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00:009-1-1, what's your emergency?
00:07Hello? I need help. I'm trapped here.
00:12Hello?
00:13It's dark. Help.
00:15Ma'am?
00:16Please.
00:17Ma'am, are you still there?
00:22Hey, how you doing?
00:24They just put it right there.
00:25You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:30I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:33If today's not a good day.
00:34No, it's great. Not a problem. Not a problem.
00:36Great. Let's start at the beginning, then.
00:37When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:39Uh, that was a few years ago when she showed up at my door
00:43pretending to be pregnant with my grandchild.
00:45Excuse me?
00:46Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:49They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:52Very fast.
00:53Her way of, uh, breaking the news to me was to, uh, go bigger.
00:57But, um, despite that introduction, I w-I was charmed by her.
01:01She-she had, uh, walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:06She was resourceful and driven, and I-I admire that.
01:10So she and Henry are no longer together?
01:11Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but, uh, it was amicable.
01:14You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:17Yes.
01:18Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:19I take it that didn't work out.
01:21Leave her alone!
01:22Hey!
01:22It did not.
01:25And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:27What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:29Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl,
01:34you're gonna have to have an open mind.
01:38A very open mind.
01:40Hey!
01:44Ah!
01:44Police!
01:46I wonder when that happened.
01:47Oh, my God.
01:50Hello?
01:51Can you hear me?
01:53When did you get involved in the case?
01:54Uh, not immediately.
01:55Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:58They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar and slept it off in his truck,
02:02or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
02:05You know, most of the time, they show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
02:09But this wasn't like that, was it?
02:11No.
02:11After a few days of follow-up calls, we sent officers by Miss Tyranny's apartment for a wellness check.
02:17Thanks again for doing this.
02:19Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:22Let's keep this professional.
02:23Trouble in paradise?
02:24Sorry, I'm moving on.
02:29What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:31Very little.
02:32I mean, no signs of a struggle.
02:33Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment, but we did find her laptop.
02:37Hold on.
02:37Film equipment?
02:38Abigail was making a movie?
02:39Yes.
02:45We should be safe here.
02:47Why are they doing this?
02:49Go.
02:50I'll try to buy some time.
02:51Please.
03:05I promise I'll pay.
03:09I'll pay the fine.
03:12I only saw an early cut.
03:15Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:17I didn't.
03:18I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:21Oh, right.
03:22Uh, because her Hollywood dream had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:32Would you like me to take that again?
03:33I really wouldn't.
03:34When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:37Yeah, it was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:40Nasty ones.
03:41The more we investigated, it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:46Like who?
03:47Okay, thank you.
03:47Thanks, Steve.
03:49Spielberg.
03:50He's an old friend.
03:52I bet.
03:53How did you get involved with, uh, Abigail Tierney?
03:55Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to, uh, discover and, uh, nurture the next generation
04:01of, uh, unheard voices.
04:03Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:05Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:12I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star with that much, um, poise.
04:19Hell PD was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures that, uh, we pride ourselves on making.
04:25And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:27Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget, the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:31But the budget became an issue.
04:33Yeah, um, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick.
04:37But, uh, she kept changing directions.
04:40Please!
04:41The reshoot started piling up.
04:49And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:52What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:54Wait, look, there's, there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:57I'm a businessman.
04:58There's no hard feelings.
04:59Really?
05:00Because I have an email from you with the subject line,
05:02Where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
05:04Uh, okay, yeah, fine.
05:05A few hard feelings.
05:07But they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:11Those guys weren't playing around.
05:13Well, without the production company, Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:17When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video, I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:22And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:26And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:28No.
05:29I promise I'll pay.
05:31I'll pay the fund.
05:33All right, still rolling.
05:36Reset.
05:38Bravo!
05:39Bravo!
05:41So Abigail hires you to compose music for her film.
05:45What was it like to work with her?
05:46Complicated.
05:47She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:51I tried not to take it personally when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
05:55but then when she completely disappeared and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:59That must have stung.
06:00It did until I learned that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, not just me.
06:03Then I got worried about her.
06:04I do wish she paid me, though.
06:07Hold up.
06:09You didn't get paid?
06:10Did you count experience?
06:11But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:14Even though a lot of crowd funders were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled, their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:20From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:23Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips up to Pelican Bay.
06:26The prison?
06:27Yes.
06:27To visit who?
06:28A serial killer.
06:30Liam Glasser.
06:32In news that should bring some relief to the Southland, the LAPD have announced a major arrest charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser
06:40with the murder of 10 victims found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:44Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:48He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, as cover for his crimes, stashing his victims in Novak's burial ground.
