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00:00Welcome to Real Talk, where it gets hot, spicy, and to the drama.
00:05Sarah, we had so much fun last time.
00:07I mean, we talked about everything.
00:09Your origin story, your villain origin story.
00:12Are you single right now?
00:16You're not single.
00:18No.
00:19Okay, tell me a little bit about that.
00:20Sure.
00:20That was, like, definitely a curveball.
00:22I know, and I know I wasn't going to say anything until we were live.
00:26Okay.
00:26So, um, no, I'm not single.
00:29But this is the area that I do not share on the internet.
00:35This is the one thing that I don't post photos of, that I'm not conventional, like,
00:42oh, me and my boyfriend, like, traveling, going on a trip.
00:45Like, I prefer to keep that for me and not have people reaching out to him or doing that thing.
00:53Because I've actually made that mistake before with a previous boyfriend where I was like,
00:56oh, cute, like, photos of us together and doing things together.
01:00And then it kind of got weird, actually, where my current boyfriend would never do this.
01:07And gosh, I was dating, like, a terrible guy, like, a musician, classic.
01:11And, um, he was kind of, like, using my clout a little bit, and it got weird.
01:17And then, you know, you break up, and then it's, like, awkward.
01:20It's not like I'm at the point of where I would have to make an announcement about a divorce or something.
01:26But it was uncomfortable.
01:28Yeah.
01:29It was weird.
01:29So, I definitely, my dating life, I don't share the human online at all.
01:37Yeah.
01:37So, that's a thing.
01:38Yeah.
01:38I completely understand that.
01:39I mean, being an actress and a media personality, I can imagine that, like, kind of getting kind of blurred
01:44and not knowing where those boundaries are, you know, especially when you have this type of following.
01:50Yeah.
01:51And this type of influence, and you're working with these brands.
01:53But that was, like, such a curveball.
01:55I did not expect that.
01:56I know.
01:57I know.
01:57I know.
01:58It's so juicy.
01:58And the thing is, too, I just feel like it's something that no one needs to know, really.
02:06It's nice.
02:07It's not like I'm, like, hiding him.
02:09But it's, like, I don't want the whole world to see it because it's special to me and only me, kind of.
02:17Yeah.
02:18But, like, it's not like we're, like, hiding out in the house and we never leave or go in public or anything.
02:21Like, we have friends, you know.
02:22I just don't post him.
02:23Yeah.
02:24I completely understand.
02:25I feel that way sometimes about my emotional state.
02:28Like, I feel like it's so private that the humanness, I don't want to bring it.
02:33So, it's interesting to see that you apply that in your relationship.
02:36Like, you know, you have that kind of vulnerability with your person.
02:40And you don't think that that's something that should be shared with just anyone.
02:43Yeah.
02:44Just, like, I don't think that my inner being needs to be seen.
02:49Exactly.
02:49Like, experienced by just every person.
02:51It's, like, I'm so comfortable sharing everything.
02:55Like, I would rather do a live stream of me on a toilet, like, mid-situation, than sharing my partner.
03:05Um, even though I know that sounds so strange.
03:09Yeah, but why is that?
03:09Like, because me, I think.
03:11He's also not an actor.
03:12So, I don't want.
03:14You don't want to expose him to that world.
03:15It's, it's just, he doesn't really care about that stuff.
03:21And, I don't know.
03:23I also just, nowadays, at least for me and where I'm at, it's, like, my Instagram is my portfolio, kind of.
03:31And, yeah, I keep it real in me, my real life and everything.
03:35But, I just don't need to post him, you know.
03:38Yeah, it's, like, more for, like, a little.
03:39He doesn't care either.
03:40Like, we kind of, we're cool because we don't really, like, we're not on Instagram together, like, scrolling that much.
03:45You're very much in the moment.
03:47And, yeah, I just, I like to keep it like that.
03:50And, I'm not saying this, that we're going to break up.
