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00:00Arrested, it was the worst time of my life.
00:02I ended up being charged with aggravated assault with three years of probation.
00:09It has been a challenge going from the scandal to relationship, to miscarriage, to arrest, to being pregnant again.
00:20Let's talk about your pregnancy.
00:22Okay.
00:23Did you and Dakota make a decision together?
00:26After I was arrested, Dakota and I, like, we actually never broke up.
00:30We stayed in our relationship, and I think we wanted it, to be honest.
00:33It might not be the smartest decision in our situation.
00:36It wasn't, but it is what it is.
00:41This place is so cute.
00:42I want to get a little drinky drink.
00:44Hello.
00:45I got this one.
00:46You got it?
00:49I was so shocked when I found out Taye was pregnant.
00:52I, like, couldn't believe it.
00:53You were shocked?
00:54Yes.
00:54I wasn't.
00:55You weren't surprised?
00:56She's been kind of MIA.
00:57I feel like she's, like, separated herself from all of us.
01:00I mean, I feel like I would if it were me.
01:03She had the swinger scandal, had an affair with her husband, then she had her miscarriage
01:07with Dakota, continued breaking it on and off with Dakota, then she got arrested, and now
01:13she's pregnant.
01:14It's like, um, when, like, they see guys, like, think with their dick.
01:17That's, like, Taylor thinks with her vagina.
01:19She does not think of, like, using protection.
01:21I don't think she thinks with anything.
01:22I love her, but sometimes I'm like, sweetheart, like, it's not that hard.
01:29Yeah.
01:29Good morning.
01:32How's it going?
01:34Good.
01:34How are you?
01:35Good.
01:36Freezing?
01:36It is cold outside.
01:39I'm so excited to go shopping.
01:41What all have you bought so far?
01:43Nothing.
01:44You haven't bought anything?
01:45I want to wait till after the shower to get stuff, because then you know what you do and
01:49don't need, you know?
01:50Yeah.
01:51I want to invite all of MomTalk to come to my baby shower.
01:55I feel like this would be, like, a good, fresh start.
01:58Did you guys get her baby shower invite, though?
02:00Yeah.
02:01Are you going to go?
02:02Obviously, yeah.
02:04Are you going?
02:04I had one of my last probation appointments.
02:11Today?
02:12Yeah.
02:13What did they say?
02:15So this is how it works.
02:16So I went, like, once a month every month, but now it changes to every six months I go in.
02:21So I don't have to go in every month, which is a step, you know?
02:24Yeah.
02:25So that's good.
02:27Yeah, we just shouldn't even be there.
02:30I know.
02:31After the arrest, I was under so much stress.
02:35I was filmed leaving the jail, and then that was immediately on the internet.
02:40It was a blessing in disguise.
02:41It helped me, like, wake up.
02:44I'm not going to go through this again, Taylor.
02:46I can't.
02:47You've aged me, like, ten years.
02:50I've aged myself.
02:51It's put a very, I'd say, negative image on MomTalk.
02:58I think that something needs to change.
03:00We need to get back to what MomTalk was before all of this happened.
03:04Do you want to exclude her from it?
03:06Like, what are you saying?
03:07I just think, like, let's change the culture.
03:10The Swinger scandal, sure, we got a lot of eyes.
03:13We got a lot of publicity from it.
03:15But I feel like ever since the arrest, it's been the complete opposite.
03:18I know for a lot of people, like, brand deals have gone down.
03:22We need to make sure that we have a good reputation on social media because brands aren't going to want to work with us if they think we're going to jail and throwing stools at a wall.
03:32We need to make sure to just completely get rid of that culture because it's our livelihood.
03:37Right now, I feel like we're, like, holding on a threat here.
03:40Yeah, I feel like it's, like, rocky.
03:42Mm-hmm.
03:43And I feel like it's going to take at least one of us to kind of step up to keep the group going.
03:48I feel like it's almost weird today doing content without Taylor.
03:50Yeah.
03:51It just feels different, you know?
03:52Yeah.
03:53It is weird.
03:55I'm just, like...
03:57It's overwhelming.
04:00Like, I feel like right now I just have a lot on my plate.
04:02And Dakota's, like, talking about marriage a lot, and I'm not quite...
04:09I'm not fully in.
04:12I'm so scared to, like, just get hurt, I guess.
04:16I've done, like, everything to, like, push him.
04:20I think it's more of a test.
04:21Like, are you going to stay here with me through, like, thick and thin, you know?
04:25And so I've done these things where I'm, like, trying to push him himself.
04:28He's like, you're trying to ruin this.
04:29Like, you want to ruin this.
04:30And he's like, you're going to do it eventually if you keep trying it.
04:35My due date is in six to eight weeks.
04:38And I don't know if I'll, like, ever forgive myself.
04:48And that's why I, like, really push Dakota,
04:51because I don't feel like I deserve this, like, happy ending life.
04:57And I think that's, like, something, like, I learned in therapy.
05:00Like, I just, like, kind of struggle.
05:06And I'm, like, terrified.
05:11Sorry, I can't talk.
05:13I'm, like, hurting so bad inside.
05:15I know, I don't want you to feel that way.
05:18And I think that's why I had, like, a psychotic break is because I don't know how to handle it.
05:24And that much hurt that I had at one time.
05:26And the whole social media was watching.
05:28And I didn't know what to do.
05:30After the arrest, I lost a lot of friends.
