share,
15:18which is what we want to do.
15:19On the eBay side,
15:20it feels like
15:21the European market
15:22is really booming.
15:23Seeing trading cards
15:23taking off there
15:24in a way I've never seen before.
15:26Did I ever expect
15:28to be part of eBay?
15:30No, I never expected.
15:32They're looking
15:33to give Golden
15:34a platform
15:35to let us grow
15:37as big as humanly possible.
15:39We have shared ideals.
15:41We have the same passion
15:43for collectors
15:44and collectibles
15:44and we just want
15:46to grow the business together.
15:48We know the best buyers,
15:50you know,
15:50in terms for basketball
15:51internationally,
15:52you know,
15:53is still going to be Asia.
15:54I was actually just talking
15:55with our Japan team
15:56last night, Ken.
15:57They were talking
15:58and threw me
15:59through a number
16:00of opportunities
16:00in that market.
16:02Have you ever had
16:02the chance to get out there?
16:04I have never been
16:05anywhere in Asia
16:07in my life.
16:08In fact,
16:08the farthest
16:09I've ever traveled
16:10has been Monaco.
16:12Well, when I was talking
16:12to our Japanese team
16:13out there,
16:14they were telling me
16:15they've got a ton
16:16of whale buyers
16:17and sellers
16:18that are queuing up
16:19to meet the king
16:19of collectibles.
16:21Well,
16:21we'll have to see
16:23when that can happen.
16:24Well, I would love it,
16:25Ken,
16:26if you could do a trip
16:26out there
16:27as soon as possible.
16:29We should strike
16:29while the iron's hot.
16:30Going to Japan
16:32soon?
16:33This is legitimately
16:34my first
16:35major business trip
16:37with eBay.
16:39It's a little pressure
16:40because I don't know
16:41what they're expecting,
16:42but whatever it is,
16:43I have to deliver.
16:45Hey, everybody.
16:45How we doing?
16:46Hey, G.
16:47So I just got off a call
16:48and with the Otani sale,
16:51which obviously
16:52blew away
16:53our expectations,
16:55the consignor's expectations,
16:56but also got a lot
16:59of major media.
17:01And the winners,
17:03of course,
17:03were in Asia.
17:04The underbidders,
17:05of course,
17:06were in Asia.
17:07The one market
17:08that is as big
17:09as the U.S.,
17:10big as North America
17:11and collectibles,
17:11is Asia.
17:12Obviously,
17:13with baseball,
17:14with Pokemon,
17:15and so many other things.
17:16So the key is,
17:18we know the market's there.
17:19Let's bring Golden
17:21to them.
17:22Golden is going
17:23to Japan.
17:24Wow.
17:25What?
17:25Japan?
17:26I love that.
17:27I want to do it big.
17:29I want $2 million
17:30in consignments
17:31in Tokyo.
17:33I'm going to be learning
17:34as much as I can
17:35about Japanese culture.
17:36That means it's on you guys
17:38to hit that minimum.
17:40Ryan,
17:40what can you hook up?
17:42I mean,
17:42Mint's out there,
17:43so they're one of our
17:44biggest clients, period.
17:45100%.
17:46Mint is one of my biggest
17:48and best clients.
17:49I've been working with them
17:51since I first started
17:51this company.
17:52I know we've talked
17:53about it before,
17:54but the trophy's set,
17:55and if you'd be open
17:56to letting those go.
17:57And I know
17:58we've had an amazing
17:59relationship over Zoom calls
18:00and emails and phone calls,
18:02but being face-to-face
18:03with your best clients
18:04is just a different animal.
18:06And the fact that
18:07they know who I am,
18:08I have to be out in Japan.
18:10If you've got any
18:11great ideas,
18:12have any key clients,
18:14hit up Katie.
18:15She'll make a list.
18:16I gotta get going.
18:18Sayonara, bitches.
18:19Ooh!
18:20Let's go!
18:22Running up a check,
18:23that's a big flex.
18:24Diamonds on my neck,
18:25that's a big flex.
18:27Cash on deck, all set.
18:29Better come, come,
18:30correct, step, move, step.
18:33Roll up with a battery
18:34in the world's wide.
18:39The Caitlin Clark card
18:40that John hit,
18:41it's up for auction.
18:42He hit me up,
18:43he wants to come see me.
