- 2 days ago
Hello, welcome to the 5th anniversary of Unus Annus! (Wait, isn’t this technically a death anniversary?) They made a special livestream for the occasion and even hinted at a possible revival. By the way, I hate livestreams as they make my job so much harder. It took me some time to get this all set up, thank my pc for that…
But much like the 12 hour stream, this will be chopped up into a few parts. Hopefully without any problems this time.
ALSO, I know that ads have been playing on my videos. I don’t know when that started but I didn’t implement that. My goal is to have all these Unus Annus videos without any ads and unfortunately I don’t know how to get rid of them. I’ve looked online for a solution and I couldn’t find any. If you have any ideas on how to remove ads, please leave a comment. It bugs me that this is a thing now.
Original Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf_MQ4-JhBk&t=443s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5yNRMAvspc&t=2475s
Originally uploaded to both Markiplier and Ethan Nestor’s channel as a dual livestream on November 13, 2025
Original descriptions:
Mark's- After 5 years... the casket finally opens.
Ethan's- Five years goes by quick doesn't it? Let's take a peek into that casket...
But much like the 12 hour stream, this will be chopped up into a few parts. Hopefully without any problems this time.
ALSO, I know that ads have been playing on my videos. I don’t know when that started but I didn’t implement that. My goal is to have all these Unus Annus videos without any ads and unfortunately I don’t know how to get rid of them. I’ve looked online for a solution and I couldn’t find any. If you have any ideas on how to remove ads, please leave a comment. It bugs me that this is a thing now.
Original Links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf_MQ4-JhBk&t=443s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5yNRMAvspc&t=2475s
Originally uploaded to both Markiplier and Ethan Nestor’s channel as a dual livestream on November 13, 2025
Original descriptions:
Mark's- After 5 years... the casket finally opens.
Ethan's- Five years goes by quick doesn't it? Let's take a peek into that casket...
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00:05:00Did we make it?
00:05:01Oh, we gotta go, Mark.
00:05:02I was just trying to time it.
00:05:03Did we make it, though?
00:05:04I think we did.
00:05:05Yeah, five years?
00:05:07Are you sure?
00:05:08We don't have a clock.
00:05:09We just had ticking.
00:05:10I think so.
00:05:11Okay.
00:05:12Okay.
00:05:12Okay.
00:05:12Okay.
00:05:12Come on, Mark.
00:05:21Come on, Mark.
00:05:21Let's go.
00:05:21Let's go.
00:05:22Let's go.
00:05:26Oh, we got it.
00:05:27Oh, we got it.
00:05:38Hello?
00:05:38Hello?
00:05:39Hello?
00:05:40Hello.
00:05:40If we're not muted, hopefully.
00:05:42Are we here?
00:05:43Are we here?
00:05:44Wow.
00:05:45Are we?
00:05:46Five years, gang.
00:05:47Five years, gang.
00:05:50Five years.
00:05:52Five years.
00:05:53Five years.
00:05:54And boy, howdy.
00:05:55Do we have a plan for you?
00:05:59Do we?
00:06:00Oh, you know.
00:06:03All the plans.
00:06:04From the beginning, we had this all-in-sore, surprise, surprise.
00:06:09We've been watching her every move.
00:06:10Mm-hmm.
00:06:11As always.
00:06:11We've been calculating the outcomes, the multiplicity of the-
00:06:15We've been going to-
00:06:15All the choices of the universe.
00:06:17I can't believe people didn't see the hints.
00:06:19They didn't see the hints anywhere.
00:06:20Well, some people didn't.
00:06:21Yeah.
00:06:22There were a select few.
00:06:23A beautiful, intelligent, perfect few-
00:06:26Yes.
00:06:26That saw the path, what we intended, what we really meant.
00:06:30Yeah.
00:06:31Everything about it.
00:06:32Welcome, gang.
00:06:34And only the ones who got it are here.
00:06:36Yep.
00:06:37That's right.
00:06:38So you're part of a select few, you beautiful beauts.
00:06:42Yes.
00:06:43Yes, exactly.
00:06:43Yeah, we've actually been building this entire skyscraper we're in.
00:06:47We're in the first floor of a skyscraper, of course.
00:06:50We've been building it all this time with our own hands.
00:06:53We filmed the entire process, of course.
00:06:55We won't release it to you.
00:06:57Nope.
00:06:57Because you don't deserve it as perfect as you are.
00:07:00Why would you think they used it to deserve it?
00:07:01Come on.
00:07:01Come on.
00:07:05Oh, man.
00:07:07And guess what?
00:07:07We don't even just have this.
00:07:09We've got this, too.
00:07:13And we've got that.
00:07:17But wait.
00:07:19We have one more.
00:07:21But wait.
00:07:27Cut back to the wide.
00:07:29What if Amy was here?
00:07:31Oh.
00:07:32Oh.
00:07:34Hello.
00:07:35Shit.
00:07:36In the years, technology has advanced so far.
00:07:40So far.
00:07:41To be able to allow...
00:07:42Are we...
00:07:43We're not needed, right?
00:07:44We're here, right?
00:07:45Yeah, exactly.
00:07:45I think we're around.
00:07:47So, is it time to unleash all of the secrets that we've been in store?
00:07:53Yeah.
00:07:53The five years of videos that we've been doing every day since...
00:07:58Yeah.
00:07:59For Quintus Annus.
00:08:01Mm-hmm.
00:08:01Mm-hmm.
00:08:02Everybody's getting ready for Quintus Annus.
00:08:031,826 videos are dropping in three...
00:08:073, 2, 1!
00:08:11What if...
00:08:11That would be so crazy if we could bring it back.
00:08:14Bring the channel back.
00:08:15Uh-huh.
00:08:15Yeah.
00:08:16You know?
00:08:17But we didn't.
00:08:17And it's...
00:08:19That's not true.
00:08:20Yeah, it is.
00:08:20And if you thought for a moment that it was, you're a fool.
00:08:24You...
00:08:25Cut to this one.
00:08:26You're a fool.
00:08:27Quick.
00:08:28Quick.
00:08:28Cut to this one.
00:08:29The other one.
00:08:30Yeah.
00:08:31You're a fool.
00:08:31If you thought that we would be doing anything like that, you're a fool.
00:08:38Well, okay.
00:08:38Well, we are here doing an Unus on a stream, literally.
00:08:43We are.
00:08:44As.
00:08:44Yeah.
00:08:45But we don't have 1,000 whatever videos.
00:08:48No, we don't.
00:08:49And we didn't have 1,000 videos before.
00:08:51We had 367 videos.
00:08:54Yes.
00:08:54Huh?
00:08:55Yeah.
00:08:55367.
00:08:56Oh, I guess, yeah.
00:08:57Yeah.
00:08:57Yeah.
00:08:57There was, like, the intro videos and whatnot.
00:08:59Anyway, so, we have a lot to talk about.
00:09:03We do.
00:09:04Should we tell them what we're doing?
00:09:06I mean, it's not.
00:09:08Yeah, yeah.
00:09:08Go ahead.
00:09:09Okay.
00:09:10Hey, stay on this one, though.
00:09:12Or do this one.
00:09:15Ah, the other one.
00:09:17So, every year, for the last five years, we have done a little video.
00:09:25The first one was us, like, finding the coffin again.
00:09:30Yeah, yeah.
00:09:30Putting down, oh, it's a rose.
00:09:33Second one was going back to it.
00:09:37Yeah.
00:09:38No, the second one was going, first one, we slow motion walked up, put down the rose, said
00:09:42some words.
00:09:43Second one, we came back, said some words again, an update, just straight up.
00:09:46And then the third one was, like, hey, it's been a while, but filmed kind of off angle.
00:09:51And then the fourth.
00:09:51No, no, no.
00:09:52The third one was when we had both of our thing.
00:09:56Or was that the second one?
00:09:57When did we have both of our angles?
00:09:59Oh, that's right.
00:10:00The second one was us both.
00:10:01And then the third one was going back, being like, hey, it's been a while, but kind of off
00:10:04angle.
00:10:04The fourth one was, we didn't show up at all.
00:10:07Yeah.
00:10:07And then there was a, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, definitely didn't write
00:10:11ourselves into a corner of the way.
00:10:13It's all part of the plan.
00:10:15It's all part of the plan.
00:10:16All part of the plan.
00:10:17All part of the incredible plan.
00:10:19All part of the incredible plan.
00:10:21But today, we thought, because it's five, five years since the death of Unusonus, we'd
00:10:29just sit, we'd talk about, you know, what it was like doing that, go over old memories,
00:10:35and go over new memories and new life.
00:10:38Yeah.
00:10:39And whatnot.
00:10:40Can I admit something about this as well?
00:10:42This, all this came together really quickly from you and Amy just sprinting.
00:10:47The last, like, 24 hours.
00:10:50Yeah.
00:10:50Yeah.
00:10:51Because we didn't think that, well, I mean, I think a week ago, we didn't really think
00:10:55we were going to, Amy.
00:10:56Amy.
00:10:57Amy.
00:10:57Yes.
00:10:58I think, like, a week ago, we didn't really think that we were going to be doing this.
00:11:02Well, I figured it would come together, because it always came together, right?
00:11:05Yeah, yeah.
00:11:06You had a plan.
00:11:07But given, like, things that were happening in the moment and how busy things were, it
00:11:11was, it's kind of shocking that we were here.
00:11:13But as soon as it started moving, it felt like we were back at Unusonus days.
00:11:19It really did.
00:11:20Like, the last I was talking about this with my therapist this morning, I was like, it's
00:11:26the Unusonus death-aversary today.
00:11:29I was like, yeah, it's been really nice.
00:11:30Like, the last couple days, we've been prepping for the stream.
00:11:33And I said that.
00:11:34I was like, it feels kind of like what it felt like when we were in it.
00:11:38And it was, it's kind of nice.
00:11:40Yeah.
00:11:40I don't know.
00:11:41It's like, it's like when, when someone is pregnant and they give birth and it's crazy
00:11:48pain.
00:11:48And then later on, they forget.
00:11:50And they go, I wasn't that bad.
