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00:00And then just abandoned.
00:02But you can still see Huntley is over here and Carr is here.
00:08And I think this was going to be the prosecutor.
00:12It takes me right back to the day I was doing this in court.
00:15Oh, his lips were quite dark.
00:21You can see how they are together.
00:24But she still doesn't want to look at him.
00:30A massive search is underway tonight for two ten-year-old girls
00:38who've been missing for 24 hours.
00:40Their disappearance is incredibly out of character.
00:48Their mum took the picture of them in their Manchester United shirts.
00:56They left the house and disappeared.
00:58Anyone who's got children must know what we're going through.
01:05For that first week, it felt like one of those dramatic crime stories
01:11you see on the television.
01:13How could these two little girls have just vanished?
01:18Now we're sadly having to consider the possibility of an abduction.
01:30Work with me to stop this getting any worse than it is.
01:34You do have a way out.
01:36You do have a way out.
01:43While there's no news, then there's still that glimmer of hope.
01:45Behind closed doors, he was very violent, he was very impulsive
01:49and was very controlling and manipulative.
01:51He actually said to me,
01:53If I tell you that, I'll have to kill you.
01:59Police are searching Woodland,
02:00where they found two areas of recently disturbed earth.
02:04They were not joining up all the dots, all these allegations.
02:11It was staggering that some police officers believed they weren't allowed
02:16to keep an intelligence file on someone who had been accused of a crime.
02:20In Ian Huntley's case, that was catastrophic.
02:24How could a man accused of all this end up working in a college as a caretaker?
02:31Was there any occasion that you actually came into contact, physical contact with the girls?
02:37Physical contact.
02:42How much did she know?
02:43Did she cover up for him?
02:45We were confident that we had the right person and now we had to prove it.
02:49This was a case that couldn't be lost.
02:53He did try to clean his car.
02:55He was obviously aware of trace evidence, but he didn't do it well enough.
03:00That was the moment you realised Ian Huntley's a double child killer.
03:05Court number one today, there was evil and its name was Ian Huntley.
03:09A very warped and distorted man played the system and won and two children died because of it.
03:19I remember exactly where I was when I was told about the case.
03:33I was on a beach in Spain, then my phone rang and that was the head of the Crown Prosecution Service in
03:40Cambridge, asking me, A, if I knew about the case and B, would I wish to be involved?
03:45And the answer to both those questions, of course, was a very emphatic yes.
03:54Can you give me your full name and address, please?
03:56He's there, he's in a yellow and green jumpsuit, and he appears very different from what we've
04:06seen of him in the earlier interviews.
04:09Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
04:13Do you understand that you are under caution?
04:14So can you give me that?
04:16OK.
04:17He's sat there and his knee is going up and down.
04:21He looks like the stereotype of somebody with a mental illness.
04:25I'm in college, close, so.
04:27Thank you, Ian.
04:29It was so extreme that as journalists, we assumed that this would be an attempt to try and explain away his
04:38culpability in what he'd done.
04:40To find that he tried to persuade the police that he was off his head and mad and so on,
04:47I mean, just seemed laughable, really, because it's an old, old ploy,
04:53but he didn't strike me as being somebody who was mad at all.
05:03He, we judge, did play games, particularly putting forward his mental health issues
05:10as a potential mechanism to avoid trial.
05:19Oh, come on!
05:21And I'll tell you what else, forensically.
05:24His fingerprints have been found.
05:25Oh, come on!
05:26No!
05:31When Maxine Carr is presented by the police with evidence that Ian Huntley
05:37has killed Holly and Jessica, she can't believe it.
05:44You wanted facts and you wanted to know about the forensics line.
05:47No!
05:48I can't help it!
05:50She almost acts like a child, having a tantrum, saying no, no, no.
05:55She's, she's crying uncontrollably.
05:58I think knowing something and hearing it out loud are two different things.
06:02And so there may be something actually hearing the words spoken out in a very formal setting
06:08really hit home to her.
06:09I think Maxine Carr stuck by Ian Huntley initially because she was very much under his
06:39control.