05:34I miss having the close friendships.
05:36So I would like to just kind of start over, beginning with my baby shower.
05:40Oh, gosh, I'm sorry.
05:44I'm gonna put some wood glass on and act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car.
05:49Oh, thank you.
05:54I know it's cute, huh?
05:55Yeah.
05:55I'm gonna put some wood glass on and act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car.
06:00Come, ye saints, and come, ye sinners, alleluia.
06:07Listen, I'm the one you've been dreaming of.
06:12I've got everything you could ever want.
06:16Try me in your sleep, I'll bring you to your knees.
06:20Baby, you're gonna believe me.
06:22Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
06:44Should we start flying out there?
06:46My biggest thing surviving as a working mom with young kids is self-care
06:51and hanging out with my close girlfriends.
06:53I feel like I need to be on a chair.
06:56Please, Lord, make me the biggest star the world has ever known.
07:00That was it.
07:01Taylor used to be the face of MomTalk, and then when that all blew up,
07:05no one really knew what MomTalk stood for anymore.
07:08I feel like if MomTalk is gonna remake its image,
07:11it's up to the rest of us to step up and make it happen.
07:13I know you don't want to make a TikTok, but we've got to pay the bills.
07:16I mean, who else is gonna pay the bills?
07:18Who is currently, like, the breadwinner at home?
07:24I think all of us.
07:25Yeah, definitely.
07:26For sure.
07:27All of us.
07:27Really?
07:28Yeah.
07:28We all are.
07:30Look at us.
07:31Social media has been, like, the greatest blessing in that sense.
07:33I feel like we haven't done a brand deal in a long time.
07:36Zero November, zero December, and then I got three in January.
07:39I wonder if holidays were just slow.
07:42The past year has been a little rough going for MomTalk after Taylor's arrest,
07:47but we still want to keep MomTalk going,
07:49and I think it's up to us to keep everything flowing.
07:52I had one brand deal, like, going into the holidays.
07:56Yeah.
07:56And then dry.
07:59What's the weirdest deal you've gotten?
08:01Me and Jen got one.
08:03What?
08:03A bladder.
08:04What was it?
08:05After giving birth, like, your pelvic is just so weak
08:08that you could sneeze and, like, pee yourself.
08:11Yeah, so it was for diapers.
08:13I just said yes.
08:14I'm reading the brief, and me and Jen are like,
08:16wait a minute, are these for diapers?
08:18I'm like, are you doing it?
08:19Okay.
08:20I feel like you probably have had more.
08:21You have one.
08:22Yeah.
08:23You have one.
08:24Yeah.
08:24Don't you?
08:25Yeah.
08:27Do you have a weird brand deal you want to share with us?
08:28Guys, I genuinely need your opinion on something.
08:31What?
08:32Okay, so I got this offer,
08:34and it's, like, I'm not going to lie,
08:35like, the money is really good.
08:36I'm like, how much are we talking?
08:3920?
08:40200?
08:41200,000?
08:42No!
08:42Wait, wait.
08:4320,000.
08:4420,000.
08:4520.
08:45Okay, 20.
08:46I thought for what?
08:47It's really good money, Kay.
08:49What is it?
08:50What the?
08:51Oh, goodness.
08:58What the?
08:58What is it?
08:59I can't see.
09:00Just, like, pleasure points would say.
09:03What the fuck is this?
09:06Whitney Levitt.
09:07From spreading the good word door-to-door
09:09to spreading the word about vibrators.
09:12Who would have thought?
09:13Congratulations.
09:14Is that a little microphone?
09:15Oh, karaoke.
09:16Are you going to sing into that?
09:18Oh, my God.
09:19Oh, my God.
09:20Stop.
09:21Oh, my God.
09:21Oh, my God.
09:22Here, you want to see them?
09:23Let me just...
09:24Oh, that has my name on it.
09:25Oh, Demi.
09:26That one's for you.
09:27This one looks interesting.
09:28The Finger Pro.
09:29It's your finger, but better.
09:31Guys, I need to go upstairs.
09:32You're going to go.
09:32Be right back.
09:33Stop, Layla.
09:35Okay, so what do they want you to do?
09:37Because...
09:37So, literally, all I have to do is hold it and take a picture.
09:43Like, just me and post it on my Instagram.
09:45That's it.
09:46In the Mormon religion, we're very conservative.
09:50I worry about the people that I grew up with, specifically my family,
09:55seeing me promote this sex toy because it's very, very taboo.
10:01I don't know if I'd do it for 20.
10:02I'd probably have to do at least 30.
10:04I know.
10:04I don't...
10:04I wouldn't do it for 20.
10:05I'd do it for 100, maybe.
10:06I would do it.
10:08Honestly, I think Whitney should take the deal for the vibrator.
10:10I honestly don't see anything wrong with promoting a sex toy.
10:15The amount was still not enough for me to post that on my feed,
10:18but get that back, girl.
10:20I, personally, would never promote a sex brand.
10:26Sex has been such a taboo topic, especially within the church for so long.
10:30It's like, if we're trying to break the mold and modernize
10:32and get to a place of, like, normalizing things, that starts with us.
10:36More than just making TikToks, I just love this group of women
10:39getting together and having these important conversations.
10:42I also feel like this MomTalk group, especially being in Utah,
10:46is breaking a norm.
10:47We're raising this new generation, and things are changing,
10:52and I'm loving what's changing.
