"Европа сегодня": комиссар ЕС по энергетике объясняет полный отказ от импорта российского газа
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01:00What should we expect from these talks in Florida?
01:02I'm afraid to say, but I really don't have any hope that they will lead to anything.
01:05There might be some progress there, because what we know is that the Ukrainian negotiators,
01:09specifically the head of Ukraine's Security and Defense Council, Rostem Omerov,
01:12they did go to Florida.
01:14Why?
01:14This is their way of kind of getting an update from Steve Witkoff, Trump's envoy,
01:19after his meeting with Vladimir Putin earlier this week in Moscow.
01:22And this is what Vladimir Zelensky, Ukraine's president, had to say about the content of that meeting in Florida.
01:28Today, Ukrainian representative will continue talks in the United States with President Trump's team.
01:41Our task now is to obtain full information about what was said in Russia,
01:46what other reasons Putin found to prolong the war and to put pressure on Ukraine,
01:50on us, on our independence.
01:52I've been told by some sources close to the negotiations that one of the biggest issues
02:00is the fact that the Americans seem to be on board when it comes to Ukraine's sovereignty,
02:05but not necessarily Ukraine's territorial integrity.
02:07And of course, these two aspects are going hand in hand.
02:10It's like one thing for Ukraine and for Europe, but not necessarily for the United States.
02:14And another confirmation on the fact that this is a big issue is coming from this reported leaked call
02:20where President Macron reportedly said that there is a possibility that the US will betray Ukraine on territory.
02:27So the Europeans, of course, very concerned.
02:28And today we're seeing emergency talks.
02:31Friedrich Merz, the German chancellor, is in town.
02:32He'll be dining with Barthe Weaver, the Belgian prime minister,
02:35and Ursula von der Leyen, the commission president.
02:38Will they not chew over their Belgian freaks or choke on them
02:40because they're clearly not going to get an agreement on the frozen assets?
02:43Certainly. Friday night Brussels, that's the definition of emergency talks, right?
02:48And we do know that Merz reportedly had to cancel his trip to Oslo to be here.
02:51So this is really those last efforts and attempts to convince the Belgian prime minister to get on board with that.
02:58European Council President Kosta, he had a call with Zelensky yesterday,
03:02and he said that the decision on securing Ukraine financing will need to be taken before the summit.
03:08And the summit is coming, of course, on the 18th and 19th of December.
03:10But the time is indeed running out for that one.
03:14And meanwhile, of course, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, is in India observing the whole situation from there.
03:18He is.
03:19And he's been also issuing more threats, specifically threats towards Europe from India.
03:24He said that it was Europe's fault that Russia started its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
03:29He also commented a little bit on his meeting with Witkoff, saying that it lasted for five hours and that he was kind of getting tired of such a long meeting.
03:37And, of course, he issued once again the threats that Russia is ready for war with Europe, saying they're not going for it.
03:45But it is ready.
03:47And he said there will be nobody to negotiate with from Europe if they start to do anything.
03:52Open threats are coming from Moscow, from the Kremlin, ever since the beginning of this week, May.
03:56OK, Sascha Vekalina, thank you so much for that update here on Europe Today.
04:00But now, coming up, we'll be joined by Dan Jorgensen.
04:04He's the Danish politician from the Social Democrats, who's held several major national and European roles.
04:11And since 2024, he's been the EU Commissioner for Energy and Housing,
04:15focusing on trying to wean the European Union off its addiction to Russian gas.
04:21Commissioner Jorgensen, welcome to Europe Today.
04:23Thank you.
04:24Lovely to have you with us this Friday.
04:25Now, of course, there was a big historic deal announced this week that the EU will fully phase out Russian gas imports by 2028.
04:33Tell us more.
04:35So, yeah, basically, we've been in a very uncomfortable situation being dependent on energy from Russia.
04:43Obviously, it's not a nice thing to be dependent on energy from anybody, especially not from an enemy.
04:48Completely addicted, yeah.
04:49On the other hand, also, we have to acknowledge that buying energy from Russia has also had other effects.
04:57It has helped indirectly finance the war in Ukraine.
05:01So why did it take you so long?