06:40He had chipped away at her sense of self and her sense of her own identity.
06:45Her relationship with him was the most important thing in her life and she wanted to preserve that
06:50come hell or high water.
06:52I would feel reasonably sure that he bullied her and scared her into covering for him.
07:00Give him a false alibi.
07:01I'm sorry.
07:05Being at Rampton didn't prevent Huntley being charged with murder.
07:10And in fact, police officers went to Rampton to actually make those charges.
07:15I can now tell you that in the last hour, detectives from this force have driven to the secure unit
07:23and have charged Ian Huntley with two counts of murder.
07:28He thinks that he's in this secure hospital.
07:30It's an environment that's very different from prison.
07:33And I think he thought, I've got this sorted.
07:35I'm in control, but far from it.
07:37Prosecution barrister Karim Khalil came to the hearing with the results of those tests.
07:49He told the judge that Mr Huntley was found not to be suffering from any mental illness
07:54and that his mental state was entirely normal.
07:57Given the comprehensive accounts that he'd given in front of the TV cameras,
08:03almost courting the attention of the press in the early part of the investigation,
08:08and we felt the likelihood of him being declared unfit for trial was pretty thin.
08:12The judge ordered that he go to prison until his next appearance.
08:16He stood and stumbled before leaving the dock.
08:33The build-up to the trial was extremely intense.
08:38If you're in the Old Bailey in front of the most experienced judges in this country,
08:43they don't miss anything.
08:44Your prosecution has to be absolutely watertight.
08:50The case was extraordinary in that it was not so much a whodunit,
08:54but being able to prove where he had killed them, when he killed them,
08:57and how he had deposited the bodies.
09:00We were confident that we had the right person, and now we had to prove it.
09:04This was a case that couldn't be lost.
09:14Every day has been counted, 26 now since Sharon and Leslie and Nicola and Kevin
09:19last saw their daughters alive, and lost that their friends would return safely.
09:24Because the Grimsby Telegraph had been instrumental in alerting police
09:29to the suspects in Soham at the time, I represented the paper at the memorial service,
09:36which was held at Ely Cathedral, amongst 2,000 other people.
09:42A poem for Holly, entitled Soham's Rose.
09:47Your right to grow, to mature, and to play, so cruelly denied in a sinister way.
09:54When Kevin Wells stood up to read out his poem as a father of four,
09:59you recognised that great sense of strength, of character, and dignity that all the families showed.
10:07Our memories now shared with the nation's hearts.
10:13Small crumbs of comfort.
10:15Now it is time to part.
10:17There's no question that this is one of the biggest crimes and the biggest trials
10:28of the century. I mean, it's enormous, isn't it? How many times do two children get murdered?
10:33There would have been a massive pressure on people to convict because of the amount of publicity
10:40and because of the horror of the crime.
10:44One thing we've seen in the last 20 years is the media are releasing far too much information
10:49about people who are in the middle of being prosecuted through the Crown Court.
10:53And I think that started with this case.
10:56The press coverage of Carr and Huntley between arrest and then charge and then trial was shocking.
11:04The press interest was unprecedented in my observing of trial history.
11:09There was almost a feeding frenzy in the media surrounding the trial,
11:16with a few of the newspapers kind of stepping over the mark a bit.
11:21The defence argued that the two defendants would not get a fair trial
11:26because of all the media coverage.
11:28There was a warning from the high-up judges that they were pushing their luck a bit,
11:33so there was a bit of a wrapping of knuckles there.
11:36So I suppose a bit of an irony, really, considering how much help
11:39the media had been to the law enforcers.
11:43Well, it was a fascinating twist that much of the material that we relied on
11:48for the early party investigation was itself derived from the press coverage.
11:56This is the PowerPoint we prepared for the jury to show.
12:19The links between all the fibre transfers from these Manchester United shirts
12:27onto these different items within the home.
12:30It built up the picture of the strength of the case against him.
12:34Here's another one, the curtains, which we hypothesised effectively,
12:38the children must have been wrapped and then taken away, probably hidden in the boot of the car.
