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Superheroes make mistakes and sometimes do the wrong thing for the most noble of reasons.
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00:00Many actions happen in a matter of seconds, and every superhero has aspirations to do the right
00:05thing. But sometimes, like all people, they fall a little bit short. Their intentions are good,
00:10but they do the wrong thing at the wrong time. They make a mistake. And that's what we're here
00:15to discuss today. As I'm Jules, this is WhatCulture.com, and these are 10 times superheroes
00:19did the wrong thing for the right reason. 10. Salvation Run
00:24The president authorized a program to capture the world's supervillains and send them off-world.
00:29That order was carried out by the Suicide Squad. The villains have been diverted to a hostile planet,
00:35and alliances were formed almost immediately. Luthor created one with the promise of getting
00:39everyone home, and the Joker gathered the crazier villains to start some trouble. It was then
00:43revealed that Darkseid's torturer, Dassad, had diverted these villains there as some targets
00:48for his new parademons. Luthor created his teleporter and got many of the villains home,
00:52but had to kill some in order to power it. Now, besides the legal ramifications,
00:56this plan was doomed to fail. Putting this many volatile personalities together in one place,
01:02even a place where they had to depend on each other for survival, was just a powder keg in
01:05search of a match. And introducing the Joker into that wasn't just providing a match,
01:10it was providing a goddamn flamethrower. Something needed to be done about the supervillain problem.
01:15As let's face it, even a wedding isn't safe from a supervillain attack, and there were so many
01:19villains with so many powers that the heroes barely had any time to react from one fire to the
01:24next. But still, this plan here, wasn't it.
01:279. The Justice League Lobotomizes Villains
01:30After the heinous sexual assault of Sue Dibney, wife of the elongated man, on the Justice League
01:35satellite, Zatanna wiped the mind of Dr. Light. She also made an adjustment to his personality.
01:41And Batman arrived on the satellite when she was in the middle of this,
01:44and she was forced to take a few minutes of his memories as well. On an earlier occasion,
01:48five members of the secret society of supervillains swapped bodies with five members of the Justice
01:53League. Zatanna wiped out their memories as well as, perhaps, others.
01:57Arguably, there is no greater crime than having your mind violated. Removing information is one
02:01thing, but to alter a person's personality is terrible. And to alter the mind of a friend or
02:07colleague like Batman is even worse. Batman prides himself on his mind, and doing anything to it is
02:12cutting him much more deeply than any knife. However, the civilians in the heroes' lives have to be
02:17protected. There is no hero that you can name that doesn't have some kind of tragedy in their
02:21backstory, and a near constant battle to protect the people they love in their current exploits.
02:26Nothing is scarier than knowing that your loved one is in danger, especially if you put them there.
02:318. Wonder Woman Snaps Max Lorde's Neck
02:34Maxwell Lorde used the mental powers bestowed by the Gene Bomb in order to obtain the position of
02:39Checkmate's Black King. Lorde convinced Brother Eye that the metahumans were a danger to the human
02:44population. Lorde also gained mental control of Superman. Wonder Woman tried to convince Lorde
02:49to let Superman go, even binding him in her lasso. And seeing no other way out, Diana snapped Lorde's
02:55neck, killing him. But Lorde arranged for his death to be broadcast worldwide. Wonder Woman should
03:00have found another way. She should have tried to knock him out, or call the Martian Manhunter,
03:05Zatanna, or others that could have broken the mind control. Just because Lorde said that the only way
03:09of ending his control was by killing him, didn't actually mean that it was so. Diana didn't have
03:13to do it alone, and killing Lorde practically destroyed her mission of peace in man's world.
03:18Max Lorde needed to be stopped. He killed the Blue Beetle. He manipulated his way into one of
03:23the government's lead clandestine agencies, and the scope of his power made him a threat to anyone he
03:28encountered. If he could control Superman, there were very few people who would be immune to his power.
03:32But still, killing him in this fashion was not the plan that people needed.