18:44I'm pumped to see him
18:44talk about the card,
18:46talk about the auction.
18:46Love seeing John.
18:49John.
18:50What's up, man?
18:51How's the family?
18:52Good, man.
18:52How about you?
18:52How's the kids?
18:53How's the wife?
18:53My buddy's good.
18:54Good, man.
18:55I, uh...
18:55Still married?
18:56Yeah, I'm hanging in there.
18:57There you go.
18:58Um, what's going on?
19:00I mean, you know your family,
19:01and I don't ever want
19:02to offend you.
19:03Okay.
19:04You know, I want to do
19:04this face-to-face.
19:05We gotta talk.
19:06The Clark.
19:07Okay.
19:08For the CC.
19:09There was another offer
19:10on the table.
19:11Private offer?
19:12Private offer.
19:13Okay.
19:14Um, what are we talking
19:16about number-wise?
19:17I was offered
19:17$120,000.
19:19That's pretty good.
19:20It's not a bad deal.
19:22I get why John's nervous.
19:23You know, we think
19:24it's a six-figure card.
19:25It's sitting there
19:26in the 30s
19:27with only two days left.
19:28I totally get it.
19:29But I'm optimistic.
19:30This is the way
19:30the auction world works.
19:31I was hoping it'd be
19:32a little bit higher by now.
19:33I'm not gonna lie, right?
19:34But, uh, I mean, John,
19:36you know, we gotta believe
19:37in the auction.
19:37There's still 48 hours left.
19:39I know it's not looking good now,
19:40but these things go crazy
19:42at the end.
19:42You know that, man.
19:43I'm getting a little nervous,
19:44I'll be honest with you.
19:44Like, what exactly
19:45are you looking for?
19:46I'm asking you
19:47from a family to a family.
19:48You just want me
19:50to pull the card.
19:53I know it's something
19:54I don't want to do.
19:56I believe in you.
19:57I believe in this auction.
19:58I believe in Golden.
20:00But, uh, I don't know, man.
20:01It's just something.
20:02I don't know
20:02if I can pass this up.
20:03Um, you know, look,
20:05obviously, if I could do
20:07anything for anyone,
20:08it would be you.
20:09You've done so much
20:10for me over the years.
20:11But we have the contract,
20:12we have the agreement.
20:13I can't pull the card,
20:15you know?
20:16I mean, Ken, I just,
20:17I know how, you know
20:17how we operate.
20:20Grow some balls
20:21and ask the guy.
20:27The plug like La Costa Nosa
20:29I just made money
20:31laying on my sofa
20:32My name is John Resnikoff,
20:35and I'm the chief authenticator
20:37at Golden.
20:38There he is.
20:39Hey, hey, hey!
20:40How are you?
20:41Long time no see.
20:42Good to see you.
20:42It's been a while.
20:43Yeah.
20:44I get a call
20:44from my friend Jack.
20:45He's, like,
20:46the biggest mob collector
20:47in the country.
20:48I think he's reached out
20:50with something in his pocket
20:51that's really good.
20:52This place is beautiful.
20:54It's really, really interesting.
20:55Like a throwback.
20:56Right.
20:56My buddy owns it.
20:57He said we could use it
20:58before it opened up.
20:59Did you see the name of it?
21:00The Auction House.
21:01How appropriate is that?
21:02It's perfect.
21:03My name is Jack Lepic,
21:05and I collect Mafia memorabilia.
21:08So this one,
21:09I know you've seen before
21:10because I got it from you.
21:11Yeah, this I recognize.
21:13Al Capone's very fancy napkin.
21:16When it comes
21:16to my Mafia collection,
21:18I'm not really comfortable
21:20with people touching it
21:22or consigning it.
21:23John is the only guy
21:25I will allow
21:25to consign my memorabilia.
21:27This is a personal photograph
21:29from Meyer Lansky's collection.
21:31Are you familiar
21:32with Meyer Lansky?
21:32Of course.
21:33Yeah, the mob accountant.
21:35Exactly.
21:36And in this photo,
21:37you can see Meyer Lansky
21:38standing there in the back,
21:39his wife, Teddy, right there.
21:42But the most interesting
21:43part of this photo
21:44is this lady
21:45is Bugsy Siegel's wife.
21:47No way.
21:48Right.
