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Emission TV : Tout le Monde en Parle (1998-2006) sur France 2 Invité Bernadette Lafont (extrait d'émission, Fr, Années 1990)
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00:00So my parents, they were strange, they were both strict and liberal, which means they were very strict about schedules.
00:05Yes.
00:05And at the same time, you let them dress however you wanted.
00:07Yes.
00:07That's funny.
00:08So I dress like a...
00:10And now...
00:11Burnett, you're in great shape.
00:21Can we tell your age?
00:26Good.
00:27So, Chabrol, you asked to dye your hair blonde for Inspector Laverdette with Jean Poiré, and you went back to a more natural color class.
00:36Now, I'll see with time.
00:37Oh, I should stay blonde, because with all my white hair, I wouldn't need to do anything.
00:43So, fortunately, you didn't follow the advice of another director, Jean-Pierre Moki, who told you, let yourself become fat and ugly.
00:51Like no one else, you'll have plenty of work.
00:53Well, no, you didn't.
00:56You still do floor bar.
00:58At the moment.
00:59Oh, yeah.
01:00But theater is a sport, right?
01:02You're real.
01:09And I remind you that without alcohol, the party is more exciting.
01:12No, no, but it's true that I have my own association.
01:21Yeah, that's why.
01:22You took a Muslim, so you're fine.
01:24He doesn't drink.
01:25That's my problem.
01:26Ask your questions.
01:27So, you say, Bernat LeFond, my work is the driving force of my existence, my opium, my cocaine, my Pro-Sac.
01:37Well, no, I was more.
01:38Yes.
01:39Oh, yes.
01:39I like it.
01:40Yes, I like acting.
01:42I like acting.
01:43Yes.
01:43So, we're going to talk about you.
01:44We're going to see a little bit of your life, which is quite extraordinary.
01:47Wow, they're talented.
01:56Wow, they're talented.
02:03That guy.
02:06Okay.
02:07That guy.
02:11Oh, that's a real television audience.
02:13That's clear.
02:14We said it at the beginning.
02:14So, you were born in Nii, your parents were Protestants, and they were desperate to have
02:19a child.
02:21Despite living together, for 10 years, one day, they went to visit cousins in the Southwest.
02:27They stopped in Lourdes.
02:28And, miracle of it, they had actually taken a trip to the Pyrenees.
02:33Yeah.
02:34And then, when they got back, she found out she was pregnant, and since she wanted to have
02:36a son, I wore trousers under my dresses until I was 8, and she called me Bernard until
02:41the end of her life.
02:41And your father absolutely insisted that we didn't cut your hair, because he said, don't
02:48go on me.
02:49It was wonderful.
02:51So, your parents, Catholic friends, while waiting for this story of a miracle in Lourdes, asked
02:56for more, and your mother told the Catholics, we had to ask for a boy.
03:02That was just to piss him off.
03:04As for the Protestants, they didn't believe it.
03:05Until the sixth grade, you lived in Saint-Generes de Maguire.
03:09Yes.
03:10And then at the high school in Nii, your father was a pharmacist.
03:14Like all the fathers of great directors of the new wave, Chabrol Rene R. was also a pharmacist.
03:20And there you have it, he has a lot of pharmacists.
03:22Your father was crazy about famous people, right?
03:24Was recognized.
03:25And recognized.
03:26Yeah.
03:26He said that it made me feel so bad I didn't understand.
03:31Hey, Chien.
03:32He was very admiring.
03:33Oh, that one, he's famous.
03:34Exhausted and recognized.
03:37Hell.
03:37For you, it was the best thing to be known and recognized.
03:39How do you please your father?
03:41Well, it's done, right?
03:42So, I wanted to be famous, and on top of that, you had to be famous, right?
03:45Yes, not just famous.
03:46It's true that you can be known for murder at the same time.
03:48That's true.
03:48So, you were crazy about Paris Match, the L&E section.
