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Twisted Sisters Madness & Manslaughter Season 1 Episode 1

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00:003-3, go ahead.
00:09They are now on our shoulder on the northbound, but the collision itself took place in lane 3 at the southbound, however.
00:18So they were trying to get back across the carriageway and they'd been struck, is that right?
00:22Well, they were walking up and trying to size them away, it is on CCTV, recording us.
00:27Yeah, I see.
00:30And in League 2, it's crunch time in the playoff semi-finals.
00:35Stockport County hosts Wicket Wanderers in the second leg later today.
00:41I had driven down to Birmingham to collect my daughter from university.
00:46We were on our way north to come home when the incident happened.
00:54I was travelling up to the game with my dad and my best friend and one of the coaches.
00:57We can see all the traffic building up in front of us.
01:01This didn't feel like an insignificant situation.
01:04We saw a traffic officer's vehicle parked on the left.
01:10We could never have imagined what was about to happen.
01:15The red one's got knocked down by the red car over there.
01:20I've got an ambulance en route for her.
01:22She seems all right, but I'm not a doctor.
01:25She has been knocked down.
01:26Is she the one that speaks English or the other one?
01:28Yes.
01:28The other one, she's going to run it.
01:30Oh, no!
01:31Shit!
01:34Oh, Jesus!
01:36Mike Alpha, Mike Alpha, we need ambulance.
01:39Senior officers to the scene.
01:40We've got two possible faithfuls.
01:42All right, Susan.
01:43Two, eight, seven, thank you.
01:45Three, two, we do good.
01:46I'll see you on the left.
01:46Stay where you are, my love.
01:48Stay where you are.
01:49Stay where you are.
01:52Stay there.
01:53Stay there.
01:54Stay there.
01:55Stay there.
01:55What started as a horrific suicide attempt
02:01of the twin sisters on the M6
02:04then led to the brutal stabbing of an innocent man
02:10a few days later.
02:13It was truly shocking.
02:1817 years on,
02:20we don't know exactly what motivated them on that day.
02:25What on earth
02:26had caused this
02:28to transpire?
02:51Sierra, Papa, two, one.
02:53Go ahead.
02:53Cat one.
02:55Immediate response required.
02:57Report of a stabbing.
02:58Male victim.
02:59Mid-fisties.
03:00Bleeding heavily.
03:02Suspect last seen heading westbound on foot.
03:04Described as female, white, late 30s, green jacket.
03:08Ambulance en route.
03:09Over.
03:10Sierra control received.
03:12En route.
03:13ETA five minutes.
03:14Over.
03:15Over.
03:15It was in the back alley at the back of Duke Street.
03:24They'd actually put up the blue police tape as a cordon.
03:29As I approached the scene,
03:31one of the police officers waved me down
03:34and advised me to stop.
03:36I was told that life was extinct.
03:38It was very chilling, shocking,
03:41the whole sequence of events leading up to this, really.
03:52Sabina and Ersela were born in Sweden,
03:54in Varmland County,
03:58near the border of Norway.
04:00We know that Sabina Ericsson
04:03was living in Cork, in Ireland,
04:05with her partner and their two sons.
04:10Ersela was living in America.
04:19Ersela arrives from the United States
04:23in a surprise visit to see Sabina.
04:27At around two in the morning,
04:29without saying goodbye to Sabina's partner or children,
04:31the twins left Sabina's family home and travelled north.
04:35They boarded a ferry from Dublin to Liverpool.
04:49From Liverpool, they then boarded a coach
04:52which was en route to London via the M6 South.
05:00We don't know what motivated that.
05:03The twins were holding their bags quite close to them
05:09and acting strangely on the bus.
05:12The driver was alarmed by their behaviour.
05:18About an hour into the journey,
05:20the coach stopped at Cale Services
05:23in an unscheduled break.
05:25For reasons that are unclear,
05:31the twins disembark and refuse to get on the coach.
05:34So the coach eventually continues its journey to London,
05:38leaving Sabina and Ersela behind.
05:40Once they were at Cale Services,
05:53they were seen by other members of the public
05:57acting erratically, wandering around, looking lost.
06:01The police did attend the scene,
06:06spoke to the Ericsson twins.
06:08They hadn't committed a crime,
06:10so the police left them on their way.
06:16Sabina and Ersela don't bring a taxi.
06:19Don't look for alternative transport.
06:22Instead, they start heading towards the M6 motorway on foot.
