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The Stars of Goodbye June talk Family, Death and Christmas
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Kate Winslet produces, leads and directs an all-star cast in this new festive tearjerker. Report by Nelsonj. Like us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/itn and follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/itn
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00:00
Kate Woods does have kind of mother hen energy.
00:03
Is that a thing?
00:03
Yeah, she actually really does.
00:05
And I read it and of course immediately just wanted to be saying all those lines.
00:09
I had the audacity not to peg it, but I was young, thank goodness.
00:13
Kate, thank you for two hours of cathartic sobbing.
00:16
I probably could have used it.
00:20
Can we start quickly and talk about your daughter for a second now?
00:23
Because I...
00:24
Who's not in this film.
00:25
Who's not in this film, no.
00:26
But I saw her in The Phoenician Scheme and she's absolutely brilliant in that.
00:30
Yeah, she is amazing.
00:30
And then I interviewed her afterwards and she was so kind of like effervescent and full of life.
00:36
And I left like feeling like kind of you're walking on air.
00:38
And it's a similar feeling to what I got like a decade ago when I met you.
00:42
We are quite similar.
00:43
I mean, I think as a family, we do have a tendency to be pretty good life livers and be grateful
00:50
and approach everything with kindness and positivity.
00:54
It's part of how we've parented the kids actually.
00:58
You must be having the time of your life at the moment then, because then another prodigy
01:03
steps up.
01:05
In a way, you're sunsetting the screenplay of this, not only something that you've deemed
01:08
fit to kind of have your directorial debut, but also like a bunch of powerhouse performers
01:13
have seen fit to kind of breathe life into.
01:15
Like, how does this year, what's happening with these two, not kids, but these two children
01:22
of yours, compared to the other successes you've had in your career?
01:25
You must be like...
01:25
Oh, it's so...
01:26
It's...
01:26
I mean, I just...
01:27
Well, first of all, you know, I didn't expect to work with my son in this capacity.
01:33
It doesn't surprise me that he has also ended up going into the industry, because he's also
01:38
an actor as well.
01:40
It actually doesn't surprise me.
01:43
But I think watching him grow and change as a young screenwriter, who was terrified, who
01:51
thought he'd, you know, he'd gotten a place in screenwriting school and then brilliant
01:55
national film and television school here in London.
01:57
He did this intense six-month course, during which time he was encouraged by a fantastic
02:02
tutor, write what you know right from the heart.
02:05
And he's like staring at a class full of people who are much, much older than him, thinking,
02:09
what the hell am I doing here?
02:10
And that alone was really brave, you know, going back to school in a way, having always
02:16
written, always loved it, and been very passionate about it.
02:19
It's a big part of his creativity.
02:20
That doesn't necessarily translate into being able to actually write a screenplay.
02:23
I found it quite a difficult watch, because I'm at an age now where I've, like,
02:27
lost my grandparents, so I've kind of been through those experiences in hospitals.
02:31
My parents are getting older, my mum sadly suffers from MS, and you start to realise
02:35
how kind of precious those little, the moments that you have together at times, like Christmas,
02:39
when you're living away and you don't often actually get to reconnect.
02:42
Yeah.
02:42
But what is it about family, death and Christmas that just sticks the knife in, do you think?
02:48
Because they're all such, like, charged concepts as they are.
02:53
Well, they're about entrapment.
02:54
You can't run away from it.
02:56
You can't run away from Christmas unless you hide, or go somewhere east, you know?
03:00
But that's what it is.
03:02
It's a double entrapment.
03:03
You've got a death you've got to face, and you've got the bringing together of Christmas,
03:06
which is a thing that wraps it all around it.
03:08
So there's no way you're going to avoid people you've managed to avoid, even if you love them
03:12
for a long time.
03:13
You start with it.
03:14
You share blood.
03:15
You actually can't.
03:16
You can run, but you can't hide.
03:17
I mean, I think Christmas, because, I mean, Joe setting the film at Christmas, I thought
03:22
it was just such a stroke of genius, not least because it meant that we had this in-built clock ticking, you know,
03:29
as you creep closer to that big day, which everyone can relate to, but also for the family,
03:34
they're desperately trying to get to that big day so that they can give their mother this one last Christmas.
03:38
And I think, you know, I mean, Christmas is a very heightened emotional time for so many people, isn't it?
03:43
You know, it can be wonderful.
03:45
It can be really challenging, and it sort of changes all the time.
03:48
I think especially as you grow up and siblings, you know, you have your own families and you go off
03:53
and live in different countries and so on, you're absolutely right.
03:55
Like, sometimes Christmas is that one time of year when you might all see each other.