00:11:52And you want to make a baby again.
00:11:53Yeah.
00:11:54It's kind of like that, where I've forgotten the pain.
00:11:57And so I'm like, I could do that again.
00:11:59Yeah.
00:12:00And let me tell you, I have not forgotten the pain.
00:12:03I have, you know, I thought I would have so many more projects under my bill to this
00:12:07point.
00:12:07The past three years have been nothing but iron lung.
00:12:10And let me tell you, three years is so much worse than one.
00:12:13I would love to go back at Unusonus again.
00:12:16Yeah.
00:12:18And so that's why we're not.
00:12:21No, no, no.
00:12:22It's not happening again.
00:12:23It's, it's been, especially the past few weeks, you know, it's been really refreshing
00:12:27to do this.
00:12:28I, I, I, for many who like don't know, like Henry passed away a couple of weeks ago.
00:12:36And so it's been really, really hard to do anything, especially as it's coming into
00:12:42the, the last moments with the movie.
00:12:45You know, it's, it's just been really hard to get going in the morning and especially
00:12:51in the evening, but it's been, uh, every time we were doing something like this, like I
00:12:56was, I was in, in my office, like doing the work that I didn't want to do, just kind of
00:13:01just sitting there really.
00:13:02But as soon as it was like, it's time to do the prep for the stream.
00:13:05It's like, I get this weird, like surge of energy, like suddenly this joy came out and
00:13:09I was just like, man, I, I love the making of this huge endeavor, but the, the actual
00:13:15creativity was so long ago.
00:13:19And then it's just all this business and fiddly work.
00:13:23This stuff is so fast paced, like, yeah, yeah, we did, we set stuff up for this 15 minutes
00:13:29before it started and it was like, that's funny.
00:13:31Let's do that.
00:13:31You know?
00:13:31Yeah.
00:13:32Yeah.
00:13:32Oh, did you like the intro video?
00:13:35We filmed that yesterday.
00:13:39Uh-huh.
00:13:39Yeah.
00:13:42We filmed it yesterday.
00:13:44And then in such, it was so nice in such honest, honest fashion, we came in here.
00:13:50We were like, all right, what are we doing?
00:13:52Uh, like, yeah, I guess we'll, we'll get in the coffin and then we'll just like three,
00:13:56two, one, and then we'll burst out and then we'll just kind of get up and then we'll go
00:14:00like, okay, time to go.
00:14:02And it's just like, I don't know.
00:14:04It's so nice being, uh, like the three of us are just on the same page where it's like,
00:14:09oh yeah, no, it'll, it'll work.
00:14:11It always does.
00:14:12It was two takes and both would have been good.
00:14:15Yeah.
00:14:16It, it, it really, you know, did miss a lot.
00:14:18Uh, too bad I hated you after it ended.
00:14:21I know.
00:14:22Yeah.
00:14:22Isn't that crazy?
00:14:23Took your five years.
00:14:24I know.
00:14:24Take it back in the same room again.
00:14:26I know.
00:14:26It's been so long.
00:14:27We've had to do it separate.
00:14:28I couldn't stop punching you before the stream started, you know, but as soon as it started,
00:14:32you know, I don't want my reputation to be burned this close to the release, you know.
00:14:35Exactly.
00:14:36I don't want to lose this.
00:14:37You can't.
00:14:38Uh, the drama of dams that I've been plugging, you know, have been just about to explode.
00:14:44And it has been really nice, like, in the last, yeah, well, in the last 24 hours, just
00:14:50seeing each other for the first time again, since it was honest, because of the deep hatred
00:14:55that you had towards you.
00:14:56Resentment.
00:14:57Yeah.
00:14:57The resentment, the everything.
00:14:59I mean, I just couldn't even believe you would steal my spotlight for a single moment.
00:15:03And having to endure that for a year took me five years to recover emotionally.
00:15:08I did not see a therapist at all, actually.
00:15:10No.
00:15:10You just saw yourself in the mirror.
00:15:12Yeah.
00:15:12Yeah.
00:15:14You were right.
00:15:15He was wrong.
00:15:16Yeah.
00:15:17I mean, this is what I did.
00:15:20You were right.
00:15:21He was wrong.
00:15:22You can't just laugh when it cuts to a close-up.
00:15:25That's not nice.
00:15:27It's so funny.
00:15:31It's so funny.
00:15:31It's so funny.
00:15:31It's so funny.
00:15:31It's so funny.
00:15:32It's so funny.
00:15:32There's nothing wrong.
00:15:33Look at how much more bounce I get from my white shirt.
00:15:35And look how much not I get from my shirt.
00:15:38I'm seeping into the shadows.
00:15:39Dark and evil.
00:15:40Meanwhile, good, good person.
00:15:43If you're wondering why they're not wearing their suits, it's obviously because the year's
00:15:47over, and that's why they're not wearing them, and not because.
00:15:51Well, we weren't going to wear them anyway, were we?
00:15:54I don't know.
00:15:54Were we?
00:15:54There was a debate about the jacket, and, you know, couldn't.
00:15:59The suit's gone.
00:16:00Mark's suit just walked off one day.
00:16:01It disappeared.
00:16:02It didn't walk off.
00:16:03The bag it was in is empty?
00:16:04You just had it.
00:16:04You wore it at your wedding.
00:16:07That was not the same suit, everybody.
00:16:09That was not the same suit.
00:16:11Clearly not.
00:16:12It was double-breasted.
00:16:14Double-breasted.
00:16:15Your Unis Anis suit.
00:16:17No.
00:16:17Yes, you wore your Unis Anis suit, and I officiated the wedding.
00:16:21That's how I remember it.
00:16:23Do you remember me officiating your wedding?
00:16:25It was so beautiful.
00:16:25The words that I said when I wed you.
00:16:28Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:16:29Say them again.
00:16:30They were so beautiful.
00:16:30Yeah, yeah, please.
00:16:31I bring you guys on in here today.
00:16:34Go on.
00:16:35Kiss.
00:16:36Go on.
00:16:37Oh, man.
00:16:37I'm crying right now.
00:16:39Yeah.
00:16:39Yeah.
00:16:40Too bad it had to be a video call, because we couldn't be in the same room, obviously.
00:16:43It's a hatred.
00:16:44Yeah.
00:16:44Yes.
00:16:45When's glue two?
00:16:46Oh, man.
00:16:47Glue two?
00:16:48Could be soon.
00:16:49Once Iron Long.
00:16:50Four gallons of Elmer's glue.
00:16:52Once all your blood stuff is done, then we can bring back in the glue.
00:16:55Yeah.
00:16:56Oh, man.
00:16:57It's so close.
00:16:58So close.
00:16:58I have so much to do before.
00:17:01The fact that this stream is happening is crazy, honestly.
00:17:04Yes, exactly.
00:17:04You guys got, I mean.
00:17:06Let me tell you.
00:17:06These weeks are not the weeks.
00:17:10Like, it's not.
00:17:11But here we are.
00:17:12Here we are?
00:17:13And I feel like none of you saying, like, none of you being like,
00:17:16I'm so busy is ever, like, you looking for sympathy from anybody.
00:17:20I think it's just genuinely, like, with losing Henry and everything,
00:17:24and it's like, okay, and now we have to do, like, 14-hour days
00:17:26for the next God knows how long minimum, you know, next couple months.
00:17:29But it's like, I don't know.
00:17:33It feels like an interesting intersection to me of, like, grief and creativity.
00:17:37Yeah.
00:17:37I don't know.
00:17:38Absolutely.
00:17:39I mean, if you think about it with Unus Anus, like,
00:17:41going into COVID, and man, I can't believe COVID's still locked down, man.
00:17:47Still here.
00:17:48We've been locked down since the end.
00:17:49We've been in this room.
00:17:50Yes.
00:17:51Just kidding.
00:17:52In our skyscraper that we built.
00:17:52He didn't, he hasn't hated me for five years.
00:17:55We've been in this room for five years.
00:17:57Exactly.
00:17:58But it was funny, because when, you know, well, not funny.
00:18:02It was actually the opposite of funny, I guess.
00:18:03But when it was happening, you know, in a way, we were sad,
00:18:08because we had all these plans and all these ambitions.
00:18:11And we touched on that, and that became part of the art.
00:18:14At the end, we did those, like, basically short films
00:18:17where we were talking about how it wasn't perfect, but it never is,
00:18:21and you still move forward.
00:18:22And so, you know, even, even I'm still trying to remember lessons
00:18:28that I thought I learned that were engraved in my bones from Anus,
00:18:32and it's so easy to, to forget them.
00:18:36It's weird that it's already five years from the death day.
00:18:42It both, it both, it's one of those things where it's like,
00:18:45it feels like it was yesterday, but it also feels like it was 40 years ago.
00:18:49Yeah.
00:18:50Like, I don't know, it's very, it's very interesting to think back on that time.
00:18:57And I always think back on that, and I'm like, man, how did we do that?
00:19:01That was so much.
00:19:02Yeah, that was.
00:19:03And you guys were doing regular videos then, too,
00:19:05at least to some regularity through that.
00:19:08I don't know how regular it was, I don't remember, but.
00:19:10It was semi-regular as much as we could.
00:19:12More regular than it is.
00:19:14More regular than it was now for me, for sure.
00:19:17And, man, there's so many reasons that I could explain,
00:19:21and I think now I can explain a little bit of what's going on,
00:19:25because, I mean, it wasn't all, but there were occasions with,
00:19:28we can talk about it more, like, when we're going to, Amy and I,
00:19:32I'm just ringing this way.
00:19:35You're a little doll there.
00:19:36I can be the streamy.
00:19:37Amy and I, we're also going to talk about us getting married,
00:19:42and that, and the movie, and tons of stuff.
00:19:45We don't want to make that the main focus of the stream.
00:19:47Make Ethan our third wheel.
00:19:48Are you going to talk about our Unusonus dance at the wedding?
00:19:51Obviously.
00:19:52Ooh.
00:19:53We had our throuple dance.
00:19:58No, but you did, Ethan did screw up at our wedding.
00:20:01He did introduce Mark's mom.
