The Graham Norton Show - Season 33 Episode 08- Hugh Jackman, Kate Hudson, Ben Stiller, Da'Vine Joy Randolph, sombr
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00:00MUSIC
00:12APPLAUSE
00:14Welcome!
00:15Oh, thank you very much!
00:18Very kind!
00:19Oh!
00:20Thank you!
00:21Thank you very much!
00:22Hello!
00:23Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the show!
00:27Great show for you tonight, I tell you!
00:29I couldn't be more head-over-heels
00:31if I'd just put Scotland into the World Cup Finals!
00:34Oh!
00:35Did you see it?
00:36Oh, amazing!
00:37Congratulations to the Scottish team and to their fans,
00:40reminding us that football is still the beautiful game.
00:43Yeah.
00:45And we've got a great line-up for you tonight.
00:47Look who's singing for us later!
00:49It's Somber, everybody!
00:51Yeah!
00:52He'll be performing his single 12 to 12!
00:55But there's nothing to be somber about on my show for tonight.
00:58First off, she's a BAFTA, Tony, Golden Globe and Oscar-winning star
01:02who sold her hearts in the holdovers
01:04and steals the scenes in Only Murders in the Building.
01:07Her latest film is called Eternity.
01:09Please welcome Divine Joy Randolph!
01:11Well, here she is now!
01:12Yay!
01:13Come on!
01:14Come on!
01:15Come on!
01:16Come on!
01:17Come on!
01:18Come on!
01:19Come on!
01:20Come on!
01:21Oh, nice!
01:22Sit down!
01:23This comedy genius who made us laugh in hits like Zoolander, Meet the Parents and Tropic Thunder.
01:30Now he brings us a very personal goal about his showbiz parents in Stiller and Mira Nothing Is Lost.
01:36It is Mr. Ben Stiller!
01:38Yeah!
01:39Hello!
01:40Hello!
01:41Hello!
01:42Hello!
01:43Hello!
01:44Hello!
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01:46Hello!
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01:52And we've two stars of the new musical love story Song Song Blue.
01:54She was Oscar-nominated for unforgettable performance in Almost Famous and ruled the rom-coms in hits like How To Lose A Guy in 10 Days.
02:03While her recent album, Glorious, showed off her considerable musical talent.
02:08Please welcome Kate Hudson!
02:10Well done!
02:13Hello!
02:15Hello!
02:17Hello!
02:18What is she?
02:19What is she?
02:20And he is a Grammy Emmy and Tony Award winning star who's lit up the screens in The Greatest Showman, Les Miserables and last year's Deadpool and Wolverine.
02:31It's the one and only Hugh Jackman!
02:34Hello!
02:37Hello, sir!
02:38It's been great to see you!
02:40It's down!
02:41Hello!
02:42Hello!
02:43Hello!
02:44Hello, all!
02:46Hello!
02:47Hello!
02:48I really want to just hug Divine for most of the night.
02:51That's just...
02:53It's just like a pile-off.
02:54It is!
02:55Yeah, whenever you want.
02:56Yeah, no, it is the sort of thing, if you wear that at a party by the end of the night, everyone's just clinging.
03:01Yep, that's the point.
03:02Gorgeous!
03:03So, welcome back to everybody!
03:04Yeah!
03:05Yeah!
03:06And Hugh and Kate, obviously you know each other, you've worked together, we're about to talk about the movie.
03:09But Ben and Kate, you've known each other for a long time.
03:12Like...
03:13Yes.
03:1425, 30.
03:15Yeah.
03:1630 years.
03:17Ah!
03:18Oh my goodness.
03:19Yeah.
03:20You guys were dating for how long?
03:21Yeah.
03:22Oh, Graham.
03:27Let's draw a showbiz veil.
03:32By the way, my daughter and I bond over two things, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills...
03:38Love it.
03:39...and musical theatre, and one of our favourite shows is Les Mis, and we both bond over how much we love you...
03:46Yes.
03:47...in Les Mis, and how incredible you were as Valjean.
03:49Yeah.
03:50And that's one of the things we do together, we sing like the confrontation, you know...
03:53Well, I was just saying, how many of my daughter watch Severance?
03:56Right, right, right.
03:57Right.
03:58Really?
03:59Yeah.
04:00I know.
04:01I know.
04:02I love you.
04:03Because people may not know that you, of course, are the man behind Severance.
04:08Yeah.
04:09This year got a record-breaking 27 Emmy nominations.
04:13Wow.
04:14I mean, it's so good.
04:16It's so insanely good.
04:18I agree.
04:19Don't you direct every single episode?
04:20I don't.
04:21I don't.
04:22I directed about half the episodes last season, and yeah.
04:25And I know you're not going to direct any more, is that right?
04:27That...
04:28You...
04:29No, not next season, but I'm still producing a part of it, yes.
04:34Oh, okay.
04:35So, and the next season is being written, or...?
04:37Yes.
04:38Yes.
04:39So it's not shot yet?
04:40You're asking all the tough questions.
