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Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander did not deny that Chancellor Rachel Reeves plans a pay-per-mile scheme in the Budget for electric vehicle drivers at the same time as adding £1.3 billion to a grant cutting the upfront costs for buyers.Ms Alexander said she would not pre-empt the Budget, but told the BBC’s Sunday With Laura Kuenssberg: “As we make the transition to electric vehicles, I think two things can be true at the same time."

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00:00Well, what I think we have done as a government is set out what our priorities for this budget
00:04are, which is about cutting the cost of living for people. We're making an announcement today
00:10about freezing railfares for the first time in 30 years. We want to cut NHS waiting lists
00:16and we want to cut the national debt. And so I think the fact that the Chancellor has
00:20been open and honest about the considerations that are at play in this process is important
00:27for the electorate. She needs to explain what is happening. The review that the OBR have
00:32done about the productivity forecast has meant that this whole process has really taken place
00:38on shifting sands to start off with. And we've got a very challenging global economic. It
00:43is on an upward trajectory and we have the highest volume of sales of electric vehicles. As a
00:51result, I think, of the introduction of the electric car grant. The electric car grant gives
00:56people who are buying a new electric car up to £3,750 off a new vehicle. There are 39
01:04models that are eligible for that grant. And since we launched it a couple of months ago,
01:0935,000 people have availed themselves of this grant. This is an investment in the country's
01:15future. We see the transition to electric vehicles and the good quality manufacturing jobs that
01:21are associated with that. For example, the Nissan Leaf, which is produced at Sunderland. Thousands
01:26of jobs dependent upon that. That's just qualified for the electric car grant. And so making sure that
01:33we are enabling people to buy a new electric vehicle if that's what they want to do, whilst also investing
01:39in charging infrastructure. It is the right long-term decision for the country.
01:45Unless you want to rule it out right now, which is your choice to do, we're also expecting the
01:49Chancellor to make it more expensive to drive an electric car with some sort of pay per mile
01:54scheme. So if you pardon the pun, you're trying to get people to make it cheaper to buy them,
01:59but make it more expensive to drive them, which is putting the foot on the brake and the accelerator
02:02at the same time. That doesn't make sense, does it?
02:04So I'm not going to pre-empt the budget. I know that the Chancellor will be on your show next week and
02:09can answer questions about the announcement that she's going to make. As we make the transition to
02:13electric vehicles, I think two things can be true at the same time. We need a fair vehicle taxation
02:19system for all motorists because EVs, like drivers of petrol and diesel cars, they're driving on roads
02:27that require maintenance. We've got ageing infrastructure, motorways that were built back in
02:31the 60s and 70s. And so we need to have a fair taxation system that is future focused, but we're not going
02:37to do anything to jeopardise the transition to electric vehicles and that will remain front
02:43and centre.
02:44But it is.
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