00:20:03Mom.
00:20:04Okay.
00:20:05Okay.
00:20:06So, I didn't officiate the wedding.
00:20:09I don't know where people got that from.
00:20:10But I did, like, emcee, kind of.
00:20:13So I was the person that, like, introduced them for the first time,
00:20:16and they walked into their room for their thing.
00:20:19And then I, like, announced, like, the dances and stuff.
00:20:21He's good on a mic, we thought.
00:20:23You had five lines.
00:20:23I had five.
00:20:24Which was, you know, for the first time,
00:20:26then for the second time,
00:20:27and then for the third time,
00:20:28and then the father and daughter.
00:20:31We thought it was funny every time we came out
00:20:32if Ethan had to do,
00:20:33for the third time.
00:20:34It was very funny.
00:20:35No, it wasn't for the third time.
00:20:37For the very third time.
00:20:40Yeah, it was very good.
00:20:42Yeah, so.
00:20:43But he messed up because he said, you know,
00:20:46the father-daughter dance,
00:20:48and then you said,
00:20:49the father-son dance.
00:20:51The father-son dance.
00:20:53Very much like,
00:20:55hey, Siri,
00:20:57call me dance.
00:20:59The father-son dance,
00:21:01and then I immediately was like,
00:21:03I mean, whatever, go.
00:21:05And then later,
00:21:06later when, like,
00:21:09when the normies got to dance,
00:21:11your mom walked by me,
00:21:13and I was like,
00:21:14oh, are you going to save a dance for me later?
00:21:16And she went,
00:21:16no, you called me a man.
00:21:18Very funny.
00:21:23That was very funny.
00:21:25Yeah.
00:21:26But we'll talk more in detail,
00:21:28Amy and I.
00:21:29Again, this is not me being like,
00:21:30oh, we're so busy,
00:21:31but, like, hand over heart,
00:21:33we intended,
00:21:34Mark and I,
00:21:34to do a live stream
00:21:35after we got engaged.
00:21:36Yeah.
00:21:37And now, what,
00:21:39a year and a half or two years?
00:21:40How long it's been?
00:21:41A long time has passed.
00:21:42Did we plan to do it after we engaged?
00:21:43We were going to,
00:21:44because we didn't tell anybody
00:21:45for a little bit,
00:21:46and then we were like,
00:21:47okay, we'll eventually go,
00:21:47we have to say something,
00:21:48and we're like,
00:21:48maybe,
00:21:49because I was like,
00:21:50the idea of a main channel video
00:21:51makes me want to vomit.
00:21:52It made me very, very anxious.
00:21:54Yeah.
00:21:54Not the vibe.
00:21:55But then it was like,
00:21:56well, I was going to jump on Power Wash, pals.
00:21:58That was the idea.
00:21:59Yeah, yeah.
00:21:59But then all of a sudden,
00:22:00people are going to engage
00:22:01and go on a podcast,
00:22:02and I don't know.
00:22:03Yeah.
00:22:03I cringe very quickly,
00:22:04and I'm like,
00:22:04I don't know if I want to be.
00:22:06Yeah, yeah.
00:22:06So, honestly,
00:22:07this is kind of a cathartic moment
00:22:08to be able to just talk casually.
00:22:10There's so few moments
00:22:12where there was, like,
00:22:13the occasion,
00:22:14the aligning of the stars,
00:22:16or whatever,
00:22:16and so this being the five-year,
00:22:19even though technically
00:22:20it's the worst time for work,
00:22:22or personal life in general,
00:22:24it's weirdly the best time
00:22:26because of all the things
00:22:27that have happened.
00:22:29I feel like doing stuff like this,
00:22:33specifically with Unusans,
00:22:34there's, like,
00:22:34a weird, like,
00:22:36I feel like you guys
00:22:37probably feel this,
00:22:38where there's a weird, like,
00:22:39safety with it.
00:22:40You know,
00:22:41where if it was anything else,
00:22:42it would be way more stressful,
00:22:44but because it's Unusans,
00:22:45it's like,
00:22:46oh, there's a weird kind of,
00:22:47like, safety net.
00:22:48Yeah.
00:22:49Also, it's, like,
00:22:50for me,
00:22:51the setbacking and all of it
00:22:52and the setup is very familiar
00:22:53because it's not a movie,
00:22:54so it's not intimidating.
00:22:55It's, like,
00:22:55it's YouTube,
00:22:56and you don't do YouTube.
00:22:57These are the chairs.
00:22:58These are the chairs
00:22:59that we did the Honest video,
00:23:04you know,
00:23:04where we were Honest.
00:23:05Yeah, where we were Honest.
00:23:06We did a lot of Unusans videos
00:23:08in these chairs.
00:23:08It was not the final chairs.
00:23:11We don't know where those are.
00:23:13Were there?
00:23:13Were there?
00:23:13Yeah, there was, like,
00:23:14a white one in a corner.
00:23:15Oh, yeah,
00:23:16I think they rented chairs
00:23:16for that, yeah.
00:23:18Yeah.
00:23:18You got to go, too.
00:23:19No, we feel I'm doing
00:23:19as Honest in the house.
00:23:20I forgot about that.
00:23:22Yeah, let's recap everything
00:23:23that we've done since then.
00:23:25Since then?
00:23:26Yeah, because you started right away.
00:23:29Well, started right away,
00:23:30but you wanted to do something.
00:23:32Well, yeah, God,
00:23:32I need to,
00:23:33someone needs to make a timeline.
00:23:34Man.
00:23:35Doing my show?
00:23:36Yeah.
00:23:37Yeah, I went on tour.
00:23:40Let's see.
00:23:41Okay, so Unusans ended
00:23:42November of 2020,
00:23:44and I went on tour
00:23:46in March of 2021.
00:23:51I can't remember.
00:23:54I guess it was,
00:23:55no, it was,
00:23:58I don't remember exactly
00:24:00when it was.
00:24:00It was probably December of,
00:24:05wait, no, when was that?
00:24:07You started it,
00:24:08and it took you a while
00:24:09to get the idea together.
00:24:10Yeah, because it,
00:24:12I'm trying to think now,
00:24:13because November 21st, 2021,
00:24:16was when I did the tester show.
00:24:18And then,
00:24:19I guess it was,
00:24:20That was a year later.
00:24:21Yeah.
00:24:22So that's when I did
00:24:23the tester show,
00:24:24and then March of 2022,
00:24:27March 21st, 2022 Toronto.
00:24:29Yeah, is when I went on tour.
00:24:31And then I wrote the show
00:24:33for,
00:24:34like,
00:24:36eight months to a year-ish,
00:24:38because after the tester show,
00:24:40I, like, polished it
00:24:41and stuff like that.
00:24:43That feels like such a long time.
00:24:44I mean, it was.
00:24:45It does, yeah.
00:24:45Doesn't that feel further back,
00:24:46though, than Unus Onus?
00:24:47Yeah, it does.
00:24:48That's like space feels,
00:24:49space was after.
00:24:50Space was after.
00:24:51And it feels sooner.
00:24:52I have a funny story
00:24:53to talk about that
00:24:54that I haven't really talked about,
00:24:55but I think I can,
00:24:56because YouTube originals
00:24:57doesn't exist anymore.
00:24:58Oh, yeah.
00:24:58So I can,
00:24:59I can,
00:24:59I can talk about this.
00:25:01Can I tell this?
00:25:02You're my favorite.
00:25:02Yeah, yeah.
00:25:03Okay, so
00:25:03during the last parts
00:25:05of Unus Onus,
00:25:07or, like,
00:25:07the six months
00:25:08leading up to the end,
00:25:10I was supposed
00:25:11to have already started
00:25:12filming space.
00:25:15Uh-huh.
00:25:15But COVID had happened,
00:25:17and I was telling them constantly,
00:25:19I don't think
00:25:20that's possible
00:25:22because of
00:25:23gestures to the world.
00:25:25And the precedent
00:25:26hadn't been set for,
00:25:27like, you know,
00:25:27after,
00:25:28by the time that we filmed
00:25:29in space,
00:25:30all of the protocols
00:25:31had been set,
00:25:31and there were people,
00:25:32like, people that we worked with
00:25:33who were in production
00:25:35who pivoted their jobs
00:25:37to, like,
00:25:37doing COVID testing,
00:25:38basically.
00:25:38Yeah, I guess some people
00:25:39just had to adapt
00:25:40and fill the roles.
00:25:40Because somebody had to
00:25:40do that job.
00:25:41Absolutely.
00:25:42And so,
00:25:43but at the time,
00:25:46YouTube was pissed.
00:25:49YouTube was livid
00:25:50that I was,
00:25:51not YouTube as a whole,
00:25:53some certain people
00:25:54at YouTube
00:25:54was livid
00:25:55that I was slacking off
00:25:57and not doing the show.
00:25:59And I kept telling them,
00:26:00I'm doing something
00:26:01really important
00:26:03on YouTube
00:26:04with a YouTube channel.
00:26:06That you're not paying me to do.
00:26:07that you're not paying me to do,
00:26:09but it's,
00:26:10I feel like this is an art piece
00:26:11that you should celebrate.
00:26:12I will tell you,
00:26:13YouTube was not supportive
00:26:16of Unus Anus
00:26:17because,
00:26:18because they were so mad at me
00:26:21for not doing space
00:26:23at the time
00:26:23they wanted me to do it.
00:26:24I had producers
00:26:25from YouTube Originals
00:26:26that were calling up
00:26:27my producers,
00:26:29screaming at them,
00:26:31saying,
00:26:32you need to control Mark.
00:26:34And thank,
00:26:35fuck,
00:26:35my producers were like,
00:26:36do you know Mark?
00:26:37I don't control him.
00:26:40What would they do?
00:26:41Like,
00:26:42you can't go into production.
00:26:43That's the crazy thing.
00:26:45It's like,
00:26:45and it's like,
00:26:46the script for Space
00:26:47was so far beyond
00:26:49what they could even understand.
00:26:50So when I actually
00:26:51handed over the script,
00:26:52they didn't read it.