04:41Okay.
04:42Yes, we are in progress.
04:43Are we in it?
04:44Is this it?
04:45We're being negotiated right now.
04:47Yes.
04:48Yes.
04:49And someone who took an award away since we last met her, Divine Joy Randolph, an Oscar winner!
04:54God damn it!
04:55No, I felt like you had a proud relative, because you were on the show talking about the holdovers, and I love that movie.
05:03Yeah.
05:04So when you won, it was just...
05:05And it is that kind of showbiz dream, was it? Did it feel how you thought it would feel?
05:11Oh, it was so out of body at that point, and everyone had said to me, like, don't write anything down.
05:20And I was like, well, I thought that's what everyone does.
05:22They were like, no, just speak from the heart.
05:24And so because of it, I blacked out.
05:26I don't remember anything.
05:31And then, were you very sensible and kind of like, yes, I have my Oscar.
05:35I must go to bed now.
05:36Or did you go wild?
05:37No.
05:38I had been good that whole time.
05:40Oh.
05:41Mm-hmm.
05:42So you partied all night.
05:43Oh, yeah.
05:44Still going.
05:45Still going.
05:46Another party.
05:47Another party.
05:48Next club.
05:49I'm wearing my hugging dress.
05:50Yeah.
05:51Let's go.
05:52Listen, let's crack on with our first movie tonight.
05:55Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson are together in Song Song Blue.
06:00It'll be in cinemas from New Year's Day.
06:03Before we talk about it, here's a taste of the trailer.
06:07I'm not a songwriter.
06:08I'm not a sex symbol, but I am an entertainer.
06:11I don't want to be a hairdresser.
06:13I want to sing.
06:14I want to dance.
06:15I want to be able to sing.
06:16Look at me.
06:17I made it.
06:18Look at the night.
06:20You're supposed to be Loretta Lynn.
06:21Oh, Patsy Cline.
06:22My boobs were just a bit bigger.
06:24I could be Dolly.
06:25You're a blonde?
06:26Oh, boy, am I?
06:28I can begin to know it.
06:31You know who you would be perfect for?
06:34Neil Diamond.
06:35We fill it up with only two.
06:38We should call ourselves Lightning and Thunder.
06:41That is not very professional of me, but I've been wanting to do it for like a whole...
06:46You're gonna do a Neil Diamond show?
06:48Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
06:49A Neil Diamond experience.
06:51Lightning and Thunder!
06:52Reaching out.
06:53Sold out shows.
06:54What's a Pearl Jam?
06:55You don't know who Pearl Jam is?
06:56I guess we're opening for Pearl Jam.
06:57Here we go.
06:58Sweet Caroline.
06:59Ha, ha, ha, ha.
07:00Guess I'll never see you so good.
07:01So good.
07:02So good.
07:03So good.
07:04It's good.
07:05So good.
07:06So good.
07:07So good.
07:08So good.
07:09So good.
07:12I was telling you about that.
07:13And it is so good.
07:14So good.
07:15So good.
07:16So good.
07:17Mike and Claire Sardina.
07:18So good.
07:19Mike and Claire Sardina are this real life couple.
07:22Mm-hmm.
07:23So doctors about that.
07:24Yeah.
07:25Yeah.
07:26Here we go.
07:27Sweet Caroline.
07:29Sweet Caroline.
07:30Pa, Pa, Pa.
07:31Oh, it's good.
07:32Yeah.
07:33Superman.
07:34Yeah.
07:35so talk to us about them milwaukee mid-90s uh mike was aka lightning his stage name was lightning
07:42he's manager and claire was thunder that's right his manager was his dentist who put a lightning
07:48bolt on his front tooth and they were lightning and thunder and in the mid-90s they had this
07:54neil diamond tribute band and there they are they played in pubs they played in clubs and
07:58then they just became the bomb huge they were huge in milwaukee and they ended up opening up
08:03a pearl jam and so that's sort of the showbiz side but their story oh honestly i want to be in
08:10every sin i'm talking too much i don't know i'll talk with no no you i'm trying interrupting
08:17whatever you think this story you know it's a showbiz story it it goes to places you can't
08:22imagine and i promise you when you watch it part of you is going to say all right hollywood take it
08:27down a notch come on it's already a good story you didn't have to lay it off everything is true
08:32and kate you ended you met claire the real claire in the end but you didn't meet her initially
08:38no no no initially i mean we had we had such a great resource with the documentary so i think
08:44craig really wanted me to this is the director the director craig brewer writer director did an
08:50amazing job on this and uh and he he kind of wanted me not to get too involved with claire so that
08:58i would i wouldn't be torn away from my instincts of the story he wrote you know um but once we
09:03started she came on set and it was it was it was amazing and wild actually for to have her there and
09:10like for us you know to have the same hair and stare at the older claire you know and how difficult
09:17because you're doing such a specific thing you you know you're playing a real person who's then
09:23impersonating right a real person right like which end do you start from yeah it was confusing yeah
09:29but i i obviously have to start with me and because i have a life where i perform as well i kind of had
09:35to lose me to become mike and then mike to become neil and it was it was awesome and luckily the first
09:41thing we did was get in the recording studio so we we did everything live and we recorded everything but
09:46that's really where we found our voices i think individually and together and connection yeah
09:52and and it was like a nice sort of ice breaker because the story is such an intense love story
09:58and i remember saying to you like this movie won't work if we don't work and we have to find that
10:05like really that they were so in love mike and claire and so starting with music for us was a great way
10:11to kind of break the ice and the chemistry between the two of you is great there's just a little clip
10:16and it just it's a very sweet little clip that just shows that love and that chemistry hey claire
10:25i can't thank neil because every thank you i got belongs to udall
