«یوروپ‌تودی»: تحلیل تقابل ایلان ماسک با اتحادیه اروپا و بررسی آخرین خبرهای مهاجرت به اروپا

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«یوروپ‌تودی»: تحلیل تقابل ایلان ماسک با اتحادیه اروپا و بررسی آخرین خبرهای مهاجرت به اروپا   برنامه جدید و پویای یورونیوز به نام Europe Today را در ساعت ۸ صبح به‌وقت بروکسل تماشا کنید. فقط در ۱۵ دقیقه، ما مهمترین خبرهای سراسر قاره را به‌اطلاع شما می‌رسانیم.  لب بیشتر : http://parsi.euronews.com/2025/12/08/elon-musks-confrontation-with-eu-reviewing-the-latest-news-on-immigra-europe-today  مشترک شوید: یورونیوز به یازده زبان دیگر در دسترس شماست

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00:00Good morning, it is Monday the 8th of December. I'm Maeve McMahan and this is Europe Today,

00:21Euro News's daily live fix of European news and analysis.

00:25Coming up today, Elon Musk has said the European Union should be abolished for issuing his social

00:31media platform X with a fine of 120 million euros. But the commission says this fine is a response

00:38to several violations of its Digital Services Act. It's the first fine ever issued under this

00:43landmark legislation that aspires to keep Europeans safe online. This, as the US administration

00:49warns in a controversial national security document that Europe must change or face

00:54civilisation erasure. For more on this story, let's turn to Maria Today, Euro News's EU editor.

01:00Good morning, Maria. Bring us up to speed on this story. There's a lot to digest this morning.

01:04Well, there's a lot and the EU really caught up in this vortex over the weekend, which,

01:09as you say, really started on the Friday morning when the US put out and Europeans found out

01:14about this national security strategy. In this document, the US does say Europe is a natural

01:21ally, but they also argue in unusual language, to some extent, we could question whether or not

01:26it's diplomatic, that Europe has to go back to its former greatness. It also argues that illegal,

01:33uncontrolled migration, bad economic policies, too much regulation, all of this put together could end

01:38the European civilization as we know it. The document presented by the US also welcomes European

01:44patriotic parties, who they argue are resisting this trajectory, and the US, they add, should help

01:50contribute to change this trajectory. Obviously, this is unusual language. It's not shocking. It's not

01:57really surprising, because it builds up really on the speech that the US Vice President J.D. Vance gave

02:02at the Munich Security Conference. The only difference, of course, is that it is now in writing. I should

02:08note, however, over the weekend, I spoke with European officials who told me, look, this document has

02:13little to do with national security and a lot about what they perceive is political interference. Now,

02:20the second part to this has to do with Elon Musk. The Commission fined X 120 million euros for breaching

02:27transparency rules in the European Union. The fine, the amount, I should note, it's quite small compared to

02:33other penalties on US big tech. Nonetheless, it triggered a big response from Elon Musk, who's

02:38been tweeting about the European Union all over the weekend. He started, and hopefully we can put it up

02:43on the screen, saying the EU is not a democracy. It has become a bureaucracy. It should be dismantled,

02:50abolished the EU. Quite strong language. The Commission is still defending this fine, saying it is

02:56appropriate. They believe they have a strong legal case. And if he disagrees, he can take it to court in a

03:01court of justice, of course. And Maria, how has the EU been responding to the unprecedented language

03:05from the other side of the pond, from, in theory, their biggest ally?

03:08Yes. And, you know, when we look at the EU as an institution, very timidly, no word from the head

03:15of the Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, no word from the head of the European Council either. But we did

03:19speak with Kaya Callas, the Foreign Office Chief Policy from the EU. She told us the way to look at this

03:26is that domestic issues have to be dealt by the EU on external matters and conflicts. We should still work

03:33together with the United States. Let's take a look.

