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Volatility to Stay Elevated on Data & Fed: 3-Minute MLIV
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5 weeks ago
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00:00
Am I going to have another busy week like last week?
00:02
Can I just look forward to Turkey or is it going to be bumpy?
00:06
I think, yeah.
00:07
We're still very much in a toffee trading environment, I think is the headline.
00:12
We talk a lot about the Santa rally into year end, then people get optimistic,
00:15
but I think what's less appreciated is that there's also a seasonal component to volatility.
00:20
So you see that it generally tends to decline into the Christmas period and into the summer.
00:26
Now, in theory, that's a positive.
00:28
I think the issue is, yes, you decline into Thanksgiving,
00:31
but you don't really get more subdued volatility until the middle of December.
00:35
So that's still a couple of weeks away.
00:37
And you don't really have any use for seasonals unless there's a reason for them.
00:40
And the reason that seasonals decline at that point in terms of volatility
00:43
is because you have fewer central bank meetings, you don't get data coming out.
00:48
And we have the opposite right now.
00:50
We're getting an excess of data coming out.
00:52
You also have the December Fed meeting where there's a lot of focus for that meeting
00:56
because we're unsure of whether or not they'll cut or at least the market doesn't have a strong view either way.
01:01
That pricing needs to shift into the meeting or at least, you know, if it comes down to the wire,
01:05
you'll have the shift on meeting day.
01:07
And that means that you're still in this kind of choppy environment
01:09
because you're two seasonals that are supportive in terms of data and Fed aren't there.
01:14
How much of the rally that we've seen so far and even arguably the rally we're seeing this morning
01:18
is dependent on the Fed continuing to grease the equity market's wheels?
01:22
In other words, how dovish does the Fed need to be to sustain the green on the screen?
01:27
Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on what kind of time frame you're looking at, right?
01:31
So if you have a Fed that doesn't cut in December, that's certainly not positive for equities into year end.
01:37
I think, though, in the longer term, if the Fed keeps cutting towards 3%
01:41
and the easing cycle that we're in currently, then that can be quite positive.
01:46
We're not talking about this yet, but if you have a complete 180 on the Fed,
01:50
as in we're not looking for any more cuts, we're starting to think about hikes into 2026,
01:54
which I think is a real possibility when you think about the fact that we've had monetary easing.
01:58
We're close to what could be a neutral rate in the U.S.
02:01
You have fiscal easing that could get more aggressive into next year
02:04
with talking about kind of helicopter money around $2,000 just being given out to U.S. Americans.
02:09
If that happens, then I would start to get more concerned,
02:12
or if it's inflation-led because for the equity market, it cares very much what's driving inflation.
02:18
If it's gross inflation positive, then that's positive for equities.
02:22
But if we just have inflation without the growth, then I'll start to get more worried, too.
02:27
In terms of what else we're going to watch this week, how big a factor is the budget going to be?
02:31
Is that the main event this week out of the U.K.?
02:33
Yeah, I mean, definitely for the U.K. it's the main event.
02:36
I think, though, I'm less pessimistic than generally people in the U.K. tend to be,
02:41
or even the market is.
02:42
We're very optimistic people.
02:44
There's a lot of pessimism priced in, I think is number one.
02:48
And I think what we underappreciate is that the government,
02:51
while it may not be the smartest thing ever,
02:53
they kind of test the market before releasing the budget.
02:55
We had that test a couple of weeks ago.
02:57
So there's no danger that guilt volatility translates into wider bond market.
03:01
Oh, no, there definitely is that risk.
03:04
But I think it's maybe less worrisome now that you've had the market tested once in the budget already.
03:09
Okay.
03:10
We are optimistic people, honestly.
03:13
We just don't sound like it.
03:14
Yes, we all saw that.
03:16
We see that every day.
03:17
We're still here.
03:17
We're still here.
03:17
We'll see you.
03:18
We're still here.
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