12:44We had a working theory, which we developed with the police,
12:48that Huntley had killed the children in the house on the day of their arrival.
12:53But he had removed their bodies that day and taken them to the drove,
12:58where their bodies were found.
12:59But he had burned them on the same occasion and then stripped the bodies
13:04and dumped the clothing in the bin in the hangar, which was very close by to the home.
13:11The killings in this case were not premeditated.
13:14Huntley hadn't gone out and looked for an opportunity to kill these two girls.
13:20They had literally come to his door.
13:24Having killed the two children in his home, he then had to swiftly fast forward into a clear-up.
13:31The house had been really very thoroughly cleaned.
13:37We had it stripped right down to and below the floorboards at each level.
13:41But looking for the ordinary signs of quite serious killings in a property,
13:45they didn't seem to be showing up when the forensic teams went in initially.
13:52I went to a hangar that the police had taken over in a disused
13:56airfield in the southeast of England, which was heavily guarded.
14:00And inside of it was everything that had come from Huntley's house.
14:05There were just under 8,000 items and that included the plugs, the lamps,
14:11the books that he and Maxine Carl were reading.
14:15Everything you can think of had been stripped and there were signs
14:18hanging from the ceiling of bathroom, kitchen, lounge.
14:23It was really eerie to see.
14:27It was effectively walking through Huntley's life.
14:33One of the key things was hoping that we could get
14:36the best forensic scientists on board early.
14:40In the criminal setting, forensic geology nearly always means taking or trying to find
14:46the geological materials in the possession of a suspect,
14:49perhaps on shoes or in a car or something like that.
14:52And then trying to establish whether or not they came from a crime scene.
14:58I was called by the officer in charge of the investigation.
15:00He told me that there was a certain amount of time pressure.
15:04What they said to me was that they were quite concerned that they didn't have enough evidence
15:09that linked Ian Huntley to that track.
15:12And in fact, I think the very next day, I examined both Ian Huntley's car and Common Drive.
15:19The track was quite unusual.
15:21I couldn't help noticing that along the sides of the track were raised piles of chalk and builder's rubble.
15:28I didn't actually think much of it at the time.
15:30But that really became important after I'd looked at Ian Huntley's car.
15:35There was quite a lot of material semi-hardened onto the front left suspension arm.
15:41That's when I realised that these piles on the side of the road were quite important.
15:44Because really, the only way that the material could have got on top of that suspension arm
15:48was if that had been driven over a raised pile of material.
15:56Now, what's interesting there,
15:57can you see that from there's a line there and that's slightly different colour?
16:03And when we looked at things, he must have parked his car about there.
16:08Well, actually, look, you can see the wheel marks.
16:10So you could work out where the car had been,
16:13but you have to eliminate the possibility that trace evidence could have been picked up from somewhere else.
16:19So, you know what I mean by the way that the car had been picked up from Huntley's car.
16:27Initially, Maxine Carr could not cut herself off from Huntley.
16:32She was writing to him, like, for hours every day.
16:35These weren't just short letters, they were very long, rambling, essay-length letters.
16:40So she is still feeling that sense of connection with him,
16:44because she is dependent upon him for a sense of her own identity.
16:49We understood that she was still, to a degree,
16:52unaccepting that he was responsible for these girls' deaths.
17:03Having this time apart from him, she begins to get to know Maxine again,
17:08as somebody who is independent from Huntley.
17:12The idea that she had space to think and listen to other perspectives
17:16may have been crucial in shaping her decision to distance herself further.
17:21Also, I think Maxine Carr's legal team will very much have been appealing to her own sense of selfishness,
17:27saying, actually, you've got to think about yourself here,
17:30because he's committed this horrendous crime, he's going to go down with it,
17:34and he may well take you with him.
17:37The turn in Maxine Carr's story as to Ian Huntley,
17:40we saw that as entirely a self-centred turn of events, rather than something assisting us.
17:45This was all about her.
17:49When the ambulance picked up Ian Huntley from prison, he was suffering convulsions.