03:54But, if we did, then it's, like, I don't want to have to, then it gets awkward when I get a new boyfriend.
03:59Yeah.
04:00Or something.
04:00It's just.
04:01Would you say, like, when you guys tie the knot, you'll be less secretive?
04:04Yeah, for sure.
04:06Because it'll be more secure, too.
04:07Or, like, move in together or something like that.
04:08Or something like that.
04:09Yeah.
04:09But, it's just, yeah.
04:11How would you say you balance, like, everything?
04:14I mean, you're doing so much.
04:15I don't.
04:16You're such a creator.
04:17I don't.
04:18Like, okay.
04:19No balance.
04:20There is no balance, which is something that I'm personally working on in my life.
04:24Like, we all have things to work on.
04:25And me, it's knowing that I'm going to still be successful.
04:31And we're a busy actress, busy casting director, whatever my next thing will be.
04:36I'm allowed to, like, go on a walk or go on a little trip.
04:40And not just be, like, working, working, working.
04:44Because I just feel like it's really hard for me to not think about work.
04:49And not be like, oh, someone less talented than me is working harder.
04:53Yeah.
04:53So, I'm also less talented than other actresses that are working less hard than me.
05:00And I have a bigger career than they do.
05:02Yeah.
05:03So, I'm just kind of, like, I always have to be trying.
05:06But that's also not good for your sanity.
05:10Yeah.
05:10No, because you constantly have to keep going.
05:12Yeah.
05:13You constantly have to achieve.
05:14So, I think maybe you would say that's something, like, that you have to balance.
05:19Yes.
05:19I have to be better.
05:20You have to balance balancing.
05:22Yes.
05:22I, because I'm just, like, work, work, work, work, work.
05:26Like, workaholic.
05:28Yeah.
05:28I would say I'm a workaholic, too.
05:29Especially when we bring in those emotions of, like, feeling at home on set.
05:35Yeah.
05:35And I, for me, I don't drink.
05:37I don't smoke.
05:39And I'm a vegan.
05:41And it's not that I think I'm better than anyone.
05:43Like, trust me, I don't.
05:44It's just this.
05:45I am super susceptible to depression.
05:48So, if I drink alcohol, the next day, game over.
05:51I get so disgustingly hungover.
05:54I can't even casually drink, really.
05:56Wow.
05:56It sucks.
05:56It's actually annoying.
05:58Are you, like, lightweight, like, one or two drinks?
05:59Oh, girl.
06:00At this point, two sips.
06:02I'm, like.
06:02Two sips?
06:04Like, and it's a fun time.
06:06Like, I'm the life of the party.
06:07Like, I'm great.
06:09But then the next day, I'm really sad.
06:11And so, I also, like, weed, too.
06:14I hate it.
06:15I wish I could do it.
06:17It doesn't work for me.
06:18So, I have nothing to, like, calm me down.
06:20I started taking my museum.
06:21Take you away to distract you.
06:23Yeah.
06:23Yeah.
06:23So, I just.
06:24So, how do you get away?
06:26And how do you get distracted?
06:27Don't.
06:28Like, that, again, this is, like, the area that I'm working on the most as an individual
06:33is being able to put my phone down, get out of the slack, and just talk to my friend or
06:42go for a walk or do something that's not the phone or, like, submitting to a casting
06:50or text or responding to a manager or, like, the whole thing.
06:54It's just.
06:55You're just on the go.
06:56She's always on the go.
06:57Always.
06:57And I have two serious jobs, like, where I do casting and acting, so a lot of times
07:02I do them at the same time.
07:04So, I really, like, I'm doing a lot at once, and I love it.
07:07Like, I love it so much, but I really, I tell this to my boyfriend, too, where I'm, like,
07:14I'm, I need to figure out how to, like, I don't want to be, like, kind of, like, the
07:20boomer generation where they, like, bring their work home.
07:23Yeah.
07:24And, you know, always talking about the job or whatever.