06:56And it wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting to murder a new victim that we were finally able to put him behind bars.
07:03Before we start, I just want to make very clear that I'm an innocent man
07:10and the subject of an extraordinary campaign of harassment by the LAPD, particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:20You've been charged with the murder of 10 people.
07:22Those horrific allegations have not been proven in a court of law, and they never will be.
07:28You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:30Like, if you're just going to railroad me like the police, then this interview is over.
07:35Hold on, hold on.
07:36I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:38I want to talk about Abigail.
07:39Why did she come see you?
07:46To learn about Westview.
07:47Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:50He was a patient?
07:51No, no, but his vending machine company supplied the hospital, and he was in and out of there for almost two decades.
07:58It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak, and where he found another patient, Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a Petsy.
08:05He used an abandoned building at the Psych Hospital complex to torture and kill his victims.
08:10Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:12Yes.
08:13But I couldn't help her much because I've never been there myself.
08:17Obviously not.
08:17But I told her what I'd heard.
08:20That the place was haunted, which is obviously crazy.
08:23But, um, when I was a kid, I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:28He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:30Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him, and he was not a superstitious man.
08:39The thing that we couldn't understand was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection to the psych ward in the first place.
08:45It wasn't public knowledge?
08:46No, we kept those details away from the press deliberately.
08:49The only people who knew were Glasser and the police, and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
08:54Which means?
08:55What they don't tell you about making movies is that it's really boring.
08:59It's worse than surveillance.
09:01Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking about my recent case work, and it's possible I may have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:08From Abigail's notes, we gathered that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
09:13That was shortly after meeting with Glasser.
09:14Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:20So that's when she decided to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:31Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:35It started as a model of modern humane care.
09:38But what lies beneath?
09:40The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:43Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:46How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:49Some might say it's bad luck, but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:53Mm-mm.
09:54I think there's something rotten here.
09:57Original sin.
09:58And I'm gonna prove it.
10:00The footage on Abigail's hard drive shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
10:04Was that open to the public?
10:06No.
10:06After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene, the hospital put up a razor wire fence,
10:12hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance to keep intruders open.
10:16But that clearly didn't work.
10:18Clearly.
10:18So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:21Mr. Dewaler!
10:22Yeah?
10:23We're investigating the disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
10:26Ah.
10:28Hey!
10:29Hey!
10:29Hey!
10:30Stop!
10:31Hands behind your back.
10:36Hands behind your back.
10:37Okay.
10:38Hands behind your back.
10:39At first, Carl Ditwiler claimed he did nothing wrong, that he never met Abigail.
11:00This is it.
11:01This is it.
11:02But when he searched his office, it was clear he was lying.
11:07Uh, Nolan?
11:08Oh, no.
11:09Abigail had become his obsession.
11:12Yeah.
11:13Things didn't look good for Mr. Ditwiler.
11:15And based on his board, it was clear he had become obsessed with Abigail. And now maybe she rejected his advances and things went sideways.
11:24It was sobering. I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive. But I've been on the job long enough to know that the odds were against that.
11:38Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:39Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact. Uh, she was researching the abandoned psych ward for a documentary. And Carl was the night time security guard. She wanted access on the DL and she reached out and she...
11:59Slirted.
12:00Flirted.
12:01She flirted with him and he agreed to let her in.
12:03I just showed her around. I told her some stories, things that had gone on there back in the day. She was impressed. She actually asked me to help her with her documentary. Said she'd give me a credit on the film. Single card.
12:18If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:20Cause I get what it looks like. I was the last person to see her before she disappeared.
12:24How do you know that?
12:26Cause I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:30You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things to patients back in the day.
12:33Mm.
12:34I think that would be illegal now.
12:35Yeah. Yeah, I know. They used to do lobotomies. One of the orlies told me about it. He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:41You think you could introduce me to him?
12:43Uh...
12:45Yeah, I guess. Uh, just obviously, I can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:51Come on, Carl. I would never rat you out. We're friends, right?
12:57Did you hear that? We're friends.
13:01Ah!
13:05Do you hear that?
13:06What? No.
13:07That noise, it's a weird sort of beautiful sound. You really don't hear it?
13:13No. No, but this building makes all kinds of weird noises.
13:16Hey, I just gotta go back to the main building, Radio Security, and let them know if I'm at my post.
13:20You go ahead. I'm gonna go check this out.
13:22I...
13:24What did you make of the sound Abigail described?
13:26We weren't sure. I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:29It's possible that she was faking to juice up her documentary.
13:33We've actually analyzed some of the audio files from Carl's video.