03:53You cut out photos of Audrey from Bern by Savannah Mangano.
03:56Yes, yes, drummer.
03:58Merlin Brando and Jean Babé.
04:00Yeah, you're a bit crazy already.
04:03You didn't have much leeway, huh?
04:04Because it was still pretty screwed up.
04:06Yeah.
04:07So, in your parents' property in the Sven's, you had a room that you had repainted in indigo blue,
04:13which was a private club called the West End Club.
04:17Yes, there weren't many people, you know.
04:19It was the end of the world in the SVs at the time.
04:21The roads were tiring to get there.
04:23Her names were Anita and Bettina.
04:25Yes, and yes.
04:26And so, you were all, you were waiting for the boys in this club that you had created.
04:29They didn't come.
04:30No.
04:31Yeah.
04:32There weren't any.
04:33There weren't any.
04:35You're quite the tease because you're parents, and that's incredible, but yes, but it's hereditary anyway.
04:39What you need to know is that Bernadette Lafon's parents were in the grip
04:46of an intense sexuality.
04:49That's true.
04:50Yes, yes, I think they had sex together.
04:53Absolutely.
04:54It was a beautiful story.
04:56His parents were kings.
04:57They were the kings of the naughty nap.
04:59Yes, yes, yes.
05:02Lunch was very hot, you know.
05:04You have to sleep after lunch.
05:06And your father, your father was a charming man, by the way.
05:09He treated your mother like a mistress.
05:11Inua.
05:12He spared her the housework.
05:13He was very devoted to his wife, and since he was a pharmacist, he had aphrodisiacs.
05:19And one day, Bernette Lafon found some canteride in a drawer.
05:24It had expired, you know.
05:25Ah, that's too bad.
05:27That's too bad.
05:28Bernadette.
05:28So my parents, they were strange.
05:31They were both strict and liberal.
05:32In other words, they were very strict about schedules.
05:34Yes.
05:34And at the same time, you let them dress however you wanted.
05:36Yes.
05:37That's funny.
05:37So I dressed like a...
05:39From the moment.
05:50No, but that's true.
05:51You could dress like a...
05:52But as long as you got home on time...
05:54Ah, boom, um...
05:56That's all.
05:56Absolutely.
05:59Punctual.
06:00There you go.
06:01Punctual life is regulated.
06:02Absolutely.
06:03So, uh...
06:04You found yourself like that, sitting alone in a cafe.
06:07You had a perfect body.
06:09You are.
06:09We could say the inventor of the bodysuit, in a way.
06:12Well, it was stuff from Rep...
06:13You know, since I was doing ballet, I would wear...
06:16Just a bodysuit.
06:17Jeans.
06:17The jeans made you stretch out to put them on.
06:20Yes.
06:21Then we would go and soak in the Mediterranean.
06:23Then we would let them dry with all the salt.
06:24It would stick even more.
06:26Stop, you're turning me on.
06:30So, no, you would get turned on.
06:35No, but...
06:36Turn the guys on.
06:38So the guys would offer you a holy ring that you didn't drink anywhere.
06:41Well, that's how it was.
06:43And so, they were there telling you stories, charming you.
06:45And you said he was looking at me with the look of a horse dealer.
06:48Wang, the beast.
06:50Yeah.
06:50Yes, but why was I doing that?
06:52To get to the question, what do you do?
06:55Where do you live?
06:56The answer was, I make movies in Italy.
06:58In Italy?
06:59In Italy.
07:00Silvana Manga.
07:01Oh, okay.
07:02And yes.
07:02You were discovered at the age of 16.
07:15Listen, you're very intelligent and very relevant.
07:18There you go.
07:18At the age of 16, by a guy named Jose, who was a hairdresser.
07:23And who drank coke and had a lambret?
07:26Because to get anime chicks, you had to have a lambret.
07:30A lambret.
07:31So, you had, let's say, this first experience.
07:34Your friend, Ani, she screamed at him.
