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00:009-1-1, what's your emergency?
00:07Hello? I need help. I'm trapped here.
00:12Hello?
00:13It's dark. Help.
00:15Ma'am?
00:16Please.
00:17Ma'am, are you still there?
00:22Hey, how you doing?
00:24They just put it right there.
00:25You, uh, you don't look so happy to see me.
00:30I, no, I just, I want to just get this case behind me.
00:33If today's not a good day.
00:34No, it's great. Not a problem. Not a problem.
00:36Great. Let's start at the beginning, then.
00:37When did you meet Abigail Turney?
00:39Uh, that was a few years ago when she showed up at my door
00:43pretending to be pregnant with my grandchild.
00:45Excuse me?
00:46Abigail and my son Henry met in college.
00:49They got engaged, you know, fast.
00:52Very fast.
00:53Her way of, uh, breaking the news to me was to, uh, go bigger.
00:57But, um, despite that introduction, I w-I was charmed by her.
01:01She-she had, uh, walked a tough road, but she had grit.
01:06She was resourceful and driven, and I-I admire that.
01:10So she and Henry are no longer together?
01:11Yeah, she broke off the engagement, but, uh, it was amicable.
01:14You arranged for Abigail to have a ride-along with the LAPD?
01:17Yes.
01:18Yeah, she was considering police work.
01:19I take it that didn't work out.
01:21Leave her alone!
01:22Hey!
01:22It did not.
01:25And then six months ago, she was reported missing.
01:27What exactly happened to Abigail?
01:29Look, if you're gonna get to the bottom of what happened to that poor girl,
01:34you're gonna have to have an open mind.
01:38A very open mind.
01:40Hey!
01:44Ah!
01:44Police!
01:46I wonder when that happened.
01:47Oh, my God.
01:50Hello?
01:51Can you hear me?
01:53When did you get involved in the case?
01:54Uh, not immediately.
01:55Most missing persons cases aren't really cases.
01:58They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar and slept it off in his truck,
02:02or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery.
02:05You know, most of the time, they show up unharmed and confused about all the fuss.
02:09But this wasn't like that, was it?
02:11No.
02:11After a few days of follow-up calls, we sent officers by Miss Tyranny's apartment for a wellness check.
02:17Thanks again for doing this.
02:19Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple.
02:22Let's keep this professional.
02:23Trouble in paradise?
02:24Sorry, I'm moving on.
02:29What did you find at Abigail's apartment?
02:31Very little.
02:32I mean, no signs of a struggle.
02:33Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment, but we did find her laptop.
02:37Hold on.
02:37Film equipment?
02:38Abigail was making a movie?
02:39Yes.
02:45We should be safe here.
02:47Why are they doing this?
02:49Go.
02:50I'll try to buy some time.
02:51Please.
03:05I promise I'll pay.
03:09I'll pay the fine.
03:12I only saw an early cut.
03:15Could have used a bit more gore, if you ask me.
03:17I didn't.
03:18I asked why you thought Abigail's case was so compelling.
03:21Oh, right.
03:22Uh, because her Hollywood dream had become a Hollywood nightmare.
03:32Would you like me to take that again?
03:33I really wouldn't.
03:34When you searched Abigail's laptop, did you find anything on it?
03:37Yeah, it was filled with all of these unanswered messages.
03:40Nasty ones.
03:41The more we investigated, it became clear that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her.
03:46Like who?
03:47Okay, thank you.
03:47Thanks, Steve.
03:49Spielberg.
03:50He's an old friend.
03:52I bet.
03:53How did you get involved with, uh, Abigail Tierney?
03:55Oh, well, you know, we're always looking to, uh, discover and, uh, nurture the next generation
04:01of, uh, unheard voices.
04:03Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video.
04:05Terror isn't something that happens to you.
04:12I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, and star with that much, um, poise.
04:19Hell PD was one of those visionary, artist-driven pictures that, uh, we pride ourselves on making.
04:25And they're the cheapest, too, right?