10:54I think that a lot of women, because of the shame and lack of knowledge,
11:00I think a lot of women don't even orgasm.
11:02I would die.
11:05No, I'm dead ass.
11:06Never in my life.
11:08Leila.
11:08Yeah, I'm, like, scared.
11:10Take this home with you.
11:11My name is Leila Taylor.
11:13I'm 22.
11:14I got married when I was 19.
11:16Me and my husband were then married for three years,
11:19but we ended up getting divorced.
11:20So I've only ever really dated about four people.
11:24So that's not a lot of time to discover yourself.
11:28Have you tried a toy?
11:29Yeah.
11:29And any time I get close to the feeling of it, I get scared.
11:32And I, like, stop.
11:33Yeah.
11:34Two kids, 22.
11:35Never in my life.
11:36I went to a very Mormon-populated high school.
11:40So I'd be like, okay, what's the one thing that all of my friends have in common?
11:42They're all part of the church.
11:44So I got baptized on my own when I was 16.
11:47Being black in the church, I have never taken it personally,
11:51but you definitely do stick out, like, a sore thumb.
11:54I feel like I'm, like, missing out.
11:56And I, like, want to, but I just...
11:58You will.
11:58Once you do it once, you will want to do it all the time.
12:00You'll be like a teenage boy.
12:02I know.
12:03That's just...
12:03I'm trying to leave it in puberty.
12:05No, she literally starts levitating.
12:07I just...
12:07Oh, my God.
12:11Do it for yourself.
12:12Don't even do it for him.
12:13Because sex isn't just about the guy.
12:16It's about us two, you know?
12:18The more you enjoy it, the more they enjoy it.
12:20I don't have that problem.
12:21I enjoy it funny.
12:22Yeah, you definitely are...
12:23Like, I ain't worried about who it's for, to be honest.
12:27Before you're married, it's, like, sex is taboo,
12:29but then the second you get married,
12:30you're supposed to be this, like, porn star for your husband.
12:32We know who the real porn star is for their husband.
12:37No!
12:38Can we look at that?
12:39Can we look at that?
12:41We've seen those nudes.
12:43My name is Jen Affleck.
12:45I am 24 years old.
12:47Zach's gonna kill me for this one.
12:49But Ben Affleck is his second cousin.
12:51I'm definitely the first Jen Affleck.
12:53Not only that, her middle name is the same as mine.
12:56Jennifer Lynn Affleck.
12:58I don't know.
12:58Maybe we can convert them to the church.
13:01I am a content creator.
13:02My goal is really just to be able to provide for my family.
13:06I've always been super comfortable with my sexuality,
13:09which I definitely think has also gotten me in trouble.
13:14Because I am a conservative Mormon.
13:16I do follow all those rules.
13:18I'm not kidding.
13:19You inspired me, like, full, like, for Brett.
13:22And I've never done anything else.
13:23Wait, you did it?
13:24Yes.
13:25Like, you took a picture?
13:26Oh, I took so many pictures.
13:27Wait, I want to see.
13:29What's your picture?
13:30Oh, my God!
13:34Oh, my God!
13:36Not again, not again!
13:38Jimmy, what is he?
13:40No, I don't want to see.
13:42There she is!
13:43In all her glory.
13:45Here we are, a group of women in mom talk who can inspire other women to not be ashamed
13:51to use a sex toy, I think is very empowering.
13:54I just worry that my family would be a bit shocked by me advertising something like this.
14:02Oh, my God!
14:03What is this shit?
14:03Oh, I'm here!
14:04What?
14:05What?
14:05Oh, my God!
14:06Oh, my God!
14:06Work your back, mommy work your back, mommy work your back, mommy work your back.
14:10Work it through some little mama work your back.
14:12Cheek your nigga, nigga, and we'll mind it back.
14:18Cheek your nigga, nigga, and we'll mind it back.
14:21Hi!
14:21Hi!
14:22Come on in.
14:23How's it going?
14:24You guys can sit down.
14:25What are you doing?
14:27Dishes.
14:28What are you guys up to?
14:29Your mom drug me here off of my job sites.
14:32Really?
14:33So what's so important you need to talk to us about?
14:36Did you not tell him, Mom?
14:38I did tell him that Dakota was probably kind of moving.
14:42Not, yeah, probably.
14:43Like, yeah, he's moving in.
14:46When?
14:48Today?
14:49Like, now?
14:51Yeah.
14:52I'm very excited for this next step.
14:54One, we have a child on the way,
14:56and I feel like I really just want to try to move forward,
15:01heal, and really work on our relationship.
15:03I know you guys prefer marriage before moving in,
15:06but, like, that's obviously not how it's going to go, you know?
15:11I'm not supportive of it.
15:13Why do you have to rush it?
15:15Because we're having a baby.
15:16I know, but that doesn't matter.
15:17You'd rather me do it alone?
15:20Yeah, that's the choice you made when you got pregnant.
15:23In our religion, marriage is, like, essential to have that partnership.
15:29We believe, like, it's a sacred thing.
15:32That's what me and your mom have tried to teach you.
15:35The church teaches that we shouldn't live with a partner outside of marriage.
15:41You already got divorced, you know, at a young age,
15:43and then you bring Dakota in this
15:45when you don't know if he's 100% sober.
15:48I don't want you to be like,
15:49oh, this is not going to work out.
15:51Okay, I have a baby from a second daddy.