10:31you're my august night you're my september morn you're my heartlight and you're my cracklin rosie you got me
10:41i'll see you on stage
10:54oh oh i can't wait
10:59i might cry again i might cry again i haven't seen the movie i'm already crying
11:05my parents were a mess it was like really like i think everybody who's you know because even when
11:11you know someone so well like we were a mess when we saw the movie the first time and that's really
11:15rare but what's nice is they're kind of gorgeous tears it's not a depress in no way is it depressing
11:21no it's uplifting you're welling up as well
11:25all right i'm seeing us kissing it we had there was a lot of kissing so much kissing that was my favorite
11:30my favorite moment we were kissing one night we had a kissing scene ended in a kiss i proposed
11:35and uh it started to snow and it was like midnight and it was freezing so beautiful you know when
11:42it's really cold and your nose can't stop running it's not a good thing the theme is like two minutes
11:48long so my makeup artist would go oh wow okay clean me up but by the time it came to the kiss just oh
11:54it was and so it ruined everything it's really good for your confidence when you see this look on your
12:02co-star's face and that's on the close-up does your does your nose run when you cry oh a little bit yes
12:12yes in the cold yeah oh guys it was listen i'm a professional am i right i read you in an interview
12:21you're talking about your connection with claire that that idea that you don't choose to perform
12:25like these guys had to perform you have to do it yeah there's i think you and i both relate to that
12:31very much so where it's like it's just in you and when you're born with music in you and it has to
12:36come out you don't know what else to do you know and if you're not doing that there's something really
12:42missing in your life and that is claire and mike and it was them their whole life their whole you know
12:49relationship i think they fell in love because they saw that in each other too you know yeah um
12:55but you guys you're the people are born with music in them and they can't do it like me
13:04there's so many people like no but you guys are both like so unique i was we were talking backstage
13:07about how like you know he can go on broadway for like a year and do music man like there's so few
13:12people who can do both you know who can act and sing and dance and do all that and like uniquely
13:18suited to this kind of movie a few people controlling was your first love drumming was
13:23my first love but i oh wow yes yeah but no we've got a picture of you drumming how old are you here
13:27this is look at oh that's my bar mitzvah that's your bar mitzvah you're like jack white yeah
13:36but but i did not have the music in me enough to make it come out and sound good but you did because
13:41last time you were here you told us about your band yes yeah yeah we're currently in a band i have no in
13:46high school i had a band called capital punishment very nice yes and we recorded one album and you
13:54you did an album yeah was it i think we've got it was it called road road it was called roadkill
14:00but now here's the weird thing i'm the guy down the che guevara guy at the bottom
14:06super dark what was the vibe uh the vibe was sort of like an like a post-punk kind of alt rock you
14:14know brian eno david bowie inspired wow what year was this this was 19 it's already got a 19 in front
14:2280 no no no no yeah 82 wow i have to hear this well now here's the thing here's the thing cake
14:30you can because this no i'm we're not going to play it but
14:33now i feel bad now i feel bad like we should be playing it no please but uh so you were talking
14:41about this in interviews or it came up and then what happened um well i was i mean somebody released
14:47our album you're talking about that yeah somebody released our album like years later they found it
14:51and an independent label released released roadkill yeah and then we got together and started playing
14:56together again and i just played with the guys like uh yeah here you all are here's capital
15:01punishment here's capital punishment awesome yeah that's a few years ago yeah so we did yeah we did
15:06a few gigs and uh we just rehearsed the other day actually but the problem is peter on the left is a
15:12judge he's like a he's a judge in arizona and then peter on the other guy the redhead peter he's a
15:20professor of eastern european literature he lives in prague okay and then chris my friend who's
15:26screaming baby he lives in brooklyn and he's close by okay so we're never like in the same place together
15:31and then in terms of music divine joy roundup you are a trained opera singer yeah
15:39you are i am i know i get nervous about that i don't know why but but it's true it is true that's
15:44not a lie yeah yeah what you started in a choir then opera yeah and i and then there was this
15:51like new girl that came to our school and was like i went to interlocken and i was like i went
15:57home and i was like yo mom i'm going to interlocken i don't know what it is but a little too cocky for
16:04me and so literally i didn't know what interlocken was what it was about got to the camp it was like
16:08this big international performing arts school that's like in the woods no no it's it's in traverse
16:14city which is like two hours outside of detroit but it's an international performing arts school
16:19i get there and they were like so you're in the opera program and i was like what
16:24but i i absolutely fell in love with it um and i was hooked and i was sending you backstage when
16:30are we going to hear you sing i know and i'm so jealous now because hearing about theirs and i got
16:35a chance to work with craig brewer on dolomite so i know how he's so good with music i need to make
16:40it happen it's gonna happen i do i need to make it happen yeah keep talking about it
16:45like him he brought up an interview and the whole band got back together he could direct
