00:00Simon from WhatCulture here with the one and only Enzo. How are we doing Enzo?
00:04Yeah, you wouldn't believe it, but yesterday was the best day of my life.
00:06Why so?
00:07You wouldn't believe what happened.
00:08Tell me, man.
00:09You want to know what happened?
00:09I do, yeah.
00:10I wake up today, today's better than yesterday.
00:12No, I love it. There you go, boom.
00:14Unbelievable, guys.
00:15That reminds me of a quote I had once.
00:17Like if somebody offered you $10 million, but the catch was you can't wake up tomorrow,
00:21you'd never take $10 million, because waking up is the greatest thing ever.
00:25I like that. That's true, bro.
00:26Anytime you wake up, you succeed and probably failed at the attempt to end it the night before,
00:32but I'm all right, guys. I'm here.
00:34It's a genuine pleasure to see you.
00:37What have you been up to, man?
00:38Because, I mean, you've kind of been here, there, and everywhere.
00:40How is the world of Enzo?
00:42I need the UK fans to start streaming some Real One music.
00:46R-E-A-L, number one.
00:48I got rock, too, now.
00:49Real One and the How You Doing Band.
00:51You want to hear my rap? It's Real One.
00:53You want to hear my rock? Real One and the How You Doing Band.
00:55I spent two, three years building out a music studio and recording music,
01:00creating a band, and operating a business, man.
01:04So not necessarily hitting the road every weekend,
01:06but I've been making my rounds, getting back in the ring,
01:10in an effort to encompass all these things at the same time.
01:13So I have a podcast coming out called the Realest Champs Podcast.
01:16Shout out Nori, EFN, and the Drink Champs guys for hooking me up,
01:21my first podcast deal.
01:23And I got the Gimmicks cartoon with Talkin' Shop Guys,
01:27Gallows Anderson and Rocky Romero.
01:29That's Milo Kunis' show.
01:31So Milo Kunis, thank you for letting me be a part of that.
01:35And Ashton Kutcher, you guys are awesome.
01:37It's an NFT platform.
01:39It's on a Discord.
01:39So check out therealgimmicks.com,
01:42and you can see the cartoon that is South Park meets the WWE with zero f*** given.
01:50There we go.
01:51Because we are a wrestling-based platform, though,
01:54how do you see 2022 planning out?
01:57You know, do you have any certain goals in mind?
01:59Because the industry kind of feels more open now than it has been in a while.
02:02Just remember, we know what the pencil is in wrestling, right?
02:04The guy with the pencil determines what's happening that night,
02:08who's wrestling who, and what's happening, right?
02:12Well, all pencils are number two, and I'm number one,
02:15so I never give a f*** about the pencil.
02:17But I don't control it, man.
02:18I don't have the pencil at any company or any promotion.
02:21All I can control is what I can do.
02:24And what I do right now is write.
02:26I write a lot.
02:27And everything I ever did on TV, I wrote.
02:29Unlike Dwayne Johnson, okay?
02:32That's real.
02:33That's real.
02:34That's real.
02:35But the last thing I was expecting you to say.
02:37I love it.
02:38It's the truth, man.
02:39I'm the best of all time.
02:40The boat, bro.
02:41Nobody wants to rock the boat.
02:43People are scared, I think.
02:44If I walk out there, guys, it's what I do.
02:47It's still a show.
02:48It's still a show zone.
02:49So I've been open to opportunity
02:52and haven't been reluctant to turn down great opportunities
02:55to get in the ring with great opponents.
02:58And, you know, despite any preconceived notions,
03:01I have no f***ing ego.
03:02When you're as good as I am at this s***,
03:04you don't care if you win or lose.
03:06You don't care what the f*** happens.
03:07So I lost to Jerry the King Lawler in a casket match.
03:10All right?
03:10That was great.
03:11I lost to Ricky Morton with a Canadian Destroyer.
03:15He's 65.
03:16If you've been in the business for 30, 40, 50 years, 60 maybe,
03:21I'll lay down for you.
03:22I'll lay down.
03:23I'll lay down for you as well.
03:24You can beat me.
03:25I'm nobody, but still.
03:26Look, man, I made a career.
03:28And that's why I say to f*** the pencil, right?
03:30I only worry about the pen.
03:31Everything I write is permanent.
03:33It sticks, moth***.
03:34I do have a quick question for something you just said a minute ago.
03:36You said you wrote everything that you did in WWE.
03:38Everything that was good.
03:39How did you get that sort of creative freedom?
03:41Because a lot of people say it's hard to get that.
03:43Dusty Rhodes, baby.
03:44Dusty Rhodes, thank you.
03:46Rest in peace.