13:37Isolated the low-end frequencies. Here.
13:41What is that?
13:43I was hoping you could tell me. Sounds...
13:46Bermonic.
13:47Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
13:49Not technically, no.
13:54Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear, Abigail kept searching.
13:59Sure about this?
14:00Yeah, I'll be right back.
14:02Hello? Hello?
14:04Can you hear me?
14:06And that was the last anyone had seen her.
14:09But Carl could have just turned off his camera and then killed Abigail, right?
14:12We couldn't rule him out as a suspect, but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
14:17And as we went through the footage on Abigail's laptop, we discovered that flirting with Carl wasn't her only extreme research tactic.
14:23I'm gonna start this.
14:25Should I turn into it? I'm gonna turn into it.
14:28Okay. I'm back at Westview.
14:32And if I'm gonna learn more about how the old psych ward operated, I'm gonna need to see their files.
14:37Obviously, I can't just walk around filming people, so...
14:43To camp.
14:46See?
14:48Okay.
14:51Wish me luck.
14:55Abigail had Carl lure the director away from her office so Abigail could sneak inside.
15:01Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name in Abigail's footage was definitely a shock.
15:23You both have a history with Ms. Hall, is that right?
15:25Yes. So, uh, she and I went to college together and, um, her and Tim...
15:31I'm sorry.
15:33Yeah, we used to date.
15:35Before or after you two.
15:37Okay, next question.
15:38I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
15:41No problem. I'll just ask her later.
15:44I, uh, worked in the psych ward at Westview for a year while getting my social work degree.
15:49It was, um, challenging.
15:51How so?
15:52Uh, for one thing, the, uh, patients would often arrive at the facility with, say, uh, a diagnosis of mild depression.
15:59And a week later, they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking. Eventually, they might become violent.
16:05The decompensation was sudden and acute.
16:08You're saying they would get worse, not better.
16:10Yes, and conventional treatments seem to never work.
16:13Someone suggested, uh, supernatural presence at Westview. Could that have impacted the patients?
16:18Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior doesn't mean there isn't one.
16:24Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities of modern science to discover.
16:28Or maybe it's demons?
16:31There are no demons at Westview.
16:34There are totally demons at Westview.
16:37Well, what's another explanation for everything that's happened?
16:40We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak, and most recently, uh, Ava...
16:45Maxwell.
16:46Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
16:48This man came out in a big overcoat, black mask, big knife.
16:52Hang on a moment. I know that Ava and Charlotte were never treated at Westview, so what's the connection?
16:56Oh, you didn't hear. Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager.
17:00Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
17:02I had, um, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out.
17:06My family was very concerned, so they arranged for me to receive the best care available.
17:11And did the treatment help?
17:12Not at first. I'd been experiencing a... a darkness that I had never felt before, and at first I fought it.
17:20And then I realized that struggling only made everything worse, and once I accepted it,
17:25that's when things started to get better.
17:27And I left Westview, and I finished school, and I eventually made a little life for myself.
17:32You were the nanny for the Russell family.
17:34Yes, Charlotte and I were very, very close.
17:38Well, I... I know that everyone's saying just the worst things about her right now,
17:43but in my eyes she is a poised and gifted young woman, and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
17:50As odd as it was to find that connection, it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more.
17:55Charlotte Russell convinced her friend Ava to help her stab their other friend Grace Thayer.
18:00Her actions were her own. They're not inspired by some nanny with a history of mental illness,
18:05or some demon in a computer that convinced Charlotte to do it.
18:08I'm sorry, computer demon?
18:10Zuzu is not a demon. Not a demon. It's an AI.
18:14Charlotte fed Zuzu information about herself and her friends, and based on that,
18:18Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
18:21Zuzu also helped you, isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
18:24It mentioned something to me about a watch.
18:27You spoke to it?
18:29Hello, friend of John Nolan.
18:31Hi. Should I call you Zuzu?
18:33If you want to. Do you need help with something?
18:36Perhaps a topic for a new project. Your last few have struggled.
18:40They've done fine, thanks, but I actually want to talk to you about Westview Psychiatric.
18:44John was interested in the two.
18:47That young woman Abigail went missing there.
18:49Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
18:52No, but they needed my help anyway.
18:55And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
18:58Zuzu did send me a message.
18:59What did it say?
19:00It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
19:04The number of the beast?
19:07Look, the facility had no room 666, and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:12We were at a complete dead end, and we were running out of time.
19:16Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
19:18The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
19:21Yeah, we were out of options.
19:23Until the 911 call came in.
19:25Apparently, there were suspicious noises and lights coming from this abandoned wing.