15:54I don't want a revolving door of men
15:55attached to my daughter and to my grandkids.
15:59For having this baby out of wedlock,
16:02you guys can be mad all you want,
16:04but he's moving in and he's going to help me with the baby.
16:06That's the goal is to get married.
16:07It's not like, oh, I'm having this kid and I don't want to get married ever.
16:10You want to give yourself time before you marry someone for the rest of your life again,
16:14you know, like, it's my second marriage,
16:15so it's like I'm scared.
16:16Yeah.
16:17Again, you shouldn't have got pregnant.
16:19Which is true.
16:22Is that him?
16:23Probably.
16:23I'll go say hi and help him.
16:28I'll be right back.
16:30Hey.
16:32Hi.
16:32How's it going?
16:33Here, I'm going to help you bring some boxes.
16:35You don't have to, babe.
16:36You're fine.
16:36Do you have any light ones?
16:37A lot of them are light.
16:38I mean, I'll get most of my heavy stuff.
16:40I just told him that you're moving in.
16:41Look at that one.
16:42Just now.
16:42Are you listening?
16:43Oh, sorry.
16:43No, what?
16:45You told him?
16:45Just now.
16:46Wait, you just told him?
16:47Yeah, I know.
16:47That's why he's like, oh, you brought him here.
16:50He doesn't have anything?
16:52No couches?
16:53Dirty clothes.
16:54Dude, I didn't know your parents were even going to be here.
16:56Do they need help?
16:59It's always scary.
17:01It is scary.
17:02You might go.
17:03It's all that gray hair.
17:05They've caused you to go gray.
17:07Hopefully.
17:07What can you do?
17:09They don't ever listen to anything you tell them to do anyway, so.
17:14Seriously, do you need any help?
17:15Because we can grab something.
17:16I don't know.
17:16I think we're good.
17:17He doesn't have a whole lot.
17:18Like, I have more, but.
17:20So, first of all, you knock up my daughter.
17:22Oh, my gosh.
17:23And then.
17:24Dude, hey, that was an accident.
17:26Okay.
17:26What, you tripped and fell?
17:27Yeah.
17:29Yeah.
17:30Um.
17:31So.
17:32Moving in.
17:36That's shocking.
17:37Just found out.
17:38I know.
17:39Is that how you were raised?
17:40You just moved in with these chicks?
17:41No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
17:42See, here's, here's, so, here's what happened.
17:44You just knock up girls?
17:45No.
17:46See, everything we did, completely opposite.
17:49I think, like, realistically, we would have liked to have done it.
17:53The traditional way.
17:54The traditional way.
17:55But, given our situation, I want to also help Taylor, so.
17:59So, I just feel like the only way for me to really do that is to be in here.
18:03I'm excited to have another life into our family.
18:07A little baby, but I do have my reservations about this whole thing.
18:12This is, honestly, everything I've ever wanted in my future.
18:16I just never thought it was possible for me to have.
18:19I do want a family.
18:20I want all those things.
18:21Not only that, I love your daughter.
18:23Like, I love her a lot, and we align a lot on what we want in our future together, so.
18:29Which makes it really nice.
18:31We talked about that, like, even just, like, religion, I guess, as simple as, like, I wanted
18:36someone in the church to marry again, and he wanted the same.
18:42Yeah.
18:42Oh, you did?
18:43Yeah.
18:45Since the arrest and my pregnancy, I feel like I have changed spiritually.
18:50I have really looked at, like, what's important in my priorities.
18:55I want someone, like, to go to church with when we go to church.
18:58Like, I don't want to be in a relationship where, like, I'm taking my kids alone and stuff,
19:02and I just really wanted that, like.
19:04And you have usually the same morals and values, I feel like, or do we always follow them?
19:10No, but we're pretty aligned with that, in that way.
19:12Being pregnant and recommitting and trying to go back to church is not the typical Mormon
19:19thing to do, and most wouldn't, and I feel like they'd be a little bit more shameful,
19:23and I do have those feelings, anxiety, fear of going back in and being judged.
19:28However, I still love our faith and really want to make an effort to go, so we are just
19:33going to try.
19:34I think that when you're pregnant and you're bringing a life into the world, you need to
19:39be really considering marriage.
19:41It's really not that different, you know?
19:45Dakota moving in with my parents and being here did not go at all, but I'm hoping our
19:51baby shower goes better.
20:08Hi!
20:09Oh, look at you, you look so cute.
20:11Oh my gosh.
20:11Pregnant mama.
20:12Oh, let's see.
20:14I know.
20:14Look at this baby.
20:15Oh my gosh, it's getting so big.
20:16You're still small, though.
20:17What the heck?
20:18It's like you're lucky.
20:19I get huge.
20:20I know, and I'm almost, like, there.
20:22I know.
20:23Sweet.
20:23So, are we looking for stuff for the baby shower?
20:25Yes.
20:25I want to show you, like, a picture.
20:27Yeah, what's the vibe?
20:28I'm having my baby shower at this venue called The White Shanty.
20:32It is Mormon-owned, and they pretty much have, like, every Mormon event you can think of.
20:37I just really want this baby shower to be perfect, and I just really need my support system back,
20:42so I just hope all my friends come and show up for me.
20:45We want to find, like, some eucalyptus.
20:46Is that what it is?
20:47Yeah.
20:48And then baby's breath.
20:49Yeah.
20:49Okay.
20:49So, you can kind of look.