16:49the capital punishment movie yes i can play it myself talking of music song song blue obviously it's
16:57not about neil tymer but his music is like a character i mean it's so there's 13 of his songs
17:03in it wow and neil knew the story of mike and claire really well and so he just gave his rights to his
17:09music for the movie and you both spent you both spent time with him right yeah you did first yeah
17:14i i i i grew up in colorado and he lives like 10 minutes from where i grew up and uh had never met
17:23him and and he had seen the movie and i was like can i go see him and they invited me over and we had
17:30lemonade on the porch there you are there you are having lemonade on the porch it was so emotional
17:34because he's retired he's not singing anymore he's really like you know living a very quiet life and
17:41he loves his movie so much and he was so grateful which i was not expecting and emotional about the
17:47movie and and then we just had just like this lovely porch yeah what's that song i am i said
17:54yeah so good yeah oh it's in there one day and no one and not even the chair
18:10so kate went around and had lemonade on the porch yeah you jackman you sort of imposed yourself on
18:14the diamond family yeah but he rang me and he rang me after seeing the movie with his wife katie and he
18:22was crying and he was he was so moved by it he loved it and he just loved the story of mike and
18:29claire and so i took the opportunity i said ah guys i'd love to come around and have a cuppa
18:34or something and they were like and neil's like okay yeah all right and then i didn't hear from
18:41neil anymore and katie obviously takes her phone goes you know we're in colorado i went okay yeah no
18:47i'd still like to come for a cup and she was like you so i guess you want to stay the night and i'm
18:51like that'd be great and she's like okay so we went there and their son jesse was there and neil
18:59came out and he came up to me and he grabbed me and he goes you did good kid oh and he was emotional
19:04about it and so i stayed the night and at dinner time neil diamond neil diamond goes you want to do
19:12some karaoke i'm like hell yeah it's a bit of karaoke oh and he's yeah oh and the first song
19:22the neil sang yeah at one point he put his arm and he kissed me on the forehead and he's saying
19:26i dreamed a dream no and i said why you sing i dreamed a dream and he goes that's such a pretty tune
19:32and he sang it so beautifully and then we sang uh can't help falling in love with you and then we
19:38sang sweet caroline of course she did yeah and a funny fact about the diamond household
19:43this is a true story anyone who says so good in the diamond household two other people have to say
19:49so good so good it took me a second to work it out it happened to me too like i'm sitting i go oh god
19:55it was so good and then you hear someone go so good so good and you're like and then finally i was
19:59like do you guys say that it's like oh yeah every time someone says so good yeah it's so good so
20:04they play that game at home you're gonna realize how often you say it real quick
20:12it's just a gorgeous film a reminder that hugh and kate will be making beautiful music together
20:17in songs on blue from new year's day and take it from me it's so good
20:21very good very good good very good so everyone can go to the diamonds i thought yes
20:29no one will win uh but right now you can see ben stiller in a very personal documentary film
20:36stiller and mira and nothing is lost it's out now on apple tv plus so ben this is kind of a tribute to
20:43your parents and mira and jerry stiller and very famous in america i think probably less yeah well
20:49certainly the double act less well known yes yeah i think my dad became most well known for
20:54doing seinfeld and being on seinfeld and king of queens but yeah they had a whole career before
20:58that my parents were a comedy team uh they were on the ed sullivan show about 36 times in those 60s
21:04oh yeah and and you know they their whole act was sort of based on their relationship and we grew up
21:10around that and them you know kind of creating together and so the documentary is about yeah about
21:17growing up in a show business family and kind of and then it sort of became about our whole family
21:23because originally i wanted to make something when my dad passed away just about my parents
21:27and uh and their career and their relationship but i didn't really know what it would be
21:31and that was in 2020 i started working on it and covid was happening and um you know it was like
21:38it was a just kind of a time where you know we couldn't do a memorial for my dad or anything like
21:43that so and i had all this uh footage that my dad had saved because he'd saved super 8 footage and
21:49home movies and video cassettes and scripts and and we were going through the apartment so the movies
21:54that my sister and i going through the apartment that that bit is so so relatable anyone who's lost
21:58a parent yeah when you and amy are going to the apartment to clear it out and when you say clear
22:03out there's stuff i mean yeah he kept he saved everything yeah he saved like an old scuba mask from
22:09when i was like eight years old or like our ymca you know form to like you know to to apply for the
22:16family day things like that just um and so but you know how it just gets very you know you get deep
22:21into that stuff when you start going into it and you kind of go it takes forever to get rid of it yeah
22:25yeah and um so so making the movie was a strange process because i'd be delving into all this stuff
22:29and then i was trying to figure out what is the movie really about we've got a clip uh this is your
22:34parents at work and then it kind of cuts to you and your sister amy talking about yeah when we're
22:41we're going through the apartment going through all the stuff some of the blurred lines yes yeah