21:49And obviously,
21:50what's crazy about that
21:51is Meyer Lansky
21:52is responsible
21:53for the death
21:53of Bugsy Siegel
21:55right through the eye.
21:56So, clearly,
21:57she didn't know that
21:57if she's sitting here
21:58with him after the fact.
22:00That's incredible.
22:00I think that's
22:01a really, really good item
22:02and the story
22:03is just fantastic.
22:04What else you got there?
22:05I know you're gonna
22:06really like this
22:07because you're such
22:07a big fan of the film.
22:08This is an original script
22:10from Godfather 1,
22:12the opening scene.
22:14I love it.
22:15Here.
22:15Bonasera,
22:17what have I ever done
22:18to make you treat me
22:19so disrespectfully?
22:21It's fantastic.
22:23This is really great.
22:24One of the greatest movies
22:24of all time.
22:25I think this would do
22:27$20,000 to $30,000
22:28in auction.
22:29Wow.
22:29Just a couple pages
22:30of the script?
22:31Positively.
22:32It's so collected.
22:33Everybody wants it.
22:34I'd like to assign
22:35all these items with you.
22:37All right.
22:38All right.
22:39Thanks.
22:40Now,
22:41there's one thing
22:41I did bring to show you,
22:43but I want to be clear.
22:45This is just so
22:45I could show off to you.
22:48I get knocked down,
22:50but I get back up.
22:51The definition
22:52of a true warrior.
22:54I'm a pure assassin.
22:55You better check
22:55the coroner.
22:57I've never been able
22:59to break a contract before.
23:00I'm willing to have
23:01a conversation,
23:02but I just,
23:03I don't want to,
23:03I don't want to set
23:04unrealistic expectations.
23:06Let me talk to Ken.
23:07I'll give you a call.
23:08Just see what we can do.
23:09You've got to do me
23:10a favor on this one.
23:11I don't think it's something
23:12we can pass up.
23:13All right.
23:13Let me,
23:14let me talk to Ken
23:15and I'll give you a call,
23:16John, all right?
23:17Appreciate it.
23:17I love you, brother.
23:18Thanks.
23:18I'll talk to you soon, man.
23:23I'm just going to lose-lose here
23:25because in all my time
23:27here at Golden,
23:27I've never pulled a card.
23:29I've never brought it up.
23:30I've never thought about it.
23:31I know we don't do that,
23:32but John's a family friend.
23:34This is different for me.
23:35He's got a great offer
23:37on the card,
23:38much higher than
23:39where it's at now,
23:39and I'm going to bite the bullet.
23:41I'm going to talk to Ken.
23:45Hey, Ken.
23:46Sure.
23:46One sec.
23:49Jared, you are a lifesaver.
23:51This is going to be incredible.
23:52I look forward to seeing you
23:54in Tokyo.
23:55Thanks, buddy.
23:56Appreciate it.
23:56How's it going, Ken?
23:58It's going good.
23:59I just got us a location
24:01for everything in Tokyo,
24:02so I'm very pumped about that.
24:03Okay, that's huge.
24:04What's going on?
24:05I, um, look,
24:06you remember John Greco
24:08with the Caitlin Clark card?
24:09Yeah, of course.
24:09Our families go back
24:10a couple generations.
24:11Like, we're tight.
24:12We're boys.
24:13Um, it's not going so well
24:15right now on auction.
24:16He just got a $120,000
24:18private offer.
24:19Mm-hmm.
24:19This would set the all-time
24:20Caitlin Clark high right now,
24:22and it's just hard
24:23when it's like a family friend,
24:25you know?
24:25And I'm just...
24:26I don't know what to tell this guy.
24:27Like, I don't want to lose
24:29the relationship,
24:30but I know we can't pull it.
24:31I just...
24:32I'm kind of stuck on this one.
24:33Okay, well, obviously,
24:35we're not going to be
24:36in a position
24:38where we have people
24:39bid on an item
24:40and say,
24:40hey, I wonder if this item
24:42is going to be pulled,
24:43you know,
24:44before the final day
24:45because they're not happy
24:46with the price.
24:47Right.
24:47You know, people have confidence
24:49in Golden.
24:50We are the most trusted name
24:51in high-end collectibles.
24:53This is how we got there.
24:56You've got to have confidence
24:57in yourself.