07:27And I want to be, like, okay, like, let's, like, have a fun time now and, like, vibe
07:31out and, like, who cares what's going on in the email chain?
07:34What do you think could help you with that?
07:36I don't know.
07:36Any suggestions?
07:38Please drop a comment.
07:39Like.
07:39Yes.
07:40Send over some suggestions.
07:41I can't do the weed.
07:41I can't do the alcohol.
07:43I eat, like, really healthy, but that's fine.
07:46I don't know.
07:46I do work out and I do yoga, but that's not really going to do it.
07:50I don't know.
07:51I take magnesium.
07:53That has helped me a lot.
07:55Magnesium's great.
07:56It actually, a thousand percent is.
07:58If you have sleep issues, take magnesium.
08:00I promise you it'll help.
08:02I don't know.
08:03Because if you're on your phone, I, I'm just so addicted to my phone.
08:08Yeah.
08:08I'm so addicted to it.
08:10We all are.
08:10I'm even, like, where is it right now?
08:12We're, like, it's, like, literally, if it's not close to me, I kind of feel it.
08:15Yeah.
08:16Oh, yeah.
08:16I'm, like, where is my phone right now?
08:18It's bad.
08:19Yeah.
08:19It's so bad.
08:20I'm so addicted to it.
08:21So, also, then I get really bad ADD where I'm, like, on the phone and then I'm, like,
08:25wait, what am I supposed to be doing?
08:26And I'm, like, oh, shit, I never sent that email.
08:28And then I'm, like, oh, my God, I have to do this.
08:30And then you just do it all.
08:31And then I'm, like, it's midnight.
08:35So, there's been a lot of cases where I've worked from the moment I have my eyes till they
08:38shut.
08:39Oh, my God.
08:39I know.
08:40And that's, I know, it's bad.
08:41It's so bad because you got to memorize your lines.
08:45You got to, like, do that.
08:46Like, the acting person.
08:47And they're moving.
08:48You know how it is.
08:49Yeah.
08:49So, how do you balance that with having a relationship?
08:53Because, I mean.
08:55He's so understanding.
08:57Like, so understanding.
08:57You said he's not in the field.
08:58He's just not an actor.
09:00Okay.
09:00But he so gets it and is also building his own career.
09:05And he's really successful.
09:06And he's a director.
09:08So, he also.
09:09So, he gets your world.
09:12But he also doesn't get the verticals sometimes.
09:15Because he's like, wait.
09:17Okay.
09:17You have to memorize how much for tomorrow?
09:20Like, you're doing 17 scenes?
09:22Like, yeah.
09:23That's my big day.
09:24Yeah, because it's more fast-paced and more than traditional.
09:26Yeah.
09:27So, but it's.
09:30We have a really good relationship where.
09:36It's not that work comes first, but it does.
09:40And, like, I accept that with him, too.
09:42Even if we're having dinner or something.
09:43And he's getting a call from his producer.
09:46Like, I know.
09:46Like, that's a huge job.
09:48You understand.
09:48Like, I'm not going to be like, what?
09:50So, I guess that's where the balance happens.
09:52By prioritizing and knowing that work for both of you guys fulfills you.
09:56So, I'm really happy for you.
09:58I mean, that was definitely a curveball.
09:59I didn't know my girl was taken.
10:01No one knows.
10:02And it's actually, like, very, very, like, exciting.
10:06Because even, like, a little secret that you have between you two.
10:10Before finding him, was it difficult finding or just dating in the industry?
10:15Would you say?
10:15Oh, my God.
10:16It's terrible.
10:17It's.
10:18Like, I know dating in our generation is just awful anywhere.
10:22But living in Los Angeles, good night.
10:25It's disturbing.
10:27I, we met on a dating app.
10:31Even though we work in the same entertainment industry.
10:34But, one, I don't ever meet anyone on set that I'm going to date.
10:38Because it's also weird if you're dating someone that you work with that close.