00:26:54It was 380 something pages
00:26:56of just fucking nonsense.
00:26:5889 different videos
00:26:59with a bajillion
00:27:00branching paths.
00:27:01Because you get notes back
00:27:02that were nonsense
00:27:02and you're like,
00:27:03yeah,
00:27:03if you wrapped your head
00:27:05around this
00:27:05then you'd have
00:27:06that it was a stupid note.
00:27:07Yeah,
00:27:07yeah.
00:27:08So,
00:27:08I mean,
00:27:08I don't remember
00:27:09even who this was.
00:27:10I don't remember that happening.
00:27:11Yeah.
00:27:11Well,
00:27:11because I didn't talk about it really
00:27:13because it's like,
00:27:13it didn't matter.
00:27:14And that's why they,
00:27:16when we deleted the channel,
00:27:18it was funny.
00:27:18Should we talk about that?
00:27:19That's kind of funny.
00:27:20It's funny.
00:27:21Let's get it all out.
00:27:22This is not like,
00:27:24oh,
00:27:24what was,
00:27:25oh,
00:27:25don't feel bad for us.
00:27:26It's simply a funny story.
00:27:27Okay.
00:27:28We don't know
00:27:29the number
00:27:29for sure.
00:27:31It was hard to tell
00:27:32because the last month
00:27:34of Unusana,
00:27:35obviously,
00:27:36all you guys,
00:27:36everybody was trying
00:27:37to watch a video.
00:27:38Yeah.
00:27:38Everyone was trying
00:27:38to cram it in.
00:27:39Views,
00:27:40unbelievable.
00:27:41Yeah.
00:27:41Views that month.
00:27:42So we had,
00:27:43we had,
00:27:44I think,
00:27:44160-ish million views,
00:27:48maybe more than that.
00:27:49In the month?
00:27:50In the month.
00:27:51I think we got a billion.
00:27:53Probably more than,
00:27:54it was,
00:27:55it was a lot.
00:27:56I have no idea.
00:27:56Like everyone was trying
00:27:57to cram it in.
00:27:57Because like,
00:27:57Social Blade isn't accurate.
00:27:59Yeah.
00:27:59I have no idea.
00:28:00Yeah.
00:28:01It was the kind of numbers
00:28:02that YouTube verifies
00:28:03on the back end,
00:28:04so it's like hard to say.
00:28:05This is all just to give context
00:28:06of what went down.
00:28:08Yeah.
00:28:08Again,
00:28:09this is not a woe is me
00:28:10moment.
00:28:10No, it's fine.
00:28:11We were fine.
00:28:12As soon as we heard
00:28:12that that's the way
00:28:13it was going to be,
00:28:14well,
00:28:14the email was very abrupt,
00:28:15but we were like,
00:28:16I guess that's what it is.
00:28:17I'm not going to.
00:28:17I don't know why
00:28:18we didn't go back
00:28:19to them being like,
00:28:21are you sure there's nothing?
00:28:22So the way that YouTube works,
00:28:23right?
00:28:23Yeah.
00:28:23You watch a YouTube video
00:28:24and ad plays.
00:28:26YouTube gets the money first
00:28:28and then they take their cut of that
00:28:30and then they give it to you.
00:28:32So the ads have already played
00:28:34on all of these videos
00:28:35throughout the month.
00:28:36We didn't get a check
00:28:37from YouTube
00:28:38on the last month of Unusana
00:28:40because they said,
00:28:41well,
00:28:42you stopped midway
00:28:43through the month
00:28:44so we can't pay you.
00:28:45It's like you deleted the channel
00:28:46so on our back end
00:28:47we can't do anything about it.
00:28:49Yeah, because they couldn't,
00:28:49they don't own the back end.
00:28:50It's a big enough
00:28:50goddamn number.
00:28:52Yeah.
00:28:52That money is sitting somewhere.
00:28:55Legitimately,
00:28:56they were just like,
00:28:57no,
00:28:57you're not getting that
00:28:58last month.
00:28:58And of course,
00:29:00again,
00:29:00not woe is us.
00:29:01It's just,
00:29:02it's funny
00:29:02because I have to assume
00:29:05that if we were in any kind
00:29:07of good graces with YouTube
00:29:08because of how mad they were at me
00:29:09that they would have made an effort
00:29:10to do something about that.
00:29:12YouTube,
00:29:12you have that data
00:29:13in your back end.
00:29:14You should go through
00:29:15and you should just say,
00:29:17hey.
00:29:18It's fine.
00:29:19I'd rather just be able
00:29:20to talk about this in the open
00:29:22and be able to shit on them
00:29:23a little bit.
00:29:24It is crazy that they did that.
00:29:25Yeah, it is,
00:29:25it is crazy.
00:29:26And I've always been
00:29:27the biggest YouTube defender.
00:29:28I still believe,
00:29:29it's lesser now,
00:29:30but I still believe
00:29:31it is a place
00:29:32where creativity can be out,
00:29:34like put out there.
00:29:35I believe that TikTok
00:29:36is pushing ahead
00:29:37or is already ahead
00:29:38in terms of like
00:29:39the instantaneousness
00:29:40of being able
00:29:41to put it out there.
00:29:42But I still think YouTube
00:29:43is a great place
00:29:44if you can get
00:29:45a consistent solid core
00:29:47to be able to make
00:29:48a career out of it.
00:29:49It's very hard
00:29:50to make a career
00:29:51on TikTok.
00:29:52It is not easy
00:29:53to make a career
00:29:53on YouTube,
00:29:54but it's a more stable,
00:29:55developed,
00:29:56robust platform.
00:29:57That's not me,
00:29:58usually I'm a very big
00:29:59YouTube defender.
00:30:00Still am,
00:30:00but less so.
00:30:02And with this,
00:30:03I feel like
00:30:04they were mad.
00:30:06I think they were.
00:30:07They were fucking pissed.
00:30:08And then they stole from us.
00:30:10They didn't tweet.
00:30:11They did not tweet.
00:30:13They didn't tweet the day
00:30:13of our last live stream.
00:30:15No,
00:30:15it is weird.
00:30:16No YouTube account,
00:30:17nothing.
00:30:18YouTube didn't say a word.
00:30:20Yeah.
00:30:21And it was
00:30:21everywhere on the internet.
00:30:24Like every single,
00:30:26this was back before
00:30:27Twitter is what it is now.
00:30:30Like every single thing
00:30:32was Unus Honus related
00:30:33on that final stream.
00:30:35Yeah.
00:30:36Yeah.
00:30:36And YouTube didn't say it.
00:30:37I remember I was talking
00:30:39to someone at YouTube,
00:30:39I forget who,
00:30:40but I told them,
00:30:41like,
00:30:42yeah,
00:30:43it was crazy.
00:30:44I think we must have
00:30:44had one of the highest
00:30:45live stream viewers ever.
00:30:48Like we had 1.7 million,
00:30:49I think it was the peak,
00:30:50right before the end.
00:30:52And this,
00:30:53I remember it was so dismissive.
00:30:56Whoever I was talking
00:30:57was just like,
00:30:58yeah,
00:30:58well,
00:30:58the,
00:30:59the,
00:30:59the guy,
00:31:00he didn't say this,
00:31:00but the guy who jumped out
00:31:02of the,
00:31:02the,
00:31:02the way up high
00:31:03weather balloon
00:31:05or something
00:31:06and,
00:31:06and the tallest,
00:31:07the big Red Bull thing.
00:31:08Yeah.
00:31:08The Red Bull thing.
00:31:09It was like,
00:31:09technically that had like
00:31:10two something million.
00:31:12So it's like your
00:31:13accomplishment meant dick.
00:31:14That's legitimately
00:31:15the way they put it out there.
00:31:17It's like,
00:31:17I said,
00:31:17yeah,
00:31:18we had 1.7 million people
00:31:19concurrent on the stream.
00:31:20That must've been,
00:31:21that must be up there.
00:31:22I didn't even say
00:31:23it was number one.
00:31:24I said it was like,
00:31:25it must be an accomplishment,
00:31:26right?
00:31:26I feel like I was,
00:31:27I was kind of like,
00:31:27I was proud.
00:31:28It was,
00:31:28nah.
00:31:29Other streams,
00:31:29it's not number one.
00:31:30It was never number one.
00:31:31It's not Ninja Drake.
00:31:32I don't know
00:31:32whatever was happening back then.
00:31:33Oh,
00:31:33we had way more than Ninja Drake.
00:31:34We had way more.
00:31:35That,
00:31:35I don't remember.
00:31:35We did like 600,
00:31:36I think.
00:31:37600,
00:31:37700,000.
00:31:37We had,
00:31:38in the waiting room,
00:31:40before the stream started,
00:31:41we had,
00:31:42200,000.
00:31:43Yeah,
00:31:44it was crazy.
00:31:45And it's not to brag,
00:31:46this isn't bragging about the numbers.
00:31:47This is,
00:31:48we look back on this,
00:31:49not because we're like,
00:31:50wow,
00:31:50we were so successful.
00:31:51It's like,
00:31:51wow,
00:31:52it meant that much to that many people.
00:31:54It meant something that they wanted to witness the death of this channel.
00:31:58It meant something.
00:32:00The,
00:32:00the thing that really blew me away with the end of Unus Honest was,
00:32:06like,
00:32:07the insane support from everybody who watched it was,
00:32:13that was incredible.
00:32:14But the thing that really put into perspective how big Unus Honest was,
00:32:20was all of my friends tweeting about it,
00:32:25and being like,
00:32:25oh,
00:32:26I had no idea that like,
00:32:28any of you guys would watch this stream,
00:32:31or just like,
00:32:32random peers being like,
00:32:34wow,
00:32:34watching the end of Unus Honest,
00:32:35blah,
00:32:35blah,
00:32:35blah,
00:32:35blah.
00:32:36There was,
00:32:36everybody was watching,
00:32:38it was crazy.
00:32:39And it was so wild,
00:32:40and it really put into perspective how,
00:32:42how big of a deal it was,
00:32:44and like,
00:32:45this really cool thing that we made.
00:32:47It was very special.
