Killer Grannies - Season 1 Episode 03- Granny's Addiction
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00:00Sweet, loving, the ones you trust most.
00:04Lois Reese, Midwestern grandmother to five kids, seemed no different.
00:10But what if this granny wasn't trustworthy at all?
00:13What if behind that smile was not just a con artist, but a killer?
00:21A 911 call came into the Lee County Sheriff's Office from Marina Village at Snug Harbor.
00:26An innocent woman is found murdered while on vacation in Florida.
00:32The girl I know there said, my God, Barb, didn't you know Pam was murdered?
00:36It just made me sick.
00:38The victim is captured on camera with a suspect that looks just like her.
00:43It showed her with like a female companion or a female friend.
00:48They're walking through the parking lot together, going up the elevator,
00:52walking down the hallway into the unit together.
00:54And from that point forward, I never saw the victim on surveillance footage again.
01:03I never would have thought that this is who my suspect was in this case.
01:07We believe that she was on the run.
01:10Our grandmas are the people that you can go to and be comforted when bad things happen.
01:16She was bad for her grandchildren.
01:20Her grandchildren and my children were the same age, and we took them everywhere together.
01:24You would never in a million years think that she could commit a crime like that.
01:29My biggest fear was, I don't want her to do this again.
01:32I don't want her to do this again.
01:50Lee County investigators rushed to the condo complex to respond to the incident.
02:08Initially, when I made entrance into the unit, I did smell something that was foul.
02:13I also noticed that the air in the unit was turned down, like it was cold in there.
02:20I noticed then at the door that separates the bedroom from the master bathroom was closed.
02:26But at the base of the door, there appeared to be towels jammed at the bottom of it.
02:31That may be to keep a smell in or out or to muffle the sound of something.
02:35And once we go in, we find that that's where the body was.
02:45The decedent was on the floor, feet towards the door.
02:48A towel was draped over the decedent's arms and head area.
02:54We were unable to see any wounds on her.
02:57It was hard to see if there was any kind of struggle.
02:59I was still up in the air with it.
03:02When the medical examiner arrives, they start lifting the sheets and towels off.
03:07You could tell that it was a female.
03:10There is a pillow near the body with what appears to be a gunshot hole through it.
03:15There is some soot on the outside of it.
03:17That was possibly used to muffle the sound of a gun being shot at close range.
03:23The female was older.
03:25I would say 60s.
03:27We saw a probable bullet wound.
03:30We then realized that it turned into a full-blown homicide that she had been killed.
03:38At that point, we did not locate a weapon.
03:42There was no indication of a struggle.
03:44There was no defensive marks, as far as we could tell, on the decedent.
03:48It looked as if she had just been taken by surprise.
03:51Marina Village at Snug Harbor is the apartment and condo complex.
03:57It's used as timeshare, so it does kind of have a transient occupancy a little bit.
04:02We got the name from the complainant of, hey, this lady is the one who checked in.
04:09We checked her driver's license.
04:11She had checked in as Pamela Hutchinson.
04:13But no one felt comfortable enough at that time, at least, to make a positive identification
04:19because of the decount to the face and the bloating and everything.
04:24I knew I had another female.
04:25She was supposedly there by herself.
04:28I'm thinking to myself, maybe someone followed her home, tried to rob her.
04:32It turned bad.
04:33I just didn't know at that point.
04:34With their investigation stretching through the night, detectives hope an autopsy can give
04:42them some new information.
04:44They decide to wait to tell the family until they can be sure that the body is Pam Hutchinson.
04:51It was a small caliber round that killed our victim, possibly a .22 caliber.
04:57We were able to identify her through dental records.
05:00The victim in the bathroom was identified as Pamela Hutchinson.
05:06So we start making phone calls to next of kin.
05:17I was at a local bar restaurant when Pam's cousin-in-law called me to inform me that Pam had been murdered.
05:27I was devastated.
05:29I mean, you hear about things like that happening every day to somebody else.
05:36But you don't think that can ever happen to somebody you know.
05:43I live in Bradenton, Florida, and I met Pam Hutchinson in late 2015.
05:52She was somebody that would strike up a conversation with anybody.
05:56Pam kind of had that southern hospitality.
06:03I felt like he knew her all my life.