05:03Yeah, so I used to be a member of the Council as an energy minister from Denmark,
05:08and I was one of the ministers that argued from 22 that we needed to stop this as soon as possible.
05:14The reason why it hasn't been possible is that, unfortunately, not all countries agreed,
05:18because normally you would do this via sanctions, and then you can do it fast, but it demands unanimity.
05:23And we haven't had that support, unfortunately.
05:26So what this new commission decided was that, okay, we will choose another way to do it.
05:31So instead of using sanctions, we have used the prohibition, so we will actually ban the gas.
05:36This has another advantage also, which is that when there is a peace, which we hope there will be soon,
05:43that will not mean that we will then just start buying gas again.
05:46This will stand also after a peace agreement, which I think is good,
05:49because we should never repeat the mistake of becoming dependent on Russia again.
05:53And what will the decision mean now for our viewers?
05:56Will their energy bills go up or down now this winter?
05:58No, we are ready for this decision.
06:00So we have brought down our consumption of gas in Europe overall,
06:05which is one of the reasons why we can do this without it leading to spikes in prices.
06:10But we are also working very hard with the countries that will be most affected
06:15to make sure that they have alternatives.
06:18But what about countries that are not on board with this phase-out?
06:21I'm thinking of Hungary, Slovakia.
06:23We saw Viktor Orban, the Hungarian prime minister, just recently in Moscow.
06:26He said he will take you to court.
06:28Well, to be honest, I don't really understand these countries.
06:33I think we should stand together shoulder by shoulder against Putin to help our friends in Ukraine.
06:42But okay, this is the way it is.
06:43We will still help the populations of Slovakia and Hungary,
06:48even if the governments do not support this legislation,
06:51to make sure that also the citizens in these countries, of course, have access to cheap energy.
06:56So the devil will be in the details of this deal.
06:58I mean, one thing is launching the historic deal this week,
07:01the announcement, and then, of course, implementing will be key.
07:04We've worked very hard on this for quite a long time.
07:07So it is something that is happening gradually,
07:09and it is something that we can do in a way that will not have big negative effects.
07:15It will, on the contrary, have a lot of positive effects,
07:18which is that we will no longer be able or have to live with being blackmailed by Russia.
07:24Russia has blackmailed certain countries in the European Union.
07:29We've seen Putin weaponize energy against us.
07:33That, of course, is not a situation that is sustainable for Europe.
07:37So this is very, very good news, I think, for the European Union.
07:40And EU regulators will be kept busy making sure there's no circumvention here as well.
07:44That's very true.
07:45We need to be very strict in the way that we control this.
07:48It's also true that people have said, well, okay, this is the gas,
07:54and that's the most important thing, but what about the oil?
07:56Because there's also still some oil being imported in Europe,
08:00and also here we have said that needs to stop.
08:03That's on your plate for next year.
08:04I will put forward very soon a legislative proposal to make that happen also.
08:10So in 2022 we got 45% of our gas from Russia,
08:13and now we get just over 10%, and that will go away completely.
08:17We got 27% of our oil in 2022 from Russia, and now we get 2% or 3%.
08:21So it's not a big amount, but still that needs to go away completely also.
08:26And meanwhile, of course, you are diversifying to make sure
08:28that we don't run out as well here in Europe.
08:30Dan Jorgensen, Commissioner there for Housing and Energy,
08:33thank you so much for being our guest on Europe today.
08:36And as I said, of course, Dan Jorgensen is also responsible for housing,
08:39and it's the first time, in fact, Brussels appoints a commissioner in charge of housing.
08:43And with the picture across Europe pretty dire,
08:46it is a huge responsibility for the commissioner.
08:48Jakub Janus reports.
08:49Dear Diary, living with your parents has its perks.
08:56Free laundry, zero rent, and dinner is always on the table.
09:00It's fun when you are 15, but is it still fun when you are 35?
09:06For a record number of Europeans, the mum and dad's hotel isn't a luxury.
09:11It is an economic necessity.
09:17The latest data shows the average European now leaves home at the age of 26.
09:23But statistics lie.
09:25If you live in Finland, you are likely independent by the age of 21.
09:30But in Croatia, you are stuck in your childhood bedroom until you are over 30.