07:36She really liked it.
07:37You actually experienced it a bit like having a wisdom tooth extracted, right?
07:41Crazy, but where did you get that, really?
07:43Yes, yes, I admit that the removal of the teeth isn't the best memory.
07:47How did yours go?
07:49It was terrible.
07:54It hurt.
07:55It hurt.
07:55It hurt.
07:57I'm asking you to stop.
08:01No, I'm going to have to.
08:03I ask people such crazy questions that I have to answer when they ask me.
08:06I was drunk on whiskey at Jen Lesman.
08:08Ah, that's your name.
08:09Yeah, I know.
08:10And then there was a record called Going Home by the Rolling Stones that lasted 11 minutes and 35 seconds.
08:15And I made the most of those 11 minutes because I was a diss joker until 4 in the morning, sometimes 5 in the morning.
08:20I took advantage of those 11 minutes to escape to John Spinn's spine, which is opposite Wiscug Gobo.
08:26And so it lasted, you know what, mature ejaculation the first time.
08:31But one day I'll continue the story of Brunette Lafon.
08:39But one day, anime, at the very place where your parents met, you met the cinema, in the person of Gérard Blanc.
08:46Mat-a-ti-you-been, dude.
08:48Al, you don't know Gérard Blanc.
08:49He was the French James.
08:51So he was there because he had come to rehearse a play for the Nemarinas.
08:54Yes, a play.
08:54Julius Caesar with Hermantier.
08:56There was Stéphane Aldrin.
08:57There was Gérard Lebovin.
08:59There was Gervout.
08:59We don't really understand why, but he was an extra.
09:01He wanted to be an actor, Gérard Lebovin.
09:03Oh, really?
09:03He wanted to be an actor.
09:04That's funny.
09:05And in the end, he was a situationist.
09:06That's weird.
09:07Like...
09:08Another game.
09:09Another game.
09:09Yeah.
09:10And so Gérard Blanc, let's be honest.
09:11He had a black car with a red interior.
09:15Obviously, you were completely, completely seduced by it.
09:17So there you have it.
09:19Well, lemonade kissed.
09:20The wedding is looming.
09:21And then obviously, in me, people start whispering.
09:24People start.
09:25She's getting married to a star from Paris.
09:27Obviously, there's jealousy.
09:28There are letters from the raven that arrive at your parents' house.
09:32Is that true?
09:33No, no, it's true, Burnett.
09:33There are letters that arrive at your parents' house.
09:35Of course, of course.
09:36Saying anyway, she's pregnant.
09:37That's why she's getting married.
09:39And you weren't pregnant, though.
09:42One day, Gérard Blanc comes to ask your parents for your hand in marriage and the first time.
09:46I have to say it because the first time, you make love to him, you make him believe that you're a virgin.
09:52No.
09:53And I thought to myself, if I tell him no, he's going to be so tickled.
09:56Yeah.
09:56I already knew that men were extremely touchy about this whole dick thing.
10:00And so...
10:01No, it's true.
10:04No, but it's true.
10:10Well...
10:11So you marry him, but he's agrily obsessed.
10:18Bernadette.
10:20Bernadette is obsessed with the fact that you really want to be in the movies?
10:26He had been married to Estrella Blanc.
10:27It didn't last long.
10:28And he told you, at least you're not like all those idiots.
10:31You don't want to become an actress.
10:33When it was actually your lifelong dream.
10:35Oh, yeah, that's true.
10:36And you understood Gerard Blanc well.
10:38There you go.
10:39So you take a few photos in a swimsuit to make a splash, because there weren't any pills or swearing at Gerard Blanc either.
10:46And then you meet.
10:46He introduces you to the team at Cahiers Gerard du Cinéma.
10:50That was the beginning of your career.
10:53My meteoric rise.
10:56But it's true.
10:57It's true.
10:57And besides, you say, if he had introduced me to Vernoy as well as Lara, I would have had a different career.
