00:00Does anyone have any classic movies that they have pretended to have seen?
00:07I'm willing to.
00:10I haven't seen Winter Soldier.
00:14Listen, Eric. It's fine.
00:20I loved working with Adam on my last film, and I thought he was amazing in that film,
00:25but I think people thought that he was playing a version of himself.
00:31He plays a kind of shy character, which is not at all like Adam.
00:38So I felt maybe his performance was underrated in a way,
00:41because they didn't see that it was actually a very nuanced performance.
00:44So I had this idea to write a role that was the opposite end of the spectrum,
00:51this very gregarious character, and show this other side of Adam.
00:58So that was an early inspiration for the film.
01:02Did you feel the same way, like, oh, I want to show people that that was actually not like me?
01:08Well, I think the end game for any actor is to be able to show as much range as they can.
01:16And of course, with any role, you sort of like tap into the bits of the character that you identify with,
01:22and exaggerate those.
01:24But it's also, like, far removed from other stereotypes,
01:28and other kinds of roles that actors like myself and other disabled actors get offered.
01:34Something that was out there, gregarious, successful.
01:37And what I liked about the character and the way it came across on paper
01:42is that the disability is, like, rarely mentioned, if at all.
01:47Sebastian, how did this come to you?
01:50Did you guys know each other? How did that?
01:54You know, my agent just loved Chain for Life and sent me the script and the movie
01:59and said, you really should look at this filmmaker and the script that it was, you know.
02:06And then I just immediately, when I saw his film and then I read it,
02:09I recognized how different it was, obviously, for many, many reasons,
02:15but also how important and how, you know, something like this doesn't usually,
02:20it just doesn't get made, it doesn't, and it certainly doesn't come to me, you know.
02:24And so then it was, I felt more really in pursuit of him and Vanessa,
02:29his wife, producing partner, you know, and really trying to kind of make sure
02:33I am understanding what he's after, you know.
02:35What felt most different for you in production of this film
02:39in making it on set versus stuff you'd done before?
02:44I mean, everything, everything about it.
02:48I mean, we were, you know, like, again, like, very low budgeted movie
02:53that we were shooting in New York City for like, I get the days, 22 days?
02:5722 days.
02:5822 days, and it was like COVID, you know, there was a lot of things,
03:03and there was a timing issue, you know, there was a prosthetics piece to it
03:07that I'd never really encountered that was important to find,
03:10and there was not a lot of time, you know, to get these shots.
03:13And he was very specific with how you wanted to make this movie.
03:16And so, you know, we were in this tiny apartment, you know,
03:20with dollies and tracking shots and stuff.
03:23And so everybody on that movie, all the crews had to just be on top of their game.
03:28And also because he's doing one takes, which was incredible because it keeps us like,
03:33you know, all of us like on our toes.
03:35And when it goes, it's amazing.
03:37But all it takes is one little thing to not, it takes one sound person
03:42or just one thing, you know, to kind of screw up the take on film,
03:47which also you don't get a lot of takes.
03:49So like the anxiety level was pretty high.
03:51But when you get it, you know, and when it works,
03:56it's just like the most unbelievable feeling.
03:58You just feel gratified and unified.
04:00I just had to accept the nervousness.
04:03It was my first English speaking movie or outside Norway at all.
04:08And yeah, I didn't know it was like one takes, one shots.
04:14And it was a lot of text.
04:16It was very intimidating.
04:17I said to Aaron early on, you know, I was like, I really want to speak to Adam.
04:22And he was very kind and gracious to be very candid with me about his experience
04:27and growing up and so on.
04:28And I was like, I'm never going to understand how to approach this.
04:32But he brought up this point, which I never would have thought,
04:35which was like, look, you understand what it's like to be a public figure, right?
04:39Like to some extent, like if you recognize your public property.
04:42And that I understand.
04:44And it's not, you know, I've had my little, very different,
04:48but some experience with just the invasion of that.
04:51And the public property idea here was really interesting.
04:55I hadn't thought about that.
04:56Yeah.
04:57Yeah.
04:58Yeah.
04:59Yeah.
05:00Yeah.
05:01Yeah.
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