04:27Well, hey, you know, the lower the budget, the higher the profit, if it's a hit.
04:31But the budget became an issue.
04:33Yeah, um, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick.
04:37But, uh, she kept changing directions.
04:40Please!
04:41The reshoot started piling up.
04:49And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project.
04:52What about nurturing a new generation of talent?
04:54Wait, look, there's, there's nurturing and there's indulging.
04:57I'm a businessman.
04:58There's no hard feelings.
04:59Really?
05:00Because I have an email from you with the subject line,
05:02Where the hell is my money, you lying sack?
05:04Uh, okay, yeah, fine.
05:05A few hard feelings.
05:07But they were nothing compared to some of those new producers she found.
05:11Those guys weren't playing around.
05:13Well, without the production company, Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding.
05:17When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video, I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies.
05:22And what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund if you can't use it to support the arts?
05:26And it wasn't just money, was it?
05:28No.
05:29I promise I'll pay.
05:31I'll pay the fund.
05:33All right, still rolling.
05:36Reset.
05:38Bravo!
05:39Bravo!
05:41So Abigail hires you to compose music for her film.
05:45What was it like to work with her?
05:46Complicated.
05:47She's very opinionated, which I respect.
05:51I tried not to take it personally when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing,
05:55but then when she completely disappeared and stopped answering my phone calls...
05:59That must have stung.
06:00It did until I learned that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, not just me.
06:03Then I got worried about her.
06:04I do wish she paid me, though.
06:07Hold up.
06:09You didn't get paid?
06:10Did you count experience?
06:11But it didn't provide you with the breakthrough you hoped.
06:14Even though a lot of crowd funders were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled, their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat.
06:20From the suspect's perspective, we were back to square one.
06:23Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips up to Pelican Bay.
06:26The prison?
06:27Yes.
06:27To visit who?
06:28A serial killer.
06:30Liam Glasser.
06:32In news that should bring some relief to the Southland, the LAPD have announced a major arrest charging Lincoln Heights native Liam Glasser
06:40with the murder of 10 victims found buried near the Sepulveda Dam.
06:44Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge.
06:48He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, as cover for his crimes, stashing his victims in Novak's burial ground.
06:56And it wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting to murder a new victim that we were finally able to put him behind bars.
07:03Before we start, I just want to make very clear that I'm an innocent man
07:10and the subject of an extraordinary campaign of harassment by the LAPD, particularly Detective Nyla Harper.
07:20You've been charged with the murder of 10 people.
07:22Those horrific allegations have not been proven in a court of law, and they never will be.
07:28You've also been charged with jury tampering.
07:30Like, if you're just going to railroad me like the police, then this interview is over.
07:35Hold on, hold on.
07:36I'm not here to talk about any of that.
07:38I want to talk about Abigail.
07:39Why did she come see you?
07:46To learn about Westview.
07:47Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center of Glasser's case.
07:50He was a patient?
07:51No, no, but his vending machine company supplied the hospital, and he was in and out of there for almost two decades.
07:58It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak, and where he found another patient, Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a Petsy.
08:05He used an abandoned building at the Psych Hospital complex to torture and kill his victims.
08:10Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward?
08:12Yes.
08:13But I couldn't help her much because I've never been there myself.
08:17Obviously not.
08:17But I told her what I'd heard.
08:20That the place was haunted, which is obviously crazy.
08:23But, um, when I was a kid, I would join my father on his service calls to Westview.
08:28He always told me to stay away from that building.
08:30Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him, and he was not a superstitious man.
08:39The thing that we couldn't understand was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection to the psych ward in the first place.
08:45It wasn't public knowledge?
08:46No, we kept those details away from the press deliberately.
08:49The only people who knew were Glasser and the police, and obviously Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there.
08:54Which means?
08:55What they don't tell you about making movies is that it's really boring.
08:59It's worse than surveillance.
09:01Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking about my recent case work, and it's possible I may have mentioned something about the psych ward.