11:01But he introduced you to the people from Cahiers du Cinéma.
11:05Well, he mentioned everything.
11:06But let's mention the greatest.
11:07Let's say the first ones.
11:08He didn't introduce me.
11:09In fact, we got to know them.
11:10And we made the films.
11:12Or together.
11:13So in 57, you made Le Miston by François Truffaut.
11:17Then in 59, you released Le Boat Search with Gerard Blanc, a film by Chabrol.
11:20And 60, Le Bon Chat.
11:21Then, while you made all the big films of the new wave, at the time, you were called the Village Vamp.
11:26That was for sure when Le Boat Search came out.
11:30They said that, and they also said Comic Vamp.
11:33Oh, yes.
11:33That's better, Village Vamps.
11:35And then Hervé Goubert, years later, called you the Negro Bardot.
11:38Oh, that's beautiful.
11:39That's beautiful.
11:40He wrote a very nice article about you, Hervé Goubert.
11:42There you go.
11:43You were the little sweetheart of French cinema, as they say.
11:45That was you.
11:46And then you have an explanation of the new wave that is absolutely extraordinary.
11:49You say that, in fact, the new wave was because we had invented a new film called Tri-X,
11:54and that, in fact, we could film outside without makeup and without lighting.
11:57Oh, that's true.
11:58That's true.
11:58It was a technical revolution.
12:00Yeah.
12:00Otherwise, before, it wasn't possible five or ten years before.
12:03Of course.
12:04It's always funny.
12:04When we explain something, something artistic, in fact, by a technical innovation,
12:09it's like today.
12:09We invent red small cameras that film at night,
12:11so we can make programs that are different from the ones before.
12:14Yes.
12:15That's it.
12:15And at the time, you almost ran out of steam.
12:18Yes, because he wanted Chabot to play the role that she did,
12:23and he imagined the pair, the two of them, the boy and the girl.
12:28And so with Jeans, it was Belmondo.
12:30Yeah.
12:30And then since Jeansberg was under contract with Preminger in Hollywood for years,
12:35there was a moment when it was complicated, and it almost didn't happen.
12:38And at that time, I was filming with Chabrol in Provence,
12:42and he came down and said to me,
12:44if I can't have Jeans, then I'll change the couple.
12:47And could you do it with Asnavour, Duveri et Sachet Stavour?
12:51That would have been funny.
12:52Oh, weird, huh?
12:53So Jacques Blanc increasingly criticizes you for your relationship with the Seymour.
12:57He's jealous, actually.
12:59He's jealous of the fact that you're doing a film.
13:01He didn't want a woman actress.
13:02He didn't want a woman actress.
13:03So he sent me back home after the handsome surge.
13:06Yeah.
13:06He made you say you were 17 when you were 19.
13:11So you played all those little games.
13:13Like, where did you get that from?
13:15True, I think he liked little girls.
13:17Yes.
13:18Because that was Blim.
13:18When he asked me to be 16, I think,
13:21he was so in love with me that he also fell in love with me because I was 16 and a half.
13:24And so he didn't want me to have any more.
13:26Yeah.
13:27Yeah.
13:28On that note,
13:30you get pregnant, you have an abortion,
13:32because you say there's no way you're going to keep this out of our unborn love.
13:36And that's it.
13:37And that's how it ends with Gerard Blanc.
13:40And then...
13:40No, it doesn't end like that because we've always remained friends our whole lives.
13:44Oh.
13:45And, uh,
13:46we always saw each other again with great pleasure.
13:48Yes.
13:49Yes.
13:51We got along much better when we weren't together anymore.
13:53Since I couldn't be the woman who wanted to have,
13:55that is to say,
13:56a woman who stayed at home with...
13:57He then found a woman who...
13:59Oh, yeah.
14:00Yes, yes, yes.
14:00Marie Helene.
14:01Yes.
14:02You know that Gerard died?