00:32:48I was talking to my mom about that yesterday,
00:32:51where I don't,
00:32:54I have a hard time like,
00:32:56acknowledging accomplishments that I've had.
00:32:59And I'm like,
00:32:59yeah,
00:32:59like,
00:33:00I went on tour,
00:33:01and it was good,
00:33:01and blah,
00:33:02it was fine.
00:33:03But Unus Honest is one of the only things where I'm like,
00:33:05wow,
00:33:05we really kind of like,
00:33:07made history on YouTube a little bit.
00:33:09Like,
00:33:09no one will ever be able to do what we did.
00:33:13Like,
00:33:13there will only ever be one Unus Honest,
00:33:16and one thing like that.
00:33:18Like,
00:33:18anything that happens that's similar to Unus Honest in the future,
00:33:21I think will just kind of be compared to what we did.
00:33:25And I think that's pretty crazy,
00:33:26that we,
00:33:28that we made something so special.
00:33:29I think so,
00:33:30yeah.
00:33:30I,
00:33:31and again,
00:33:32I hesitate to say it in a purely bragging way,
00:33:34but there's,
00:33:35there's many times where I am just proud of what we have done,
00:33:38and I think it is perfectly okay to say that I am proud of what we have done.
00:33:42And that is healthy in some regards.
00:33:45I'm known as an egotistical guy,
00:33:46of course,
00:33:47like,
00:33:47but I am extremely proud.
00:33:49And the,
00:33:50the problem with that pride is,
00:33:53I went on to did space,
00:33:54and let me tell you,
00:33:55the production of space was nightmarishly difficult to do.
00:34:00It was so much to wrap my head around.
00:34:03The whole team had to wrap their head around it.
00:34:04The filming of it was so intense.
00:34:06More filming days than Iron Lung had.
00:34:08How many crew were on that?
00:34:10Hundred and,
00:34:11and forty,
00:34:12hundred and,
00:34:13it was huge.
00:34:14What's that,
00:34:14Mark,
00:34:15you have to cut you to some slack.
00:34:17It,
00:34:17it really makes sense to put a hundred and forty,
00:34:19hundred and fifty people into a production,
00:34:21uh,
00:34:22deep in COVID.
00:34:23So you should have listened to them.
00:34:26Well,
00:34:26they could have paid for all of it,
00:34:28you know,
00:34:28but they didn't do that either.
00:34:30You know?
00:34:31Woo!
00:34:32We were sick on that shoot,
00:34:33and we had one person test positive,
00:34:34and they didn't make it in the door.
00:34:36Mm-hmm.
00:34:36Yeah.
00:34:36No,
00:34:37we were very,
00:34:37very good about that.
00:34:39And so,
00:34:39it was a very well-run production.
00:34:41It,
00:34:41it,
00:34:41it was nightmarish,
00:34:43not in terms of,
00:34:43like,
00:34:43it was hell on set.
00:34:44It was a great set.
00:34:45It was a blast.
00:34:46That's not what I meant.
00:34:47The actual putting it together
00:34:48was so much stress,
00:34:50and so much work,
00:34:51and so much effort.
00:34:52The crew did beautifully.
00:34:54Like,
00:34:54that,
00:34:54that's not where any of the issues was.
00:34:56Uh,
00:34:57there were,
00:34:57there was obviously some hiccups here and there,
00:34:59but I'd like to think that a lot of people
00:35:00who came off that set could say,
00:35:01like,
00:35:01no,
00:35:01that was a very fun,
00:35:02or at least,
00:35:03very least it had really good food.
00:35:04That's a big priority of me on sets,
00:35:05is really good food.
00:35:07Good food.
00:35:08Good food.
00:35:08That's,
00:35:08if you're gonna have long days,
00:35:09you might,
00:35:10you gotta have great food.
00:35:11And,
00:35:12you know,
00:35:12we're,
00:35:12we're filming in Austin,
00:35:13and Austin has great food.
00:35:15Uh,
00:35:15but it was,
00:35:16it was so much intense work,
00:35:18because I was like,
00:35:18I gotta go bigger,
00:35:19you know,
00:35:20I gotta go better,
00:35:21and,
00:35:21and I think space suffered,
00:35:23because it was too big.
00:35:24Because I was reaching too hard.
00:35:26The,
00:35:27uh,
00:35:28the ending of,
00:35:29it wasn't supposed to be part one,
00:35:30part two,
00:35:30it was supposed to be just one.
00:35:32Um,
00:35:32the ending of part one.
00:35:34Was that a you thing,
00:35:35or was that a YouTube thing?
00:35:36That was a,
00:35:37that was a compromise between me,
00:35:39and the,
00:35:39the former head of YouTube,
00:35:41who is not the person that I am talking shit about,
00:35:43by the way.
00:35:44I'm,
00:35:44I'm so sorry,
00:35:45names are terrible with me,
00:35:46and I'm forgetting,
00:35:47but the former head of YouTube Originals,
00:35:49um,
00:35:50while I was doing that,
00:35:51is not the person I'm talking about here.
00:35:54Uh,
00:35:54uh,
00:35:55she's very lovely.
00:35:55Um,
00:35:56and,
00:35:57I,
00:35:58I,
00:35:58I took on too much.
00:36:00But part one,
00:36:00part two was a way to get more money from YouTube,
00:36:03even though it wasn't enough to do all of it,
00:36:05even though,
00:36:07I know some shows got way more than,
00:36:09and they weren't nominated for an Emmy,
00:36:12but that's fine,
00:36:14whatever.
00:36:15Anyway,
00:36:15it's,
00:36:15it's totally off the path.
00:36:17I'm getting off topic here.
00:36:18No,
00:36:18this is the topic.
00:36:19It's what's been going on the last five years.
00:36:20It's just what we've been,
00:36:22what we've been doing.
00:36:23Yeah,
00:36:24true.
00:36:24It's just reflecting on all these projects,
00:36:26and how you've grown,
00:36:27you know?
00:36:28Iron Lung was supposed to be smaller.
00:36:30Well,
00:36:30and that's when we started Iron Lung.
00:36:32That was the most infuriating part,
00:36:33out of the gate,
00:36:34was the amount of people,
00:36:35when you're like,
00:36:36oh,
00:36:36I'm doing a feature.
00:36:37They're like,
00:36:37wow,
00:36:38are you ready for that?
00:36:39Like,
00:36:40the last thing you had done was just the most,
00:36:42fucking,
00:36:43batshit,
00:36:44like,
00:36:46crazy brain thing you've ever done.
00:36:48Yeah,
00:36:48yeah.
00:36:49And not to say that Iron Lung didn't end up being,
00:36:51an absolute goddamn bear,
00:36:52but,
00:36:53yeah,
00:36:53but for different reasons,
00:36:55and we'll talk about that.
00:36:56But not because it was a feature film.
00:36:57Yeah,
00:36:57not because it was a feature film.
00:36:58That was the fine part.
00:36:59That was totally okay.
00:37:01Yeah.
00:37:01Because,
00:37:02as far as,
00:37:04amount shot,
00:37:06you shot way more for space.
00:37:09Oh yeah.
00:37:10What was the total run time,
00:37:12if you,
00:37:12nine hours or something?
00:37:13Of space?
00:37:14Six hours,
00:37:15close to seven hours,
00:37:16not quite seven.
00:37:17How many,
00:37:17how long was production?
00:37:1945 days,
00:37:20I think.
00:37:20And then how long was Iron Lung production?
00:37:2235.
00:37:2335.
00:37:24And that got extended from the original,
00:37:27yeah.
00:37:27Oh God,
00:37:28I forgot.
00:37:28And then that first week,
00:37:29we panicked and added days.
00:37:31Yeah,
00:37:31panicked and added 10 days.
00:37:33Thank God.
00:37:33Because it was supposed to be a 25 day shoot,
00:37:34because again,
00:37:34it was supposed to be smaller.
00:37:35So that's the problem.
00:37:36I went too big with space,
00:37:38and then we came in too small,
00:37:40with Iron Lung.
00:37:41And so it suffered because of that,
00:37:43and then it suffered because of that.
00:37:45You know,
00:37:45not that it wasn't a fairly ambitious idea,
00:37:49it was a,
00:37:50you know,
00:37:50I mean it was,
00:37:51it hasn't come out yet for you guys,
00:37:53but you know,
00:37:53approaching the end of it right now.
00:37:55It wasn't something that could be really small,
00:37:58but it was supposed to be contained,
00:38:00whereas space was so expansive and huge,
00:38:02I wanted to do something that was super focused,
00:38:05like laser focused in here.
00:38:07And there's tons of challenges
00:38:08that were either part of my own fault,
00:38:11production fault,
00:38:12egos get involved when it's like a serious feature film,
00:38:15not blaming anyone on set or anything like that,
00:38:18but people take it much more seriously
00:38:20than what seemed like a fun YouTube thing with space,
00:38:22which it was.
00:38:23It had a serious core,
00:38:24but at the card of it,
00:38:25it's a fun YouTube show.
00:38:26It could be scuffed at the end of the day,
00:38:27and that could be the joke.
00:38:28Yeah,
00:38:29a movie can't,
00:38:30a feature film cannot,
00:38:31well,
00:38:31it could be,
00:38:32but I didn't want to do it.
00:38:33But you're not writing a comedy,
00:38:34look,
00:38:34next time you're writing a comedy,
00:38:35we'll make it goofy and scuffed.
00:38:36Oh, man,
00:38:36I want to make a comedy.
00:38:38Please,
00:38:38I'm so desperate.
00:38:39Do you want to make a comedy?
00:38:40Yeah,
00:38:41of course I do.
00:38:42I like jokes,
00:38:44you know?
00:38:44I like jokes.
00:38:45I like a laugh.
00:38:46And I feel like every once in a while,
00:38:48nothing makes me happier,
00:38:49I'll come across some random tweet or something,
00:38:51and it'll be somebody,
00:38:52like in the last few months,
00:38:53being like,
00:38:53I finally got around to watching in space,
00:38:55and holy shit,
00:38:56this is dense with jokes.
00:38:58It's so dense.