22:44we have a sketch which we call hate of your heart hate you know i say to anne i hate you
22:49she says you hate me i hate you and one day amy who's six came into the room and she heard us saying
22:54this to each other and we looked at her for a moment and we didn't know what to say so we said uh
22:59amy mommy daddy rehearse mommy daddy rehearse and amy looked at us and she started to smile
23:05well about two weeks later we were fighting and amy walked in and she said mommy and daddy rehearse
23:11no mommy daddy fight get out of here it gets to be a little complicated sometimes i hated you before
23:17i met you i hated you before you were born to me that's like one of the things that i think about
23:21is just how that became sort of like yeah that's the laugh that's the funny joke but what is the
23:27reality of that story though we don't know ben that's why we're so messed up that's why we're
23:34doing this documentary that's why we're gonna figure it out and in the documentary i mean it does become
23:45kind of meta where you know what are the kind of some of the pitfalls of parenting that you see
23:51yourself fall into while you're making this i think it's that thing when you're you know when you're
23:56younger i you know having kids who want to who are actors and my son's in college my daughter's
24:03working actor you know i see myself in them in terms of how i was with my parents because when i
24:10was young i didn't want my parents help i didn't i kind of you know wanted to do my own thing i wasn't
24:14even i didn't even care what they were doing and but also i was i had like issues with them you know
24:19because they were working all the time they were busy and you know the stuff that comes up as you get
24:24older too and you look back and but then when you have kids it just makes you look at your parents
24:28in such a different way and of course i so i decided to interview my kids for the for the movie and of
24:33course they have all the same issues that i had but probably even worse and i i realized you know
24:39that that's the thing like you try to not make those mistakes but then you can't help it it's just
24:43you know it's part of just you know being a parent this is all hitting very close to half yeah when you
24:49grew up with very famous you know goldie hall and kirk russell do they kind of try to protect you
24:53from the show business bit or were you kind of in it you know it's funny when you're in it you don't
24:58see it like show biz you see it like a really creative artistic and also it's your life you don't
25:04know any difference yeah and also like they're not like you know i mean it was just their job and
25:11you know it's so interesting to to hear this because it is it's it's it's a store it's like you know my my
25:17son same as ella they're both actors and it is a dna thing there's something in it there's something
25:24in the artist kind of you know dna that is an interesting thing to uncover like what is it is
25:31it is it nurture or is it nature and and they want it's interesting you didn't have show business
25:36parents but your parents they went to such lengths to make sure you succeeded no one that we have traced
25:43in our genealogical past has artistic gifts i genuinely do not know where this came from
25:54but it was cool because my parents were just kind of like my parents taught me at a young age like
26:00these are your gifts that was something that i knew that was very different from other kids
26:04that like it would almost be like a whisper like well you know i mean like let's say i don't know
26:08we're out and about shopping or whatever and maybe i would just like goof off and be humming and my
26:13mom would be like that's that's real that's a real gift that you have and i was like oh okay so i was
26:21made aware of at a young age and so when i switched gears and got into acting uh and when i had got into
26:28yale my father was very happy because the ivy league portion of the equation and got all the lanyards and all
26:35the things and i was like you know it's for acting though right he's like no no no no no you went to
26:41yale and i never forget at my graduation scorsese spoke it was like the keynote speaker and my dad was
26:48like talk to him you need to get a job and i was like please stop that but yeah it's but they've been so
26:56supportive and i i can't even imagine what that would be like and as i was like growing into my
27:02artistry i kind of always wanted that other than though i was so grateful what my parents did but
27:06because i was kind of like on my own and and figuring this out um but i just think that is so
27:14it's amazing they supported you like that yeah well talking of supportive fathers uh hugh jackman your
27:20dad did something so sweet you know i do know what you're doing but my dad was always supportive we went
27:25growing up always to the theater every show my standing my gift every year for my birthday was a
27:32subscription to the sydney theater company so that i could go he bought the cheapest one possible
27:36so i had to go wednesday matinee and skip class just so i could do it but
27:41dad made sure i saw everything and i remember once in my career dad saw everything i did was always just
27:47so effusive when he came back even the stuff that he had no interest in and i could tell he didn't
27:52like it but he'd be like wonderful work wonderful and one time i was offered to do carousel um at
27:59carnegie hall and i just i told dad i'm doing this thing yes i'm coming i i'm because for my dad carousel
28:06that's his jam so my dad never missed a day working his life he worked a price water house his entire
28:11working life and he took three days off to come to new york to see me in carousel now when i say three
28:18days that's 24-hour flight from sydney to new york he was in new york for less than 24 hours and then
28:24a 24-hour flight back straight to the office and so he was on his way over and my dad itineraries