06:263-3, go ahead.
06:47The driver of the vehicle sounds bad.
06:50It's been told to remain in situ.
06:51It appears that it's two Swedish females
06:56southbound that were walking
06:58on the central reservation of the motorway.
07:01One of them appeared to have tried to cross the motorway
07:04and then been hit by a vehicle.
07:06So we've got a vehicle that's been damaged on the southbound
07:08and we've got casualties on the northbound.
07:11Give me a little estimate now of...
07:14Er, we're going to be about two minutes away.
07:16I'm David Ray, and I was the person behind the camera
07:25on motorway cops.
07:28You spend a 12-hour shift
07:31sat in the back of a police car.
07:35Mostly, it's actually quite routine,
07:39but you've got no idea what you're going to come up against.
07:43Yeah, they're out there.
07:52Hiya.
07:53Hiya.
07:56Right.
07:57What we've got is they were in the central res.
08:00Why?
08:01Do we know?
08:01Exactly.
08:02Are they speaking English?
08:03Speak one speaks English, are you?
08:05The one in the res.
08:07Yeah.
08:07We had a block coming up.
08:09Right.
08:09Because we knew they were on camera.
08:11A full closure?
08:12It's on camera.
08:13Full closure northbound.
08:14Yeah.
08:15They were trying to cross the Bravo.
08:17So as we approached,
08:18they hadn't seen us now then,
08:20the red one's got knocked down
08:22by the red car over there.
08:24Got an ambulance en route for her.
08:26She seems all right,
08:27but I'm not a doctor.
08:29She has been knocked down.
08:30Is she the one that speaks English,
08:32or the other one?
08:32Yes.
08:33The other one.
08:33She's the one that's...
08:34Oh, no!
08:35Shit!
08:38Oh, Jesus!
08:40Mike Alpha, Mike Alpha,
08:42we need ambulance,
08:43senior officers to the scene.
08:44We've got two possible fatals.
08:49Oh, we see you, thanks.
08:51Stay there.
08:51Shh, it's okay.
08:53It's just like, um...
08:54See you're breathing.
08:55Okay.
08:57Stay there, stay there.
08:58Who's my sister?
08:59Come on, it's okay.
09:00Where's my sister?
09:02It's okay, she's being looked after
09:03by the other police.
09:04Keep your head still for me.
09:05Keep your head still.
09:07Shh.
09:08I don't know what I saw.
09:09I just saw this woman exiting frame.
09:13Oscar Tanger 33,
09:14we're going to need air arms.
09:17Why were you running, my love?
09:19Without any warning whatsoever,
09:21the first one just ran
09:22straight under the wheels of the HGV.
09:25To sort of compound in the second woman
09:28was then immediately hit by a car.
09:29The initial reaction is amazement.
09:32You can't believe that two people
09:34have just done that in front of you.
09:37For a few seconds,
09:38you don't know what to do.
09:40It's just shock.
09:42And then the adrenaline kicks in.
09:45You've got to do a job
09:46and you've got to cover this.
09:47She ran in front of me.
09:50And I avoided her with wagging him.
09:53And I clipped her with trailer life.
09:55First female has been hit by a HGV
09:58and serious injury.
09:59Second female has been hit
10:01by a small vehicle in lane one.
10:03We saw ambulances rush past us,
10:06screeching down the motorway,
10:07blue lights on.
10:09It all happened in a flash.
10:11She ran in front of the woman driving the polo,
10:19thrown up into the air
10:20and completely squashed the roof of her car.
10:25And there was nothing that that woman could have done
10:27to have avoided her.
10:29Sabina, is it?
10:35Sabina?
10:36In all my career,
10:37I've never filmed anything like this before.
10:39And either before or after.
10:42No, come on, my love.
10:43Come on, you've hit your head.
10:44Calm down.
10:45Calm down.
10:46She appears very disorientated.
10:50I didn't really know what was going on,
10:53to be honest.
10:54But we could certainly never, ever have imagined
10:57what was about to unfold.
10:59Calm down.
10:59I'm going to drop it off.
11:00I'm going to run for you.
11:01Bitch, ass.
11:02Calm down.
11:03I'm going to harm you.
11:20Oh, I recognise you.
11:22I know you're not real.
11:22Stay still for me.
11:23Stay still, because you're hurt.
11:25Come on, calm down.
11:26Fuck you.
11:26They're all something.