00:38:59It's so dense.
00:38:59Oh,
00:39:00it's so dense with jokes.
00:39:01That's one thing that I think that you genuinely have a skill in,
00:39:03is your density of jokes that you can pack in.
00:39:05I didn't really ever think about that,
00:39:08because like,
00:39:09when,
00:39:11I'm trying really hard to like,
00:39:14not say anything,
00:39:16because like,
00:39:16with space,
00:39:18it's,
00:39:19and people have seen it,
00:39:21obviously,
00:39:21and it's like,
00:39:22ha ha,
00:39:22goofy,
00:39:22blah blah blah blah blah,
00:39:23but with something like Iron Lung,
00:39:25it's not like that,
00:39:27was that weird on set at all?
00:39:29Yeah.
00:39:29Like,
00:39:29did that kind of like,
00:39:31for lack of a better term,
00:39:32like bring down morale?
00:39:33Yeah,
00:39:34yeah,
00:39:34yeah.
00:39:35I don't think it's a spoiler to say that Iron Lung is not,
00:39:38a happy experience.
00:39:40Okay,
00:39:41so,
00:39:41that's what I was gonna say,
00:39:43and I was like,
00:39:43maybe not,
00:39:44because a lot of people have been like,
00:39:46oh,
00:39:46have you seen Iron Lung?
00:39:47And I'm like,
00:39:48kind of,
00:39:48and they're like,
00:39:48is it fun?
00:39:49And I'm like,
00:39:50I wouldn't say it's fun.
00:39:52It's not really a fun movie in that sense.
00:39:57It's a ride.
00:39:58I'd call it a ride.
00:39:59Yeah,
00:40:00yeah.
00:40:00If you know about the coaster that does six loops and then kills you,
00:40:06that's kind of a good analogy.
00:40:10Yeah.
00:40:11I love that.
00:40:12But I think I know what you're getting at with,
00:40:16wait,
00:40:16what were you getting at?
00:40:17Oh,
00:40:18did,
00:40:21compared to like Space,
00:40:23where it's ha ha goofy goofy,
00:40:25with Iron Lung,
00:40:26did it like,
00:40:26kind of bring down morale?
00:40:28Right,
00:40:28right.
00:40:28So,
00:40:29that's where it was tricky,
00:40:30because obviously the character that I'm playing is not having a good time,
00:40:35but as soon as he yells cut,
00:40:38I like having fun on set.
00:40:39Yeah.
00:40:39With Space,
00:40:40because I would be in different costumes,
00:40:42getting a different character,
00:40:43so I would get into that character,
00:40:45and I would be able to play that character,
00:40:46and it's fun,
00:40:47and everyone's having a good time,
00:40:48it's taking it less seriously,
00:40:50there's not as much pressure in terms of like,
00:40:52delivering performance.
00:40:53So,
00:40:53when I have to deliver a really tough performance on,
00:40:57you know,
00:40:58Iron Lung,
00:40:58it's difficult to be happy before,
00:41:01and it's really difficult to be happy after,
00:41:03when I've done it so well that everyone is weeping in Video Village,
00:41:07from the genius that was my acting.
00:41:10That's true.
00:41:11It's hard.
00:41:12It's hard.
00:41:13It's really hard.
00:41:14Also,
00:41:14let alone like,
00:41:15your actual physical exertion,
00:41:17and like,
00:41:17risk that you took on with this project,
00:41:19and again,
00:41:20this is not,
00:41:21frankly,
00:41:21a flex,
00:41:22but like,
00:41:22Iron Lung,
00:41:24if I could give one non-spoiler,
00:41:26it would be that like,
00:41:27nobody else could make it,
00:41:29and that's not even necessarily a compliment,
00:41:31it's just like,
00:41:31you just wouldn't put an actor through what you put yourself through.
00:41:33I wouldn't,
00:41:34for sure.
00:41:34No,
00:41:35you couldn't.
00:41:35Yeah.
00:41:36It wasn't,
00:41:37not that you were doing things that were unsafe,
00:41:39I don't,
00:41:40you know.
00:41:40Yeah,
00:41:41yeah.
00:41:41But it was,
00:41:42it was like,
00:41:44it was,
00:41:45there was shit that you were doing that was brutal on you.
00:41:48It was.
00:41:49This whole conversation,
00:41:50the clip in my brain that is playing from SpongeBob,
00:41:54it's just,
00:41:55careful,
00:41:55SpongeBob,
00:41:55careful,
00:41:56careful,
00:41:56I know,
00:41:57I know.
00:41:58Yeah,
00:41:59anyway,
00:42:00I know people are chomping at the bit,
00:42:01but it really is super soon until you will have something actionable.
00:42:08Yeah.
00:42:09Actionable.
00:42:10Keep your eyes out if you're here and you're interested in Iron Lone,
00:42:12just keep your eyes and ears open to all the channels that Mark is on,
00:42:17and he'll tell you when there's something you can do.
00:42:20We'll probably talk more when we talk,
00:42:22but,
00:42:22you know.
00:42:23Yeah.
00:42:24It's very exciting though.
00:42:26Yeah.
00:42:26Very exciting.
00:42:27Yeah.
00:42:28Tell about the last three years that you've been under.
00:42:30That I've been under?
00:42:32Yeah,
00:42:32I know you've been extremely hard at work,
00:42:35like before even,
00:42:37like.
00:42:38You're doing these huge,
00:42:39like,
00:42:39big production videos now,
00:42:40and that's not,
00:42:41I guess,
00:42:41what you're doing before.
00:42:41Not trying to spoil it.
00:42:42Oh,
00:42:43no.
00:42:43Yeah,
00:42:44the last little bit,
00:42:45there's been a lot of videos that have been in the works that have been kind of crazy,
00:42:50which will,
00:42:51which are being worked on and will come out when they come out.
00:42:56But there's a lot of really big videos coming down the line,
00:42:59and a lot of things that take a,
00:43:01take a long time.
00:43:03The last,
00:43:04the last few years,
00:43:07weird.
00:43:08I mean,
00:43:08I think I definitely,
00:43:11the,
00:43:13the thing that I worked the hardest on,
00:43:16and that was the most personal from this last five years,
00:43:20was definitely tour.
00:43:21Like,
00:43:21I really put a lot into that,
00:43:24and I had so much fun going on tour,
00:43:27and that's something that I really want to do again,
00:43:29because I really like,
00:43:31I,
00:43:31I like performing a lot,
00:43:34and that's something that I really missed,
00:43:36because like when we went on tour,
00:43:39it was so much fun just being on stage every night,
00:43:42and then doing that again for my tour was super,
00:43:44super fun.
00:43:46And being,
00:43:47being like really vulnerable for anybody who saw my show is a pretty
00:43:50vulnerable and like personal show.
00:43:54And that's always something that,
00:43:55that's difficult where it's like,
00:43:57that's something that I want to do again,
00:43:59but I'm not really sure what,
00:44:01how I want to do that,
00:44:02or like what I would do,
00:44:04but I still have the itch of like,
00:44:06oh,
00:44:06I,
00:44:06I know that I want to go on tour again,
00:44:08and I know that I'll figure out a way to do that again.
00:44:11I feel like there's a lot of opportunity,
00:44:13not that you would want to do it that way,
00:44:14but I think of like,
00:44:15what is it like Scribble Showdown,
00:44:16or some of those shows that are more variety,
00:44:18where it's not just you having to carry two hours,
00:44:20you know,
00:44:21I think you probably could cook up some kind of,
00:44:24I don't know,
00:44:24something.
00:44:25I didn't mind carrying two hours,
00:44:27like,
00:44:28it also,
00:44:30it,
00:44:30every show went by super,
00:44:32super fast,
00:44:34so I didn't mind,
00:44:36listen guys,
00:44:37I love being the center of attention,
00:44:39I don't,
00:44:39I don't have a problem with that,
00:44:41it's just like figuring out what that show would be,
00:44:44if I were to tour again,
00:44:46and I will tour again at some point,
00:44:47like,
00:44:47it's something that I really,
00:44:48really want to do,
00:44:49I just have to figure out what that would,
00:44:52what that would be.
00:44:53You could get a stand-up routine,
00:44:56get a tight 40,
00:44:59a tight 40?
00:45:01A tight 40,
00:45:01yeah,
00:45:01you could do that.
00:45:02Well,
00:45:02you don't want people to pay a ticket price for a 10 minute show.
00:45:06No,
00:45:06but I would also feel bad about 40.
00:45:09I think everything's got to be at least an hour.
00:45:12Well,
00:45:12is he joining stand-up sets?
00:45:14No,
00:45:14I don't,
00:45:14I don't have an hour of jokes,
00:45:16I don't want to do stand-up at all.
00:45:18A very serious show.
00:45:20A very serious show,
00:45:21I want people to weep,
00:45:21horror show,
00:45:22yeah,
00:45:22weep and cry.
00:45:24Remember how you were like,
00:45:26oh,
00:45:26I can't wait to do a comedy,
00:45:28and we were talking about bringing the morale down,
00:45:30with Iron Lung.
00:45:31That's kind of what I want to do.
00:45:32I want to go up on stage,
00:45:33and make people really sad.
00:45:35Oh,
00:45:35man.
00:45:35They'd sit there,
00:45:36and I'd go,
00:45:37I don't want to be here.
00:45:40You know,
00:45:41yeah,
00:45:41I got a taste of that,
00:45:42with Who Killed,
00:45:44you know,
00:45:44when we did that,
00:45:45just bringing the mood,
00:45:47way down,
00:45:48at the end of that one,
00:45:49just like,
00:45:49you think it's going to be a happy ending.
00:45:54No.
00:45:54No.
00:45:55No,
00:45:55never.
00:45:55No,
00:45:56not at all.
00:45:56No,
00:45:57not at all.
00:45:57Yeah,
00:45:58and I mean,
00:45:58even with Space,
00:45:59like,
00:45:59it did a little bit of a depressing ending,
00:46:01but it had a good ending,
00:46:02you know,
00:46:02at the end of that.
00:46:03But,
00:46:03yeah,
00:46:04not this one.