06:05She was raised down south, and her family used to have a peanut stand where they'd sell peanuts along the road.
06:15She was from Virginia Beach.
06:18Her father died when she was really young, but she was really close to her mother.
06:23Then the mother passed away not too long before she came down here seeking a new life after she broke up with her husband.
06:32While I was searching for a place to purchase, I ran into Pam, and she said, why don't you move in with me for a while?
06:40Well, from the start, we just clicked.
06:43We liked the same things.
06:44We liked to bake.
06:45We both believed in God.
06:47We both jabbered a lot.
06:49The detectives reach out to Pam's family and friends to pick up the details about Pam's trip to Fort Myers Beach.
07:00So I was living with Pam at the time she decided that she was going to go to Sanibel Island at Fort Myers Beach.
07:08She had come down to the area to be with a friend whose husband had passed,
07:13and they were going to scatter his ashes on Sanibel Island, which is an island in the area.
07:18We did text when she arrived at Fort Myers Beach.
07:23Yeah, I made it.
07:24Okay, good.
07:25Go.
07:25Have a good time.
07:27Just relax.
07:29Life is short.
07:31And then I didn't hear from her after that.
07:33I owned a timeshare at Marina Village for many years.
07:45So I called Marina Village at Snug Harbor, and I said, what's going on?
07:50The girl I know there said, my God, Barb, didn't you know Pam was murdered?
07:55And I'm just like, what?
07:59It just made me sick.
08:03I never recalled Pam having any enemies that would ever consider doing her harm.
08:14She was actually what I considered my best friend at the time.
08:20It's still hard to get over, you know?
08:24Word of Pam's death gets around fast, but her poor family doesn't have any idea who might have done it.
08:39The Fort Myers detectives keep digging, hoping they can find anything that'll point to who's behind this awful crime.
08:46The Lee County Sheriff's Office knew that Pam had come down on vacation to help a friend of hers whose husband had just died shortly before.
08:55At that point, they didn't really have a suspect.
09:00They started to look at the surveillance videos to try and see who maybe had been with Pamela at that point.
09:06When we were collecting all the evidence in the unit, we found a receipt for the Smokin' Oyster Brewery.
09:12It had a date and time stamp on it.
09:15We sent detectives to the restaurant, and they collected the video for that time stamp.
09:20We also made contact with the complainant from Marina Village at Snug Harbor, and asked to review her surveillance footage.
09:31We were starting to go back to the day that our victim arrived, and watching her come in, we see what kind of car she was driving, a white Acura four-door vehicle.
09:46They were made at my bell.
09:48The footage shows that Pam is alone at the condo from April 3rd to April 5th.
10:06But what about after that?
10:08Detectives decide to take a gander at the footage they collected from April 6th at the Smokin' Oyster Brewery.
10:16And that's where we see footage of our victim, but it also showed her with, like, a female companion or a female friend.
10:25The female was very talkative, very jovial, like, easy to get along with.
10:30She was talking to everybody that got close to her.
10:33So, after finishing their meal at Smokin' Oyster Brewery, they both left the area together.
10:42So, did Pam go back to her condo with her new friend?
10:46The investigators checked the footage from the complex to find out.
10:50About an hour after, both of them were seen walking to the room together.
10:58They're walking through the parking lot together, going up the elevator, walking down the hallway into the unit together.
11:04A short time later, the female, which she entered with, came out kind of looking distraught.
11:13So, it was concerning at that point.
11:16It looked as if she was almost talking to herself.
11:19She was walking around.
11:20She was leaning over.
11:22Again, it looked like she was upset emotionally.
11:24And from that point forward, I never saw the victim on surveillance footage again.
11:31At that point, then, we knew who we were looking for.
11:34A white female, I would guesstimate between 50, 60 years of age.
11:38I was surprised.
11:40I'm thinking, wow, this reminds me of my grandma.
11:47Her facade was probably of an innocent lady.
11:51You can tell something was changing in her.
11:55She had a love for the casinos, a love for gambling.
11:59It has become this odd crime spree of the most unassuming-looking grandmother.
12:06I was concerned about her trying to go to Mexico.
12:10I was like, this is a problem.
12:11When poor Pam Hutchinson is discovered shot to death in her Fort Myers rental, investigators
12:27sift through hours and hours of footage, looking for one unusual suspect in particular.