11:28I'm going to leave my head.
11:28What's happening in terms of ambulances?
11:30Ambulances are all on route.
11:32We've got helicopters on route.
11:33We're asking for additional patrols.
11:34Please help me!
11:36My name's Dr. Latif Hussain,
11:38and on the 17th May 2008, I got a text message on my phone advising me that there'd been an incident
11:45on the M6.
11:51When you're driving to the incident, your adrenaline is rushing and you're trying to think of all
11:57the scenarios, the only information that I'd received, the only information that I'd received was that there were some pedestrians that'd been knocked down.
12:03No, no, stay still.
12:04No, no, stay still.
12:05Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
12:06You're not done.
12:07Shh.
12:08You're hurt.
12:09Fucking asshole.
12:10Calm down.
12:10Keep it up.
12:11Calm down.
12:12I did think she was being unnecessarily aggressive.
12:18Fuck you, asshole.
12:18She's just behind you.
12:19She's just behind you.
12:20Fuck you.
12:21The police officers were there to help, and she didn't seem to recognise that.
12:25So I'm wondering what's going on in her head.
12:28Are you going to steal my fucking organs, you bitch?
12:31It's going to happen to you too.
12:32Oscar Tango 3-3.
12:33No, it's going to happen to you too.
12:36I don't know how she gets it into her head that anybody is going to steal her organs.
12:42Is she high on drugs?
12:45Is she delusional?
12:47Was this some kind of suicide pact?
12:51Tango 1-1.
12:52What a car, sir.
12:53It's a fucking pathetic.
12:54Come on, Canada.
12:55It's far not.
12:57I arrived on scene.
12:58I was made aware that one of the casualties had been hit by a car, but pedestrian versus
13:03a HGV is not very good, and nine times out of ten, when you look at the speed involved,
13:09you'd expect that to be a fatality, really.
13:12Calvus, Tango 3-2.
13:14And so my focus was directed towards that casualty.
13:19It's in.
13:19Tango 1-1.
13:20Tango 1-1.
13:22Relax your arms now.
13:23Relax your arms now.
13:23Relax your arms now.
13:23Relax your arms now.
13:26Both the young females have got potentially serious injuries in view of the actual mechanism
13:30of the accident.
13:31They've ran out onto the motorway, been hit by one vehicle and clipped another vehicle.
13:37One of the young females has got quite nasty leg injuries.
13:41There was a lot of blood and damage to the skin, to the bones, but despite that, I was very
13:51surprised that she was actually conscious.
13:53Under the circumstances, I found, you know, really quite bizarre that this individual had
13:57got certainly limb-threatening, potentially life-threatening injuries, but she was very agitated, kicking, screaming, shouting.
14:04I'm going to stop that heart.
14:06I'm going to make sure the organs won't work.
14:09She was behaving bizarrely.
14:12On reflection, afterward, it was quite strange.
14:15Shh, shh, shh.
14:16Shh, shh.
14:17Just relax.
14:18Oh, I know that, my love.
14:19Yeah, Mike Alfa.
14:20I've got one unconscious casualty.
14:22Mine's very aggressive, spitting at me.
14:24She is very badly injured.
14:26I don't know what's going on.
14:27Words started to get round so that they had been pedestrians on the motorway.
14:31It was definitely anger as we approached kickoff time.
14:35We decided to have the game playing on the radio.
14:38I was focused very much on a woman who'd just been hit by the polo.
14:44We actually thought that she was dead.
14:49Where are you living at the moment?
14:51Have you got an address in the UK?
14:54She was just not moving at all.
14:57It was very difficult to see that, but that's what we thought had happened.
15:01We thought she was dead.
15:03Our plans are, at the moment, we need to do some seating inquiries.
15:06We're going to try and get you guys out of here as quick as possible,
15:09because this is going to be closed for some time now.
15:11We sat in the car for probably 10, 15 minutes.
15:16And then the next thing was, she stood up.
15:21Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
15:24Stay, stay, stay.
15:26I couldn't believe it, because I thought, surely she must have serious injuries.
15:31But she seemed absolutely fine.
15:36Right, don't get going anywhere, okay? Just chill, chill, okay?
15:40Just try to relax, just lie down again.
15:42Don't have the right to it.
15:44I was amazed that Sabina was alive, because it should have been a fatal.
15:52It was just incredible.
15:54Where's Paul? Oh, shit, where's Paul?