18:06By the time they'd got him to hospital in Milton Keynes, he was in a coma.
18:10The Home Office says he'd made a serious attempt at self-harm.
18:14There is a massive public interest.
18:16I understand that, but as I say, Mr Huntley's condition is stable, we can't go any further than that.
18:20It is stable. That's it.
18:21I had this feeling that he would certainly kill himself or try and kill himself.
18:29It feels to me that Ian Huntley was a man who could never live with the truth of himself.
18:37Part of it might have been the fact that Ian Huntley realised that he no longer had the
18:42same sort of power over Maxine Carr, and she was making her own decisions independently of him.
18:47Part of it might have been the same sort of power over the world.
19:03These are my notes from the conference that we held with both defence teams before the trial was due to begin.
19:10We were told that those representing Huntley wanted to make a number of statements to us about their client's position.
19:23Firstly, that the two girls went to Five College Close and did not leave alive.
19:28They had died in Five College Close.
19:31That he had taken the girls in the fiesta boot to the deposition site.
19:38Huntley put them into the ditch and he removed their clothing.
19:44It wouldn't be disputed that he set fire to the girls and that he took their clothes back to the hangar
19:51where he set fire to the clothes in the bin.
19:56Obviously hugely significant, because before that there'd been no acknowledgement at all,
20:02either by Huntley or on his behalf, that he had been involved in the deaths of these two girls.
20:09But it came with a particular caveat, which was that although those defending Huntley would not dispute any of this information,
20:17they would not in fact make formal admissions about it.
20:21And so still as the prosecution, we had to prove our case on each of those items.
20:27Ian Huntley says at the last minute before the trial is due to start that the girls did die in his house.
20:34He's been in prison for quite a significant period of time at this point.
20:38And this is the one thing that he does have some control over.
20:43He can throw this piece of information in there and have everybody in disarray running around wondering what to do.
20:50No one knew this information, not even the parents.
20:55It was going to be revealed and it was going to blow the trial wide open.
21:03The parents of the two girls arrived at court for the first day of the trial.
21:13Early this morning, Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr were brought separately to court.
21:18The trial began on the 5th of November 2003.
21:23Huntley was charged with two counts of murder and Carr was charged with assisting an offender and perverting the course of justice.
21:32As the trial arrived, the pressure is probably at its peak.
21:36You know that the eyes of the world are literally on you.
21:39You are prosecuting a case which cannot be lost.
21:44You've got the families of Holly and Jessica.
21:47Things are at a maximum just as you begin.
21:53I'm often at the Old Bailey.
21:56If a trial is held in court number one, it shows the gravity of the case.
22:01The number one court at the Old Bailey, which is reserved for the most serious crimes, is quite a special place.
22:09It does put you on edge.
22:12I was sent to cover the trial from day one and covered every moment of it from start to finish.
22:17Quite hard sometimes to keep your emotions in track and to concentrate on writing shorthand notes
22:25when evidence has been delivered in front of you that is frankly appalling.
22:29Huntley is more or less in the middle and the family were only yards away from him.
22:36But they didn't want to obviously sit somewhere where they had to look directly at Huntley and Carr.
22:43I've got to be neutral in my drawings, but also I have to draw what the reporter is allowed to talk about too.
22:50If Huntley's angry in the witness box, I can show that.
22:59I got a call from Cambridgeshire Police saying, we need you to be a witness at the trial.
23:09So I found myself in court number one at the Old Bailey.
23:13When I walked into the Old Bailey, I remember glancing at Huntley and Carr.
23:20But as soon as I started to give evidence, what I didn't want to do was make any sort of error.
23:25This was being a witness in a murder trial.
23:29Journalists always like to ask questions, don't really like answering questions.
23:34So it was pretty strange being put in the witness box.
23:37And I remember looking down at Huntley and Carr in the dock and thinking, in August 2002, you looked me right in the eyes and lied to me, son.
23:48It seemed fine, very cheerful, happy, chatty.
23:51We didn't know the girls were dead.
23:54You were still telling me that there was hope that they'd come home safe and sound.