03:367. Kingdom Comes Kansas Gulag
03:39On Earth-22, the Gulag was the nickname given to the Superhuman Rehabilitation Facility that
03:45Superman created to house and re-educate those young, violent superheroes who simply refused to
03:50comply when Superman and the earlier generation of heroes returned. The facility was created with
03:54the intention of housing people for months. However, within two weeks, it was far beyond capacity.
03:59The prisoners revolted, and a brainwashed Captain Marvel breached the escape-proof walls.
04:03The American government sent over a nuclear bomb, which Marvel detonated in the air,
04:08but it still killed most of the people there. In this moment, Superman had created a ticking
04:12time bomb. He put the worst, most violent beings on the planet into one place. He forgot that not
04:17everyone was impressed by or could be intimidated by him. Some of the members of this new generation
04:22just didn't care about anything, even life or death. Superman had to come back and teach the
04:27new generation what it meant to be a hero, and so many of them were indistinguishable from the
04:32villains they fought. They would fight for fighting's sake and not care about the collateral damage.
04:37Superman, at his best, is both inspirational and aspirational, and he needed to step away
04:42from the farm to remind himself and these kids of that.
04:456. The Illuminati Removing the Hulk From Earth
04:48SHIELD director Maria Hill contacted Iron Man about the Hulk, who had recently destroyed parts
04:53of Las Vegas. And here Tony brought a plan to his fellow members of the Illuminati, and that plan was
04:58to send the Hulk to an uninhabited planet where he could be alone. Namor declined and said that when
05:03the Hulk would return, he would seek vengeance against them. But the other four in attendance
05:07said yes, and they tricked Banner onto a SHIELD satellite that was in need of repair and then
05:11shot him into deep space. However, a malfunction sent Hulk to a war-torn planet where he had to
05:16battle daily. Bruce obviously wanted to step away from people as he was hiding in Alaska at the time,
05:21and if Tony had come to Bruce and offered him a ship equipped with the means to work on a cure
05:25and the means to live a comfortable, solitary life, Bruce probably would have gone without a fight.
05:30Now, something definitely had to be done about the Hulk. When Hulk was under Banner's control,
05:34his capacity for good was almost incalculable. But when the Hulk was a mindless force of nature,
05:38he was a deadly storm of destructive rage. Only the Hulk's friends stopped his rampages
05:43occasionally. But the idea of sending him to a planet where he would become king,
05:47and then that planet would be destroyed, and then he would be even more angry,
05:50was probably not the plan that everyone envisioned.
05:52Number 5. Hal Jordan and Zero Hour
05:55Hal Jordan, possessed by the fear creature Parallax, planned to restart the universe to
06:00reflect his own views. Hal wanted to eliminate all evil and resurrect his destroyed hometown,
06:05Coast City. Parallax fought the heroes, was weakened by the Spectre, and was killed by the Green Arrow.
06:10A new Big Bang happened and repaired time through natural means instead of a guided hand.
06:14Now, Hal tried to recreate Coast City with his ring, but this was a violation of the core rules,
06:19and it got him called in to be reprimanded. But the devastated Jordan left many of his fellow
06:24lanterns for dead as he took their rings. Hal murdered the Guardians and took the power from
06:28the central control battery. This made him an easy target for the Parallax entity that had been
06:33trapped within. Now, the DC universe needed to be fixed. The crisis on Infinite Earths took more than
06:3750 years of stories and tried to distill everything down to a single cohesive history on one planet.
06:43But things fell through the cracks. The histories of a few characters refused to be retconned,
06:47so the writers and artists tried on their own to fix it, with varying degrees of success.
06:524. No More Mutants
06:54As the House of M reality was falling apart, Wanda whispered these three words,
06:59No. More. Mutants. When normal reality returned, it was estimated that 9 out of every 10 mutants had
07:05lost their powers on M-Day, or the Decimation. Former mutants were targeted and began seeking safe
07:11havens. The estimated 198 known mutants assembled at Xavier's school and received governmental
07:17protection. X-Factor Investigations declared their area as Mutant Town and made it a safe place for
07:22mutants as well. Even though Wanda had been manipulated from all sides during the House of
07:26M storyline, she had no right to destroy the mutant population. Some mutants died immediately
07:31because their mutation was so extreme that it was the only thing keeping them alive. Some didn't want
07:35to live in a world without their powers, and some were murdered because of what they had done when
07:39they had those powers. But while the decimation of this species was terrible, it did force the
07:44mutant community to start paying closer attention to its members. It forced them to become self-policing,
07:49self-controlling, and not letting people with world-ending powers run around unchallenged.