03:47I love you, and I owe you everything.
03:49And I also owe Triple H a great degree of gratitude, man.
03:54Triple H and Dusty gave me a microphone,
03:57and they gave me creative liberty,
03:59and it translated from NXT directly to the main roster.
04:02Vince McMahon also gave me that creative freedom.
04:06I mean, he's a billionaire,
04:08and if he trusts you with the lifeblood of his company
04:11on the 25th anniversary of Monday Night Raw,
04:13I was supposed to be in the main event.
04:15I got a microphone.
04:16I could curse.
04:17I could say something wrong.
04:18I was on a PG product.
04:19I never cursed, never gave the middle finger,
04:23never stuck anything up anybody's candy ass,
04:26never broke out a table,
04:28because those are what I would like to call a cheap pop,
04:30and I don't drink RC Cola, okay?
04:33I earned every pop I ever got as a certified PGG, okay?
04:40I made you think I was spitting venom,
04:42but I didn't do it alone.
04:43I did it with Big Cass.
04:44I will not take all the credit.
04:46It was a magical thing being out there with him,
04:48and happy to see the big guy back out on his feet doing impact.
04:51Oh, yeah.
04:52Awesome.
04:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:53I just had a couple matches in MLW, some storytelling,
04:58and, I mean, I think people will be interested to see what I did in MLW
05:03when it airs, so I just had a couple days there that were interesting.
05:08So, as far as pro wrestling is concerned,
05:11I'm looking at 2022, as you asked, as a year of opportunity, man.
05:17So, throw it at me.
05:19You know, the only thing I take advantage of is opportunity.
05:22Not women, not nothing.
05:23Just opportunity, you know what I'm saying?
05:25And when you are writing all that stuff, where does it come from?
05:27Is it just up here?
05:28Do you write and you edit?
05:29You write and you edit?
05:30Is it just natural?
05:31I've written more pro wrestling content than any pro wrestler ever will and ever did,
05:39and no one's ever going to catch up with me.
05:41I mean, it's over.
05:42It's done.
05:43I wrote books.
05:44All right, so I need people to understand.
05:45I have a degree in writing in college, right?
05:47You got to write a 100-page thesis paper to graduate.
05:50That's 20,000 words.
05:52About 200 pages is about 20,000 words.
05:56It's like a script.
05:57And a movie is about 200 pages.
05:59I have over a million words written, hands down.
06:05Scripts, screenplays, things that I write, and eventually I'll write a book.
06:09But for now, I'll probably just talk s*** and make a podcast.
06:11Hopefully that'll pop off.
06:13It all counts, man.
06:14It all goes towards the bottom line, right?
06:15Yeah, man.
06:16No, writing is the most fundamental loss proponent in this entire business.
06:21If you're a young pro wrestler and you think for one second that Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes
06:26weren't writing s*** down, you're s***ing lying to yourself, all right?
06:30Anybody who says, oh, I went out there on the fly, yeah, I've done plenty of s*** on the fly.
06:34So I roasted every single cruiserweight in a segment that I had to pull time on a microphone
06:39because the segment before us went short.
06:42So I got extra time on mine.
06:44Well, if I got extra time and you give me a microphone, don't f***ing worry about a thing.
06:47I'll find a way to f***ing fill that void, all right?
06:50Oh, yeah, man.
06:51So I did that on the fly, right?
06:53But, man, all of that comes because I wrote so much.
06:56When you write so much, it ends up in your back pocket.
07:00And if you were a pro wrestler, here's my advice to you.
07:03Look at the roster you're on and come up with three jokes for every single person on the roster.
07:10Three.
07:11I never saw a single m****** walk through the door at NXT that I didn't have at least three jokes for.
07:17I was ready at any moment.
07:19And then when I got my moment in the main event of the Raw, Monday Night Raw, 205 Live,
07:24Cruiserweight roast that became infamous for me, that was my opportunity.
07:29I had the jokes ready.
07:30I was prepared.
07:31Smart, man.
07:32Well, fail to prepare, prepared to fail, right?
07:34I also didn't think I was a f***ing going to be a pro wrestler.
07:36I didn't think they would let me because I never had a match.
07:38I made a viral video.
07:40I got hired by WWE.
07:41So I thought I was just going to be Big Cass' manager.
07:43So I was just focusing on the promos, man.
07:46I watched a s*** ton of Bobby Heenan.
07:47I watched a lot of Charlie Chaplin.
07:50Charlie Chaplin will make you laugh and tell a story without saying a f***ing word.
07:54That's brilliant.
07:55And I watched a lot of Jim Carrey.
07:57Stole a lot of facials and mannerisms from Jim Carrey.