03:36Let's focus on the things that we can do together. I mean, what we can take from that security strategy is that

03:43we are still, you know, allies with America. We don't always see eye to eye on everything, but it's our internal

03:51matters we can handle ourselves. Let's focus on the global challenges that we actually have, which are,

03:56you know, economic cursive practices from China that we are both, you know, faced with, which is

04:02the threat that comes from malign actors like Russia, like China, like Iran. So we definitely need to

04:11focus on what we can do together and, you know, domestic issues. Let us let them be our domestic

04:18issues. And that was Kaya Callas speaking to your news note, how she said three times these are

04:24domestic issues. That's for the EU. The capital's much stronger language. The French foreign minister

04:29saying the commission is right, and this is just a start. The Polish foreign minister, much stronger

04:34language. He tweeted directly at Elon Musk saying, go to Mars. There is no censorship for Nazi salutes

04:40there. Obviously, that's a reference to another controversy as to whether or not Elon Musk had made

04:44a Nazi salute at a rally at the start of this year. But maybe what we're seeing, of course,

04:49is a lot of cacophony because there is no single strategy in terms of how to deal with the United

04:54States at this point. For the EU, the institution, I repeat, it has been so far about de-escalation,

05:00hoping to stabilize the relationship, although that's not really been the case. The tariffs went ahead,

05:048% to 5% on Ukraine. Very difficult situation. But for the time being, the strategy continues to be,

05:10don't engage publicly. Indeed, a very tricky time for the transatlantic tie. Thank you so much,

05:14Maria Tadeo. Your news is EU editor for that. And if you're listening to Maria's analysis there

05:18about Elon Musk and thinking, you have seen this movie before, you're right. It is not the first

05:23time the EU and Elon Musk find themselves in the online boxing ring. Our reporter Jakob Janis has this

05:29refresher. Over the weekend, there was yet another battle between the EU and Elon Musk, who claims the

05:38European Union should be dismantled. It sounds extreme, but if you look at the timetable,

05:44the bells have been ringing for some time already. Let's go back to July 2024. Musk claimed Brussels

05:53offered him a secret illegal deal to censor speech. Fact check. It was a standard compliance procedure

06:00offered to every platform, but Musk used it to frame himself as a victim. Then was August 20,

06:082024. The European Commission sent a formal warning letter to follow EU law. In response,

06:15Musk tweeted a very non-diplomatic meme from the movie Tropic Thunder. In late 2024, he told German

06:23voters to back the far-right alternative for Deutschland. And then he attacked Italian judges

06:29on migration, claiming they need to go. And his current battle is against the 120 million

06:36euro fine for his social media platform, X. However, the fine is not about supposed censorship,

06:43but about consumer fraud. It means selling verification to anyone, including bots, actively blocking researchers

06:52from seeing public data and hiding who actually pays for the arts you see. Given that the penalty

07:02is well below the maximum possible fine, we need to ask one question. Is the game you play,

07:09Elon, actually about business? Or maybe it's about something else?

07:14Jakob Yanis there. Well, coming up, we'll be joined by Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, the exiled opposition

07:24leader of the Belarusian democratic movement, who emerged after challenging Belarus's authoritarian

07:29leader, Alexander Lukashenko, in the 2020 presidential election. Forced to flee her home country, she now

07:36dedicates her time to advocating for democratic Belarus and resisting the regime's role in Russia's war

07:41against Ukraine. Svetlana Tikhanovskaya, great to have you with us here on Europe Today.

07:46Good morning.

07:47Welcome to Brussels. First, how is your husband, Sergei, doing? He was released this summer

07:51after many years behind bars in Belarus.

07:54He's gone through the process of rehabilitation because all the political prisoners are really

07:59exhausted physically, but he's not broken mentally and gave a boost of energy to our movement.

08:05And of course, it was thanks to the Americans that helped orchestrate his release.

08:08We saw Keith Kellogg there engaging in dialogue with Lukashenko. Do you trust them now to help

08:13end the war in Ukraine?

08:15Look, we all want peace. And of course, I'm so grateful to President Trump personally and his team

08:21for releasing political prisoners from Belarus. But of course, the future of our country depends

08:27on the outcome of the war in Ukraine. And of course, we all want just and long-lasting peace,

08:32not just, you know, temporary relief to give opportunity to Russia to regroup and start attacking

08:39again. But also, what is important for us is that during these negotiations, Belarus aspect is also

08:45included, that Belarus is not giving a cancellation price to Putin, that Belarus will not lose our

08:50independence. And that's why we need a strong Europe as player in these negotiations that will be the

08:58voice of Belarusian people.