12:32I never would have thought that this is who my suspect was in this case.
12:38She had blonde hair.
12:39She wasn't very tall, maybe 5'5", 5'6".
12:42And those, again, are characteristics that were somewhat similar to our victim.
12:47At that point, I wasn't sure if it was a friend, but to me, it appeared as if she had just met
12:54this person.
12:55It was my belief that the homicide probably had occurred on April 5th, just before we saw the
13:03suspect exit the room and appear distraught.
13:07On surveillance footage, on April 6th, 2018, I no longer see our victim coming and going.
13:15I only see our suspect coming and going from the victim's room.
13:19It appeared as if she took a lot of evidence from the unit itself.
13:23She was also adorning herself in the victim's clothing, specifically a hat, I remember, and
13:29sunglasses.
13:30And it was almost as if she was assuming her identity.
13:33And we see her driving away in our victim's car at this point.
13:41Once we saw her leave with the victim's vehicle and we no longer had her on any surveillance
13:47footage, we believed that she was on the run.
13:51She had a head start from us.
13:53From the time we last saw the suspect on surveillance to the time of the 911 call was about four days.
14:00We've got to figure out where she's at.
14:04We start looking for our victim's car.
14:06We're putting license plates into our license plate reader system, flagging them as a homicide suspect.
14:14At that point, we knew of no witnesses.
14:17We did an extensive canvas of everyone that was in the building.
14:21Some had already come and gone.
14:22Again, this is spring break.
14:24But there's no obvious way that Pam and the gray-haired mystery lady would know each other.
14:35The only clue the guys have to work with are the two cars caught on tape at the crime scene.
14:41Pam's Acura and the other lady's Escalade.
14:44They check recent police reports to see if anything comes up.
14:48Before we found the body, our units on the beach were provided information to be on the lookout
14:55for Lois Reese from Minnesota, because they believed that she had been in the area in her white Escalade.
15:02Lois Reese had a warrant for her arrest out of Blooming Prairie, Minnesota, in reference to a fraud case.
15:08Now there's an aha moment.
15:11Their suspect was in a white Escalade, too.
15:14Could it be the same one Lois Reese was driving?
15:17It was just, let me just take a chance.
15:21Let me just see.
15:23I called the local jurisdiction up in Minnesota, but this one just kind of took me by surprise.
15:29They had a murder investigation on going there.
15:33Lois Reese was a person of interest at the time.
15:36They didn't have charges on her for murder, but her husband, David Reese, was killed.
15:41So they were looking for her.
15:42The Dodge County Sheriff's Office had mentioned that they had secured an arrest warrant for her
15:47because she withdrew approximately $11,000 from David Reese's bank account after she had fled the area.
15:54Even though the police in Minnesota figured that Lois Reese had flipped from kindly grandmother to husband killer,
16:02they could only get a warrant for the money she stole from his account.
16:05I asked them for a photo of the person of interest that they had up in Minnesota,
16:10and I took that photo, I printed it off, and as I'm watching the surveillance footage,
16:15I put it right up next to the screen, and I paused it, and I said, that's her.
16:20I spoke specifically and directly with the detectives involved with the murder investigation
16:28and the grand theft investigation, and they relayed the scene that they encountered in that area.
16:34They told me they received a call to do a welfare check on David Reese.
16:39Dave's employees had not seen him for almost two weeks, and Lois had been telling them that he was ill.
16:55On the 22nd, they saw Lois driving out in Dave's white Escalade.
17:03The employees said, something's up.
17:06So they called the local police to come and do a welfare check.
17:13Blooming Prairie police went to the house, knocked, couldn't get anybody,
17:17walked around, found an open window in the back, which is unusual because it's March in Minnesota.
17:23And they saw a body through the window that was open.
17:30They were able to make entry, get inside the house, made their way to the master bath.
17:36And the door was closed, things up against the door.
17:41They found who they believed to be David Reese in the bathroom.
17:46It did not look like the body had moved.
17:49It looked like Dave laid where he fell after he got shot twice, again covered with a towel.
17:55According to the Dodge County Sheriff's Office, David had been dead for at least a few days.
18:02And at that point, Lois was nowhere to be found.
18:05It sounded very similar to what I had found in the unit down here.