15:57Right, stay with me, okay? Stay with me.
16:00All right? Okay? Stay.
16:03Where's Paul? Stay.
16:06Why do you kill me? Stay still.
16:09Why do you kill me?
16:14Fucking hell!
16:15No! No!
16:18She just punched the officer.
16:20She then ran over onto the southbound carriageway.
16:25Mike Alpha 33, get us a closure on the southbound.
16:29What on earth are you doing? Oh, my God.
16:31We're going to have another incident on the opposite carriageway.
16:34Stay! Stay there. Calm down, calm down, calm down.
16:37And it was unclear to me whether she was actually trying to get away
16:42or whether she was making another attempt to be run over.
16:48Calm down.
16:49Yeah, she's on the southbound now.
16:51Calm down.
16:52Calm down.
16:53Calm down.
16:54Three, three, I've got a female fight.
16:57Calm down.
16:58To me, that wasn't really human.
17:01You don't get run over by a car doing 60, 70 on the motorway,
17:06and then by another car thrown into the air,
17:11falling unconscious for ten minutes,
17:13and then go running over to try and do it again?
17:17That doesn't seem normal.
17:19Relax.
17:20Calm down.
17:21They're high on something.
17:22Chill.
17:23Calm down.
17:24I didn't really know why she was doing this.
17:31One of the police officers had subsequently suggested to me
17:34that she might be on drugs.
17:36Police.
17:37Grab her.
17:38Grab her.
17:39Grab her.
17:40You got her?
17:41Yeah.
17:42Got handcuffs.
17:43Handcuffs.
17:45And so we ran over.
17:47It was quite clear that they needed help.
17:49We're going to have to get her back home.
17:50We should do it, mate.
17:51She'll do it.
17:52No, not yet.
17:53We may do it in a minute.
17:54Just bear with us.
17:55Just secure her first.
17:56No.
17:57Ma'am, Ma'am.
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18:48waving us around like ragdolls on her arms okay well we get it down get down we get handcuffed
18:54from behind it's all this what's your arm what's your arm what's your arm we are the police
19:02the overriding impression that i had was that she had superhuman strength
19:09I just didn't know where she was getting that strength from she'd been hit by two motor vehicles
19:23being unconscious for 10 minutes punched an officer with incredible force it just seemed to
19:31me incredible that that this woman had so much strength she got up off the floor tried to grab
19:46a restrainer try to use his car she turned around twatted me i slipped it was never a dull moment
19:51as a pedestrian on the motorway she commits an offence keep on a side because of her chest
19:55bring her legs off certainly by getting up and punching me she's assaulted me both of those
20:00or offences for which he can be arrested for get moving you can get gone come on please
20:08we don't want any more possibly about 10 000 people in about 10 to 15 miles of tailback at the moment
20:17obviously we're trying to get them out as quick as possible protecting the scene
20:21i don't know where they've got no i'm not bothered about yeah but i wonder i mean they got
20:29crates lager on the bus and crap like that you do get them gone really highways are gonna hopefully
20:34treat that as pirating
20:37these buses have got football fans who could have been drinking
20:41if they start spilling out onto the motorway it could add even more chaos to a chaotic scene
20:50the 17 year old back then i do remember thinking because that this was purely a selfish act
20:58obviously there's hundreds of people if not thousands stuck in this traffic jam
21:02why would someone take this decision to ruin everyone else's day run in front of the traffic
21:10frustration and anger is definitely building at this point
21:12we'll make a decision on air ambulance because we'll have to land that there
21:17right martin for the closure of a few hundred yards back clearing these so that air one can land here
21:22in the sterile at this stage they're not happy to put them in helicopters
21:25but she's unless they rapidly calm down
21:39because that second woman is being restrained there's nothing more to be done with her from
21:45from a filming point of view so then i realized that i need to catch the helicopter arriving because
21:51that's a significant moment
21:58so i'm darren lapping a paramedic i was working on the air ambulance and we were called to an incident on the m6
22:08i can quite clearly remember the traffic must have been nearly a ten mile
22:20tailback on the motorway but we got an idea that there was obviously two casualties separated by
22:27sort of 20 meters or so so one was about to be loaded into the back of the the land ambulance
22:37and then to the girl that was shouting a little bit and i do recall as i approached she did spit
22:44sort of some light reddy colour basically the decision was made to sedate her
22:51at the moment both are being treated as life threatening injuries the lady who was behind me was run over by a 44 ton lorry
23:00three rear wheels axle wheels have run over the top of her
23:03so the bones themselves you could see the tissue had been torn away from it the bone itself was snapped