10:41Like, no, absolutely not.
10:43And, plus, I'm just not into it.
10:44And there's just nowhere to, like, meet people.
10:47Yeah, like, where do you go?
10:48I don't, I don't know.
10:49Everything is online.
10:51You have to date on the apps.
10:53Like, it's just, like, kind of how you do it nowadays, I feel like.
10:56I have no idea.
10:58When I was single.
10:59Okay, well, actually, this is actually a funny story.
11:03So, I was on the dating app because I was trying to get more self-confidence in my dating.
11:09Because I was the type.
11:10Oh, my gosh.
11:11Everyone's going to hate this.
11:12It's disgusting.
11:14Don't ever do it.
11:15All the girlies in here watching, don't ever do this.
11:18So, I'd be, I was the one that would be, like, yeah, like, do you want to split it?
11:23No.
11:25I can't forgive you.
11:27I know.
11:28I know.
11:30Or I'd be, like, and you, I'd be, like, oh, yeah, like, wherever you want.
11:33Like, sure.
11:34Like, easygoing.
11:36Like, cool, girl.
11:37Like, I'll do whatever.
11:38And then that bit me in the ass.
11:40And then I had to learn a lesson.
11:43You have to learn.
11:44And then I went on the dating apps to try on a character.
11:48What I would do is I'd be, like, okay, you're going to go on this date and you're not going
11:50to reach for your bag.
11:51You're not going to reach for your wallet.
11:52You're just going to sit there and be cute and be, like, yeah, like, you can pay my dinner.
11:55And that's fine.
11:56And I'm not a diva for that, but that's what I expect.
12:00Yes.
12:00So I tried on these, a little bit of different personality traits of being more confident,
12:06being more, yeah, like, I'm the type of girl that, like, you're going to pay for me and
12:10that's fine.
12:11And I don't, that's what it is.
12:12And these are the things I need in a man, even though I didn't really need that.
12:18So I was dating.
12:19I would find guys that it wouldn't work with.
12:21Then I met my boyfriend.
12:23Oh my gosh.
12:24He was like, yeah, of course.
12:25This is what you deserve.
12:27What do you need?
12:28You're telling me what I have to do to date you.
12:31So I'm going to do that.
12:33And once I dated him, once I met him, I was like, wow, all these other guys, like, didn't
12:38actually give a shit.
12:39Yeah.
12:40You'll find someone that will not.
12:42It just makes it easy for you and will make it easy for you to be the person you need to
12:47be and the woman you want to be.
12:48Without it being, like, awkward or feeling, like, weird or, like, oh my gosh, am I going
12:53to, is this okay that I'm acting this way?
12:56Where there will be someone that is just like, yeah, that's how it is.
12:59Yeah.
13:00That's 100% how it is.
13:01So that, I was, not like I was pretending to be someone else, but I was just being a little
13:08more confident version of myself.
13:10And I wrote down in a journal things that I wanted in a boyfriend or that I, the way I
13:16wanted to be treated, and then I was like, okay, I don't, as Sarah, I don't really feel
13:21that confident to act that way, but I was like, who cares?
13:24I don't even know this guy.
13:25Like, whatever.
13:26You just became what you wanted.
13:27Yeah.
13:28And then now it's the thing, and I haven't paid for dinner.
13:33Listen, ladies.
13:34Why don't we switch places and I can ask you some dating questions?
13:38Okay, let's talk about building relationships, love, all that kind of stuff.
13:52So it's freaking hard to date in this day and age, especially in the entertainment industry.
13:57So you also work in this game.
14:00So what's it like for you?
14:01I mean, like we live in LA.
14:03Are you dating?
14:04I mean, I feel like nowadays it's just all about boundaries and I feel like there's no
14:11clear way to establish them because you have the online world, you have the entertainment
14:16world, you have your career self.
14:19So it's just really been figuring that out and figuring out how to navigate through all
14:24the spaces that I'm in currently.