00:46:06I,
00:46:07I think the,
00:46:08the last few years,
00:46:10I,
00:46:12I've been going through,
00:46:14because,
00:46:14I was thinking about this the other day,
00:46:15actually.
00:46:16You went through a pretty similar thing,
00:46:19this was around 2018,
00:46:232017,
00:46:242018,
00:46:25when you had,
00:46:28identity crisis is way more than what it was,
00:46:34but you kind of,
00:46:34like,
00:46:34had a little freak out for a second.
00:46:35This was around,
00:46:36like,
00:46:37the barrel videos,
00:46:38and the fan videos,
00:46:39where you were like,
00:46:39I don't really know what I want to be doing,
00:46:42but I want to be doing something bigger.
00:46:44That's kind of how I've been feeling the last couple of years,
00:46:47where I'm like,
00:46:47I don't know what I want to be doing,
00:46:50but I know that I want to be doing something more,
00:46:51but I just don't know what that is yet.
00:46:55And I think,
00:46:56I feel like a lot of people go through that in their late 20s,
00:47:00where it's like,
00:47:00oh man,
00:47:01I'm not a child anymore.
00:47:04Gotta make your own fun.
00:47:05Yeah.
00:47:06I feel this pressure to be like,
00:47:08oh,
00:47:08okay,
00:47:09I need to enter my 30s with,
00:47:10like,
00:47:11a clear vision of,
00:47:12like,
00:47:12what I want to be doing.
00:47:15Yeah.
00:47:15I think with it,
00:47:17you know,
00:47:18I think naturally,
00:47:19it just gravitates you towards positions of responsibility.
00:47:23I think that's what it,
00:47:24that's,
00:47:24at least for me,
00:47:25what I realized is,
00:47:26like,
00:47:26over a long period of time,
00:47:27the craving that I had to expand what I did was more to enable other people around me to be able to do what they wanted to do,
00:47:34or at least as best as I could.
00:47:36And I think it's naturally happening because you have,
00:47:39at least one of them's actually monitoring over there.
00:47:43One of them's watching.
00:47:44One of them's watching.
00:47:46I thought you were pointing to me.
00:47:48I was like,
00:47:48what's happening?
00:47:49Oh, no, no,
00:47:49sorry,
00:47:49not you.
00:47:50No, I'm so sorry.
00:47:51I was just like,
00:47:52shit,
00:47:52I wasn't paying attention.
00:47:53It's like your circle starts to expand because,
00:47:56like,
00:47:57to do anything beyond what one person can physically do is like,
00:48:01you have to start bringing in other creators and that's a difficult thing to do.
00:48:05But it's also,
00:48:06it's,
00:48:06it's a natural progression.
00:48:07Like,
00:48:08I'm getting older and I'm not going to be able to yell at video games forever.
00:48:14So I need to be able to pass on my genius to the others around me and they can bask in my glory until I die.
00:48:24And then they can make let's plays.
00:48:26But never as good as me.
00:48:27No.
00:48:28Never.
00:48:29Are you training people up to make let's plays?
00:48:31Since when?
00:48:32Well,
00:48:32whatever they want to do.
00:48:33You haven't seen the whole,
00:48:34like,
00:48:34conveyor belt thing?
00:48:37Coming through and they're starting to get a little cramped in there.
00:48:40Yeah,
00:48:40yeah,
00:48:40but they'll get some good FNAF videos up soon.
00:48:43They'll do.
00:48:44Man,
00:48:44I miss making let's plays.
00:48:46I'm going to be honest.
00:48:47Didn't you do one recently again?
00:48:49I recorded one recently and I had so much fun and I was like,
00:48:52I have this weird thing currently where I have this like weird pressure.
00:48:58It almost seems like that.
00:48:59I put on myself that I like uploads.
00:49:02And I don't have to be a bigger thing and like a more special thing.
00:49:06And I'm like,
00:49:07why can't I just put out bullshit?
00:49:09I miss it.
00:49:10That's what I do.
00:49:11No,
00:49:11legitimately.
00:49:12When I was,
00:49:13when I was just for that brief window of time where I was like,
00:49:15I'm getting back into it.
00:49:16I'm playing Silent Hill.
00:49:17I'm,
00:49:17I'm recording these random videos.
00:49:19I'm like,
00:49:19this feels great.
00:49:20When I got back into that rhythm,
00:49:21it felt like,
00:49:22like an organ woke up in me.
00:49:25Yeah.
00:49:25No one knows what that feels like.
00:49:27What the fuck does that even mean?
00:49:28You know when an organ wakes up in you?
00:49:31You know when you're like,
00:49:32Oh,
00:49:33I got that new organ that they were talking about.
00:49:35The mesentery or whatever that is.
00:49:37Anyway,
00:49:38it's,
00:49:38is there a new organ?
00:49:41Well,
00:49:41it's not a new organ.
00:49:42New organ doesn't play organ.
00:49:43It's not the way it's playing organ.
00:49:47But it felt like,
00:49:49I grew my phantom limb back or something like that.
00:49:52It felt like I was me again.
00:49:55And that's what a lot of what I've had to deal with thus far is not like I'm
00:50:00working with a lot of constraints on the end of this project because doing a
00:50:04movie is a very big endeavor and people say that I can't do it alone,
00:50:06but I know a lot of the pieces of it now.
00:50:08And I think that the next time I do this,
00:50:09I'm going to do a lot of the parts.
00:50:11Me,
00:50:12even though people,
00:50:13the people on the team are looking at me like,
00:50:14you already took on all the parts of yourself and you really shouldn't have
00:50:17done that.
00:50:17I'm like,
00:50:17I know,
00:50:18but I'm really,
00:50:18I'm really egotistical about it.
00:50:20Yeah,
00:50:21but there's something about that.
00:50:23And I think it's just like a,
00:50:25to make a generalization.
00:50:27It's a little bit of a YouTuber thing where it's like,
00:50:29no,
00:50:29I know how to do this stuff.
00:50:32But there's a lot of YouTubers that don't.
00:50:34That's so true.
00:50:35That's true.
00:50:36That's true.
00:50:37You guys both surprise people when you actually know what you're talking about.
00:50:40Yeah,
00:50:40that's true.
00:50:40That's what I see.
00:50:42Yeah.
00:50:42Yeah.
00:50:43That is true.
00:50:43Actually there.
00:50:44Okay.
00:50:45Listen,
00:50:45listen,
00:50:46this isn't a shit on streamers at all.
00:50:48Okay.
00:50:51I'm going to say something and you can put this wherever you want.
00:50:54I don't even fucking care anymore.
00:50:56Okay.
00:50:56Listen to me.
00:50:57You.
00:50:59COVID happened,
00:51:00right?
00:51:00Everyone was at home.
00:51:02They were streaming and huge audiences were made.
00:51:05But guess what happens when you get successful and then you're like,
00:51:10Oh,
00:51:10I have this big streaming platform.
00:51:12I should naturally go over to YouTube.
00:51:14And then it's like,
00:51:15well,
00:51:15who knows how to edit?
00:51:17I have to hire somebody and nobody knows how to do fucking shit anymore.
00:51:21Nobody knows how to make their own thumbnails.
00:51:23Nobody knows how to edit anymore.
00:51:24And I'm talking to all of you streamers who blew up during COVID.
00:51:28Why don't you fucking learn how to edit for once?
00:51:30You don't have to hand everything off.
00:51:32And then it's great because you have a thing that you need to do last minute or
00:51:36somebody does something and then it's shitty.
00:51:38Then you can just be like,
00:51:39well,
00:51:39I know how to fix this,
00:51:40but no one knows how to do anything anymore.
00:51:42Mark.
00:51:42I saw your video with Smosh.
00:51:45And I know some of them might've been playing it up.
00:51:47I think there was a lot of me,
00:51:50maybe,
00:51:52but,
00:51:52but it's,
00:51:53uh,
00:51:54even though I disavow everything he says and I'm good with you streamers,
00:51:57you can always rely on me to be on your side.
00:52:01Yes.
00:52:02Uh,
00:52:02but anyway,
00:52:03don't cut away just yet.
00:52:05No,
00:52:06no,
00:52:06no,
00:52:06please bring it back to me.
00:52:08Uh,
00:52:09I've forgotten what I was going to say,
00:52:10but Smosh,
00:52:11Smosh,
00:52:11right.
00:52:11I do think that that is something that a lot of people need to recognize because
00:52:15what happens is,
00:52:17just like what you say is not only are they not able to fix the problems,
00:52:21they don't recognize the problems because they don't know how the sauce was made
00:52:24and they can't communicate.
00:52:26They can't speak to the editors like an editor needs to know information because they don't
00:52:32know what they're asking for.
00:52:33And so that leads to inefficiencies.
00:52:35It's not even so much of like,
00:52:36Oh,
00:52:36you should do this because you should be able to do it yourself.
00:52:38You should be proud of the art that you make or,
00:52:41but not everyone can be multidisciplinary.
00:52:43Um,
00:52:43but you should at least know the basics so that you can build those relationships and
00:52:48not have them constantly talk shit about you behind your back.
00:52:51And as a guy who no one has ever talked shit about me behind my back,
00:52:55and I would never talk shit about you behind yours.
00:52:59As that guy that I just said that I was the conclusion that I was going to say that I
00:53:05didn't forget.
00:53:06Yes.
00:53:07Yes.
00:53:08No.
00:53:08And I'm not,
00:53:09I,
00:53:09I do think that that is an important thing.
00:53:12If you're specifically in a,
00:53:15in a creative space,
00:53:18like I think it's really important to know these other,
00:53:21aspects,
00:53:22at least a little bit.
00:53:23And I'm not shitting on all the streamers.
00:53:25I'm just saying that everyone should know if they're in this space,
00:53:29how to edit a little bit,
00:53:30because then you can properly communicate and at the end of the day,
00:53:33make better stuff.
00:53:35This is exactly why you were saying is true with Unus Honest,
00:53:39not being easily replicatable.