23:10completely in half and you could see the underlying tissue and muscle
23:15i've been to cases where unfortunately they have not survived they've literally gone with the lorry
23:21got onto the drive prop shaft and literally being torn to bits so she was very lucky
23:28the fact that the weight of a lorry that it hadn't crushed her internal organs her head or anything
23:38that it only caught her legs was in a way it was almost a miracle in itself
23:44to have the kind of aggression combativeness it does occur quite a lot with head injuries so that was my initial thought
23:55i'm then considering why as she ran onto the motorway and as she now under the influence of alcohol but also as she taken some form of drug
24:04and then the final thing i'm considering is is this potentially some sort of mental health illness
24:10we decided she didn't have mental capacity that was one of the reasons why we decided sedate her
24:16there's always a risk when you're actually giving drugs to individuals especially if you don't know what the the history or the back
24:24or whether they have taken other drugs or substances you have to really weigh up the benefits against a potential risk
24:33to be honest one of the isu's guys said they're on a coach very protective of the bags and wouldn't let the coach
24:39drive put them down below and he says with the way they're acting could they be muley
24:43which to be honest not a bad consideration is it no you're right
24:53i thought they were probably on something but the if they were drug mules it doesn't
24:58why did they get off the bus at keel services and then why did they walk along the central reservation
25:04it doesn't make any sense that they were drug mules because they were going to get picked up and then they
25:10could have get they could have got checked out
25:17the lady with the more serious injuries was transferred to the air ambulance and was transported to the emergency department
25:24at royal stoke university hospital
25:31the other lady who was hit by the car she was transported via land ambulance to the emergency department at royal stoke university hospital
25:41from the behavior of this individual there were concerns about her mental health but nobody really could have predicted you know what transpired after this
25:53my name is paul holinsett
26:21in 2008 i was working at the royal infirmary in stoke in the anne department we got everything under the sun coming through
26:32some of the nursing staff told me that they'd had two swedish women in the department
26:39one got hit by a lorry and the other one got hit by a car
26:45some people come in and they are abusive but you try and help them they don't want it and in particular one was causing so much trouble
27:00refusing treatment
27:02refusing treatment screaming shouting
27:04the other one had been severely hurt and was going for an operation and then transferred to a ward
27:13the doctor was so fed up of her behaviour causing Mary hell that he said i want her out of here
27:28they had to ask the police to remove her
27:35so don't worry about my safety i'll be all right
27:39yeah i think she's calmed down now
27:41two on air at the hospital
27:44for me as a documentary film maker i still felt that i had to follow this story
27:54i was aware that the second woman had been taken into hospital and checked and was apparently okay
28:03so then she was going to be taken to the police station where she was going to be charged
28:11normally if you come in and you've got a head injury especially if you've been knocked unconscious and you've been knocked down by a car
28:21you have a period where you have to be observed
28:24and i thought there was a 72 hour time for observing people
28:29because you don't know what's going to evolve from that injury
28:35so i was quite surprised when she was removed
28:40well we made okay money here
28:45sabrina come and sit in the car
28:51yeah yeah
28:53sabrina
28:58when the woman emerged from the hospital and got in the car
29:03it was clear she'd been discharged from the hospital with only minor injuries
29:09which was amazing really considering that she'd bounced off the windscreen of a volkswagen polo
29:16sorry
29:18sorry
29:19custody
29:20hello there it's pc elliott from central motorway police
29:23all right
29:24we're bringing a lady in from an incident on the motorway earlier this afternoon
29:28she's a swedish national but she speaks very good english
29:33when you open the newspaper here you feel yes like you don't know if you should laugh or cry for them or pray for them
29:41when you open the paper you laugh
29:44it was strange being in the back of the car she wasn't bothered about me filming anymore
29:53whereas she previously on the motorway she was saying why are you filming why are you filming
29:57and so she was different
29:59and so she was different
30:00sabrina you no broken bones
30:04yeah i'm fine i think you're gonna be
30:06a little
30:07yeah concerning all these uh
30:09you're gonna be very bruised and sore
