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00:00Well, it has been a very volatile week, Kerry.
00:03I'm wondering if you can offer any explanations for what the catalyst might have been there
00:07and what you see as being the catalyst going forward.
00:11Do you anticipate some more volatility over the coming weeks and months?
00:16Yeah, I think some of the catalyst was the fact there just wasn't a lot of data coming out.
00:20And so when that's the case, the markets tend to get a little bit jumpy around what is available.
00:26And I think the concerns around the Bank of Japan, maybe hiking rates,
00:30the impact that may have on liquidity or unwinding of leverage,
00:34obviously weighed on those asset classes that have seen a lot of movement
00:37or are very sensitive to liquidity, such as some of the cryptocurrencies
00:40and the sort of views that that cryptocurrencies now have about broader risk sentiment.
00:45So I think there was a case of not being much data available,
00:48and that's adding to some of the concerns.
00:50And then some of these shifting narratives we've seen around the direction of rate cuts
00:54from different central banks, again, playing into the market.
00:57I think once we start to get a full suite of economic data on the public side
01:01coming back out of the US, that will start to allay some of those concerns
01:05around the standing of the US economy and obviously the trajectory into next year.
01:09And similarly, when we hear from the central banks in December around their plans,
01:13I think you'll probably get a market that's again focused on a global
01:17and US economy that's continuing to expand and risk assets are likely to do well in that environment.
01:24In terms of rate cuts, particularly from the Fed heading into 2026,
01:29I mean, there's going to be a new chair, will be a Trump appointee,
01:32probably a very dovish chair as well.
01:35But do you anticipate there might be a bit of disagreement at the Fed board in 2026?
01:40We might see an interesting looking dot plot.
01:43And what might the market implications of that be?
01:45Yeah, I think absolutely.
01:48I think what we'll see, and even coming into the December meeting,
01:51we're now expecting a rate cut to be priced in December.
01:54The market is almost fully pricing in that rate cut.
01:56It will be about that dispersion in returns.
01:59Obviously, we know that there is quite a dovish member on the Fed at the moment
02:04that's been opting for sort of larger 50 basis point rate cuts.
02:07I think that'll still be there.
02:09And we may see some other committee members who are more on the side of being a little bit concerned
02:13why we haven't seen that inflation come through just yet,
02:16and that that may start to creep in next year in terms of companies being willing to pass on
02:20some of these higher prices as they see those tax rebates come into households
02:24and a bit more money in the pocket of consumers in the US.
02:27And so I think you'll see a lot more dispersion in that dot plot.
02:30And I think one of the wild cards actually coming into next year is the fact that we are thinking about
02:35who may be the new federal chair in terms of leading the organisation,
02:40but also the outcome from that Supreme Court looking at in terms of what the outcome may be for Lisa Cook
02:47and how that could change the composition of the Federal Reserve as well,
02:50as well as the broader members from the different state level reserves.
02:54So I think that would be the biggest upset to a lot of the outlooks at the moment
02:57in terms of if we get a much, much more dovish Fed being put in
03:01and the view that you get a lot more policy easing that could lead to a bit of a policy misstep next year.
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