09:08From Abigail's notes, we gathered that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project.
09:13That was shortly after meeting with Glasser.
09:14Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling was disconnected from real, lived experience.
09:20So that's when she decided to make a true crime documentary about Westview.
09:31Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953.
09:35It started as a model of modern humane care.
09:38But what lies beneath?
09:40The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed.
09:43Mysteries that defied explanation.
09:46How can one hospital spawn two serial killers?
09:49Some might say it's bad luck, but I don't believe in bad luck.
09:53Mm-mm.
09:54I think there's something rotten here.
09:57Original sin.
09:58And I'm gonna prove it.
10:00The footage on Abigail's hard drive shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward.
10:04Was that open to the public?
10:06No.
10:06After LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene, the hospital put up a razor wire fence,
10:12hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance to keep intruders open.
10:16But that clearly didn't work.
10:18Clearly.
10:18So we sent a patrol unit to check in with the guard.
10:21Mr. Dewaler!
10:22Yeah?
10:23We're investigating the disappearance of Abigail Tierney.
10:26Ah.
10:28Hey!
10:29Hey!
10:29Hey!
10:30Stop!
10:31Hands behind your back.
10:36Hands behind your back.
10:37Okay.
10:38Hands behind your back.
10:39At first, Carl Ditwiler claimed he did nothing wrong, that he never met Abigail.
11:00This is it.
11:01This is it.
11:02But when he searched his office, it was clear he was lying.
11:07Uh, Nolan?
11:08Oh, no.
11:09Abigail had become his obsession.
11:12Yeah.
11:13Things didn't look good for Mr. Ditwiler.
11:15And based on his board, it was clear he had become obsessed with Abigail. And now maybe she rejected his advances and things went sideways.
11:24It was sobering. I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive. But I've been on the job long enough to know that the odds were against that.
11:38Do you know how they first crossed paths?
11:39Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact. Uh, she was researching the abandoned psych ward for a documentary. And Carl was the night time security guard. She wanted access on the DL and she reached out and she...
11:59Slirted.
12:00Flirted.
12:01She flirted with him and he agreed to let her in.
12:03I just showed her around. I told her some stories, things that had gone on there back in the day. She was impressed. She actually asked me to help her with her documentary. Said she'd give me a credit on the film. Single card.
12:18If you're innocent, why'd you run?
12:20Cause I get what it looks like. I was the last person to see her before she disappeared.
12:24How do you know that?
12:26Cause I watched the darkness swallow her up.
12:30You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things to patients back in the day.
12:33Mm.
12:34I think that would be illegal now.
12:35Yeah. Yeah, I know. They used to do lobotomies. One of the orlies told me about it. He's worked here for, like, forever.
12:41You think you could introduce me to him?
12:43Uh...
12:45Yeah, I guess. Uh, just obviously, I can't tell him that I've let you in here.
12:51Come on, Carl. I would never rat you out. We're friends, right?
12:57Did you hear that? We're friends.
13:01Ah!
13:05Do you hear that?
13:06What? No.
13:07That noise, it's a weird sort of beautiful sound. You really don't hear it?
13:13No. No, but this building makes all kinds of weird noises.
13:16Hey, I just gotta go back to the main building, Radio Security, and let them know if I'm at my post.
13:20You go ahead. I'm gonna go check this out.
13:22I...
13:24What did you make of the sound Abigail described?
13:26We weren't sure. I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it.
13:29It's possible that she was faking to juice up her documentary.
13:33We've actually analyzed some of the audio files from Carl's video.
13:37Isolated the low-end frequencies. Here.
13:41What is that?
13:43I was hoping you could tell me. Sounds...
13:46Bermonic.
13:47Is that even a frequency humans can hear?
13:49Not technically, no.
13:54Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear, Abigail kept searching.
13:59Sure about this?
14:00Yeah, I'll be right back.
14:02Hello? Hello?
14:04Can you hear me?
14:06And that was the last anyone had seen her.