20:50And I was looking at these, and I'm like, dang, I want to get some plants.
20:53I'd probably kill it on accident, though.
20:56So, I am kind of nervous about my baby shower.
21:00Why?
21:01Just to see everyone.
21:03I'm just, like, scared.
21:05Yeah.
21:05Honestly, there's just no other way to see it.
21:06I don't blame you, but I feel like when everything came out, I felt bad for you.
21:11Everyone was shitting on you, and I was like, I would hate to be in her position,
21:14even if I effed up, and everyone's like, effing you, Taylor.
21:17I'm like, I couldn't just, like, I couldn't even, like, imagine where your mental health was at.
21:21If anything, it made me, like, want to come towards you more.
21:23Like, this girl, like, needs a friend.
21:26After the scandal, and then, obviously, the arrest, the moms and mom talk all for sure judged me.
21:32They didn't know the background of the story, so they were like, we don't like Taylor.
21:36Those who love and support you will be there.
21:38Yeah.
21:38And I guess that can kind of give you an idea of, like, who cares and who doesn't.
21:42We don't have time for fake friends.
21:43I do feel like you've done a great job at taking accountability for, like, things from
21:49the past and, like, what you've done.
21:50Yeah.
21:51But I do think that you take all of the accountability, and you act like it's all you.
21:57And then, like, Dakota looks like this angel sent from heaven who's, like, this perfect person
22:03when he's not.
22:05Like, I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
22:08I worry because of, like, what I've seen him say to you.
22:12Me and Mikayla went to this event.
22:15Taylor shows up, and then her ex walked in, and immediately Taylor was, like, stressed.
22:21Dakota was freaking out.
22:22He basically was saying, like, F you.
22:24You're a nothing slut.
22:26And Taylor was sitting there, like, shaking.
22:28She doesn't deserve that.
22:29I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated.
22:33When we were at that event, and he was texting that I was looking up your shoulder, I was
22:45reading your whole conversation.
22:47Oh, my gosh.
22:48I could see that you were, like, shutting down, and you were so anxious, and I was, like,
22:51what's going on?
22:52I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated.
22:55But I also feel like things have gotten so much better.
22:59Like, what has changed?
23:01Like, he's being less toxic, or?
23:03Both of us are being less toxic.
23:06How so?
23:07Just, like, with the addiction, or just, like, in the relationship?
23:09Everything.
23:10Taylor definitely hasn't confided in me as much since she got pregnant.
23:14I don't really hear much about their relationship anymore, which I knew eventually would happen.
23:18That's what usually does happen in those toxic relationships.
23:20Two weeks before she told me she was pregnant, she called me basically saying, I want to
23:26get out of this relationship.
23:27I don't know how to get out.
23:29Like, she was basically asking for my help.
23:31And then two weeks later, she's telling us she's pregnant.
23:33I always think about you.
23:34That's why I always check in, because I'm, like, I want you to know you can, like, talk
23:36to me.
23:36I think that's why I always, like, defend you, because I've been there.
23:40Yeah.
23:41Because I'm telling you, some of the girls don't, and they won't.
23:44And I feel like I really gave them the benefit of the doubt, but I haven't seen any progress.
23:48Maybe that's why.
23:49Like, I only know what I saw in the past, and that, like, pisses me off.
23:52Sure, there's been a lot, I will say.
23:54Yes.
23:54I can honestly say there's been so much progress.
23:58Dakota is obviously very insecure, because people who are confident in themselves and
24:02the relationship, they don't act like that.
24:04But it's still no excuse for his behavior.
24:07I'm just trying to be a good friend to Taylor, and I see those red flags, and it scares me.
24:12I don't trust him.
24:13I don't think he's good for Taylor.
24:14I don't think that they should be together, period.
24:17Do you think I should just do this on my own?
24:20Like, you'd rather have you be happy without this person than miserable with them just for
24:23the baby.
24:24I don't like him.
24:29I see Macy as, like, this protective friend.
24:32She's always defending me in situations.
24:34I do appreciate that she's blunt and always been honest.
24:37I know she wants the best for me, but at the same time, it's really hard to hear and accept
24:42as well.
24:43All right, well, I want to look at the pots they have.
24:45Yeah, let's look at the pots.
24:46You want to kiss me?
24:49Take your foot up off the brake.
24:51Make no mistake.
24:53We're wide awake.
24:55Second guess and every move.
24:57What's up?
24:57Oh, Whitney's here.
24:59Whitney's here.
25:01This morning is starting.
25:02Yay!
25:03I'm so excited.
25:07Hey, Fun, you guys already have everything out.
25:10Yeah.
25:11Guess who did it?
25:12Lexi.
25:13Is she the new favorite?
25:15I don't know about new.
25:19Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
25:22I know it's a whole mouthful.
25:24My family is very conservative.
25:26My family's family is very conservative.
25:29How's your boyfriend?
25:30Good.
25:31Mom, how do you feel that he's not Mormon?
25:33He's a great kid.
25:34Why do I feel like if I were to date a non-Mormon boy in high school, mom would have absolutely
25:39said, no way?
25:41Well, now you know I wouldn't have cared.
25:43Of course, it's going to weigh in to my decision whether or not I'm going to promote a vibrator.
25:53I'm just trying to figure out, is this a gray area or is this an absolute do not promote
26:00this?
26:02So, mom and Lexi, I'm curious to know your point of view on this too.