14:03He died in the year 2000, Gerard.
14:05I know.
14:05Yes, absolutely.
14:06Yes, I know.
14:07There you go.
14:08And then you meet Darka Medvesky.
14:11Now, that's terrible.
14:13A Slav, as his name suggests.
14:14No, no, not at all.
14:16Hungarian is not Slav.
14:18Nothing to do with it.
14:19I'm a dar.
14:19I'm a dar.
14:20So he was a cursed sculptor-artist
14:23who gave you three children that you then laid like that bitterly.
14:26Oh, that's absolutely true.
14:28In three years, like a laying hen.
14:30Exactly.
14:31But then he mailed it to me.
14:32I'm not saying I didn't see those three words go by.
14:34You think you have a lot of nerve, huh?
14:36Yeah, no.
14:38Wait, this is serious.
14:40Did he scare you a little?
14:44Darka.
14:44No, he scared you a little, huh?
14:45You were a little bewitched by him, though.
14:47There's something complicated about him.
14:48Well, a little completely.
14:49Ah, I see you've decided, to be honest.
14:51I'm glad.
14:52He slept with a knife.
14:56True, that it's not easy.
14:57Yes, normal.
14:59Tell you the case.
15:00Very well.
15:01And there you have it.
15:02So one day you get fed up with living in this shack, 50 gangs from Paris.
15:06You're not cut out for this.
15:07All your friends and girlfriends say to you,
15:08what are you doing there?
15:10So you end up coming back, and your career takes off again,
15:13and you make this wonderful film about the pirate's fiancé.
15:17And then you play the mother, and the goo,
15:18you, and of course, everyone is flabbergasted,
15:21because they expect you to play V, and you play the mother.
15:24There you go.
15:24Oh, we said anti-star.
15:27Anti-star.
15:27There you go.
15:28And then, well, you make many films,
15:29but we won't mention all of them,
15:30including Les Contes, which won you a sister, as we said earlier.
15:32And one day, and here I come to you, my young ladies,
15:35one day you discover the theater, too.
15:37One day, she goes up, you go on stage,
15:39and you have a kind of feeling like that,
15:41completely new to you, an extraordinary excitement,
15:43and you say, it's like in the movies when I started,
15:47they said engine.
15:48They said engine.
15:49No, I didn't say that.
16:03Humiliation, humiliation, humiliation.
16:07And next week, I'm fumble.
16:10I'm as sweet as a slob.
16:13So I'm as sweet as a slob when we just sang it, Fernand.
16:15Go ahead.
16:16What did you say?
16:17I remember very well.
16:19I said to myself, I made a wish like that,
16:22a sort of mystical impulse, let's say.
16:24Yeah.
16:24I was behind.
16:25I was just going to play this bloody contest.
16:27So cool was the lead role, Adam Yvonne.
16:31And I said, I'm willing to never do films again
16:33if I can still do theater.
16:35There you go.
16:37And by the way,
16:42on January 25, 2002,
16:44you're going to play Lille by Patrick Lune
16:49at the Petit Théâtre de Paris.
16:52So how do you hold your own?
16:53You're going to pitch it.
16:54So the situation at the beginning of the play
16:58is that a young man is in a sort of recording studio
17:01going round in circles.
17:04We can feel that he's waiting,
17:06that he's anxious, and the intercom rings.
17:09He says, is that you, Pierre?
17:10And the answer is no.
17:13It's not Pierre.
17:14It's mom.
17:14It's me, mom.
17:16And so I arrive there.
17:18It's my son.
17:19I haven't seen him for 10 years.
17:21He's devastated because he's in
17:24a great, great heartache.
17:26And I come to tell him
17:29that I know he's gay.
17:33And these two people who are clinging
17:35very, very tightly to each other
17:38over this, huh?
17:40But at the same time,
17:41it opens up a lot of drawers.
17:42They talk to each other.
17:43It's a great film about...