14:09But Carl could have just turned off his camera and then killed Abigail, right?
14:12We couldn't rule him out as a suspect, but we only had circumstantial evidence against him.
14:17And as we went through the footage on Abigail's laptop, we discovered that flirting with Carl wasn't her only extreme research tactic.
14:23I'm gonna start this.
14:25Should I turn into it? I'm gonna turn into it.
14:28Okay. I'm back at Westview.
14:32And if I'm gonna learn more about how the old psych ward operated, I'm gonna need to see their files.
14:37Obviously, I can't just walk around filming people, so...
14:43To camp.
14:46See?
14:48Okay.
14:51Wish me luck.
14:55Abigail had Carl lure the director away from her office so Abigail could sneak inside.
15:01Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name in Abigail's footage was definitely a shock.
15:23You both have a history with Ms. Hall, is that right?
15:25Yes. So, uh, she and I went to college together and, um, her and Tim...
15:31I'm sorry.
15:33Yeah, we used to date.
15:35Before or after you two.
15:37Okay, next question.
15:38I'm simply trying to establish a timeline.
15:41No problem. I'll just ask her later.
15:44I, uh, worked in the psych ward at Westview for a year while getting my social work degree.
15:49It was, um, challenging.
15:51How so?
15:52Uh, for one thing, the, uh, patients would often arrive at the facility with, say, uh, a diagnosis of mild depression.
15:59And a week later, they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking. Eventually, they might become violent.
16:05The decompensation was sudden and acute.
16:08You're saying they would get worse, not better.
16:10Yes, and conventional treatments seem to never work.
16:13Someone suggested, uh, supernatural presence at Westview. Could that have impacted the patients?
16:18Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior doesn't mean there isn't one.
16:24Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities of modern science to discover.
16:28Or maybe it's demons?
16:31There are no demons at Westview.
16:34There are totally demons at Westview.
16:37Well, what's another explanation for everything that's happened?
16:40We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak, and most recently, uh, Ava...
16:45Maxwell.
16:46Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell.
16:48This man came out in a big overcoat, black mask, big knife.
16:52Hang on a moment. I know that Ava and Charlotte were never treated at Westview, so what's the connection?
16:56Oh, you didn't hear. Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager.
17:00Yes, yes, I was at Westview.
17:02I had, um, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out.
17:06My family was very concerned, so they arranged for me to receive the best care available.
17:11And did the treatment help?
17:12Not at first. I'd been experiencing a... a darkness that I had never felt before, and at first I fought it.
17:20And then I realized that struggling only made everything worse, and once I accepted it,
17:25that's when things started to get better.
17:27And I left Westview, and I finished school, and I eventually made a little life for myself.
17:32You were the nanny for the Russell family.
17:34Yes, Charlotte and I were very, very close.
17:38Well, I... I know that everyone's saying just the worst things about her right now,
17:43but in my eyes she is a poised and gifted young woman, and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that.
17:50As odd as it was to find that connection, it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more.
17:55Charlotte Russell convinced her friend Ava to help her stab their other friend Grace Thayer.
18:00Her actions were her own. They're not inspired by some nanny with a history of mental illness,
18:05or some demon in a computer that convinced Charlotte to do it.
18:08I'm sorry, computer demon?
18:10Zuzu is not a demon. Not a demon. It's an AI.
18:14Charlotte fed Zuzu information about herself and her friends, and based on that,
18:18Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear.
18:21Zuzu also helped you, isn't that right, Officer Nolan?
18:24It mentioned something to me about a watch.
18:27You spoke to it?
18:29Hello, friend of John Nolan.
18:31Hi. Should I call you Zuzu?
18:33If you want to. Do you need help with something?
18:36Perhaps a topic for a new project. Your last few have struggled.
18:40They've done fine, thanks, but I actually want to talk to you about Westview Psychiatric.
18:44John was interested in the two.
18:47That young woman Abigail went missing there.
18:49Are you saying the police asked you to help find her?
18:52No, but they needed my help anyway.