30:11that's all right that's all right you know i'm a licensed boxer actually
30:15are you
30:16yes i am
30:17i'm used with that even if it i'm out of shape now really
30:20so what what are you doing over in ireland then
30:24huh
30:25what job are you doing over in ireland
30:27oh i just find found a crappy job you know in the start-up you know
30:32yeah
30:33she was quite chatty and friendly
30:36her demeanor was totally different than it had been on the motorway
30:40and it was difficult to believe really
30:43hi police off the motorway
30:46when she was in the station
31:01although she appeared to be normal
31:04there was something a little bit odd about her
31:07but it's not something i could put my finger on
31:09we have to wait
31:11not at the moment
31:14have a seat because we can't do anything until we get in there
31:21how old you are
31:22yeah
31:23guys are difficult
31:27you're looking at how many wrinkles are you
31:29yes of course
31:32with her it would clearly work to be gentle with her
31:35to be if you like to flirt with her
31:37how old am i
31:38i probably live around in his best age
31:40yeah 45
31:42oh yeah
31:4344
31:44you got it
31:4545
31:4645
31:47sorry
31:48time for rest please
31:49it was 15 30 hours today
31:51and the reason for the rest is the heading
31:54assault please
31:56do you suffer any mental health problems or from depression
32:00no sir i don't
32:01no sir i don't
32:02have you ever tried to harm yourself
32:04no sir not everything
32:06no good idea was it
32:07no to aids
32:09the custody sergeant asks her
32:12if she's ever harmed herself
32:15and she says no sir
32:17it's a bit ironic
32:19because you just have tried to harm yourself
32:21on the m6
32:23why are you saying that
32:25can you put your shoes off for me
32:29they are so dirty and smelly
32:32and they found only one socks for me
32:34no
32:35just look it up
32:36try not to breathe then
32:38can i just tell you to take your ink off the top please
32:41and your jewellery
32:42and put it on
32:43do i have to take it out
32:44yeah you do
32:45can i have to keep it out please
32:46yes
32:47no you can't
32:49you need to take it off and put it on there amy
32:51all right
32:52okay
32:53it's the little things that seem to bother her as opposed to the what you would think
32:57are the big things
32:58you're booking her in saying she's assaulted a police officer
33:01and all she's worried about is
33:03what she's going to wear
33:05and how she looks
33:06and that's surprised me from start to finish dealing with her
33:11there's no makeup
33:12no cigarette no makeup
33:14no
33:15it's horrible really i really need my makeup
33:18you look terrible
33:20terribly
33:21terribly
33:22i don't think she knew
33:27anything that had gone on
33:29she either
33:30didn't care
33:31or couldn't remember
33:33okay
33:35okay
33:36fine
33:37second
33:39one of the roles that the police have to play
33:42is
33:43the safety of whoever is in custody
33:46their first thought is
33:48are there any relatives that we can contact to tell them what's happened
33:52are you their eldest sister or younger sister
33:56older sister
33:57okay
33:58Mona
33:59er
34:00Sabina is fine
34:02but Ursula is quite
34:04quite badly injured in hospital
34:06people
34:07it would seem that they ran out into traffic
34:11on a busy motorway
34:16have you what
34:17yeah
34:18when was the last time you spoke to your sisters
34:22crikey
34:23yeah
34:24sabina
34:26sabina has children
34:27i didn't know that
34:29are they living in sweden
34:31okay
34:33but will you be able to tell your mum do you think
34:36okay
34:38all right then
34:39well thank you for your help Mona
34:41okay
34:42okay
34:43thank you bye-bye
34:48well yeah
34:49it seems
34:50well thankfully
34:51she speaks excellent english
34:53she's really had no contact other than internet
34:56er
34:57for an
34:58for a few years
34:59but
35:00it seems like the
35:01two sisters basically travel the world and
35:04i don't know if there have been problems with mum
35:06but mum hasn't spoken to
35:08them for about 12 years apparently
35:10so
35:11erm
35:12so very odd
35:13i've just read the statements of one of the officers
35:15and
35:16they talk about
35:18the formidable strength of them
35:21as if they are
35:23there is something within their systems that's not right
35:26i mean the girl i spoke to in custody
35:29bears no resemblance to the girl described in the officer's statements
35:34after the scene was cleared i was actually on call for staffordshire police as a forensic medical examiner
35:46okay
35:47that would be a solid voice yeah
35:49our role is to assess prisoners that come into the custody suite
35:54to see if they're fit to be detained and also if they're fit for interview as well
35:59initially when i arrived at the custody suite i didn't know who i was seeing but when the individual was brought in i realized that it was actually the lady that had been knocked down by the car
36:11after my assessment of sabina erickson i advised the police that she was fit to be detained
36:17okay
36:19okay
36:20but everybody got a laugh and a laugh at you
36:23where you come from