28:32accountant classic account what's the dress code what time is it what is and i said it's black tie
28:37dad it's carnegie hall well on the day of i found out it wasn't black tie it was business casual and i
28:43pictured my dad just arriving with like whatever he's wearing on the plane with the black tie so i
28:49rang him he was he was he just got to the hotel i'm rehearsing we're on in like eight hours i said
28:55dan i'm so sorry it's not he goes don't worry i'll get it sorted everything's okay and i said fine he
29:01said but do me a favor hugh i would love to come and pick you up at your hotel room and walk you to
29:06the stage door before the performance stop and i said sure and my dad never asked for stuff like that
29:11and so i said sure i said well meet me at six the show's at eight i'm going to walk over get there
29:16about 6 15 and so six o'clock on the dot there's a knock on the door open up and there's my father
29:22standing in full black tie i'm like no no no no dad i'm so serious only the choir are wearing black
29:30tie no one else and he looked me straight in the eye and he said hugh my son is singing at
29:35carnegie hall it is black tie for me oh that's beautiful
29:44yeah not a dry eye someone's gonna cry tonight someone's gonna cry here's the thing i couldn't
29:51believe in the documentary bit so your parents are performers but they were not shy about kind of
29:59bringing you and your sister in front of the cameras right well yeah when we were little i mean they would
30:04go on the mike douglas show which was like a a daily show and they would bring us out you know
30:09for like a funny little bit or something like that we thought it was so much fun because we got to be
30:13on tv but it wasn't so some of the times you just came on as cute small people look at our adorable
30:19children but then there's a bit where they make you not well i don't know they made you but you
30:23perform well they were co-hosting the show so they do five shows and they'd be sitting on the couch with
30:28him and so i think one day they were like trying to think of things to do that would be fun and
30:32they're like oh well our kids take violin lessons um why don't we have them come out and play but
30:37listen we have the clip no this is this is this is the clip this is the clip from the documentary
30:44this is the favorite of the documentary so here we here we go so this this is ben and his sister amy
30:50on the show oh my gosh and now uh like oh my god well let's listen to you a little bit here we go
30:58were you normally better than this no no this is as good as a guy i love your mother your mother
31:08is kind of embarrassed i think yes your dad your dad is just laughing at you
31:18no he thinks we're doing great oh okay he truly thought we were amazing i love that
31:28that is my mother there is realizing oh there's going to be years of therapy
31:35beautiful you can see ven's tribute to his parents stiller and vera nothing is lost on apple tv right
31:41now yeah meanwhile divine joy randolph brings us eternity it's in cinemas from the 5th of december
31:52and so this is uh there aren't many of them but there are a couple it's an afterlife rom-com okay
31:59and uh so who do you play what's going on tell us what you can so i play a ac which is an afterlife
32:06coordinator so it's like a social worker of purgatory basically and the whole concept is like when people
32:14leave earth they come to this place it's called the junction and we basically my role is that as a ac
32:23is that i help you decide where you would like to spend eternity and there's all these different worlds
32:29of options like beach world and like germany in the 30s before the nazis like no not that's a real thing
32:40i go for beach world yeah and so in our movie um basically uh elizabeth olsen and miles teller
32:53play an old couple he dies by choking on a pretzel that's a sad sad sad way to go
33:00uh and he dies first then she dies and he's waiting for her and then when she dies she's asked
33:10the same question and then callum turner appears and is like i am your long lost first love who was
33:19went to war died in the war and he's waited 67 years for her and so he comes is like babe it's me
33:27and so she has a real dilemma so her choice that well her thing then is whom she is going to spend
33:34eternity with and then shenanigans ensue both hot duh that was hot
33:41big both but yeah it's really cute and it's all this back and forth and she's trying to figure it out
33:47and so my character helps miles's character try to win the girl well that's what we've got we've got a
33:53clip of uh you as anna with miles teller character larry uh discussing his options he looks like
33:59montgomery cliff oh my gosh i was saying this just the other day montgomery cliff he is so handsome
34:07luke is so handsome you're not helping i'm sorry but it is what it is luke is hot his eyes are bluer than
34:14the ocean he has a better narrative no he doesn't i have a better narrative i was married to her for 65
34:20years and i gave her children exactly we go with that that's strong there's nothing more powerful
34:25than emotional blackmail right good on you
34:33i don't know if you know this i i heard elizabeth also talking about this movie and weirdly she said
34:39she do you know this i heard this too i i don't know elizabeth also but i heard her on a talk show
34:44talking about the movie saying that she modeled her character this older lady on my mother i believe
34:50it yeah she watched me amazing she watched tapes of your parents working together that blew my mind
34:55that was yeah the other night i just heard her saying that i believe it yeah i love your father's
34:59physical comedy so much and so when i get a chance to be physical just the way that he was so free in
35:06his body is something like normally directors have to be like tone it down tone it down because i would
35:10literally throw myself across the room if i could do it i just loved how much he just was so in his