18:55And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked.
18:58Zuzu did send me a message.
18:59What did it say?
19:00It told me that Abigail was in room 666.
19:04The number of the beast?
19:07Look, the facility had no room 666, and Zuzu isn't a demon.
19:12We were at a complete dead end, and we were running out of time.
19:16Abigail had been gone for 11 days.
19:18The odds of finding her alive were getting worse.
19:21Yeah, we were out of options.
19:23Until the 911 call came in.
19:25Apparently, there were suspicious noises and lights coming from this abandoned wing.
19:30So, we went to check it out.
19:36Police! Coming in!
19:37Control, 7 Adam 100. No signs of break-in here.
19:40Did RP say where they saw the light?
19:42I think the radio's blocked.
19:43I had some idiot kids trying to scare each other.
19:44Yeah.
19:45When was the last time it rained?
19:46Like a month ago.
19:47Why?
19:48Oh.
19:49Walls are wet.
19:50Yeah.
19:51What is this place?
19:52And how did you two get involved?
19:53Uh, Selena and I were about to clock out when we got the call.
19:56God, I hate this place.
19:57How many messed up things have to happen before they tear it down?
20:01Apparently, the ownership is under dispute.
20:03Westview says that they hold the deed, but...
20:05There's this claim by this Lucifer.
20:06Lucifer?
20:07Lucifer!
20:08Oh my God.
20:09You're messing with me.
20:10Yes I am.
20:11Come on.
20:12Let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here.
20:14Don't step in there.
20:14Look.
20:15Uh...
20:16Don't step in there.
20:17Oh, okay.
20:19Oh.
20:20lucifer lucifer oh my god you're messing with me yes i am come on let's go find tim and lucy and
20:30get out of here don't step in that did you see that someone's flashlight and that i do not know
20:50what that was
20:51police show us your head we have permission to be here that's not totally true no all right
21:19unfortunately gentlemen you are trespassing you're gonna have to come with us
21:23what are you doing here filming an episode sir ghost files i love you guys what is ghost files
21:32welcome to ghost files where we take your evidence and our tools into the field to expose the
21:37supernatural my partner a skeptic myself a believer both of us truth seekers this week our team has
21:44traveled to los angeles california to explore a condemned psychiatric facility now in 1841 this
21:51was the site of a spanish barracks but a massive earthquake swallowed the building killing everyone
21:56inside many saw the event as retribution for spanish crimes committed in the new world
22:00sure or an earthquake happened in a region prone to earthquakes but that's just the beginning of
22:07this site's dark history join us as we investigate at that time did you believe the facility was haunted
22:14no yes you were filming there too did you experience any temperature fluctuations or anything like that
22:21i'll ask the questions if you don't mind we do but this is my documentary no this is our youtube show
22:28yeah so ghosts are said to produce electromagnetic interference did you experience any trouble with
22:34your equipment we're done here let's uh cut let's wrap this up
22:42nice yeah all of you let's go come on no no way this is some of the best footage we've ever got
22:51listen to this what is that well it's a spirit box did you guys hear anything a spirit box the spirit
22:56box rapidly scans radio signals to create white noise through which spirits can communicate
23:02hello see it's science listen
23:08okay okay that's enough look we gotta go i heard something can you turn it up
23:16help me that is not what i heard whoa uh who do you think it is it's feedback it's a ghost
23:31it was a little clearer down the hallway show me officer
23:36so we're just gonna give up on tim and lucy then how long have we been in here
23:44this room yeah i don't know we've been here for a while right yeah i mean i don't mind i feel good
23:56like really good do you think we've been drugged oh the wet walls we touched them yeah i hate making
24:11mistakes in front of you oh you've never admitted that before
24:17truth serum sodium pentothal yeah you know what we we should keep quiet until this wears off no
24:27yeah it's better for us no what is um your most embarrassing memory i mean third grade
24:37uh-huh i snuck my hamster into my classroom in my pants
24:54with that kind of dad you internalize the message that if you fail you deserve to be punished
25:01and without him to punish me i i guess i punished myself by breaking up with me yep i mean it's kind
25:12of flattering right it's the worst thing i could think to do to myself you didn't punish just yourself
25:17though i know and look if you never fully forgive me i totally understand i have already forgiven you
25:31huh i wonder when that happened you can't put that in the documentary the lapd makes all body cam