00:53:41And people could,
00:53:43but yes,
00:53:43it would be compared to this is if we didn't both know how to edit and picked up
00:53:47videos and Amy picked up videos and was conjuring up the ideas for,
00:53:51for the videos while we were able to extra,
00:53:53we took a bunch of improv classes before that.
00:53:55We had the skills to be able to do all of this thumbnail,
00:53:59metadata,
00:54:00planning,
00:54:00logistics,
00:54:01camera,
00:54:01all of it was done by us.
00:54:03If this was a TV show doing daily content,
00:54:06like these 15 to sometimes 40 minute,
00:54:09why were some of those 40 minutes?
00:54:10Yes.
00:54:10I'm not way too long.
00:54:12Yeah.
00:54:12But I mean,
00:54:13they were good,
00:54:13but it,
00:54:14it's difficult.
00:54:16It's extremely difficult to expect that many different skills coming in
00:54:19there.
00:54:19And that's why I say that YouTube is a really good place because it forces
00:54:22you.
00:54:23If you're starting off from nothing,
00:54:24it forces you to meet the challenge that is put in front of you.
00:54:27And TikTok makes the barrier to entry easy.
00:54:30And I'm not shitting on TikTok.
00:54:32Like,
00:54:32like Ethan shit on streamers.
00:54:34I'm not going to do that to you.
00:54:35Absolutely not.
00:54:36But with,
00:54:37I love,
00:54:40because,
00:54:41it's just,
00:54:44because obviously we're jokes and goofing,
00:54:48haha,
00:54:48but it's just like,
00:54:49no,
00:54:49listen,
00:54:50my friend here that I'm throwing under the bus,
00:54:52or fuck that guy.
00:54:54I'd never do that to you.
00:54:57Never,
00:54:57never.
00:54:58I'm pure of heart.
00:54:58I got a thing,
00:54:59I got a thing happening that I got to get people in on.
00:55:03And I need everyone to be happy with me.
00:55:05The drama can explode after,
00:55:07after the thing that is,
00:55:08I'm trying to rope people into.
00:55:11I haven't guilted him yet.
00:55:12No,
00:55:13which I will move on to that.
00:55:14That will come.
00:55:14That,
00:55:14oh,
00:55:15I've got the dirt.
00:55:18I've got so much dirt.
00:55:19You do?
00:55:20On so many people.
00:55:20Do you?
00:55:21Yeah.
00:55:23No,
00:55:23not that much.
00:55:24We got a couple bangers.
00:55:25I don't know,
00:55:25we got a couple of things we sit on.
00:55:28Yeah.
00:55:29We have a couple of inside stories.
00:55:30Yeah,
00:55:30just for a rainy day.
00:55:33When you get bored.
00:55:34No,
00:55:35it's all,
00:55:36like,
00:55:37not all of it,
00:55:37but it's like,
00:55:38most of it is harmless stuff,
00:55:39like,
00:55:40you know.
00:55:40I know exactly.
00:55:41It's really funny,
00:55:42but it's not worth the bee bush.
00:55:44It's not worth Mark sticking his hand into the bee bush.
00:55:45Oh,
00:55:46it's not worth the bee bush.
00:55:46I know.
00:55:47But it's funny enough to do that.
00:55:50I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:55:52And you're never going to know unless the stars align.
00:55:54I plan to outlive everybody,
00:55:56and then 80 years from now,
00:55:58I'll get on a live stream.
00:55:5970 years from now,
00:56:00I'll get on a live stream.
00:56:01Yeah.
00:56:02Tell them.
00:56:02You know.
00:56:03You're like,
00:56:04I remember.
00:56:04But I do think now,
00:56:07because you get the question all the time of like,
00:56:10how do you start to become a YouTuber or whatever,
00:56:13blah,
00:56:13blah,
00:56:13blah,
00:56:13blah,
00:56:13blah,
00:56:13because it used to be that you had to,
00:56:15and now you don't necessarily.
00:56:18If you want to make things on YouTube,
00:56:21or you want to be in a creative space with video at all,
00:56:25learn how to edit.
00:56:27That is my number one tip.
00:56:30Don't get a cool,
00:56:31don't spend all your money on a camera.
00:56:32Don't spend on blah,
00:56:33blah,
00:56:33blah,
00:56:33learn how to edit.
00:56:35Like that,
00:56:36it is such a good skill,
00:56:37because then you can do everything yourself if you have to.
00:56:40But you also can just communicate better.
00:56:42And the people that I have seen,
00:56:43like younger,
00:56:44newer creators,
00:56:45who have made the successful transition from like,
00:56:48oh,
00:56:48I had a couple of viral TikToks into like a YouTube career,
00:56:51or any kind of sustainable online career,
00:56:53always edit their own stuff,
00:56:54because people like the videos,
00:56:55and they come back to them,
00:56:56and all the comments will be like,
00:56:57this editing is so unique,
00:56:58right?
00:56:59Absolutely.
00:56:59You create this,
00:57:00I think if you're using all the prefab stuff,
00:57:02you're never going to develop your own style.
00:57:03Yeah.
00:57:04You know?
00:57:04On like TikTok,
00:57:05I see it all the time now,
00:57:06maybe just because of what I watch,
00:57:08but I see edits,
00:57:09and then people talking about the edits,
00:57:11being like,
00:57:12this edit was the best,
00:57:13this edit was the best,
00:57:14no,
00:57:15this edit,
00:57:15and they're like,
00:57:16this wasn't as good as this edit,
00:57:17and people literally respect editing.
00:57:19The studios are paying for them now.
00:57:20The studios are hiring people off TikTok
00:57:22to make fan edits,
00:57:23because that's where the marketing is now.
00:57:25Exactly.
00:57:26Yeah,
00:57:26clip editors,
00:57:27like people do,
00:57:27that is a whole secondary market
00:57:30to content creation
00:57:31that I have never talked about,
00:57:32really,
00:57:32and is like quietly not acknowledged
00:57:34by a lot of YouTubers.
00:57:36It's not something that I do,
00:57:37but man.
00:57:39Clip editing?
00:57:40Clips?
00:57:40Clipping?
00:57:41Yeah, I fucking hate it.
00:57:42I hate it so much.
00:57:44But it's not going to make me make my own clips,
00:57:46it's just I'm not going to do it.
00:57:47Everybody's always like,
00:57:48oh,
00:57:49you got to put out shorts,
00:57:50you got to put out TikTok.
00:57:50I hate it!
00:57:51I don't want to do it!
00:57:53It's not just about that.
00:57:54It is paying other,
00:57:56like now it's companies,
00:57:58but it's like groups of editors
00:58:00to organically
00:58:02clip your things
00:58:04and place them everywhere.
00:58:05If you didn't know,
00:58:06that is an extremely big business.
00:58:09So if you still use Twitter,
00:58:11like I unfortunately do sometimes,
00:58:12and you get this shit in your feed,
00:58:14and you're like,
00:58:14why does this same goddamn streamer
00:58:16that I've never heard of keep coming up?
00:58:17It's like,
00:58:18and I guess the ViewBot stuff has come out now,
00:58:20so maybe that's all slightly different.
00:58:21But like that is the game,
00:58:23is like getting into the mud of it.
00:58:26Yeah, it is.
00:58:26There's a lot of mud.
00:58:28There was a lot of mud when I first started.
00:58:30There was always going to be mud.
00:58:32But it's,
00:58:33what?
00:58:34Who knew it was so muddy?
00:58:35Listen,
00:58:37when I started,
00:58:38there was mud everywhere.
00:58:40The walls caked in mud.
00:58:41I didn't realize it at first.
00:58:43I was climbing out of a silo.
00:58:47Mud.
00:58:51Sorry, continue.
00:58:53There was mud.
00:58:55There was mud, right?
00:58:56Mud.
00:58:57But I had a point before I started talking about it.
00:58:59Editing.
00:58:59Editing is an extremely valuable skill.
00:59:02Even if I'm saying,
00:59:03like this is mud,
00:59:04that's a career.
00:59:04I don't fault anybody
00:59:06for hustling to make a living.
00:59:08And editing,
00:59:09especially in today's age,
00:59:11like AI video might take over all of this
00:59:15and it'll be irrelevant
00:59:16because you go like,
00:59:16make me a movie
00:59:17with boobs and guns
00:59:19and World War II.
00:59:22And you're going to watch that
00:59:23and be like,
00:59:23that was great.
00:59:24I loved that.
00:59:25I felt a real human connection
00:59:26when I watched this.
00:59:26I feel like more of a person,
00:59:29more of a well-rounded person
00:59:30because I experienced this.
00:59:31Really grinds my gears.
00:59:33What?
00:59:33Really grinds my gears.
00:59:34What?
00:59:34Which part?
00:59:35All of it.
00:59:37Which part?
00:59:39Well,
00:59:39so there was a thing recently.
00:59:42I don't know outside of LA
00:59:43how big it was.
00:59:44The like AI actress.
00:59:46Oh yeah,
00:59:47Mark probably doesn't even know about this.
00:59:49I don't remember what,
00:59:50what the name of it was.
00:59:53But,
00:59:53it's stupid
00:59:54because it's,
00:59:56what's the point?
00:59:57I agree.
00:59:59What's the point?
01:00:00I agree.
01:00:01You tell me.
01:00:02Yeah.
01:00:03You tell me.
01:00:05Anyway.
01:00:06Um,
01:00:07yeah.
01:00:08You're almost done now.
01:00:10With what?
01:00:10Wait,
01:00:11what?
01:00:11Wait,
01:00:12what?
01:00:13No,
01:00:14you're almost done
01:00:14with your big movie,
01:00:15Mark.
01:00:15Oh yes,
01:00:16yes.
01:00:16You're almost done.
01:00:17You're almost done.
01:00:18You're almost done.
01:00:19You're almost done.
01:00:20You're almost done.
01:00:21You're almost done.
01:00:22You're almost done.
01:00:23You're almost done.
01:00:23You're almost done.
01:00:24You're almost done.
01:00:25You're almost done.
01:00:25You're almost done.
01:00:26You're almost done.
01:00:27You're almost done.
01:00:28You're almost done.
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01:00:30You're almost done.
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