18:14The victim up in Minnesota was killed in the bathroom.
18:18It appeared to be a small caliber round.
18:20And then also a towel was draped over the decedent up in Minnesota, same as down here.
18:25The bathroom window was open to, again, let in cold air, again similar to Lois dropping the air in the unit.
18:34She turned the air down, tried to keep the smell out.
18:38I was shocked.
18:39I would have never just thought walking down the street, oh, that lady's responsible for the deaths of two people.
18:44So everything we put out at that point was she's wanted and she's considered armed and dangerous.
18:52We needed to find her as soon as possible because my biggest fear was I don't want her to do this again.
18:57Investigators in Florida find out that their suspect, Lois Reese, likely shot her poor husband in Minnesota two weeks before she did the same thing to Pam Hutchinson.
19:17They put the word out all over the state to be on the lookout for Lois and then pry into her past to see if they can figure out why she did it.
19:27Lois and Dave moved to Blooming Prairie about 2005 or 2006, somewhere in there.
19:35Dave and Lois were really a friendly couple.
19:38Everybody loved to hang out with them and laugh with them.
19:42Lois was born and raised in Rochester, Minnesota.
19:46Dave also grew up in Rochester.
19:50Lois dropped out of high school as a junior and was already dating Dave.
19:53They got married and had three children very quickly.
20:00Lois, she just had this instant draw.
20:04She was just super fun, very sweet, great laugh and just makes you feel very comfortable.
20:12Lois, for many years, while her children were young especially, had a daycare in her home.
20:17If you went to Lois' daycare, you were privileged.
20:22Like, she, everybody wanted Lois to watch her kids.
20:25She was phenomenal.
20:27She was a good mom and a good grandmother and did the things that good moms and grandmas are supposed to do.
20:35Our grandmas are the people that you can go to and be comforted when bad things happen.
20:42Lois was bad for her grandchildren.
20:44Her grandchildren and my children were the same age and we took them everywhere together.
20:51Bringing them to, like, the zoo and the beach and just doing lots of fun stuff.
20:57She's just, like, the sweetest little grandma.
20:59Dave was a jolly, fun guy.
21:06If you were in a bad mood, sit by Dave because he'd have you laughing in a minute.
21:10He had this infectious, deep laugh.
21:13Always told jokes.
21:14Loved to talk about fishing.
21:16That was his favorite thing to do.
21:17Dave ran a waxworm business, so he actually grew waxworms from nothing.
21:26And they would sell them at fisheries, bait shops, stuff like that.
21:32Lois seemed very happy.
21:33So did Dave.
21:34Never would have guessed there was, like, deeper problems involved.
21:43I think it wasn't until later on in the years where you can tell something was changing in her.
21:50Everyone knew that Lois and Dave liked to go to the casino, especially Lois.
21:55It was something that a lot of the Blooming Prairie people their age did on the weekends.
22:03Later on, when she would call me and be like, hey, can I use you for an excuse?
22:10I'm going to the casino and I don't want Dave to know.
22:14That's when I kind of realized that maybe it was getting a little too much.
22:20She had confided a couple of times, just exhausted.
22:25And I said to her, I'm like, you're going to snap.
22:31I panicked because then we find out Dave's dead.
22:35And Lois is nowhere to be found.
22:38She's not answering my phone calls, not texting me back.
22:41So then I'm like, oh my gosh, did something happen to her?
22:44Was she kidnapped?
22:45Was she murdered and taken away?
22:47Like, I had no idea.
22:50Two weeks later, Lois has managed to avoid Minnesota police for killing her husband
23:00and Florida police for killing Pam.
23:03And the cops realized that she could already be days and miles ahead of them.
23:08So while they look for her, they try to figure out what she was up to right before she killed Pam.
23:14So prior to the homicide, we had learned that Lois Reese was spotted on Fort Myers Beach
23:22by Tess Coster, a part-time resident of Florida.
23:26We were part-time here and part-time in Minnesota.
23:31Tess was from Blooming Prairie.
23:33And so she was aware of the murder investigation that was happening up in that area at the time
23:38and knew about Lois Reese and what she may be wanted for.
23:42On April 2nd, I was cleaning my garage.
23:53Then I saw this pearl-colored Cadillac Escalade pull up in our driveway.
23:58And someone got out, looked at the house number.