25:38footage available to the public this is obviously an exception we were drugged people people say all
25:44sorts of things when they've been drugged so you didn't mean what you said what about the potential
25:50baby names you discussed okay we're done here yeah why do we keep agreeing to do this i don't know
25:54excuse me okay you have to admit that's a voice asking for help yeah sure i heard but it's one of
26:00their crew members or something pre-recorded were you a patient here is the demon with you somebody
26:05covered up a door what year did you die stand back guys okay watch out ready go oh wow
26:24thank you thank you thank you i've been trapped in here for so long i thought i was gonna die thank
26:34you oh my god what is this room yeah but why did they wall it all off to trap the demon yeah bartleby
26:41the terrifying demon king of paperwork how did you get down here i was exploring following this this
26:49weird beautiful noise when all of a sudden it got cold like so so cold and i could feel something
26:56coming after me and i was scared so i hid behind a cabinet but the floor was wet and rusted and it
27:02collapsed i i couldn't climb back out you fell from there are you okay i think i twisted my ankle but i
27:08feel no pain you've been missing for two weeks how the hell did you survive oh
27:13oh i had a bunch of trail mix in my bag plus i found like this ancient water jug in one of the
27:22cabinets plus bob bob had power bars bob had power bars bob oh oh god if it wasn't for bob i would have
27:32lost my mind down here don't be shy bob say hello abigail was safe and uh considering what she'd been
27:43through uh relatively healthy except for her mental state that did pose some questions at first i was
27:52angry you know like we're stuck down here together at least try and have a conversation and then i
27:58realized bob's just shy he's just shy and there's nothing wrong with that right right did you believe
28:05she'd had a demonic encounter she went in perfectly sane and came out best friends with the corpse
28:12that's how possession works you can't rule out demons yes you can nolan look at this
28:20six six six just like zuzu said it was a weird coincidence it was a weird coincidence
28:31we found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system i don't do drugs
28:35this pot count no we're talking about powerful hallucinogens i'm not hallucinating ask bob
28:44i had them run the test twice and we found a similar cocktail in officer chen and sergeant bradford
28:50mercifully none of the drugs were fat soluble otherwise department policy would have forced
28:56sergeant bradford and officer chin into medical retirement is that what killed bob whatever
29:02drug they were exposed to no he was shot six times in the chest did you get an id on the body his name
29:09was bob medina a friend reporting him missing about six months ago he was a private investigator what
29:14was his connection to the hospital at first we couldn't find one so to be clear there was now a third
29:20killer associated with that location at this point it can't be a coincidence there has to be something
29:24about that facility that drives people towards homicides uh that's a stretch and a half west view
29:29is a hospital for the mentally ill and the criminally insane novak was a patient glass was there looking
29:34for a patsy and whoever killed bob saw an abandoned building was like that's a perfect place to dump a
29:38body what or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it you really believe that i'm catholic i was
29:49raised on demons in the battle against satan's minions well i was raised on the scientific method
29:55okay so if it's also explainable spend the night there i dare you pass you're scared no i'm not
30:03scared one could argue the drugs in the hospital are hardly surprising even hallucinogens over the
30:09decades they have been used in experimental medicine no true uh just the the type and volume is what
30:14set up what are you doing conducting an interview could you please come back in like an hour you
30:20said you'd talk to me for my documentary you have a documentary well it's my story who better to tell
30:25it well no problem i i can sit down with you just as soon as we're done here i wish it has to be
30:29exclusive you can't do both she's right it has to be exclusive either you're doing my doctor you're doing
30:35hers and we have a long history i was almost his daughter-in-law so suck it i'm gonna have to go with
30:42her i'm sorry seriously i i have a bafta okay fine let's wrap it up this way the set's this way
30:51it's better lighting over there we got a great team um we are gonna need our mic back yes oh yeah
30:56of course we have our own sorry i'll see you guys around good luck what else i found inside the secret