35:17body and all his faculties yeah yeah yeah a lot of film actors that you know physicality and movies is
35:23not really i know talked about that much you know because it's all like close up you know but that's
35:27such no i love it but also there's a tone to the comedy in it that kind of tug of love yeah that does
35:32kind of it feeds into that that thing i love that i can't wait to see it it's called eternity and it's out
35:38on the 5th of december uh but we should say people can still enjoy uh you on the small screen
35:44murders only word is in the building oh yes uh only murders in the building
35:50look at those two nut jobs oh we've got we've just finished uh season five here now season six
35:56is happening it is now i hear a rumor it's not a rumor anymore but it might be for you guys go ahead
36:01say it's going to be filmed here it is going to be wow how is that happening when i tell you i
36:07literally don't know okay i don't know how we met but the only thing i think of is like we were in new
36:12york then we had a season in l.a now we're going to london so i genuinely i'm not even like i'm not
36:19gonna tell you i don't know okay how we are going to london but i'm very excited but the new york cop is
36:25coming to london i sure hope so like you know you pitched your thing in the interview where's the camera
36:32john hoffman i would love to be in this next season of only murders in the building
36:40because wouldn't it be so cool and she like had scenes with like the guards right and she's trying
36:45to like make them break and stuff yes like right i can see it or like she wants to go in training to
36:51be one of those because you know she's so tough yeah yeah you join the met it'll be good yeah
36:55oh i love it and then it's been a while uh the fuckers are back yes they're coming back
37:04it's called fucker in law fucker in law
37:09rolls off the tongue don't love it and is everyone back um owen wilson's back robert de niro's back and
37:15uh terry polo's back and blythe thanner's back and the the prospective fucker-in-law is ariana grande
37:25oh wow and when will fucker-in-law be in the world we have this holiday in the states called thanksgiving
37:33you know we've heard of it so it's around now so a year from now it's going to be out oh yeah we
37:39just finished shooting we literally just finished shooting it okay yeah so next thanksgiving yes but we
37:43had a great time she's incredible ariana is like what a amazing you'd worked with her before though
37:48hadn't you uh she was in zoolander 2 we had an orgy scene oh and there was a hippo and and ariana
37:59and myself and a few other random people and that was when we worked together back in the day yeah
38:04beautiful and uh hugh last year such enormous success with your movie deadpool and wolverine i think
38:11was the second biggest movie of the year no for sure yeah yeah come on no but like so every time
38:20you're on you gotta go well i won't be doing that again but then then you keep making another one
38:24and it's a big big hit yeah so are you gonna have to do it again maybe
38:30maybe i'm not saying i am never saying never ever again yeah yeah because i didn't mean it when i said
38:37never until the day when i changed my mind but i really did for quite a few years i meant it do you
38:42think you've got to the point now where they could like ai the body or something yeah i think i've done
38:4710 films i know yeah so i think they've got enough in there oh yes good point in fact i've done your
38:53show five or six times i could be out there in the dressing room right it is time for music this grammy
39:04nominated artist shot to fame with his first single caroline in 2023 here performing 12 12 from his
39:11current album i barely know her it is somber
39:26it's the uk television i don't want anyone else from the hours of 12 to 12
39:38i am not the least compelled by anyone but yourself
39:44i know you want to see me
39:51i know you want to see me
39:53i'm dealing with the cars i've dealt
39:56i know you want to see me
40:05because to me there's no one else
40:07i know you want to see me
40:21you want to see me
40:32I've never felt anything
40:50Like the love from our final days
40:54Why'd you wait?
40:56Just show me who can do it this way
40:59I've never looked at you, looked at you the same
41:03We met you in the London Caspé, I said
41:07Can I say what you almost has to say?
41:10Final mistake
41:11And finally we're happy this way
41:14I've never looked at you, looked at the first place
41:18Was it always in your plan to leave eventually?
41:22It used to mean there's no one else that could make sense of me
41:26That's the final moment to be
41:30I said one, you, me, let's go
41:33In the room with my people I look for you
41:38And what you've been pulling me through
41:40And you look for me too
41:42And now I'm here so straight through too
41:46Oh, do I get so straight into you?
41:49Baby, I'm delusional
41:53And the way you act is usual
41:57Baby, in another world
42:01I don't feel so I've never before
42:05Oh, do I get so straight into you?
42:20In the room with my people I look for you
42:24Would you avoid me or would you love for me too?
42:29Oh, do I get so straight into you?
42:33Oh, do I get so straight into you?
42:35In the room with my people I look for you
42:40Would you avoid me or would you see me through?
42:44Oh, do I get so straight into you?
42:48Oh, do I get so straight into you?
42:51Whoa
42:54Oh
42:55Oh
42:57Yeah
42:59Somber, everybody
43:04And his band, come on over here
43:06Thank you so much for thatło
43:09It was terrific
43:11Come on up
43:13That's the line
43:14And babe, you
43:16And his band
43:17That is Somber, everybody
43:19Oh, you guys are amazing
43:21I have to say, you know, we've been doing the show for a while. We've had lots of musical performances
43:28I've never seen that mic stand before. Well, it's because it's the first of its kind. Oh
43:33What do you what do you call it? Does it have a name a giant ball sack?