23:59And now you won't look me in the eyes at all.
24:08The fiesta that Huntley had was pretty central to the investigation.
24:15He did try to clean his car.
24:17He was obviously aware of trace evidence, but he didn't do it well enough.
24:21There are too many nooks and crannies, and I've done so many vehicles.
24:25I know exactly where to look.
24:26Scissors were found in the boot of his fiesta.
24:29They had fibres on them that had come from one or other of the shirts of Holly and Jessica.
24:35Helped by the footage from some of the press photographs, we could compare that footage with the later footage of the same car
24:43and show that items had changed, and we found that the very day after the girls had gone missing,
24:49he'd taken that fiesta and had the tyres changed.
24:53I tickled it all underneath, and great lumps of soil came out of the suspension.
24:58I analysed that, and the spare wheel, the foot pedals, they were all very similar,
25:06and they were very similar to the palynological profile at the crime scene.
25:13Now, in that part of the world, there was more than one drove road,
25:19and they all looked very similar to the naked eye.
25:22But actually, when you walked down them, they weren't the same.
25:26The pieces of rock could really only have got there by the car having been driven over a raised pile
25:31of soil, and we knew with great accuracy exactly where it had come from.
25:38That, of course, is what we had at the edges of Common Drive.
25:40So we were able to put that car on the drove up to the deposition site,
25:46which we thought established without doubt that he had definitely been there,
25:50whereas until then, he denied it.
25:52I've never worked on a case that's produced such a clear result.
25:57If it's only ever going to happen once in my work,
26:00then I'm really glad it happened on this case.
26:14Inside the coach behind those blinds is the court,
26:17the judge, the jury, the prosecution and defence counsel for Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr.
26:23The centre of Soham is closed today. It's become a court in session.
26:29I went to Soham with the jury, and the jury were allowed access to the house,
26:36or what was left of the house. It was a shell. It had been torn apart.
26:40The astonishing thing about the town was it had been sealed off for the day.
26:46Schools had been closed so that children could leave town while the jury visit took place.
26:52It was quite remarkable, and it created this astonishing, eerie silence.
26:57The jury was shown inside to the section of this large storeroom where the girls' clothes,
27:03cut and burnt, were found at the bottom of a school dustbin.
27:07He gave an account of simply having found the bin with those items in,
27:12but we had fingerprints in the plastic bags within which the clothes were wrapped,
27:17both on the outside and the inside of the bag.
27:20We then had some 3D reconstruction work done to demonstrate that in order for his fingerprints
27:27to have got there, he must have been involved in the unwrapping and then the closing of that bag,
27:32rather than simply leaning over as he claimed.
27:37At the beginning of the track, the jury had walked past a small posy of flowers
27:41left by the roadside, a card said to Soham's roses.
27:46The deposition site was the place that had most impact.
27:49It was quite a difficult drive from Soham, which suggested that whoever went
27:56there knew where they were going.
27:58And when you actually got to the ditch where the two children had been placed and then set afire,
28:06it was a very moving occasion.
28:07I don't think any juror who was there would forget that.
28:17The court has been told that the farewell signal from Jessica's mobile phone was received here.
28:40But because this mast is some distance from Soham,
28:43there are only a few places inside the town where its coverage is strong enough
28:48for it to have been able to pick up that signal.
28:50Today, the court heard from an expert on mobile phones, Mr Bristow.
28:55We had a signal plot of areas in Soham.
29:00There was only one place where the girls were thought to have gone on that night,
29:04and that was right outside Huntley's house.
29:09This was so incontrovertible.
29:12It was a vital piece of evidence that had to be given and put over to the jury.
29:17So that seemed to me to be a very important aspect of the prosecution.
29:29The story that Ian Huntley tells at trial is an incredibly elaborate one.
29:41He says that one of the girls had a nosebleed, so he took them to the bathroom.
29:46One of them fell into the bath.
29:48The other one started screaming.
29:50It really is an incredibly tall story.
29:53As a reporter in court, when you hear that Huntley suddenly saying he did kill them,
30:00but it was an accident, there's that wow moment.