31:03lab oh right well uh you you did find some paperwork explosive paperwork evidence of a secret government
31:11program close the door softly please well i don't know that we can say that for sure oh we could
31:19my name is abigail tierney i'm currently trapped inside a secret lab at westview psychiatric all
31:25attempts that escape have proven fruitless if i'm gonna die here i leave you this footage along with my
31:30and process documentary as evidence of my hunt for the truth about the evils that inhabit this occursive
31:37place
31:44cool that's when i realized i'd uncovered something more haunting than any ghost or serial killer
31:50i'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to the very highest levels of our government
31:55the government files abigail found detailed classified plans and methods for human
32:03experimentation what type of experimentation are you familiar with mk ultra of course it was a top
32:09secret cia program in the 50s and 60s using experimental drugs to aid in interrogation techniques it was
32:15straight up mind control i mean they used high doses of psychoactive drugs like lsd sodium pentothal which is
32:21also known as a truth serum the program ran from 1953 to 1973 before it was shut down following a
32:30public outcry i mean all the facilities were closed there's no evidence the cia ever used westview as
32:35a base of operations so what were top secret mk ultra documents doing there good question we started
32:41digging into the trova files abigail had found and one name kept popping up again and again dr julius erickson
32:49he was one of these psychologists contracted by the cia to conduct experimental
32:54research and after mk ultra shut down he took a new job director of westview dr erickson ran the
33:01hospital for 20 years and from the notes we uncovered it seems clear he continued his own research in
33:07private trying to use the psychological breakthroughs from mk ultra to further his own research into mind
33:12altering drugs i assume you use those drugs on westview patients yeah at first but then he started
33:18using them on himself believing he had found the key to improving his own mind he hadn't and in a
33:23last moment of lucidity erickson decided to destroy his research he dumped the chemicals outside the
33:29building where they started to slowly seep into the structure and some of the drugs were potent enough
33:33to be absorbed simply by touch even when diluted erickson committed himself to westview shortly after
33:39never said another word he died in 2020 did the cia ever find out what erickson was doing not that we've
33:46found but it's not like the agency ever returns our phone calls
33:52anyone who studied the past knows that the cia has a history of violent cover-ups mk ultra might have
33:59become public but that doesn't mean there still aren't secrets to protect by uncovering dr erickson's
34:04connection to westview and uh discovering bob's body i've put myself in danger but the best way to
34:11protect yourself is with the truth which brings me to carolyn mcgrath turns out carolyn is the one
34:18who hired bob to go to westview and i need to find out why before it's too late
34:23what the hell we got lucky a woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion and filmed
34:40abigail's abduction thanks to them we were able to track the vehicle where'd it go back to where it all
34:45began westfield
34:53police drop the weapon on the ground hands on your head turn around walk towards my partner hands behind
35:01your back you okay yeah totally fine carl's going through it though god never really even knew my
35:08mother does anyone really what is going on here well uh my friend carl here was being pressured into
35:14killing me um but then we got to talking right yeah and i couldn't yeah we keep pushing by who
35:21um my boss meg davidson who the current director at westview psychiatric
35:30but she started working at the hospital long after julius erickson went mad and she has no links
35:35to the cia so why would she try to kill abigail to cover up bob's murder and who killed bob can you
35:42introduce yourself oh yes my name is caroline mcgrath you hired my friend bob medina because
35:49you had questions about your friend winona's treatment at westview right yes of course everyone
35:53thought i was just being paranoid but bob didn't and it got him killed you work with winona baker right
36:00yes um she was hospitalized with depression by her daughter seemed like therapy and some
36:07medication would help her but winona got worse fast i lost track of reality she exhibited signs of
36:16psychosis paranoia dissociation and by that point i wondered whether a transfer to a new facility might be
36:22in her best interest and then uh the director informed me that winona's family had gotten a judge