43:37How many times does that giant ball sack hit you?
43:49The stem of the giant ball sack is what hits you. You brought it up
43:57Thank you very much that performance that is off your current album. I barely know her there it is
44:07I'm so happy for you because straight out of the gate a Grammy nomination
44:12Amazing! Thank you!
44:18But what I think is really nice about the Grammys is they announce the nominations and then the Grammys aren't for ages
44:22Yeah, like you get to be a nominee for so long. It's lovely. I'm just enjoying it while it lasts and time's ticking
44:29And you know you're young, but you have been doing music since you were very young
44:33Yeah, and am I right thinking about 17 you were like you actually I'm not gonna bother. I'm gonna pack this in
44:38Well, yeah, I was in high school and I was just
44:43Kind of figuring out what I wanted to do with my life. I hated school. It was not for me and
44:49So I kind of I made this one song and it was like
44:53My last hope kind of thing which is kind of funny because I was literally like 16 years old
44:58So it definitely wasn't but I felt that way cuz I was just a little dumbass, but whatever
45:04I posted it on the internet one day
45:07I wrote it and produced it in my room and then I went to bed expecting to get bullied at school the next day
45:12But I woke up and it was viral overnight and then I had every record label in my inbox and I didn't know what to do
45:18So I I got signed and I was able to drop out of school and my mom was really upset about that, but
45:24But now I'm on Graham Norton, so yeah
45:31Who are your musical heroes my musical heroes?
45:37Man Radiohead is my favorite band. I love Jeff Buckley
45:43You're putting me on the spot. I love the strokes velvet underground punishment who?
45:51Capital punishment
45:54The stage presence where in the world did that come from cuz you're young
46:01But when he was moving I was like who is this old soul?
46:05That's why you probably asked about who his muses are because the way he's moving and taking over this space
46:11I was like where do you get that from I learned it all on stage?
46:15I used to be really stiff, but when I walked out to like my first bigger headline show
46:20Yeah of like fans that were all there for me. I can't something just unlocked in me and I don't know like I just tried stuff on stage
46:28It's very cool. I don't think it's that good, but thank you
46:31Well, thank you very much for that great performance. We all really enjoyed it and good luck with the album
46:38And at the Grammys somber everybody
46:48You're going nowhere. You've arrived now
46:50Okay, don't know where it's just time for a quick visit to the big red chair. Who's there? Hello? Hi. Hi. What's your name?
46:58Hey, what's your name and Luke Luke lovely and where you from Luke at Belfast gorgeous and you live there here? I live here
47:04I've lived here for the last year. Okay, really lost the accent
47:12Yeah, I just shot a film there in February anyway, he wasn't there
47:19What do you do here Luke and I'm a management consultant, okay?
47:23Hey, why he's landed on his feet off you go with the story Luke, okay?
47:27So three or four years ago. I had a rather embarrassing operation on my bum my backside so we got bum. Yeah
47:36Anyway, I was in hospital and was getting surgery and it hadn't been really done on someone my age
47:43So my surgeon was rather and apprehensive
47:46But anyway after she did it to me she was she basically said that we needed to take before photos and after photos for the British Medical Journal
47:52So
48:02Two weeks go by and I am getting discharged. So anyway, I have to go get my after photos
48:06So and the person can see I'm very very nervous the photographer and like it was quite an old woman and next thing
48:12She said like don't worry son. I've seen it all. I've seen it all so I
48:15I've I relaxed turned around pulled on my trousers pulled on my pants bent over next thing all I hear is a gasp and holy shit
48:23I just look bright red face. It's like I've seen it all nice on
48:26My son
48:28That was it
48:30I mean I do love that story
48:34Do you want to walk or do you want to be flipped?
48:36Yeah, flip me
48:37Yeah
48:38Yeah
48:39Go on
48:40There you go
48:41Alright
48:42I think we're not missing in that story
48:44Come on
48:45Yeah
48:46I didn't want to cry
48:47I didn't want to cry
48:48What on earth was the operation?
48:50What was the operation?
48:51And why did they need before and after things?
48:53It was a medical journal
48:55Like it's been published
48:57Very dodgy
48:58It's a published book
49:00Google it kids
49:02And okay that really is all we've got time for
49:06If you'd like to have a go and the red show yourself and tell your story you can contact us via our website at this is their address
49:11Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests tonight
49:13Somber
49:16Divine Joy Randolph
49:20Ben Schiller
49:23Kate Hudson
49:25And Hugh Jessman
49:29Join me next week with music guest Jessie J
49:32Bridgerton's Nicola Coughlin
49:34Smouldering Swede Alexander Skarsgård
49:36Hollywood legend Glenn Close
49:38And national treasure Miriam Margulies
49:40I'll see you then
49:41Good night everybody
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