08:59Because a bad deal for Ukraine would be detrimental, I imagine, for Belarus.

09:03Absolutely. Yes. We understand that if Ukraine loses this war, hopefully it will not happen and we'll keep

09:11strong alliance around Ukraine. It will mean a status quo for Belarus for rages and Russia will continue to

09:18subjugate our country. But how would you describe the current talks taking place? We saw three days

09:23of talks in Florida this weekend. There was no breakthrough. Are they really peace talks or are

09:27they more surrender talks? It depends on the strong position of Europe, first of all. Of course,

09:33you know, President Trump, he might want fast peace in Ukraine. But for us, it's more about security

09:41architecture. It's about region. It's more than about only Ukraine. It's about all European

09:47neighborhoods, Moldova, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, so on and so forth. So that's why here, Europe has to

09:54remain with its strong, bold and firm position and defending and protecting all our region.

10:02Do you think Europe has been too weak so far in these talks?

10:04I think that Europe is much stronger than it might seem. It might think about itself. But

10:14we maybe need more unity, more boldness, because any hesitation or undecisiveness is percepted as weakness

10:24by dictators. And now we see that Russia, together with the other regimes and Lukashenko, they are testing

10:32the borders of Europe.

10:35Well, we can see that. I mean, the EU has been furious as well with these balloon incursions coming into

10:40Lithuania. Lithuania declaring a state of emergency. The Belarusian appointee here in Brussels has been

10:45summoned by the Commission. What's going on and what's behind this?

10:48Now, all these meteor balloons and drones, it's part of hybrid attacks on Europe. The same as migration

10:58crisis and the hijacking of airplanes, so on and so forth. So we see how dictators are trying to

11:06blackmail, constant blackmail Europe, just to see how far they can go without a strong response. And in our

11:14case, I think that it's a very effective tool to close the borders for trade, for goods, but not for

11:21people. Just be tough on the regimes, but we are very, you know, open for the societies.

11:27And Belarus, Lukashenko, he's also been weaponizing migration. We've seen a lot.

11:31Yeah, you know, it's last many years already, and these migration attacks are continuing. It's also

11:37one more, you know, tool in the dictator's hands, how to weaken or test or blackmail our Western neighbors.

11:46And finally, President Zelensky will travel to London today. He'll be sitting down with Friedrich Merz,

11:51the German Chancellor, President Macron of France. Any expectations for those talks today?

11:57I hope that it will be unity around Ukraine, about our region, that Ukraine will be given

12:04everything they need to win this war. We don't have to follow President Trump's path because his

12:12approach is more transactional, but we have to think more strategically about

12:18security architecture for years ahead.

12:20Okay, Svetlana Tekanovskaia, thank you so much for coming into us today here and speaking to us on

12:25Europe Today. Well, meanwhile, this Monday in Brussels, EU justice ministers from all across the block will

12:31be gathering for talks on the implementation of the EU migration pact. Their gathering takes place after

12:37reports came from Crete this weekend that 18 people lost their lives trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea.

12:43Ida Sanchez reports.

12:46Migration management in the EU takes a big step this Monday. For the first time ever, four EU countries

12:53will receive direct help. Italy, Greece, Cyprus and Spain will benefit from a so-called solidarity

13:02pool, set up to better manage migration flows. From relocations to cash injections, countries should be

13:11able to rely on this support. But until ministers make a decision today in Brussels, the proposal made by

13:18the Commission is just an idea. Ask how much and who will pay is still the big question on the table.

13:28One thing is clear. Under the new migration and asylum pact, no country will be forced to accept relocations.

13:37This was one of the most controversial points of the proposal. Countries like Poland and Hungary completely

13:44opposed the idea. Last month, the European Commission presented their first annual report on migration flows

13:51in its country. They identified who they thought needed support.

13:59The so-called solidarity mechanism, one of the most controversial parts of the migration pact,

14:04will be applied from June 2026.

14:16And for more on the outcome of those talks in Brussels today, keep an eye on Euronews.com.

14:21But that brings this Monday's edition of Europe Today to an end. Thank you so much for tuning in and for

14:26being with us. We'll be back, of course, tomorrow morning again with another episode. See you then, and take care.

14:56Bye-bye.

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