36:28to order a conservatorship and they wanted her to stay for good you were suspicious winona always had
36:35her funks but she wasn't crazy until that place made her lose her mind and that proved to be the break
36:41you needed yeah when we started looking into it it turned out a significant number of westview patients
36:47were wealthy and a high percentage were ordered into conservatorship no uh conservatorship is extremely
36:54difficult to get for an adult because of the potential uh abuse of power it gives one party legal
36:59authority over certain aspects of another person's life including managing all their assets it's like
37:04what happened to britney spears manage their assets rich person speak for controlling someone else's money
37:10yes and money makes people do crazy things like um poison their family members water with a chemical
37:18cocktail so potent it has the potential to permanently damage the human psyche
37:25yeah just like that i was supposed to inherit but um after my break with reality my dad cut me
37:35off and uh my brother got everything what's everything oh about um 12 million dollars must
37:41have been hard going from that kind of wealth to nannying oh no no it was a blessing i i really think
37:48that helping children was my calling once we found the pattern we started interviewing some of the families
37:54a little pressure and they cracked and with the search warrant we found the gun used to kill bop
37:59adina and director davidson's closet she'd been running her scam for a decade turns out she was
38:05dr erickson's therapist in the last years of his life he must have told her about his experiments in
38:11exploring his old lab she'd uncovered the tainted water realized its potential yeah we had her on
38:18murder fraud elder abuse kidnapping attempted murder poisoning miss davidson would you like to make a
38:25comment you know this might be your last chance to tell your side of the story
38:30look at all these people watching the state ordered a full investigation into every conservatorship
38:37westview ordered god willing the victims will get their rights and assets back and westview itself
38:43has been closed for good but the lawsuits are just starting not to mention the rest of the legal
38:48ramifications i'm glad this is getting so much attention these poor abused patients can finally get
38:55justice do you think it could impact your case at all certainly it gives my defense a fresh coat of paint
39:01the jury won't listen to reason because i am innocent perhaps they will listen to the tragic story of a
39:08simple tradesman falling victim to a poisoned environment that chemically affected my psyche
39:15and what did that environment make you do who can say certainly not me i i wasn't in my right mind yeah
39:26the um the poisoned water was only found in the abandoned psych ward no vending machines left to fill there
39:32right at this point i must confess i did go inside that abandoned ward back when i was a kid my father's
39:41warnings they didn't scare me away they only made me more desperate to see and whatever lurked inside
39:52must have infected me
39:56hmm glasser's claiming that the presence of those drugs would absolve him of any alleged
40:01responsibility for the murders there is no way that defense is going to work we have glasser dead to
40:05rights are you sure about that hey hey sorry i know we talked about me not recording interviews in
40:27here but raj mentioned he needed a space with great acoustics and um and you know we're acting we're
40:33shutting it down we're shutting it down we're shutting it down shut it shutting it down copy
40:39hi sorry she said this was cool you're gonna help me get these in the van yeah i'll be right there
40:45next time handcuffs and squad cars yeah totally understandable thanks again for going exclusive
40:53with me seriously this talk is going to be huge i hope so you deserve something good after what you've
40:59been through how are you holding up oh i'm fine i'm happy to have something to focus on when i've
41:06been through some scary times i have been guilty of using my work as my therapy but if there's
41:12there ever a time you need someone to talk to thank you really but i already have a great therapist one
41:18with zero history at westview excellent you know there's still something i can't figure out how did you
41:25know that the pi was working for caroline mcgrath oh bob told me while we were stuck in the lab he got
41:33chatty once he opened up i have that effect on people we have to come back because our job isn't
41:41finished this hospital has housed killers evil experiments and perhaps the supernatural our job
41:46as investigators is to collect and present questions and possibilities interpretation however solely belongs
41:54with you did westview really
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