26:06I got a really juicy brand deal for a vibrator.
26:13Okay.
26:14Just to promote it on my social media.
26:17Why would you do that?
26:18Well, one, the money is really good.
26:21And two, and two, I feel like I can go about it where it's, like, empowering.
26:28You don't think it's, like, empowering?
26:32No.
26:33Why?
26:35Do you feel like that, like, matches your platform, though?
26:38Because you're all like, oh, my God, kids, homemaking, vibrator.
26:44I mean, yeah.
26:45Like, let's empower each other.
26:47I don't feel like it does match.
26:49I just think a lot of that is private, personal.
26:53But I also, I wanted to, because I, like, I didn't want it to be shunned.
26:56It's, like, if you need this tool to enjoy intimacy with your partner more, like, there
27:04shouldn't be shame around it.
27:05Do you feel like there is with the church in sex toys?
27:09Probably, yeah.
27:10I think it's a personal thing between you and your partner.
27:14What if you were single?
27:16I'm not sure how I feel about that.
27:18You think that it should be a no-no?
27:21I think when you're seeking pleasure, it can just get out of hand.
27:25I feel like we were so involved in the church.
27:30Growing up, even in young women's or girls' camp or young women's activities, like, whenever
27:35we would talk about the law of chastity or sex, like, it was always no, no, no, no, no.
27:41There's this verse I remember where it talks about how sex was comparable to murder.
27:46And so that's what's going in my mind as a young woman.
27:52I even had this sex talk before I got married to Connor, and I was a virgin.
28:00I had to figure it out on my own.
28:03Whitney.
28:04My wedding night should have come from a horror movie.
28:07That was a horrible, horrible night.
28:10It was a conversation that was never had, so we both just went in this blindly.
28:15Okay, maybe not a horror movie, a comedy.
28:19In some schools, you're taught, like, sex ed.
28:22I don't know if it's a Utah thing, but no.
28:25Like, when I, like, would watch these movies and they, like, hold the banana and, like, put
28:28the condom on the banana, I'm, like, never at my school.
28:33I remember at your shower that your friends threw you.
28:36Yeah, the bachelorette party.
28:38I mean, you had to know, you guys had penis cookies.
28:41I was kind of like, what is going on?
28:43I had just had another baby.
28:45She was a toddler.
28:46Cut me some slack.
28:47You should have taught me how you had the baby.
28:51Obviously, you figured it out.
28:52I wish that I had conversations with my mom about topics such as this.
29:00And it's hard because, you know, my mom was raised in the church, and her mom didn't talk
29:04to her about it.
29:05We just never did talk about it.
29:07So I just took that as, oh, this is just something you don't talk about.
29:10It was, this is shameful, horrible.
29:13Don't ever do this.
29:14Don't even think about it.
29:15If you do, you're a horrible person.
29:17Like, that's literally what I believe.
29:18Like, if I could go back in time, I would check that off of my parenting list to make
29:23sure that I asked if there was anything that you wanted to know that you didn't know.
29:28Oh, I love you, mom.
29:31The sex is great now, if you were wondering.
29:35And you know what made it better?
29:37Toys.
29:38So, I wish my mom had talked to me about it, but I'm so happy that she's listening now.
29:43Sex can be viewed in religion as, like, disgusting.
29:47But times are changing.
29:48It's a new generation coming in with MomTalk.
29:51We're here.
29:52We're embracing our sexuality.
29:54It's empowering, and it's exciting, and it's fun.
29:59I think I'm going to do it.
30:01I think I'm going to promote the vibrator.
30:03You hate it.
30:05You hate it so much.
30:07Well, there's lots of things I don't agree with, but that's okay.
30:12The cycle ends here.
30:15I'm going to have this conversation because it needs to be had.
30:18Maybe I'll send you one.
30:20It's okay.
30:23You don't need to send me one.
30:25Be careful.
30:38Watch your step.
30:40This slushy.
30:41Hey, guys.
30:44Welcome to the sale.
30:45How are you?
30:46How are you?
30:46How are you guys sitting right over here?
30:47I'm doing well.
30:48How are you guys?
30:48Good.
30:49Thank you so much.
30:50This is so cute.
30:51This is cool.
30:52Oh, yeah.
30:53This is awesome.
30:54Thank you so much.
30:55You're welcome.
30:57So, who's going to the baby shower?
30:59Invited my family, your family, and then I think mostly all of my close mom friends are
31:05coming.
31:05Like, they'll be there.
31:06Is it all the mom talk girls and stuff?
31:08Yeah.
31:08It's mom talking.
31:09How was Macy?
31:12Didn't she go to the flower shop with her?
31:14It was good.
31:14We kind of just caught up.
31:15She asked about how we were doing.
31:16Oh, she's still talking shit?
31:19Like always?
31:20No.
31:20Yeah.
31:21That's all she does.
31:22She doesn't like me.
31:24It's not that she doesn't like you.
31:25It's like she's been the one friend that I've opened up to about things.
31:29So, she's, of course, just a friend.
31:30No, no, no, no.
31:31She's petty.
31:32I'm sorry.
31:33Like, there's a difference.
31:34Like, I've opened up to my friends, too.
31:36Taylor, she doesn't like any picture you post.
31:39Most of us, like, she's so petty.
31:41She won't even like the picture.
31:43Who does that?
31:44Sorry.
31:45That's weird.
31:46I don't know where she seems like she has this right to, like.