03:59
And so I think it's just a very relatable scenario for audiences, this theme, this backdrop of Christmas,
04:06
and the sort of the environment that sort of thrusts us all into, it feels quite appropriately intense.
04:14
It was such a pleasure, like, verging on magical, it was just one of the best jobs ever.
04:19
Totally, I can't come with one of the most satisfying professional experiences of my life.
04:24
For me too.
04:26
Precious, a precious experience.
04:27
And Kate would just have kind of mother hen energy, is that a thing?
04:31
Yeah, she actually really does.
04:32
I think, like, generally, like, what was that kind of situation?
04:35
You guys have obviously got a bit of a partnership, you worked together twice very recently,
04:39
you guys have worked together before as well, like, what was that kind of vibe on set?
04:43
How was her role with the exec producer, with the director, with the co-performer?
04:48
She was just always very present, no matter which hat she was wearing.
04:51
And very natural, it's not like, there wasn't like, it's no sort of switching.
04:55
It's just an organic.
04:55
She's just always been able to hold many things at one time.
05:00
She's a brilliant leader, but she's also very kind and caring and generous.
05:06
Yeah, and she's absolutely covered every area.
05:09
She knows exactly, because she's so experienced and so brilliant anyway,
05:12
but she knows what's going on in every department.
05:15
She knows, not just, you know, in front of the camera, which she's brilliant at,
05:19
because she's a great actress and she knows what actors require,
05:22
but she knows what everybody, because of their experience,
05:25
and because of her kindness and her brilliance and her intelligence,
05:28
she knows how to make it all come together.
05:31
It's just great directing, you know, without even pointing to the camera.
05:33
He had written something that was, first of all, the dialogue.
05:38
So for me as an actor, reading it, you know, he hands it to me,
05:40
he's like, oh, I've written this thing, it's probably not very good,
05:42
you know, mum, will you read it?
05:44
And I read it, and of course, immediately just wanted to be saying all those lines,
05:48
because it was, his knack for dialogue is so sharp, very, very natural.
05:54
I thought, oh my god, these are people, these are, this is sort of everyone we know.
05:58
I mean, it really felt like all of my friends, lots of his friends,
06:01
like we have a huge family on my side and also on his dad's side.
06:06
There's tons and tons and tons of relatives.
06:08
And so actually it just felt extremely relatable.
06:11
But to be able to write a story that is, yes, about loss,
06:15
but is much more about family and life and love,
06:19
and to inject it with so much humour as well,
06:23
and it's touching, and it pulls you in,
06:26
you know, that sort of, that sleight of hand
06:29
and how he grew and learnt and took feedback and notes
06:34
and changed things over the development process.
06:36
It was absolutely amazing. I loved all of it.
06:38
I just wanted to say before I go, like,
06:39
Timothy, I know you've spoken about,
06:41
I think you had leukaemia in the 90s.
06:45
Did that give you a different perspective?
06:46
That wasn't much fun.
06:47
I bet. I imagine that gave you a different perspective
06:50
on this kind of story.
06:52
Well, I had a peek over the precipice, you know,
06:55
and I know that's why a lot of this is accurate,
06:57
because I had a young family, and I didn't.
07:00
I had the audacity not to peg it.
07:02
But I was young, thank goodness,
07:04
and I had a lot of responsibility.
07:05
So I understand it. I don't know what that's like.
07:08
The pain of people losing you,
07:10
that was the painful thing.
07:12
But that's why I know this film is accurate.
07:14
But the great thing is that life goes on, you know,
07:17
and the petty things in life, you know, when you're not ill.
07:20
If you're in a state of profundity,
07:22
then there's something wrong with you.
07:23
If you're actually going, oh, shit, that's annoying,
07:26
then you're all right.
07:27
So there's a double thing to play, you know,
07:30
and this covers all of that.
07:31
It's profound, but people,
07:32
she's trying to get people being petty.
07:35
A dying woman's orchestrating a bunch of dysfunctional kids
07:38
to come and love each other properly.
07:40
Well, I thought it was a great piece of work.
07:42
At my age now with, like, losing grandparents,
07:45
parents getting older and, like, being a dad and stuff,
07:48
it kind of, it felt like those kind of universal themes
07:51
really got the knife under the ribcage kind of thing,
07:54
which I thought is testament to the directing,
07:57
testament to the script,
07:57
and testament to you guys for being a great cast together.
08:00
So congratulations.
08:01
Hope you all have lovely Christmases
08:02
with absolutely no death at all.
08:04
I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys do next.
08:13
Here for the dynasty, the Winterslet dynasty.
08:17
Oh, my God, I don't think we see ourselves like that at all.
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