00:00I'm wondering if you ever reached out to Ringo.
00:03He said, you must be joking.
00:05I've come this far, dot, dot, dot, and that was it.
00:08Well, he's on tour all the time.
00:10That's true.
00:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11He doesn't have to.
00:13A lot has happened since the last time I saw you.
00:17Crypto!
00:18Have you been playing music at all?
00:19I play music.
00:21At a pub.
00:25You auditioned a lot of trepidatious drummers in the film.
00:28It didn't seem that trepidatious.
00:30Oh, is that right?
00:30Well, some of them.
00:31Some of them were a bit shaky.
00:32Yeah, but not as much as you'd think, given...
00:35No, yeah.
00:35Yeah.
00:36Yeah.
00:36It's true.
00:37And I mean, Paul seemed to be a big fan, so...
00:39Yeah, it seemed to be.
00:40But he's his own man, and Ringo's who he is.
00:43Ringo has expressed interest in not being interested.
00:46Yeah, that's true.
00:47When you started doing this with Spinal Tap 41 years ago, documenting them,
00:51did you think at any point that you'd be shooting the likes of Elton John or Paul McCartney?
00:56Well, I didn't know, but I certainly thought that I would be at some point,
01:01because I think that Spinal Tap has been underrated for a long time.
01:06And it's taken many years for the rock world to catch up to how brilliant they are,
01:12and now they're more than happy to play with them.
01:15But I think it's long overdue.
01:18What about Dave Grohl?
01:19Did you ever reach out to...
01:21I think they might have.
01:22I mean, this was not through us.
01:24We had people calling people.
01:27Hope, Faith, who was a de facto manager for this particular...
01:31I don't have a list, but you do, apparently.
01:34Well, you were able to Zoom call with a fair amount of them.
01:38So, you think you might fill the bill?
01:40I don't want to go.
01:41We've only lost 11 or 12?
01:4311.
01:4311 drummers.
01:45Some of them, yeah.
01:46Some of them, yes.
01:47Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:48West Lover.
01:48Some of them, drummers.
01:49And Chad.
01:51Yeah.
01:51Yeah, yeah.
01:52I'm wondering if you've, you know, over the past 41 or so years,
01:55if you've seen Spinal Tap's influence live on in other major live acts,
02:00like Taylor Swift or Lady Gaga.
02:03I think when I see someone really reaching for the limits in any sense
02:07and finding a ceiling they'd like to break through in some way,
02:12I think it's partially inspired.
02:13But people like us, if not...
02:15Yeah, I would say the opposite.
02:16But, yeah, they're doing great stuff.
02:20Well, the opposite is nothing.
02:21But seeing Taylor Swift, I've never met her or seen her live,
02:25but seen on the video, and she's doing these huge shows,
02:29as Beyonce is doing as well.
02:30Big stadium shows.
02:33But I don't see a connection of any kind.
02:35Well, Beyonce particularly seems to me to have picked up the baton of Big Bottom.
02:41Okay.
02:42Well, yeah, maybe...
02:44Think.
02:45Yeah, I think so.
02:46From what I've seen.
02:47Pictures that I've seen.
02:49Spinal Tap was perhaps a major influence.
02:51And I had a girlfriend once in London who had boots.
02:56Pretty high boots, so...
02:58But how would Taylor have known that she had these boots that you coveted?
03:02I'm not saying I know how she would know that.
03:04I'm just saying she had high boots.
03:06I'm not really following...
03:07I'm a bitch on her, to be honest.
03:08Yeah.
03:09Look, you see a lot of bands.
03:12You know, the Rolling Stones.
03:13These people in the 70s, 80s years old.
03:15You've got Paul McCartney.
03:17You've got Oasis back together again.
03:20You know, all these bands.
03:22This is a band that lasts.
03:23A lot of people will say, ah, you know, their time is done.
03:30Never.
03:30They're never done.
03:32And so, this is what I feel very proud about.
03:34This is because I can show that these guys...
03:36And matter of fact, Derek talks specifically in the movie about a song that he wrote called
03:42Rockin' in the Urn.
03:43And all it says is, it doesn't matter.
03:46Even if you're dead, you keep going.
03:49Rockin' Roll is something that it just never dies.
03:53Did you ever interview someone who's got that syndrome where they fall asleep?
03:57Narcolepsy?
03:58Narcolepsy.
03:59I have not, no.
04:00Yeah.
04:01Well, you might...
04:01You might start...
04:02You have narcolepsy?
04:04No, I might develop it at any time.
04:06He's trying to catch it.
04:08I have to be honest, I do feel responsible for that.
04:11That feels a little personal.
04:12No, don't do that, young man.
04:14Okay.
04:15Don't put yourself in the center of the universe.
04:17Were there any moments between the band that didn't make the final cut of this newer documentary?
04:23Anything that was maybe too raunchy or something?
04:25No, I never worry about raunchy.
04:28Because to me, sex sells...
04:31I mean, now, they're older now, so they're all in their 70s.
04:35There's not as much activity as there was when they were young.
04:39But if there's any conflict or sexual activity, I'll put it right in there.
04:47Because to me, that's what makes people interested in seeing the movie.
04:51I got to ask on my way out, you know, because I grew up with you guys, you know, and specifically the lyric,
04:56My Baby Fits Me Like a Flesh Tuxedo, I Love to Sink Her With My Pink Torpedo.
05:02Correct.
05:02Yes.
05:02Had a major poetic influence on me as a musician.
05:06At what age?
05:06I bet you're a Robbie Burns fan, too.
05:08Yeah, sure.
05:09At what age would you say that happened?
05:12Since I was a kid.
05:13I was born in 89, so that was five years after the movie came.
05:17Musician?
05:17What kind of musician?
05:18I'm a percussionist.
05:19I played...
05:19Oh, I thought you said musician.
05:22You knew who Ray Cooper was?
05:24You knew who Ray Cooper was?
05:25Sure.
05:25Yeah, fantastic.
05:26Do you have a percussionist?
05:27He's very good.
05:28Do you have anything with that box that you sit on and play it?
05:31Oh, yeah, the C, I forgot.
05:33Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:34I've never owned it.
05:35I have one at home.
05:36Yeah?
05:36Yeah.
05:37It's all great.
05:38You could buy it from him.
05:39Well, no, he can't.
05:40I'm using it occasionally.
05:41Using it for what?
05:42Sitting.
05:43You play guitar.
05:44So?
05:45These two are at it again.
05:46Sit on and...
05:47Wibbling about nothing.
05:48Yeah.
05:49I'm in a band that constantly is breaking apart and coming back together.
05:53But the more we retreat into the music, the nicer things become.
05:59Not to be profound or anything, and it would be a first time for me.
06:02Uh-huh.
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