24:01And so I stepped out of the garage and said, can I help you?
24:04And she looked up and just shock was in her eyes.
24:07And she said, wrong house, wrong house.
24:09And looked down like this and shook her head and went around to her Escalade and got in and drove away.
24:18Well, my heart just started pounding because here was Lois Reese in my driveway.
24:26When she saw the person who she believed to be Lois in the driveway, it scared her.
24:31And she wanted to make, you know, the sheriff's office aware down here, which she did.
24:36But unfortunately, she was able to stay hidden from us.
24:40A few days later, Lois Reese killed our victim.
24:46I'm thinking she was after me first.
24:49She got fouled out because I saw her and called 911 on her.
24:53She had a plan in mind, but Tess interrupted that.
24:56And so instead of moving forward at that point, she just took a step back and went another way.
25:03The detectives figured that Lois switched gears and decided that someone like Pam wouldn't see her coming.
25:11Lois was clearly desperate.
25:14She was definitely looking for more money and more options.
25:17In homicides that I've worked, everything has a reason.
25:23And this reason in my mind was to assume the identity of the victim and use it for what she could.
25:32I think she targeted her because they were similar.
25:36Someone like-minded, similar characteristics, skin color, hair, age.
25:41She's already committed two murders, and she's still in the wind.
25:48We did search warrants on her cell phone.
25:50We did search warrants on the financial information for Lois, but then also for our victim as well.
25:56She had made several withdrawals from ATMs using the victim's information a couple days after the murder.
26:03We also have her on video up in the Ocala area, central Florida, checking into a hotel under the identity of our victim, wearing the same hat that our victim had in her room.
26:15However, by the time I found this, Lois had already come and gone.
26:20We know we have you.
26:21We just got to find you, and you're assuming the identity of our victim.
26:25Double-murdering granny, Lois Reese, has a jump on Lee County cops, so they cast a wider net across the south to see if they can catch back up.
26:43Sure enough, another clue turns up.
26:45We had tracked her to a casino in Louisiana and found out that she hit a jackpot for $1,500.
26:57She actually used her own name and ID to claim the winnings.
27:02She did have a gambling addiction, and that may very well be a good reason as to why Lois used her own information to collect the winnings.
27:11She felt proud.
27:12It made me mad that she just seemed to be out there enjoying herself and just continuing to live her life, knowing that she had committed one murder in Florida and most likely another one in Minnesota.
27:28But Lois is slippery.
27:31She's long gone days before police get the alert, and they're once again left chasing her shadow.
27:37I was able to present the case to the state attorney's office and walked a warrant through for the murder, at which point then that went nationwide.
27:48We alerted everybody that we could.
27:51Federal agencies, state law enforcement, local agencies, anywhere and everywhere that we think she may be going.
27:57We made them aware to be on the lookout for, one, Lois Reese herself, but then also the vehicle that she was driving.
28:04It became an all-points bulletin across the United States.
28:08They put up bulletin boards around lots of different areas, Texas, Louisiana, Florida, with Pamela's picture and information on it.
28:16So it became more than just a Florida or a Minnesota story.
28:20It became a coast-to-coast story.
28:22Lois became known, very well known, as the killer grandma.
28:25With Lois' escape route now crossing state lines, the heat gets turned way up.
28:35The hunt for granny is now nationwide.
28:39People wanted answers, and people needed to know.
28:41I mean, she knew a lot of people in that town.
28:46Do you think she's around here?
28:47Do you think she might shoot anybody else?
28:49The whole entire community was completely shocked and very sad, very sad.
28:57Like I said, everybody loved Dave.
28:59Everybody loved Lois.
29:00So it was mad at Lois.
29:03It was sad about Dave.
29:04It was a very crazy dynamic that was going on there.
29:07I had to actually turn the TVs off and not let anyone turn them on because my sons were small and Dave and Lois were grandma and grandpa to them.
29:19My thoughts on seeing Lois wearing Pam's clothes, I can't hardly comprehend it right now because it really bothers me.
29:35It's just so abusive.
29:36It's just a terrible reminder of what happened to Pam.
29:42I definitely wanted her caught.
29:46Please, God, get her before she kills another woman.
29:51Killer granny Lois is just leaving chaos in her wake.