30:04It seemed to us inevitable that where two people are killed in a property
30:09by the same person, and he was conceding that he had killed both girls,
30:14that at least the second killing would have to be a murder.
30:17On his account, both were accidental.
30:21That just didn't seem to be credible in any way, shape or form to us.
30:25He was made to repeat over and over again what had happened,
30:30how he tried to keep Jessica from crying out, and that was how she died,
30:38because he smothered her by accident, and being made to go over and over and over that,
30:44and how long it would have taken for her to die.
30:46It suggests that these two little girls were very kind of weak,
30:52and they're very passive, and they just, you know, kind of died on me.
30:57And that is absolutely ludicrous, because they probably would have fought for their lives.
31:04And then the prosecutor started to ask him about the true motive for the girls being in the house,
31:13and he said that it was a sexual motive and that you lured these girls into that house.
31:19And Mr Latham persisted harshly with this, and Ian Huntley cracked.
31:25His voice cracked, and he spoke with anger and rage.
31:31And it echoed around the courtroom, and then there was silence.
31:38And then Mr Latham said to him,
31:44Did you lose your temper like that that night?
31:48Incredibly, that was the moment you realised Ian Huntley's a double child killer.
31:54You could feel the silence like it was a weight that you were holding, and you could feel the parents looking even.
32:08I mean, I don't think I looked up at them at that point, because it felt almost indecent
32:12to be listening to that in the presence of people who knew and loved them.
32:17His whole demeanour changed very, very quickly.
32:21You could just see that fury in his face.
32:25This showed that he could suddenly turn from being the calm person that he was trying to portray himself
32:31as being to something really quite different.
32:43There had been an absolute 180-degree turn in terms of Maxine Carr's thoughts and feelings towards Huntley
32:51by the time the trial came around.
32:53She physically distanced herself from him.
32:56Her only way out was to say that she wanted nothing to do with him,
33:02that she was not going to support his story.
33:05It all climaxed when Maxine took the stand, gave her evidence,
33:11and basically turned on Ian Huntley for the first time,
33:17when she pointed at him and described him as that thing.
33:22And that was the moment where Maxine Carr was breaking her bond with Huntley
33:33and effectively convicting him.
33:38With tears in her eyes, with her voice barely under control,
33:42Maxine Carr pointed a finger at the man she once yearned to marry
33:46and said she would not be blamed for what that thing had done.
33:50That thing, as she called him, was Ian Huntley.
33:55She cast the blame entirely onto the hands of Ian Huntley.
34:00That wasn't altogether a surprise.
34:02Just as with him, a defendant will do all they can to deflect away from their own position.
34:07This was when the jury had heard all the evidence, and Mr. Hubbard QC is giving a speech to the jury,
34:19and he's representing Maxine Carr.
34:21To really make it stick in their minds that she doesn't want to be with him,
34:26he uses lines from that old song,
34:28Please release me, let me go, for I don't love you anymore.
34:34This is his last chance to persuade the jury of what she says happened.
34:58So, after a six-week trial, the verdict came as guilty of murder for Ian Huntley.
35:12Maxine Carr was also found guilty, and the Grimsby Telegraph published a special edition,
35:1832 pages describing all the highlights and key points of the trial at the Old Bailey,
35:25and also the background to the two individuals.
35:30Once you do hear it, and in this case you heard guilty verdict returned,
35:35huge relief for both families because hopefully at least
35:39a continued sense of proper grieving was then allowed for them.
35:55A killer of two young children leaving the Old Bailey to begin two life sentences.
36:10In court number one today there was evil, and its name was Ian Huntley.
36:15Only he knows why he murdered Jessica and Holly.
36:21Perhaps one day he might demonstrate some sliver of humanity and explain why he did what he did.
36:30I mean, our life sentence started last August. His is only just beginning.
36:35But although the jury had come back with their guilty verdict,
36:39that wasn't the end of the story for the communities of Soane and indeed Grimsby.
36:44How a man and a woman could have come from our area
36:49and then gone on to have committed such crimes.
