00:00there was no weakness in my penguin pecker no there wasn't there wasn't there was no weakness
00:04which we never filmed yeah oh yeah it was there man it was there anatomic i was fully anatomically
00:10correct
00:27colin i want to know what does oz feel about the nickname the penguin oh not a fan yeah not a fan i
00:34mean it's never been used in any way but a derogatory way you know anyone that uses it whether it's
00:40michael kelly's johnny veeddy or whoever it may be in the show they're using it to put him down
00:45and he's somebody that's he's been put down a lot in his life and he's been kind of pushed outside
00:49of the communal experience and and he's been made feel like a quote unquote cripple he's been called
00:55a cripple he's been laughed at so it's something that he doesn't truck with at all matt please let
01:00swearing and f-bombs be part of your script for batman part two it's necessary roland turns them
01:07into poetry please you know there's i mean isn't that what's so exciting on the show to really be
01:11able to be unleashed i will say we had uh happy halloween uh from alex ferns which is that was a
01:18very well delivered line too he did it great yeah and so you know we're as unleashed as we can be in the
01:27movies uh in pg-13 but uh it is really exciting to be able to hear oz's voice in full flower i mean
01:34he gets very poetic with his use of profanity which is also fun for us to be able to do really focus in
01:40on in the movie exploration with rob's character the batman to be in a certain tonal lane but then to
01:47also then shift gears and go into you know our first series with the penguin of you know obviously a very
01:52well-known marquee character um played by the great colin farrell and go into a different lane
01:57and that's creatively really um exciting and i think it's fun for the fans too oh i didn't mean to
02:04interrupt sophia i thought you were still at uh arkham
02:13no i've been rehabilitated i spent a year with oz yeah i wouldn't really see colin
02:22out of makeup i i think i've seen colin out of makeup three times okay and it was all in like
02:28pre-production it's very strange when i hear his voice it really flips me out and and certainly when
02:33i see him in his like real form because i associate those eyes and that voice with someone who i spent
02:39a year with right who is not real but feels like a person i know better that like it's so hard to
02:47describe your brain is telling you the person you know is the person who your brain sees that you're
02:52talking to now deep down i know that it's colin but on the surface it's like a magic trick on the
02:58surface level it feels like that's what's really happening there would be times where like i wouldn't
03:02you know it isn't colin farrell it was a different person and it was a different he was not uh that
03:09when he was in uh you know in between takes he stayed he stayed in the voice and stayed in the the
03:16the the physicality of it and i like would get worried about his leg you know just like like my
03:22brain would be like no he's he's i would forget that he didn't actually have a disability yes i you
03:28know never saw him without it for the whole time that we were working together and i never needed to
03:35sort of handle the nervousness that somebody might have when you're working with somebody who a movie
03:42star who you are such a huge fan of so i never had to think about the colin farrellness of it all
03:50you promised me i was a wolf i know i deserve that life i'm working on it knowing that people
03:57haven't seen it what's the one word you would use to describe francis's relationship with oz
04:03that's great that's fantastic yes and very true i'm at times desperate for them to heal their wounds
04:16or evolve out of you know some of this psychological dysfunction but i'm also i'm entertained by it at
04:23moments i'm horrified by it at moments it's true i know they're delightful and they're and it's
04:28heartbreaking and it's wrenching you're like whoa that is and it's demented you're going i mean
04:33weaponized is a great word it's like and that was the thing you know from the beginning what
04:36we're talking about is the idea of if we wanted to do this gangster tale that it's all about you
04:41know in a dark american dream story when you're doing a gangster tale it's always about what's driving
04:46the character and what's creating the void within that character that makes them be willing to go at
04:51any lengths to get what they want to grasp at power at money at something to look for recognition and so
04:57that's why that relationship is so key because she's the answer their relationship and their past is
05:02the answer to that hole those broken places in oz and the broken places that they both share it's
05:08really it's very messed up it's it's quite something matt is a smart guy or is he just super smart like
05:16colin i think he's super bright i mean he is fast on his feet he's like jazz he can respond in the moment
05:22and he is i think he has got an exceptional intelligence absolutely i mean i think he um that's the thing i think
05:28he's easily underestimated and that was the that was the initial sort of idea for him in the movie was
05:36this idea that here's this character that we know becomes the kingpin who when batman first encounters
05:41him and he sort of is threatening him uh oz says back to him you better watch it you know my reputation
05:49yeah i do do you and the idea is that people think he's a joke but he's no joke as we see in the
05:56series america's a hustle
06:05not that i'm complaining mike i need to ask you about the creation of oz's feet i only want to talk
06:10about oz's feet for if we could um i think it's the first time in live action that we actually get to
06:16see the feet can you elaborate on the design some of the conversations you had about them well if you
06:20think of uh the namesake penguin i mean you think immediately of a shape of a body you think of the
06:25way they walk and the way their faces and you know their their whole it's part of them you know um so
06:33you can't call a villain the penguin without having something that inspires why so i think in the show
06:40we figure out why what's creating his walk what's creating part of why they call him the penguin so
06:48we were looking at references that were kind of like oh you know i i actually thought it was really
06:52interesting that it was like right like this talks about class just in the fact that this person is a
06:58person that couldn't have gotten the surgeries that you would need for that like we're having a
07:03conversation even if we're just talking about it existing in a way it's not a fantasy birdfoot you know
07:09it's something that may resemble something non-human or something that is very human
07:15you know um a a weakness you know something that may inspire why he does certain things or may inspire
07:23uh you know his persona and what what why people call him a certain thing so uh it was interesting
07:30to do there was no weakness in my penguin pecker no there was designed there wasn't there was no
07:34weakness which we never filmed yeah oh yeah it was there man it was there i was fully anatomically
07:40correct listen sal carmine falcon is dead and i'm here now i'll be calling the shots
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