17:44In fact, he's homosexual,
17:45but he could be something else.
17:46It's a mother and a son.
17:48Yeah.
17:49And it goes far, you know.
17:50And it's very beautiful.
17:51It's called Leo.
17:52It's written by Patrick Lune
17:53and it's at the Petit Théâtre de Paris.
17:55And there's also a young girl
17:57who is the son's fiancée
17:58who gives the mother hope.
17:59But in fact,
18:00it's going to be a marriage of convenience
18:01because she is Sri Lankan
18:03and she needs to have papers.
18:05That's how it is.
18:06So that's the story of this film,
18:09this play.
18:12Thank you because Malin
18:14can bring the props, please.
18:16We're going to do a belief interview.
18:19And I want it.
18:23Malin to bring some props
18:24for this belief interview.
18:30Very good.
18:31That's perfect.
18:32Giddy-in.
18:33Do you believe in God?
18:46In the play, I say,
18:47but why do I invoke God?
18:49I'm crazy.
18:50I don't believe in anything.
18:51But if I believe in life,
18:53I believe in life.
18:55There you go.
18:55Do you believe in yourself?
18:56Well, I'll just go with it, huh?
19:02Do you believe in guardian angels?
19:03Yes, in angels, period.
19:05Yes.
19:06Guardians, not guardians.
19:07There are evil ones.
19:08Bad angels, too.
19:09Yes.
19:10Yes.
19:10Yes.
19:11Yes.
19:11Also.
19:11Yes.
19:12There are devils.
19:14Yeah.
19:14Do you believe in Santa Claus?
19:16Plus.
19:18Muriel.
19:19No.
19:20At the same time,
19:20I pay attention because that's still the case.
19:23No, no.
19:23Because when I was little,
19:24I believed in it.
19:25Then I didn't believe in it anymore.
19:27And I believed in it again.
19:28Yeah.
19:29So I tell myself that maybe
19:30it could come back to haunt me again.
19:31I don't know.
19:32We'll see.
19:33You believe in Martians?
19:36Or others,
19:37for that matter, huh?
19:40Good to remember them.
19:42It reminds me of nothing.
19:43It reminds me of the road.
19:45You believe in ghosts?
19:49Yes.
19:51A lot of things, actually.
19:52Yes, fortunately.
19:53Yeah.
19:53Do you believe in reincarnation?
19:56I think we already have several lives in our lifetime.
19:59We die and are reincarnated, actually.
20:01Yes, that's a very good answer.
20:02We, yes, we will be a Karen.
20:04Absolutely.
20:06Do you believe in Superman?
20:08Who's that guy again?
20:09Well, he's the one flying up there.
20:12Superman.
20:13That's where Nicholson was who was the Joker.
20:16Yeah.
20:16Rams had invented the middle man.
20:26He's the guy who stole but that.
20:32Do you believe in fidelity?
20:34Now, yes.
20:39Because of what?
20:42I'm asking you to stop.
20:45If we, well, isn't this your show?
20:49Okay.
20:50Don't.
20:51Do you believe in sex without love?
20:57Love without sex?
21:01Yeah.
21:03Muriel, it's on you.
21:05Muriel, sex without love.
21:07Yeah, I think so.
21:08Or, yeah.
21:08Yeah.
21:09And love without sex.
21:10It's also good there.
21:12Yeah.
21:12It works every time.
21:13Yeah.
21:15Leah, I'm not asking you.
21:17You're Michelle Drucker's niece.
21:18I don't want to do it.
21:19Is that where?
21:19Or there, there.
21:21I forgot this question.
21:23Yes.
21:24You think we can make love five times in a row?
21:28Yes.
21:29Yes.
21:32Yes.
21:33Muriel, I find that dreamy.
21:35I don't really like odd numbers, so I'd be more for it.
21:37Sick.
21:37For six.
21:38Okay, no problem.
21:38We'll take care of it.
21:39See you later.
21:40Okay.
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