31:50Because I confide in her.
31:52She's the only person you confide in?
31:54Mm-hmm.
31:55I don't confide in a lot of people.
31:57But I haven't even tried.
31:59I am scared of friendships right now.
32:01Like, just, like, kind of like I'm scared of, like, a marriage and everything.
32:04Like, just from everything that's going on.
32:06Like, I am scared to have close friends.
32:08I really am.
32:09Because the close friends that I had the last five years were not even really my friends
32:12and were gone in the snap of my fingers.
32:14Macy was one of the first ones to come and be my friend.
32:17I have screwed up with MomTalk twice now.
32:21First the scandal and then my arrest.
32:23So I do feel on the outs, insecure, and probably a little bit judged.
32:30I don't know all of their intentions, and I don't think you ever really do know your friendships
32:34until something happens and then you find out the hard way.
32:38I don't want there to be drama, and so I'm hoping that MomTalk, they will kind of give me
32:43another shot, and we can all have a fresh start together.
32:45Hey, hey!
32:54No more playing.
32:56Stop running out of patience.
32:58I'm running out of, I'm running out of...
33:01He is so fun.
33:02Yeah.
33:02I want purple plastic.
33:04Hi!
33:05Hi!
33:06Hey.
33:07Awesome.
33:09I know.
33:09You could change the hand.
33:10Ooh.
33:13Whoa, this feels so weird.
33:15Oh, look, he's like, Mom, no.
33:17You can do it, buddy.
33:19It's Himalayan salt.
33:20Yeah.
33:21But it's supposed to be really good for your immune system.
33:23So it's like any time my kids are sick or if I'm sick,
33:25like, I'm like, uh, we need to go to a salt cave.
33:28Can you eat it?
33:30My kids do.
33:32OK, wait, what are you wearing to Taylor's baby shower?
33:34I don't know if I'm going to go to that.
33:37Why?
33:38I don't have that kind of relationship with her.
33:40We've cultivated this relationship online,
33:43but we don't have one in real life.
33:45And I don't even think she'd care.
33:47The whole time I've known her, it's always
33:49been give, give, give, and it's never been reciprocated.
33:52And I'm just kind of like, well, then why am I still giving?
33:55Why am I still supporting?
33:56Why am I still entertaining this relationship
33:58when there's nothing even there?
34:01Like, I know it's going to be fun, but it's like,
34:04I don't want to do that anymore.
34:06I want to lead MomTalk back in the direction that it was
34:09originally founded on.
34:11I am not supporting this fake friendship
34:14that we don't have anymore.
34:16I just feel like I have to walk around on eggshells
34:20every time I'm around her because of this audience
34:24that she has on social media.
34:25It's like, I'm so intimidated by it.
34:27I'm like, oh my god, like, look what she did
34:29to her best friends.
34:30Look how she fucked them over.
34:33When this whole MomTalk swinger drama happened,
34:36it was immediate crash.
34:39We were all in this massive group chat,
34:40and then people are just fighting back and forth.
34:42And friendships were torn apart because of what
34:44Taylor was saying.
34:46And it sucks that she even allowed something
34:48like that to happen.
34:49Online, it looks like we're all the bestest of friends.
34:53But we're not.
34:54All she cares about is herself.
34:55I genuinely feel that way.
34:58This is definitely typical Whitney.
34:59She will have problems with somebody, have tension,
35:03and she just wants to avoid it rather than to talk to them.
35:05Every time we're together, she has to create a TikTok,
35:07and it has to make sure that she's shown as the queen bee,
35:10and we're all these girls who kiss her ass and let her pee.
35:13And I'm like, I'm done with that facade.
35:15I don't want to entertain it anymore.
35:17I'm out.
35:18I'm not really sure why Whitney would consider not going
35:22to this, especially just because one of the purposes
35:24of our group in MomTalk is that we come together
35:26and we support each other through all the things
35:28that we're going through in life.
35:30She was getting a divorce.
35:32She was having an affair.
35:33She got arrested.
35:34I'm done with that.
35:36I feel like all of us in MomTalk,
35:37it's really important that we all stay strong and united.
35:40It makes me honestly really worried that Whitney
35:42might not show up.
35:44I don't trust her.
35:45I don't feel safe around her.
35:46I don't want anything to do with her.
35:48And I think that's fine.
36:09Actually, I have an idea.
36:10What if I'm going to put all the greenery on here
36:13and then we'll just keep this one the green.
36:15Hey, Taylor, what did you want to do with the welcome sign?
36:18Do you want it on the table?
36:20And yeah, we have easels we could put it on.
36:21What do you think would look best?
36:23I think if you used an easel.
36:25Let's do that.
36:26Yes.
36:27Yes.
36:29I'm kind of nervous.
36:33With the arrest, I don't know necessarily if the girls did judge or have any opinions
36:38about it.
36:39I came back to the church, try to get my life together and just kind of redeem myself.
36:44And I'm like finally getting there.
36:46We're moving.
36:47We're progressing.
36:48But I feel like I have distanced myself from, you know, all of my friends.
36:54I don't know who's going to show up and who's not, but I do want them there for me.
36:59I don't want to do this alone.
37:01I'm stressed.
37:02I'm like, anxiety attack.
37:04I know secrets for my friends.
37:23I don't care if I offend.
37:25You know rules are bent to bend.
37:28I will keep them to the end.