19:30So, we went to check it out.
19:36Police! Coming in!
19:37Control, 7 Adam 100. No signs of break-in here.
19:40Did RP say where they saw the light?
19:42I think the radio's blocked.
19:43I had some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
19:44Yeah.
19:45When was the last time it rained?
19:46Like a month ago.
19:47Why?
19:48Oh.
19:49Walls are wet.
19:50Yeah.
19:51What is this place?
19:52And how did you two get involved?
19:53Uh, Selena and I were about to clock out when we got the call.
19:56God, I hate this place.
19:57How many messed up things have to happen before they tear it down?
20:01Apparently, the ownership is under dispute.
20:03Westview says that they hold the deed, but...
20:05And there's this claim by this Lucifer.
20:09Lucifer?
20:12Lucifer.
20:13Oh my God.
20:14You're messing with me.
20:15Yes, I am.
20:16Come on.
20:17Let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here.
20:20Don't step in there.
20:21Oh, my God.
20:22Oh, my God.
20:23What?
20:24Oh, my God.
20:25Oh, my God.
20:26Oh, my God.
20:27Oh, my God.
20:28Oh, my God.
20:29Oh, my God.
20:30Oh.
20:31Oh, my God.
20:32Oh, my God.
20:33Did you see that?
20:45Solon's flashlight.
20:47And that?
20:49I do not know what that was.
21:03Police, show us your hands.
21:13We have permission to be here.
21:17That's not totally true.
21:19All right.
21:20Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing.
21:22You're going to have to come with us.
21:25What are you doing here?
21:26Filming an episode, sir.
21:28Ghost files.
21:29I love you guys.
21:30What is ghost files?
21:31Welcome to Ghost Files, where we take your evidence and our tools into the field to expose the supernatural.
21:38My partner, a skeptic.
21:40Myself, a believer.
21:42Both of us, truth seekers.
21:43This week, our team has traveled to Los Angeles, California, to explore a condemned psychiatric facility.
21:49Now, in 1841, this was the site of a Spanish barracks, but a massive earthquake swallowed the building, killing everyone inside.
21:56Many saw the event as retribution for Spanish crimes committed in the New World.
22:00Sure, or an earthquake happened in a region prone to earthquakes.
22:06But that's just the beginning of this site's dark history.
22:09Join us as we investigate.
22:12At that time, did you believe the facility was haunted?
22:15No.
22:15You were filming there, too.
22:18Did you experience any temperature fluctuations or anything like that?
22:21I'll ask the questions if you don't mind.
22:23We do.
22:24But this is my documentary.
22:26No, this is our YouTube show.
22:29Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce electromagnetic interference.
22:32Did you experience any trouble with your equipment?
22:35We're done here.
22:40Let's cut.
22:41Let's wrap this up.
22:45Nice.
22:46Yeah.
22:46All of you, let's go.
22:48Come on.
22:48No, no way.
22:49This is some of the best footage we've ever gotten.
22:51Listen to this.
22:52What is that?
22:52Well, it's a spirit box.
22:54Did you guys hear anything?
22:55A spirit box?
22:56The spirit box rapidly scans radio signals to create white noise through which spirits can communicate.
23:03Hello?
23:05See?
23:05It's science.
23:08Listen.
23:11Okay, okay.
23:12That's enough.
23:13Look, we got to go.
23:14No, wait, wait, wait.
23:14I heard something.
23:15Can you turn it up?
23:20Help me?
23:23That is not what I heard.
23:26Whoa, uh, uh, who do you think it is?
23:29It's feedback.
23:30It's a ghost.
23:32It was a little clearer down the hallway.
23:34Show me.
23:36Officer.
23:39So we're just going to give up on Tim and Lucy then?
23:42How long have we been in here?
23:47This room?
23:48Yeah.
23:49I don't know.
23:51We've been here for a while, right?
23:52Yeah.
23:53I mean, I don't mind.
23:55I feel good.
23:56Like, really good.
23:58Mm-hmm.
24:01Do you think we've been drugged?
24:04Oh, the wet walls.
24:08We touched them.
24:09Yeah.
24:10I hate making mistakes in front of you.
24:12Well, you've never admitted that before.
24:16Truth serum.
24:18Sodium pentothal.
24:19Yeah.
24:20You know what?
24:22We...
24:23We should keep quiet until this wears off.
24:26No.
24:27Yeah.
24:28No.
24:28It's better for us.
24:29No.
24:30What is, um, your most embarrassing memory?
24:35I mean, third grade.
24:38Uh-huh.
24:38I snuck my hamster into my classroom in my pants.