36:52Ian Huntley was known to Humberside police. There were investigations into underage sex.
37:09And he was also charged with rape in a location in Grimsby.
37:14He had been accused of targeting young girls before, but the intelligence that was given to Cambridge
37:25or the intelligence they sought was not given. It is impossible to believe that a man who has been
37:32arrested for extremely serious crimes can go into an interview in a college as a caretaker and get the job.
37:41It later emerged that he'd managed to slip through the net because he'd used his mother's maiden name.
37:49And often he would use the name Nixon and not Huntley. And in those days,
37:54education establishments were not as rigorous as they are now in checking.
38:02After Huntley was convicted, people started to take a really serious look at how has this guy slipped
38:09through the net with the kind of background that he had in terms of the abuse of women and girls
38:15and his previous behaviour.
38:17It was clearly, it was a history of him being involved with a large number of young women.
38:37I remember receiving this document because it was quite remarkable at the time. This is North East
38:43Lincolnshire Council. Collectively, the media, having compiled all the background information
38:49on how Ian Huntley had slipped through the net, sent the council a series of questions. And these are their
38:57answers, which they turned into a media pack. It basically says that Ian Huntley was an adult and
39:04therefore didn't come under the auspices of social services at that time. It reveals that his name
39:09came up in five cases. He was described to us as the young women's boyfriend. They use the phrase
39:15young women, but the young women were 15 under the age of consent. Four of the young women declined
39:21to make a complaint about him. The case of the fifth young woman was investigated by the police
39:26and no prosecution followed. Within North Lincolnshire, they were not joining up all the dots.
39:33They didn't have this comprehensive picture of Ian Huntley and all the allegations that had been made
39:38against him. It was actually a failure of leadership, of management and possibly also of under-resourcing.
39:47I was shocked, actually, to hear how many times he had moved away from allegations. He kept abusing women
39:59and then move on.
40:01There wasn't a central database. So although Humberside police in Grimsby knew that Ian Huntley abused
40:19underage girls before, that information got nowhere near Cambridge police and nowhere near
40:25the education system in Cambridge either. I've discovered errors, omissions,
40:30failures and shortcomings which are deeply shocking and which meant that, for example,
40:36there was not one single occasion in all of the contacts with Huntley, including eight sexual
40:43offence allegations notified to Humberside police when the record systems worked properly.
40:49The most significant change from the Be Shard Inquiry was around the recruitment of individuals,
40:55because with Ian Huntley, there was very poor processes in place. And so now there are processes
41:03that organisations that employ people to work with children have to follow. And that has changed
41:08drastically since the Be Shard Inquiry.
41:13I think policing held its head in shame, actually.
41:15And I can remember the chief constable of Humberside standing up and saying,
41:21I'm sorry, we got this wrong. But we did fail, those two girls. They should never have been put
41:27in that position. A very warped and distorted man played the system and won. And two children died because of it.
41:40And two children died. And two children died. And two children died. And two children died.
41:45Much has been said about how this community is going to come to terms with the crimes that were
41:50committed here. This demolition is a step forward in that process. Number five, College Close,
41:56served as a permanent reminder of two murders for which Soham gained such wretched notoriety.
42:02I don't think we'll ever know what happened from the time they passed by his front door and he managed to
42:09lure them inside. My feeling is that he'll probably go to the grave with that secret.
42:23Occasionally, a case in this country rocks the moral fibre of our democracy. We've seen it with the
42:30Moore's murders, we've seen it with Sarah Payne and we've seen it with Soham. These cases will be
42:36talked about at infinitum. The biggest legacy in many ways have been the changes in the system,
42:47basically to ensure, hopefully, that nothing like this can ever happen again.
42:50They would be women now. They would be having lives of their own. But Ian Huntley denied them that.
43:01So I think the thing that we need to remember from this case are the names of those two girls,
43:06Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman. The little blonde girl, the little brown-haired girl,
43:13smiling for the camera in their football shirts and above them, the clock. And then they disappear.
43:21And they're caught forever in that picture.
43:33So
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