37:30Rumors spread like fire, but a good liar can't stay immune.
37:39I know secrets don't make friends.
37:42I don't care if I offend.
37:44You know rules are meant to bend.
37:46I'm going to keep them to the end.
37:48I know secrets don't make friends.
37:51I don't care if I offend.
37:53Hi, it's the bitches right here.
37:54Look at them.
37:55Despite my issues with Dakota, I know it's important to be able to show up for Taylor.
38:00for her baby shower.
38:01She has gone through so much in the last year.
38:03I want to make sure she feels loved and supported.
38:04I think when Taylor sees us a group of girls rallying around her, she'll be more excited
38:09and happy to come back to MomTalk so it can all start making videos again and be a united
38:13front.
38:14You look stunning.
38:16I am here to fully support her on her journey and whatever her journey looks like.
38:23Even if she's taken a step back lately, which I totally understand and respect, I have supported
38:28Taylor through all of the ups and downs throughout MomTalk, and this is no different.
38:33Look at your cute little belly.
38:35With the ribbon, you are going to cut how big you think Taylor is, and then whoever is
38:41the closest to guessing how big she is wins a prize.
38:44I just feel like he's going to be such a sweet dad.
38:46He is.
38:47He's going to be really cute.
38:48I think he'll be a great dad.
38:53The baby daddy part is where I think we worry a little bit.
38:56There's just stuff from the past that I think still bugs me.
38:59When we were at that event, we were saying, like, F you, like, they said, like, you're
39:03an F you whore or something.
39:06Okay.
39:07Do you guys have your ribbons?
39:09Yeah.
39:09I would love to check for you guys.
39:11Do a check.
39:12Awkward.
39:13I know.
39:13That was close.
39:14I was like...
39:16I'm going to put my hand on your belly because I love it.
39:18Do you guys know where Whitney is?
39:19Oh, is Whitney not here yet?
39:21I don't know.
39:22Oh, fashionably late.
39:26Is she coming?
39:27Last night, I was with her, and she's not coming.
39:32Wait, what?
39:34Yeah.
39:34Oh, did she tell her if she's not coming?
39:37No, and I told her maybe she should, but she said that Taylor's probably not even going
39:41to notice.
39:42I am shocked that Whitney is not coming to the baby shower.
39:45At the same time, I know she's not a big fan of Taylor right now, so it doesn't surprise
39:49me, but she should at least send her a text.
39:52I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor that she does not want to be friends and she
39:56does not care about Taylor.
39:57Does she say what?
39:58I don't want to go into, like, too much detail, but she just says that she just doesn't want
40:01to be involved with Taylor.
40:05Can I get a pic with all of you girls?
40:06Is everyone here?
40:08Um, I think so.
40:08Whitney?
40:09Where's Whitney?
40:09Oh, yeah.
40:10Oh.
40:10I don't know if she's coming.
40:12What do you mean?
40:14Did she say she wasn't coming?
40:16Um, I think, I guess she told Layla last night she couldn't come.
40:19I don't know.
40:19I honestly think she...
40:21You know why?
40:21Why isn't she coming?
40:24I'm not.
40:24I...
40:25Wait, wait, you're not coming?
40:26You're, like, the worst liar ever.
40:28I know.
40:28Just be honest.
40:29What's that?
40:30Layla knows.
40:31I don't know.
40:31You guys don't have a friendship, so she felt like she didn't need to come today because
40:35you guys don't have a friendship.
40:36Oh, that's news to me.
40:38I don't want to be the one to have to bring it up.
40:40She's the messenger.
40:41I was just hoping you wouldn't notice, so I wouldn't have to say.
40:44That she's not here.
40:45The tension between Whitney and Taylor is very tangible with them at all times.
40:53It's like, you're either team Taylor or you are team Whitney.
40:57I feel like they both love the spotlight in different ways, but they both have this very
41:02alpha female energy, and that seems to be the bigger issue.
41:08Whitney and Taylor, do you know this?
41:10Why?
41:11Yeah.
41:11Because it says we have a friendship.
41:14Yeah, do you?
41:14Hot.
41:21Hello?
41:22Hey, Whitney.
41:24Yeah.
41:25This is Leigh-Anne, Tay's mom.
41:26How's it going?
41:28Good.
41:28What's up?
41:29Good.
41:29I was just calling because I noticed you weren't here.
41:32Your mom called Whitney.
41:34Oh, my gosh.
41:34What up?
41:35Yeah.
41:38Taylor's mom called Whitney.
41:40I would die if my mom did that.
41:42What is going on?
41:45Um, I don't know.
41:47I think that's more of a conversation between me and Taylor.
41:49There's a clear division in mom talk.
41:57Sinners versus saints.
41:59Zach's parents are very conservative.
42:01They don't smoke.
42:02They don't drink.
42:03I thought it was a graduation party.
42:05You guys are all going.
42:05We're hosting Luca's baby blessing.
42:09It's, like, super sacred and spiritual.
42:12You just don't want any bad energy.
42:14I didn't know we were uninvited.
42:15That was to hurt you.
42:16It's kind of like the Mean Girls in a sense because it's, like, them three against the world.
42:19Demi, I have a gift for you, though.
42:22Oh, my God.
42:24This was completely intimate and off the table.
42:29It is very hypocritical because she wants to create this safe space with mom talk.
42:33I just think it's below the belt.
42:36Oh, my God.
42:38Shh.
42:40Shh.
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