24:58You've got to have confidence
24:59in the process.
25:00I know that you know
25:01the right answer.
25:02You always do the right thing,
25:04and you always get the job done.
25:07Carlo is coming to me
25:08about potentially pulling an item,
25:10but he knows we can't do that.
25:12The integrity of Golden,
25:14the sanctity of the auctions,
25:16and the trust that people have
25:18with the process,
25:19you know,
25:20beats any amount of money.
25:21You've got to separate
25:23friends and family
25:24from business.
25:26This is consigner angst.
25:28It happens all the time.
25:30I've got confidence
25:32in the Caitlin Clark market.
25:33I think that she is
25:34incredibly special.
25:36I think this is a big card.
25:37I think this card
25:38can set a record.
25:39So, relax.
25:42Calm yourself down.
25:43I expected to walk in there
25:44and be like,
25:45why are you telling me this?
25:46Get out.
25:47Go do your job.
25:48But, you know, listen, man,
25:49when you get the human,
25:50it's really nice.
25:51Usually you get the machine, right?
25:52You get Ken the machine,
25:54Ken the businessman.
25:55Give him a call.
25:56Okay.
25:57Talk him off
25:58the consigner cliff.
25:59Let him know
26:00the auction doesn't end
26:01until the clock runs out.
26:08All right.
26:10I want to be clear
26:11because I know who you are.
26:13I'm not selling it.
26:14Me?
26:15This is a gun,
26:18Colt 41,
26:19that was once owned
26:21by Al Capone.
26:23Get the hell out of here.
26:25So the story is
26:26Al Capone used to vacation
26:30in Wisconsin.
26:31And there was this resort
26:32owned by Bill Sells
26:33and his wife.
26:34Bill Sells actually introduced
26:36Al Capone to some bootleggers
26:37at one point.
26:38So they became friendly.
26:40And one time,
26:42Al Capone shows up
26:43to the resort
26:44with this gun
26:45and asks Bill Sells
26:47to keep it at the resort
26:48for him
26:49in case anything
26:50were to go down.
26:51Because I know
26:52you're going to ask,
26:53how do you know?
26:54But if you look
26:55at these photographs,
26:56you can clearly see
26:58Al Capone holding that gun.
26:59That is incredible.
27:02I mean,
27:02he's holding the gun.
27:03That's remarkable, Jack.
27:05That is remarkable.
27:06But let's talk
27:07about it a little bit.
27:08Obviously,
27:09I have to vet it.
27:10I have to make sure
27:11it's the right thing.
27:12I'm pretty sure it is.
27:13But there's no way
27:14I'm leaving without the gun.
27:16He knows it.
27:17I know it.
27:19We've known each other
27:20for a long time.
27:22I know you don't want
27:22to sell it,
27:23but I'm just curious.
27:24Can you tell me
27:25what you paid for it?
27:27What'd you pay
27:27for that watch?
27:29Not that much.
27:29Around six figures.
27:32Listen,
27:33I know the price history
27:35of Al Capone guns.
27:37And there was one
27:38at an auction
27:39in California
27:40that is not photo ID.
27:43That was supposedly
27:43one of his favorite guns.
27:45And that sold for a million.
27:46Mm-hmm.
27:47And the difference
27:48between photo ID
27:49and not photo ID
27:50is a universe.
27:52It's enormous.
27:53I mean,
27:54this is everything
27:56right here.
27:57What if I told you
27:58that I think
28:00I could get you
28:01a million dollars
28:02for this gun?
28:05A million dollars.
28:08Oh, man.
28:12For real?
28:13For real.
28:15When you talk like that,
28:17it's like now,
28:18you know,
28:19I've always, you know,
28:20wanted to be mortgage-free.
28:22You know,
28:22that's a dream.
28:24And if I could get
28:24a million dollars,
28:25I don't want to sell it.
28:27Is there a way
28:28to guarantee
28:29that I would
28:29get close to that?
28:31My fear is
28:31I've auctioned
28:32other stuff in the past
28:33and I have this idea
28:34of what I'm going to get.
28:36And then
28:36it doesn't come close to that.
28:38We want this.
28:39Mm-hmm.
28:40And we want to
28:40make you comfortable.
28:42I'd love to be responsible
28:44for helping to pay off
28:45your mortgage.