24:45I...
24:45With that kind of dad, you internalize the message that if you fail, you deserve to be punished.
25:01And without him to punish me, I...
25:05I guess I punished myself.
25:07By breaking up with me?
25:09Yep.
25:10Mm-hmm.
25:10I mean, it's kind of flattering, right?
25:13It's the worst thing I could think to do to myself.
25:15You didn't punish just yourself, though.
25:18I know.
25:20And look, if you've never fully forgiven me, I totally understand.
25:24I have already forgiven you.
25:26It's not even.
25:31Huh.
25:32I wonder when that happened.
25:34You can't put that in the documentary.
25:37The LAPD makes all body cam footage available to the public.
25:40This is obviously an exception.
25:41We were drugged.
25:43I...
25:43People...
25:43People say all sorts of things when they've been drugged.
25:46So you didn't mean what you said.
25:48What about the potential baby names you discussed?
25:52Okay.
25:52We're done here.
25:52Yeah.
25:53Why do we keep agreeing to do this?
25:54I don't know.
25:55Excuse me.
25:56Okay, you have to admit, that's a voice asking for help.
25:59Yeah, sure, I heard it.
26:00But it's one of their crew members or something pre-recorded.
26:02Were you a patient here?
26:04Is the demon with you?
26:05Somebody covered up a door.
26:07What year did you die?
26:11Stand back, guys.
26:16Okay.
26:22Watch out.
26:22Ready?
26:23Go.
26:24Oh, wow.
26:26Advocate.
26:31I've been trapped in here for so long, I thought I was going to die.
26:35Oh, my God.
26:36What is this room?
26:37Yeah, but why did they wall it all off?
26:39To trap the demon.
26:39Yeah, Bartleby, the terrifying demon king of paperwork.
26:44How did you get down here?
26:46I was exploring, following this weird, beautiful noise, when all of a sudden it got cold, like
26:53so, so cold.
26:54I could feel something coming after me, and I was scared.
26:58So I hid behind a cabinet, but the floor was wet and rusted and it collapsed.
27:03I couldn't climb back out.
27:04You fell from there?
27:05Are you okay?
27:06I think I twisted my ankle, but I feel no pain.
27:09You've been missing for two weeks.
27:11How the hell did you survive?
27:13Oh.
27:16I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag.
27:19Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug in one of the cabinets.
27:23Plus, Bob.
27:24Bob had power bars.
27:26Bob had power bars.
27:28Bob?
27:28Oh, oh, God.
27:29If it wasn't for Bob, I would have lost my mind down here.
27:34Don't be shy, Bob.
27:36Say hello.
27:39Abigail was safe, and, uh, considering what she'd been through, uh, relatively healthy.
27:46Except for her mental state.
27:48That did pose some questions.
27:51At first, I was angry, you know?
27:53Like, we're stuck down here together.
27:55At least try and have a conversation.
27:57And then I realized, Bob's just shy.
28:00He's just shy.
28:01And there's nothing wrong with that, right?
28:04Right.
28:04Did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter?
28:07She went in perfectly sane and came out best friends with the corpse.
28:12That's how possession works.
28:13You can't rule out demons.
28:15Yes, you can.
28:16Nolan, look at this.
28:17Six, six, six.
28:21Just like Zuzu said.
28:24It was a weird coincidence.
28:26It was a weird coincidence.
28:30We found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system.
28:34I don't do drugs.
28:36Does pot count?
28:37No, we're talking about powerful hallucinogens.
28:40I'm not hallucinating.
28:42Ask Bob.
28:44I had them run the test twice,
28:46and we found a similar cocktail in Officer Chen and Sergeant Bradford.
28:50Mercifully, none of the drugs were fat-soluble.
28:53Otherwise, department policy would have forced Sergeant Bradford
28:57and Officer Chen into medical retirement.
29:00Is that what killed Bob?
29:01Whatever drug they were exposed to?
29:04No.
29:04He was shot six times in the chest.
29:07Did you get an ID on the body?
29:09His name was Bob Medina,
29:10a friend reporting him missing about six months ago.
29:12He was a private investigator.
29:14What was his connection to the hospital?
29:15At first, we couldn't find one.
29:17So, to be clear,
29:19there was now a third killer associated with that location?
29:22At this point, it can't be a coincidence.
29:23There has to be something about that facility
29:25that drives people towards homicides.
29:27Uh, that's a stretch and a half.
29:29Westview is a hospital for the mentally ill and the criminally insane.
29:32Novak was a patient.
29:33Glass was there looking for a patsy.