29:55But the search stretches into another week without the cops catching up to her.
30:00However, they do catch the news that she's headed south.
30:04There were several other license plate reader hits along a route to Texas heading south.
30:14I had a thought that she would be trying to leave the country.
30:19Who knows where she's going next?
30:21But I think we know she could kill someone again because that's already happened twice.
30:26We were tracking Lois through license plate readers on the victim's car.
30:30Eventually, it came to South Padre Island.
30:37South Padre Island, Texas, very close to the border.
30:40On April 19th, we received information from the U.S. Marshals Service that she had went into a bar and restaurant called Dirty Owls and basically was looking at a menu.
30:54And the manager there actually recognized her and called in a tip to the local police department at a marshal's service.
31:01When the marshals got to South Padre Island, they canvassed the area and actually located the vehicle at a restaurant right adjacent to Dirty Owls.
31:12They got the marshals rallied and trooped up.
31:16And Lois was by then sitting in the bar and yucking it up like she didn't have a care in the world.
31:23I was elated.
31:26She wasn't going to be able to keep this up forever.
31:28Cops have been looking everywhere for double-murdering grandma, Lois Reese.
31:37But the U.S. Marshals finally catch up.
31:40And she's just sitting there, sipping a drink in South Padre.
31:44Just a hop, skip and a jump from Mexico.
31:48This cadre of marshals moved in, four or five of them, and said, we're going to take you outside.
31:55Don't make a scene.
31:55There was no resistance from Lois, and it was very interesting to me how just calm, cool, and collected she was.
32:04She didn't fight.
32:04She didn't resist.
32:05She didn't ask a bunch of questions.
32:08She got up off her chair, and out they went.
32:13She almost just went willingly with the authorities.
32:18I think Lois knew that she was caught, that it was done.
32:21There was a bulletin over the Associated Press that she had been arrested.
32:27When I heard that they had caught her at South Padre Island, it was really a relief.
32:36It was like, this is one closure.
32:40They caught her.
32:41The grandma killer.
32:42Arrangements were made for us to fly out to South Padre Island.
32:49We knew we wanted to speak with her, and we were hoping that she would speak with us.
32:54I remember her being led from the holding cell into the interview room, and she kind of just looked right through me.
33:03And so instead of her being the outgoing, jovial person that we see, once she was caught, her whole demeanor changed.
33:11She was defeated almost.
33:13And without saying another word, she said she wanted an attorney.
33:20With Lois lawyered up, there's no way she's going to confess.
33:24So it's up to the cops to find some physical evidence that can tie this granny to the two murders.
33:32She had secured a hotel room at a Motel 6 just down the street.
33:37According to hotel receipts, Lois checked in on April 9th.
33:43She lived a good life for 10 days before they caught up to her.
33:47We were able to secure search warrants for the motel room where she was staying at, and we found two handguns, a 9mm and a .22 caliber.
33:56The .22 caliber specifically we believe to be the murder weapon.
34:01We found the victim's clothing, and specifically the hat that was shown on surveillance footage of her wearing at the bank at the hotel after she had committed the murder.
34:13Also, something of note was a black bag, kind of like a go bag.
34:17And inside there was latex gloves, there was duct tape, there was our victim's personal information, her wallet, driver's license.
34:26I think that Lois, in her desperation, because she was, I'm sure, getting antsy wanting to gamble with this addiction of hers, I think she knew that Pam had money.
34:43I think she killed Pamela to get another car and to get more money.
34:48And so she clearly had a bit of a pattern.
34:53So she gets to South Padre Island.
34:56She goes and finds herself a spot to sit and kind of blend in and start hunting.
35:04We did an extensive canvas, and we spoke with numerous people that she came into contact with.
35:12We were able to confirm with a lot of witnesses.
35:16She was just having a great time hanging with people, having drinks at the bar, hanging out by the pool.
35:21She told some people that she was a grandmother, she had kids, grandkids, that she was a widow, that her husband died recently.
35:29Her facade was probably of an innocent lady.
35:33Anybody will talk to her.
35:38I came across a lady who said that she interacted often with Lois.
35:42They went to dinner together.
35:44She actually invited her at one point back to her own house.
35:49She had kind of befriended Lois.
35:52I remember specifically she had different color hair.
35:54But I also know that in the search warrant at the motel room, there was hair dye that we collected.