28:46Obviously,
28:46I'm going to give it
28:47my incredible scrutiny
28:48that I do for every item
28:49that I authenticate.
28:50But the fact that you have
28:52photos of him
28:53holding this gun,
28:54that really helps.
28:56We'll definitely
28:56go through it
28:57the way that we do
28:58with everything
28:58as far as proving
29:00that it's authentic
29:01before we sell it.
29:02But there's no way
29:03that I can guarantee you
29:05that it's going to sell
29:07for a million.
29:12Jack's my buddy
29:13and I know he's
29:14a little bit on the fence
29:15on consigning it.
29:17And I know he's looking
29:18to get seven figures.
29:21I have an idea
29:22that I think is going to
29:23push him over the edge.
29:26I happen to know
29:27of a situation
29:28where a guy
29:29purchased Jack Ruby's gun.
29:32He bought it
29:33for $250,000.
29:35He took Jack Ruby's gun
29:37and he fired
29:395,000 bullets
29:41and he made
29:42these beautiful presentations
29:44and those have sold
29:45for, on average,
29:47a couple thousand apiece.
29:49Hear me out.
29:49I want to get ammunition
29:51for the gun
29:51and I want to fire
29:52a limited amount
29:54of bullets
29:54from the gun
29:55and sell them
29:57a limited edition
29:58bullets fired
29:59from Al Capone's gun.
30:01This is a separate deal
30:02from the auction.
30:02I think that could
30:04generate a million dollars.
30:05I think that's
30:06an amazing idea.
30:08I mean, I'm just picturing
30:09early on collectors
30:10like myself
30:11who want a conversation piece,
30:13can't afford
30:14something like this.
30:15I think an Al Capone bullet
30:17would be very, very good
30:19to start their collection.
30:20I would have never
30:21thought of that.
30:22That's why you're the man.
30:23Let's do it, man.
30:23I'm ready.
30:24Let's rock.
30:25That changes everything.
30:26You're taking an item
30:27and getting another item
30:28out of it,
30:29several items out of it.
30:30And then you sell the gun.
30:32Yeah, you've convinced me.
30:34I will let you
30:36consign the gun.
30:39You're the man.
30:40You better be the man.
30:42I'm going to do it.
30:43He's good, man.
30:44He's good.
30:45He convinced me
30:46to sign the Al Capone gun,
30:48something I said
30:48I wouldn't do
30:49until retirement.
30:50Then I got the gun,
30:51the bullets?
30:52Are you kidding me?
30:53That kind of pushed
30:54it over the edge.
30:54I mean,
30:55I've never heard
30:55of that before.
30:56I'm excited.
30:57I'm excited.
30:58I only do this with you.
30:59You do know that, right?
31:00That's great.
31:00I do know that.
31:01I know.
31:02I won't disappoint.
31:03I promise.
31:03You broke me down, buddy.
31:04Good morning, Dennis.
31:21Hey, John.
31:21Hey, Mike.
31:22How you doing?
31:22Hey, Ken.
31:23Thank you guys
31:24for joining me today.
31:25It's a hot day
31:26in New Jersey,
31:27and I've got some
31:29hot news for you guys.
31:31All right.
31:31Give it to us.
31:32We're excited.
31:33Getting any numerical grade
31:35on a Wagner
31:36is a big deal.
31:38The difference between
31:39authentic
31:39and a one
31:40is millions.
31:42With this card,
31:43a one is wonderful.
31:45We took the card
31:47to PSA.
31:48They have confirmed
31:49the card is 100% authentic.
31:51Awesome, Ken.
31:52We are going to call this
31:55the Shields Wagner.
31:58So your grandfather
31:59is going to be known
32:01in the hobby forever
32:03for having this
32:05historic collection
32:06and being a pioneer
32:08of the trading card industry.
32:11Well, that's great.
32:13So, Ken,
32:14have they rated the card?
32:16Here's where we are.
32:18PSA awarded it
32:20a numerical grade,
32:21so we got a PSA 1
32:23on the card.
32:25And because of the history,
32:26because of the pedigree,
32:27we could be looking
32:28at $5, $6 million.
32:30No, f***ing one!
32:31Are you kidding me?
32:32Oh, my goodness.
32:33That's fantastic!
32:35That would easily
32:36annihilate the record
32:37for any PSA 1,
32:38so congratulations.
