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00:00Mike, I guess congratulations first of all. And what does this mean in real terms? What can you
00:06now do if you get full approval? Thanks, Matt. Thanks for having me. Actually,
00:12slightly breaking news. It's no longer conditional. It's actually fully approved as of
00:16now. We met the conditions just about an hour ago. But what this means, look,
00:20Bicco has been operating as a digital asset infrastructure custodian provider for the last
00:26decade. We've been doing it through a number of regulatory licenses, previously state chartered,
00:30both in South Dakota and New York. Now we're upgrading that to an OCC, a nationally chartered
00:35bank. So it's a big upgrade. It means that everybody in the industry knows that you can
00:40count on the Bicco regulatory stance to service pretty much any need. Like what? I mean, what
00:47are you going to be able to do and how does this cross through crypto to fiat? Sure. Well, look,
00:54as a national bank, we now preempt the state's licensing. So instead of having to have these
01:00multiple licenses across multiple states, we have it at the federal level. Additionally,
01:03you know, for the last couple of decades, people have wondered when it came to federally chartered
01:08things like, you know, FINRA registrations, SEC, et cetera, do you need to use a nationally
01:12chartered bank or is a state chartered bank sufficient? This takes that away. This is the highest
01:17level of regulatory oversight you can have. So it's really positive for us. But maybe more
01:22importantly, like what is this for the industry? You know, for the last four years, at least,
01:28we've been facing kind of a regulatory uncertainty. This has marked the end of that regulatory
01:33uncertainty. You might have seen, you know, in addition to Bicco, several other companies
01:37are also converting into OCC chartered banks. So now we can enter into the innovation phase
01:43and really take digital assets as a first class asset into the financial system.
01:49You've already seen pretty incredible growth, Mike. I mean, I read that you had $4.2 billion
01:56in revenue during the first six months of 2025, which is almost quadruple what you had in the
02:01year before. So what kind of growth do you see ahead with this?
02:06I'm not supposed to talk about financial numbers because we've got, you know,
02:09public company plans. So you can read our S1 statements and you can see that kind of thing.
02:13But look, overall, the climate for digital assets is very strong. In 2025, we really saw a turnaround
02:21as all of a sudden everybody can participate in this asset class. So we expect continued growth.
02:27Obviously, there's growth on, you know, money coming in. So you've got custody and kind of the
02:31basic wallet services. But on top of that, trading volumes are growing. And the plumbing is being built
02:36to connect these markets, not just inside of the crypto native components, but also over the
02:41traditional finance. So the ETFs had a big boom last year, you know, January 2024, finally approved
02:47after so many failed ETF attempts for Bitcoin. This year, of course, we've had BlackRock's ETF be the
02:55fastest growing and now the largest digital ETF that they've had. So anyway, we've seen tremendous
03:02growth. We expect that to continue well into 2026. In terms of your IPO plans, I was thinking that you
03:08would go public this year, it looks like we're running out of time. Have you had to move your
03:13schedule a little bit?
03:14Well, as you know, the government was shut down for a little while. So obviously, that impacted
03:19everybody that was in that process. Can't quite comment on it. But, you know, still underway.
03:24Well, do we know the ballpark? Like, are you going to go public in Q1?
03:30I'm not sure if I'm supposed to say that or not. Look, we're working on it. We want to get out there
03:35as a public company. The reason for doing that is because, look, we've always been about transparency
03:40and trust. And, you know, in the early days, it was like, what's this technology that BitGo's
03:44developed and pioneered? And then later, it was like, who is the company run by? What's the balance
03:49sheet look like? What are the SOC audits? What's the insurance look like? All of these are ways to
03:54prove to folks that we are worthy of servicing their financial assets. So, look, being a public
03:59company gives us another level of transparency, allows people to scrutinize our business. We want that.
04:04We welcome that. It's really just part of making sure that we're doing everything we can
04:08to be the most transparent provider we can.
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