29:35And whoever killed Bob
29:36saw an abandoned building and was like,
29:37that's a perfect place to dump a body.
29:39What?
29:43Or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it.
29:46You really believe that?
29:48I'm Catholic.
29:49I was raised on demons in the battle against Satan's minions.
29:52Well, I was raised on the scientific method.
29:55Okay, so if it's also explainable,
29:57spend the night there.
29:58I dare you.
30:00Pass.
30:01You're scared.
30:02No, I'm not scared.
30:04One could argue the drugs in the hospital are hardly surprising,
30:07even hallucinogens.
30:09Over the decades,
30:09they have been used in experimental medicine.
30:11No, true.
30:12Uh, just the type and volume is what set up.
30:15What are you doing?
30:16Conducting an interview.
30:17Could you please come back in like an hour?
30:19You said you'd talk to me for my documentary.
30:22You have a documentary?
30:24Well, it's my story.
30:24Who better to tell it?
30:25Well, no problem.
30:26I can sit down with you just as soon as we're done here.
30:28I wish.
30:29It has to be exclusive.
30:30You can't do both.
30:32She's right.
30:33It has to be exclusive.
30:34Either you're doing my doc or you're doing hers,
30:35and we have a long history.
30:37I was almost his daughter-in-law,
30:38so suck it.
30:41I'm gonna have to go with her.
30:42I'm sorry.
30:43Seriously?
30:44I have a BAFTA.
30:47Okay.
30:48Fine.
30:49Let's wrap it up.
30:50This way.
30:50The set's this way.
30:51It's better lighting over there.
30:53We got a great team.
30:54Um, we are gonna need our mic back.
30:56Yes.
30:56Oh, yeah, of course.
30:57We have our own.
30:58Sorry.
30:58I'll see you guys around.
31:00Good luck.
31:01We're gonna talk about, uh, what else I found inside the secret lab.
31:03Oh, right.
31:04Yeah.
31:04Well, uh, you did find some paperwork.
31:08Explosive paperwork.
31:09Evidence of a secret government program.
31:12Close the door softly, please.
31:13Well, I don't know that we can say that for sure.
31:15Oh, we could.
31:19My name is Abigail Tierney.
31:21I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at Westview Psychiatric.
31:25All attempts at escape have proven fruitless.
31:27If I am to die here, I leave you this footage,
31:29along with my in-process documentary,
31:32as evidence of my hunt for the truth
31:35about the evils that inhabit this accursed place.
31:40What's this?
31:44Cool.
31:45That's when I realized I'd uncovered something more haunting
31:47than any ghost or serial killer.
31:50I'd uncovered a conspiracy
31:52that went to the very highest levels of our government.
31:55The government files Abigail found detailed classified plans
32:01and methods for human experimentation.
32:04What type of experimentation?
32:06Are you familiar with MKUltra?
32:08Of course.
32:09It was a top-secret CIA program in the 50s and 60s
32:12using experimental drugs to aid in interrogation techniques.
32:15It was straight-up mind control.
32:17I mean, they used high doses of psychoactive drugs
32:19like LSD, sodium pentothal,
32:21which is also known as a truth serum.
32:23The program ran from 1953 to 1973
32:28before it was shut down following a public outcry.
32:31I mean, all the facilities were closed.
32:33There's no evidence the CIA ever used Westview
32:35as a base of operations,
32:36so what were top-secret MKUltra documents doing there?
32:40Good question.
32:41We started digging into the trobofiles Abigail had found,
32:44and one name kept popping up again and again.
32:47Dr. Julius Erickson.
32:49He was one of these psychologists contracted by the CIA
32:52to conduct experimental research.
32:55And after MKUltra shut down,
32:57he took a new job.
32:58Director of Westview.
33:00Dr. Erickson ran the hospital for 20 years,
33:03and from the notes we uncovered,
33:04it seems clear he continued his own research in private,
33:07trying to use the psychological breakthroughs from MKUltra
33:10to further his own research into mind-altering drugs.
33:14I assume he used those drugs on Westview patients?
33:16Yeah, at first.
33:17But then he started using them on himself,
33:19believing he had found the key to improving his own mind.
33:22He hadn't.
33:23And in a last moment of lucidity,
33:25Erickson decided to destroy his research.
33:27He dumped the chemicals outside the building,
33:29where they started to slowly seep into the structure.
33:31And some of the drugs were potent enough
33:33to be absorbed simply by touch,
33:35even when diluted.
33:37Erickson committed himself to Westview shortly after.
33:40Never said another word.
33:42He died in 2020.
33:43Did the CIA ever find out what Erickson was doing?