07:53It made the mutants more responsible for their actions, but did it have to come at the cost of
07:57nearly 90% of their kind? Definitely not.
07:593. Batman's Contingency Plans
08:02Realizing that they were among the most powerful beings on the planet, Batman had created contingency
08:07plans for all of the members of the Justice League, past and present. He did this in case
08:11they became corrupted, became mind-controlled, or just simply turned evil. All of his plans
08:16were to detain and incapacitate, but Ra's al Ghul once stole his plans and altered them
08:20to be deadly for members of the League. It was Batman's distrust, his need to be in control,
08:25and the need to keep everything secret that was his undoing in the Tower of Babel incident.
08:30If he had simply revealed to the League that because of the semi-regular frequency of the team
08:34being mind-controlled, but Batman had come up with plans to neutralize them until the threat
08:38has passed, that simple statement would have saved a world of headaches. But the contingency
08:42plans did have to be made. Too many of the villains had taken complete control of the League
08:46in recent history, and it was only luck or the villain's arrogance that allowed the League
08:50to win in the end. And Batman was, after all, only human. When he worked and fought amongst
08:55gods every day, he kind of had to be prepared.
08:572. The Superhero Civil War
09:00The new warrior's mistake cost 600 people their lives, and triggered a movement to make every
09:05person with powers register with the government. Captain America had seen the corruption and
09:09misuse of government power far too often, and knew that registered heroes would be limited in who
09:13they could help. Iron Man believed that the heroes needed to be held responsible and policed.
09:18Sides were definitely picked, battle lines were definitely drawn, and people were definitely
09:22hurt and killed. It took Cap's seeing that the public was on Iron Man's side to finally get
09:27him to stand down. But it didn't need to come to blows. Iron Man, Reed Richards, and Hank Pym
09:31didn't need to create a clone of Thor, and it certainly didn't need to kill Bill Foster.
09:36If Steve and Tony had remembered that they were friends, and that Tony had been against
09:39registration for years, and that Cap was against children putting themselves in harm's way,
09:44they could have found common ground. Too many young heroes with too much power were using their
09:48powers irresponsibly. Of course they rebelled when they were met with the idea of forced
09:52registration, but if they were offered help and an opportunity to learn, chances are that
09:56they would have signed up willingly.
09:581. Flashpoint
09:59Barry Allen awoke in a world where he didn't have his speed, as well as Superman and the
10:04Justice League not existing. The Amazons and the armies of Atlantis were at each other's
10:08throats, and Batman was Thomas Wayne, avenging the murder of his slain son Bruce. But here,
10:13Barry's mother was alive. He found that he'd saved his mother, but doomed the rest of the world
10:18by travelling back in time. As one of the heroes that understands the complexities of time dynamics,
10:23Flash knows better than most how changing the timeline can lead to disaster. Even though Barry
10:27changed everything back, the timeline was still altered for a time by outside manipulation,
10:32and the heroes had to endure the new 52 timeline. And this change might not have been possible
10:36without Barry's initial trip. Flash had to do everything he could to thwart the schemes of Thorn.
10:42Zoom's manipulations of Barry's life, the lives of other speedsters, and the time stream as a whole
10:46are too dangerous to be left unchallenged. And the Flash is one of the few superheroes equipped to
10:51deal with Thorn. But the mistakes that Flash himself made are prime examples of the mess
10:55that Thorn can unleash if left unchecked.
10:58And there we go my friends, those were 10 times superheroes did the wrong thing for the right
11:02reason. I hope that you enjoyed that, and please let me know what you thought about it down in the
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11:17As always I've been Jules, you have been awesome, never forget that, and I'll speak to you soon. Bye.
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