09:35It is the same story in Spain, Greece, Italy, and Slovakia.
09:41And just look at these numbers.
09:43Just in last five years, rents in Lisbon exploded by 81%.
09:48Prague's jumped by 73%.
09:51That is almost an extra rent on top of your monthly rent.
09:56And even a bit more affordable cities like Warsaw are now becoming out of reach.
10:00Finally, it is fine to rebel in your teens.
10:05But what happens if you can't escape that stage?
10:08Research suggests this crisis is eroding support for the center-left
10:13and fueling anti-establishment sentiment.
10:17Housing is technically a national issue and the EU isn't supposed to touch it.
10:23But the pressure is so high, Ursula von der Leyen appointed the first ever commissioner for housing to intervene.
10:31But let's be real, bureaucracy moves slow and rents move fast.
10:37Anyway, I gotta go.
10:39My mum is calling me for dinner.
10:41And yes, I already washed my hands.
10:43Jakob Janis there with his daily dose of humor, but also hard facts on a very serious topic.
10:54And now moving on to another story that's turning our heads here at Euronews in Brussels,
10:59and that is the unrest in Bulgaria.
11:01After days of protests across the country,
11:03the government has put its controversial 2026 budget plan on hold
11:09to hear what exactly is going on and what it means for the stability of the country
11:14that will actually be joining the Eurozone next January.
11:16We can cross over now to Sofia and speak to Raya Stoyanova,
11:19that's Euronews' Bulgaria correspondent,
11:21who's live for us this morning just outside the Bulgarian parliament.
11:25Good morning.
11:26Thank you so much for joining us.
11:27Just tell us, are these protests against the budget or just against the government?
11:34Good morning.
11:35Let me start with the fact that there is a lot of political tension right now in Bulgaria.
11:41Just yesterday, there were a few protests all over the country.
11:45Here in the capital, protesters were outside of the Ministry of Interior.
11:51They wanted the resignation of the minister.
11:53But where did it all start?
11:56On Monday, there was one of the largest demonstrations here in front of the Bulgarian parliament.
12:02People went out on the street to express their dissatisfaction with the budget plan for next year.
12:09But the frustration grew and they started demanding the resignation of the government.
12:15And what is happening right now?
12:17The government is making a new budget plan for next year.
12:21However, there are still planned protests for next week.
12:24But what are the protesters demanding?
12:28Let us hear now.
12:29We protest against this fundamental budget because it threatens to seriously harm a large portion of working Bulgarians.
12:38The middle class.
12:39This is unacceptable.
12:41We need serious reforms.
12:42A budget for over 100 billion euros to be distributed during the parliamentary recess is simply scandalous.
12:52Nothing that could have support the people protesting outside.
12:56Small, medium and micro businesses or NGOs was approved.
13:00Everything was rejected by the overwhelming majority that currently dominates the parliament.
13:04So Bulgarians, they're furious with both the government and the budget proposals.
13:10And of course, as I mentioned earlier, Raya, Bulgaria will be joining the Eurozone next January.
13:15That often can lead to sharp inflation.
13:17Are people also worried about that transition?
13:19Yes, in just 26 days, we are going to join the Eurozone and become a full member of the European family.
13:29This process now is irreversible.
13:31Many experts in Bulgaria say that this is one of the best decisions for our economy.
13:38However, most people are still afraid because of the higher prices that will come with the euro.
13:44The problem is that those fears are pushed by some of the political figures in Bulgaria,
13:52such as the president and some of the nationalist parties in Bulgaria.
13:57So one of the other problems is that if the budget for next year isn't ready on time,
14:05we will enter the Eurozone with our old budget.
14:08So to sum up, right now there is a lot of political tension and just a few minutes from now,
14:15right here in the parliament behind me, the opposition will submit a vote of no confidence against the cabinet.
14:22What will happen, we'll expect to see.
14:25OK, well, we'll keep a very close eye on that, Raya Stoyanova.
14:29Thank you so much, our correspondent there in Bulgaria.
14:32Well, this does bring this edition of Europe Today to an end.
14:35Stay with us, though, here on Euronews for more news and analysis.
14:39And we'll be back on Monday morning with a new edition.
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