33:46Not that we found,
33:47but it's not like the agency ever returns our phone calls.
33:52Anyone who's studied the past
33:54knows that the CIA has a history of violent cover-ups.
33:58MKUltra might have become public,
33:59but that doesn't mean there still aren't secrets to protect.
34:02By uncovering Dr. Erickson's connection to Westview
34:05and, uh, discovering Bob's body,
34:08I've put myself in danger.
34:10But the best way to protect yourself
34:12is with the truth.
34:14Which brings me to Carolyn McGrath.
34:16Turns out Carolyn is the one who hired Bob
34:19to go to Westview,
34:20and I need to find out why
34:21before it's too late.
34:23I can...
34:29What the hell?
34:35We got lucky.
34:37A woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion
34:39and filmed Abigail's abduction.
34:42Thanks to them,
34:42we were able to track the vehicle.
34:44Where'd it go?
34:44Back to where it all began.
34:46Westview.
34:47Police!
34:54Dropped the weapon.
34:55On the ground.
34:57Hands on your head.
34:58Turn around.
34:59Walk towards my partner.
35:00Hands behind your back.
35:02You okay?
35:03Yeah, totally fine.
35:05Carl's going through it, though.
35:07God never really even knew my mother.
35:08Does anyone?
35:09Really?
35:10What is going on here?
35:11Well, uh, my friend Carl here
35:13was being pressured into killing me.
35:15Um, but then we got to talking, right?
35:17Yeah, and I couldn't.
35:19Yeah.
35:19We could be pressured by who.
35:21Um, my boss.
35:23Meg Davidson.
35:25Who?
35:25The current director at Westview Psychiatric.
35:30But she started working at the hospital
35:32long after Julius Erickson went mad,
35:34and she has no links to the CIA,
35:36so why would she try to kill Abigail?
35:38To cover up Bob's murder.
35:39And who killed Bob?
35:41Can you introduce yourself?
35:43Oh, yes.
35:44My name is Caroline McGrath.
35:45You hired my friend Bob Medina
35:48because you had questions
35:49about your friend Winona's treatment
35:51at Westview, right?
35:52Yes.
35:53Of course, everyone thought
35:53I was just being paranoid,
35:55but Bob didn't.
35:57And it got him killed.
35:58You work with Winona Baker, right?
36:00Yes.
36:00Um, she was hospitalized
36:02with depression by her daughter.
36:05Seemed like therapy
36:06and some medication would help her,
36:08but Winona got worse fast.
36:11Uh, lost track of reality.
36:13She exhibited signs of, uh, psychosis,
36:17paranoia, dissociation.
36:19By that point, I wondered
36:20whether a transfer to a new facility
36:22might be in her best interest.
36:23And then?
36:24Uh, the director informed me
36:26that Winona's family
36:27had gotten a judge
36:28to order a conservatorship
36:30and they wanted her to stay
36:31for good.
36:32You were suspicious.
36:34Winona always had her funks.
36:36But she wasn't crazy.
36:38Until that place
36:39made her lose her mind.
36:40And that proved to be
36:41the break you needed.
36:42Yeah, when we started
36:43looking into it,
36:44it turned out
36:45a significant number
36:46of Westview patients
36:47were wealthy.
36:48and a high percentage
36:50were ordered
36:50into conservatorship.
36:52No, uh, conservatorship
36:53is extremely difficult
36:54to get for an adult
36:55because of the potential,
36:56uh, abuse of power.
36:58It gives one party
36:59legal authority
37:00over certain aspects
37:01of another person's life,
37:02including managing
37:03all of their assets.
37:04It's like what happened
37:05to Britney Spears.
37:06Manage their assets.
37:08Rich persons speak
37:08for controlling
37:09someone else's money.
37:10Yes.
37:11And money makes people
37:13do crazy things.
37:15Like, um,
37:16poison their family member's
37:17water with a chemical
37:18cocktail so potent
37:19it has the potential
37:20to permanently damage
37:21the human psyche.
37:25Yeah.
37:26Just like that.
37:28I was supposed
37:29to inherit,
37:30but, um,
37:31after my
37:32break with reality,
37:34my dad cut me off
37:35and, uh,
37:36my brother got everything.
37:37What's everything?
37:38Oh, about, um,
37:40$12 million.
37:41Must have been hard
37:42going from that kind
37:42of wealth to nannying.
37:44Oh, no.
37:44No, it was a blessing.
37:46I, I really think
37:48that helping children
37:49was my calling.
37:51Once we found the pattern,
37:53we started interviewing
37:53some of the families.
37:54A little pressure
37:55and they cracked.