36:00It was a dark color, just like the witness out there.
36:04And she possibly thought that she might be her next victim.
36:11I do think she was planning on killing somebody in South Padre also, and getting a new identity to go across the border.
36:18So, between this gal in South Padre and myself, we're very lucky that we're still here.
36:26It was a relief that she'd been caught.
36:29The so-called manhunt for the killer grandma was over, and now came a hard part, the court case.
36:36This was a seminal moment for this case.
36:39The court proceedings, facing here in Florida, and in Minnesota as well.
36:43After she led the cops on a many-state wild goose chase, killer granny Lois Reese has to face the music for killing Pam Hutchinson in Florida and her husband, David Reese, in Minnesota.
37:03So, in Florida, she was charged with first-degree homicide.
37:06She was also charged in Minnesota with first-degree homicide.
37:10Based on the crime, death penalty was on the table for her.
37:16Once Lois is locked up and staring down the consequences, including the possibility of the death penalty, she suddenly has a change of heart.
37:27I eventually heard that Lois pled guilty to the crime of murder down here in exchange for the death penalty being taken off the table.
37:40I wanted it to go to trial.
37:45They claimed that they didn't want to put the family through any extra whatever, but I'd have been in court every day.
37:53I wanted no mercy for her.
37:55On December 18th, 2019, in Lee County Court, Lois pled guilty to murder.
38:04It became a huge story.
38:07Major breaking news.
38:08The so-called killer grandma on Fort Myers Beach will spend the rest of her life in prison after pleading guilty.
38:13Once the case was wrapped up in Florida, she was then transported up to Minnesota, where she also entered a plea of guilty up there.
38:23All investigators can hope is that Lois' statement just shows us all how she went from loving grandmother to husband killer.
38:32Lois' story is that he was mad and they had argued and that he walked into their bedroom, and he had a .22 in his bedroom, handed her the gun, and said, well, why don't you just kill yourself?
38:54She claims that that just set her off, and she said, I aimed right at his heart, and I pulled the trigger.
39:08I didn't believe that.
39:10Based on where he was in the bathroom, I mean, if she did have that argument outside of the bathroom where the guns were kept, she's not moving that man into the bathroom.
39:19That's why I think she snuck up on him, just like she probably did our victim in Fort Myers Beach.
39:26Everything's a lie with her.
39:32Lois' addiction, from what the authorities in Minnesota told me, was gambling.
39:36She had a love for the casinos, a love for gambling, and that was part of the problem that she had with her husband, from what I was told.
39:44The waxworm farm was successful, but it was not making money because Lois was spending it all, and asking Dave for more money, and not terribly long before he was killed, he said, I'm done.
40:01I'm cutting her off.
40:02And I just think that everything caught up with her.
40:06That's the only thing I could think of why she would do any of this, is just a legit mental breakdown.
40:14She finally reached a breaking point, and she chose the most drastic route.
40:22In Florida, she got a life sentence, and eventually she got the same in Minnesota.
40:28It was just so sad that, you know, to lose a friend, and lose Dave, and lose her, and you want to still love them because you're your friend, but what she did was so horrible.
40:48And to this day, it's still crazy to me.
40:50Like, I just don't, I still can't wrap my head around it.
41:00Dave was fantastic.
41:02His laugh was so contagious.
41:04If you ever heard his laugh, you will never forget it.
41:07Super friendly.
41:09He loved to, like, give hugs, and he was just so great.
41:13One of my favorite memories of Pam, when she would come home, if I wasn't up, she'd wake me up, and we'd sit there and talk for two, three hours until I'd finally say, Pam, I've got to go to bed.
41:30And we would jabber-jabber for hours, just talk and laugh and joke.
41:35She just had a good heart.
41:37She had a very good heart.
41:38I mean, the ripple effects of not only her murder victims, but people who love them, her own children, her own grandchildren.
41:53I mean, oh, God, the pain.
41:57I feel like Lois kind of tainted the grandmother image for all of us.
42:02I have 10 grandkids myself.
42:04Love them all dearly.
42:06Talk about them all the time, just like she does.
42:08And as a grandmother myself, I can't imagine being less than the best example I can be for my grandchildren.
42:16And that's how it should be.
42:18That's just how it should be.
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