08:00That's really smart, though, man, right?
08:01Go to that mainstream stuff and bring it in.
08:03And the goats, man.
08:03When I watch pro wrestling, I like to watch the best that ever did it.
08:06I watch The Rock, Stone Cold, Bret Hart, f***ing Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan.
08:12The guys who were f***ing over.
08:14There's only one rule in wrestling, and it's get over.
08:17So how did you find it?
08:18You get brought in to be a manager, and then you get told, uh-uh, you're a wrestler now.
08:22How was that?
08:22I f***ing hate telling the story because I've told it so many times.
08:25Sorry, man.
08:26I apologize.
08:27It's all good.
08:27I debut in NXT to do a job.
08:29I've never had a match before in a live event.
08:31I didn't even have a name.
08:32It wasn't Enzo Amore.
08:33I had pitched it.
08:34I find out the day that I go to NXT, I'm eating a donut, that I'm going to debut against Mason Ryan to make him look good.
08:41All the boys knew I was lights out in promos, so all the boys stood up and cheered for me in the back when I debuted, you know?
08:49Like, yeah, Enzo's getting a mic.
08:51John Cena was backstage.
08:53John Cena was booked to keep the house in the dark segment because we just became NXT.
08:58We were FCW.
08:58So we had to book main event talent for the dark segment to keep the people.
09:04Well, Cena stands up and goes, bada-boom, reel this guy in a room after he repeats what I said.
09:09I don't know this.
09:10I'm in the ring.
09:11I get out.
09:12John Cena asks me to go out to the ring with him when the show's over.
09:15I'm so green, I don't realize that I just booked my own tag team.
09:21I told John Cena Big Cass was my tag team partner, right?
09:25Big Cass was not my tag team partner.
09:27Next thing we know, we're in Gorilla and Triple H and Bill D'Amato looking at us like, what the fuck?
09:32John Cena's like, yeah, these guys are coming out with me in the dark segment.
09:35We're like, we're out there.
09:38I said soft.
09:41Well, Damien Sando is out there.
09:43He's the intellectual savior of the masses.
09:44I remember Damien Sando, absolutely.
09:46Smart guy, right?
09:47How many dimples are on a golf ball?
09:48You're so smart.
09:50168 dimples on a golf ball.
09:51You know how many dimples are on my hind end?
09:53Zero.
09:53Want to know why?
09:54Because you're SAWFT soft.
09:56That's where that came from.
09:57Big Cass, you're seven foot tall.
09:59You can't teach that, Sandow.
10:00Not at any institution.
10:01I'm a certified G-bone if I say you can't teach that.
10:04These organic things like the Austin 316 playing off Jake with the Bible.
10:08I was playing off Sandow.
10:09That's how we got our gimmick, right?
10:13John Cena repeats when I said soft.
10:15The whole crowd starts saying it.
10:17I'm not booked on live events for four more weeks.
10:19Neither is Cass.
10:20We show up to NXT TV.
10:22Ryback's feuding with Cena.
10:23Ryback's in the dark.
10:24They say Enzo and Cass about five minutes before Ryback's about to hit the ring.
10:29Enzo and Cass, put your gear on.
10:30You're going out.
10:31Hey, ladies, you're into Meathead.
10:33You got a real cheap date in the ring right there.
10:35All you got to do is take them to the local Golden Corral.
10:37And then we just named everything at the buffet.
10:40And we said, how you doing in between it?
10:42We got how you doing in soft off.
10:43And you can't teach that in the first two promos in dark segments that was never seen.
10:48So, you're in the UK, right?
10:49Yeah.
10:50We come to the UK for the first time.
10:52I don't even realize that you guys know who I am.
10:54Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:55Mind-blowing.
10:56That little Orlando crowd, the greatest crowd ever.
10:58Thank you for everything.
11:00Those people made me look like a star with saying my shit.
11:04Yeah.
11:04To a point where when I went to the UK, you guys knew it.
11:06I came down the ring and everybody was saying it with me.
11:09I was like, holy f**k.
11:12We love that stuff, man.
11:13We were just riding the roller coaster, bro.
11:15And nobody had more fun than me and Cass.
11:19Out of the ring, in the ring, backstage with women.
11:24It was a great time to be Enzo and Cass.
11:26But now we've calmed down.
11:28We've got girls.
11:30It's life, man.
11:31It's life.
11:31It's a process.
11:32It's all good.
11:33Enzo, I can't top that.
11:34Thank you very much, my friend.
11:35I know you can't.
11:36I'm the best.
11:37Best of all time.
11:38Ride the boat, baby.
11:39How you doing?
11:40Done.
11:41Like, share, subscribe.
11:42See ya.
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