37:56And with the search warrant,
37:57we found the gun used
37:59to kill Bob Adina
38:00and director
38:00Davidson's Closet.
38:01She'd been running
38:02her scam for a decade.
38:04Turns out she was
38:05Dr. Erickson's therapist
38:06in the last years
38:08of his life.
38:08He must have told her
38:10about his experiments.
38:11In exploring his old lab,
38:13she'd uncovered
38:14the tainted water,
38:15realized its potential.
38:17Yeah, we had her on murder,
38:19fraud, elder abuse,
38:21kidnapping,
38:22attempted murder,
38:23poisoning.
38:24Miss Davidson,
38:24would you like
38:24to make a comment?
38:26You know,
38:27this might be
38:27your last chance
38:28to tell your side
38:29of the story.
38:31Look at all
38:32these people watching.
38:34The state ordered
38:35a full investigation
38:36into every conservatorship
38:38Westview ordered.
38:39God willing,
38:39the victims will get
38:40their rights and assets back.
38:42And Westview itself
38:43has been closed for good.
38:45But the lawsuits
38:46are just starting,
38:47not to mention
38:47the rest of the
38:48legal ramifications.
38:49I'm glad this is
38:50getting so much attention.
38:52These poor,
38:53abused patients
38:54can finally get justice.
38:56Do you think
38:56it could impact
38:57your case at all?
38:58Certainly gives my defense
38:59a fresh coat of paint.
39:01The jury won't listen
39:02to reason
39:03because I am innocent.
39:05Perhaps they will listen
39:06to the tragic story
39:08of a simple tradesman
39:09falling victim
39:11to a poisoned environment
39:12that chemically affected
39:15my psyche.
39:16And what did that
39:18environment make you do?
39:20Who can say?
39:21Certainly not me.
39:22I wasn't in my right mind.
39:25Yeah, the poisoned water
39:28was only found
39:29in the abandoned psych ward.
39:31No vending machines
39:31left to fill there, right?
39:33At this point,
39:34I must confess,
39:36I did go inside
39:38that abandoned ward
39:38back when I was a kid.
39:40My father's warnings,
39:42they didn't scare me away.
39:43They only made me
39:44more desperate to see.
39:47And whatever lurked inside
39:48must have infected me.
39:57Glasser's claiming
39:58that the presence
39:59of those drugs
40:00would absolve him
40:01of any alleged responsibility
40:02for the murders.
40:03There's no way
40:04that defense
40:04is going to work.
40:05We have Glasser
40:05dead to rights.
40:06Are you sure about that?
40:10Yeah.
40:12Mm-hmm.
40:12Hey, hey.
40:24Sorry, I know
40:25we talked about me
40:26not recording interviews
40:27in here,
40:28but Raj mentioned
40:29he needed a space
40:30with great acoustics.
40:32And, you know,
40:33we're shutting it down.
40:34We're shutting it down.
40:35Shut it down.
40:36Shutting it down.
40:36Copy.
40:39Hi, sorry.
40:40She said this was cool.
40:41You're going to help me
40:41get these in the van, right?
40:42Yeah, I'll be right there.
40:45Next time,
40:47handcuffs and squad cars.
40:48Yeah, totally understandable.
40:52Thanks again
40:53for going exclusive with me.
40:54Seriously,
40:55this talk is going to be huge.
40:57I hope so.
40:57You deserve something good
40:58after what you've been through.
41:00How are you holding up?
41:01Oh, I'm fine.
41:03I'm happy to have
41:04something to focus on.
41:05When I've been through
41:06some scary times,
41:07I have been guilty
41:09of using my work
41:10as my therapy,
41:11but if there's
41:12ever a time
41:13you need someone
41:13to talk to...
41:14Thank you, really,
41:15but I already have
41:16a great therapist.
41:18One with zero history
41:19at Westview.
41:20Excellent.
41:22You know,
41:23there's still something
41:23I can't figure out.
41:24How did you know
41:26that the PI
41:27was working
41:28for Caroline McGrath?
41:29Oh, Bob told me
41:31while we were
41:31stuck in the lab.
41:33He got chatty
41:34once he opened up.
41:35I have that effect
41:36on people.
41:36We have to come back
41:40because our job
41:41isn't finished.
41:41This hospital
41:42has housed killers,
41:43evil experiments,
41:44and perhaps
41:44the supernatural.
41:46Our job as investigators
41:47is to collect
41:48and present questions
41:49and possibilities.
41:51Interpretation,
41:52however,
41:53solely belongs with you.
41:55Did Westview really...
41:58Should we check that out?
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