32:40This Wagner
32:41is more than just a card.
32:43It is a piece
32:44of American history.
32:45It is a family history.
32:48Never before
32:49in my industry
32:50have you been able
32:51to trace
32:52the origins of the card
32:54right to the person
32:55who opened up
32:56the packs
32:57and found it
32:57and it stayed
32:59in the family
33:00for 115 years.
33:02Never happened.
33:03Definitely will
33:04never happen again.
33:05This is just
33:06incredibly exciting.
33:07I am pumped for you.
33:09I am pumped for the hobby.
33:11PSA is very excited.
33:12They have agreed
33:13the card is actually
33:15not going to hit
33:16their population report
33:17until we come out
33:18and we announced
33:18the auction.
33:19It is going to be part
33:21of a special auction
33:22where we have
33:23all the cards
33:24from the Shields collection
33:25and give people
33:27a chance to own
33:28a piece of history.
33:30Wow.
33:31I am proud
33:32to represent
33:33this collection.
33:34I am proud
33:34to represent your family.
33:36We're going to kick butt
33:36together.
33:37Well done.
33:38Well done.
33:39You can't wear
33:40the bags of cash.
33:42We're glad you're
33:43on our side.
33:44Thank you, guys.
33:45Have a great one.
33:47Woo!
33:56Here's to a big
33:58auction close tonight.
33:59Cheers, brother.
34:00Carlito.
34:01Carlito.
34:02Carla.
34:05This is it.
34:06It's auction night.
34:07I am locked in
34:08on this Caitlin Clark card.
34:10There's a lot
34:10on the line here.
34:11I know John's
34:12probably freaking out.
34:13You know,
34:13everything happens late.
34:14I know I just
34:15got to hang in there.
34:16It's been busy as heck
34:17the last couple hours.
34:18You guys feeling
34:19the same way
34:19with your lots?
34:20It's been going
34:20really good.
34:21Carl, remember,
34:21you obviously remember
34:22Josh Dawson, bro.
34:23Is that the PSA 10
34:24exquisite?
34:24PSA 10, yeah.
34:25Oh, 9 exquisite.
34:25Yeah, I mean,
34:26he actually wanted
34:27like around 150.
34:28It's already at 140
34:28before, you know,
34:30where you have hours
34:30and hours left,
34:31so we're sitting
34:31really pretty right now.
34:33Carlo, the Caitlin Clark
34:35WNBA rookie card,
34:36how are we looking, man?
34:39It's not looking good
34:40at all.
34:41The card's in the
34:43final stretch.
34:44It's still in the
34:44low five figures.
34:45It's not where
34:46I wanted to be.
34:47I'm starting to get
34:47a little bit nervous.
34:52Trying to be a big boy
34:53about this.
34:53I'm calling John.
34:54I'm FaceTiming him.
34:55Come on, man.
34:57He's not picking
34:57the phone up.
35:01He just stood.
35:02He just, he, he,
35:02he ignored me right away,
35:04so he's clearly
35:05on his phone.
35:05Wow.
35:06I mean, dude,
35:06this is not good.
35:11He gave me a shot
35:11at this because
35:12of our relationship
35:13and.
35:13It always makes it
35:14even worse, right?
35:15When it's like the,
35:15the friendship is,
35:16is tied to it.
35:18You know, John's a friend.
35:20I advised him to turn
35:21down a strong offer
35:22to go to auction.
35:23John wanted me to pull it.
35:24I told him I couldn't do it.
35:26This is the worst part
35:27of the job.
35:28Given my relationship
35:29with him,
35:30it's just an awful feeling.
35:31I know he's not happy.
35:35Ain't no L's,
35:39it's a fail.
35:40They can hate,
35:41but it's cool,
35:41wish him well.
35:43Looking at the best,
35:44you can tell.
35:45You know he the champ,
35:46fight night with the bell.
35:48Another trophy,
35:49need a man so I can
35:50set it on.
35:52Hey, I gotta get it,
35:53gotta go now.
35:54Put the work in
35:55and the phone down.
35:57Yeah, I'm him,
35:58that's my program.
35:59If you didn't know,
36:00well, you know now.
36:01I'm defeated.
36:02I'm defeated.
36:04Yeah, me.
36:04Make a final,
36:05take the title,
36:06we'll repeat it.
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