36:25although sabina and ursula's behavior does appear to indicate that they might have been under the influence of some sort of drugs
36:32ursula was tested in the hospital and sabina at the police station
36:36there were no drugs found in their system no drugs or drug paraphernalia found in their bags
36:42i'm going to use some water in the blanket then
36:43okay
36:44okay
36:45okay
36:46okay
36:47okay
36:48just please check out the movies please read the last sister
36:50i lost the start
36:51just report
36:52okay no problem
36:53voila
36:54sabina was held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged with trespass on the motorway and assaulting a police officer
37:16sabina erickson was convicted and sentenced to one day in custody which she'd already served so she was released from the magistrates court and sent on her way
37:35there are so many unanswered questions around this case
37:41when they stopped at cale services why would they not put their bags back in the hold of the coach
37:48were they being influenced by somebody else was somebody putting pressure on them
37:56also why were they both trying to run in front of traffic on the m6
38:02what was causing this extreme behavior
38:09i could never have imagined the kind of thing that sabina would do based on her behavior at the police station
38:26you say always in sweden that an accident rarely comes home usually at least once more followed
38:34i don't think it occurred to me at the time that she should have been detained for a long period of time
38:41but the fact that she was capable of decking a police officer indicated that she had some kind of violence streaked her
38:51her actions her behavior demonstrated that she wasn't safe
39:00police have launched a murder inquiry into a 54 year old man found stabbed to death behind his home and sentenced
39:06the other one she's in the run
39:09oh no shit
39:23oh jesus
39:36after the incident on the m6 where they were running into oncoming traffic
39:42and causing mayhem on the motorway
39:45ursula was taken to hospital with a serious leg injury
40:00sabina was arrested held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged with trespass on the motorway
40:10and assaulting a police officer
40:13the judge said she had to serve a day in prison which she'd already done
40:17so she left the magistrates court with her things in a clear plastic bag
40:25she was seen wandering the streets of fenton
40:32sabina is a foreign national in a country she doesn't know and she would have been confused as to where to go
40:40it's bleak and there's nothing to help you
40:47it would have been scary and frightening to be on her own without anybody to reach out to or to help her in that situation
40:57her sister obviously had been taken to hospital and she would have had no idea how to even reach out to her sister
41:07sabina made her way somehow towards Duke street which is near not far from the courthouse at all
41:14sabina made her way somehow towards Duke street which is near not far from the courthouse at all
41:20she was on that journey when she met my brother
41:24my brother Glen and his friend Peter often went to the pub and sat in the beer garden
41:41he had to sit there because of his dog which he took everywhere with him
41:47he idolized it and I'm not sure what time they left
41:53but on the way home is when sabina apparently approached her and said what a lovely dog
42:04and then spun a story about a sister being in a car crash and she was looking for somewhere to stay
42:15so Glen decides that he can help Sabina because his brother works in an A&E
42:25so Glen, Peter and Sabina go back to Glen's house on Duke street
42:29her personality sort of opened up she was a lot more bubbly and friendly
42:41and she seemed happy to be talking to us as we carried her stuff down towards Glen's house
42:46two mobile phones, a laptop and duty free cigarettes and there was this red wall cardigan
42:53and walking down thinking this is a little what's going on here who is she something's not right about this woman
43:02Glen always sided with the underdog
43:07sometimes he might be overzealous and get involved in situations that he would have been better to stay away from
43:15if I'd known the story about the M6 like an award Glen
43:24her and her sister run onto the road
43:28the defense diagnosis was folia due
43:32a French term meaning the madness of two
43:36how can someone catch a mental illness of somebody
43:39if I'd been working
43:41if I'd been working
43:42they'd Glen ring me up and tell me he's got a Swedish woman there
43:45I could have warned him so be very careful
43:48she's very dangerous
43:50yeah I could have warned him
43:53I did get the chance
43:56there
44:05but
44:11yeah
44:15yeah
44:17yeah
44:21yeah
44:22Stay there for the concluding part of Twisted Sisters next.
44:30And if you or someone you know has been affected by any of the issues raised in tonight's programme,
44:35please go to channel5.com slash helplines for information and support.
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