14:27You know, you're an actress, you're a media personality, balancing that out.
14:31You know, you said you had an ex that would use your clout.
14:35Oh, yeah.
14:36So you can only imagine.
14:38Oh, for sure.
14:39It's like, I don't know, I feel like thinking back to our parents' generation, they have
14:46like one job.
14:48It was a little easier for them.
14:50They got married.
14:51They did the thing.
14:52You meet your husband and wife, whatever.
14:54You have the kids.
14:55Even if it's boring, it's still a path that's simpler.
15:00Yeah.
15:00We have so much shit going on.
15:02It's like, I don't even know where you meet people.
15:05Like, I met my boyfriend on an app.
15:07Like, what are your thoughts on the apps?
15:09Listen, I, um.
15:13The apps are something I stay away from just because there's so many people that I
15:17professionally work with.
15:18Oh, shit.
15:19That actually pop up.
15:21Stop it.
15:21Yes.
15:22Have you been on there scrolling and you saw someone that you're like, ha, manage that
15:25one.
15:25Yeah.
15:25Know the reality behind that.
15:27Or, you know, you just don't want to open those doors and you want to keep things so
15:30professional.
15:31And then it's like you meet an actor or director and then the next day you're scrolling down
15:35hinge on your personal life and they pop up and you're like, awkward.
15:40Do you feel like it being on a dating app?
15:43It like dilutes your brand a little bit.
15:46Like you as a human, like you feel like it's kind of like, um, like a loser.
15:49I'm on a dating app.
15:50It's just really difficult to, you know, just like you have a role.
15:53I feel like I have a role that I have to play for my job.
15:56And it's a little difficult to separate the two because, you know, there's a fun side to me.
16:01Right.
16:01But there's also the person that's managing a brand.
16:05Right.
16:06Which is, could be a lot problematic.
16:09That's why everything you, you said, I was just so admired by because it's like, you're
16:13so comfortable in just showing those things and not have to polish, polish.
16:19So I'm wondering, like, how is that for you in like the dating life?
16:22Like you, like you said, you kind of just had fun with it.
16:25Yeah.
16:26You just went out and just dated.
16:28And like, if you played a role and, and, and that's how I feel like that's how things
16:33happen.
16:33Um, I also think like back in the day, um, you know, our mother and our father generation,
16:40everything was a little more traditional, more purposeful.
16:43And I think now since like, there's so much out there, everything is so I'd say disposable
16:51nowadays.
16:53So I feel like, okay.
16:56So I found my boyfriend and he's the type that literally lets me be feral.
17:02And no questions at, no questions asked.
17:05He's just like, you do you, you're like your own thing.
17:08And he kind of just like supports me.
17:11And it's so hard to find that.
17:13Yeah.
17:13He's from the South.
17:14Like he, that's why we need to go to the South.
17:16I think the boys in the South are a little nicer.
17:20I don't know any of the girl he's watching.
17:21Can you let me know?
17:22Yes.
17:22In the comments or do you, we're both from the East coast.
17:24So we know the East coast and now we know about lay.
17:27So maybe we just need to go to like the South, like we're in the South.
17:31I don't know.
17:32I don't.
17:33Oh wait, where is he from?
17:34Or, I mean, if you want to tell him.
17:36No.
17:38Um, okay.
17:39So my question for you though, is even though you're obviously a hustler, you slay the game,
17:47you do so much and you're so like inspirational.
17:51Do you want love?
17:52Like, are you, would you be, if it came, if there was a magic thing, you don't have to
17:56do the scrolling.
17:57You don't have to do that whole thing.
17:58If it were to happen, would you be open to it?
18:01Or are you kind of in a place that's like closed off to where your energy is closed off.
18:06So there won't be an opportunity.
18:07I think I'm always open, obviously for love.
18:10I'm a woman.
18:11I think that's something that comes natural.
18:13Yeah.
18:14Especially come on, like all these, all our shows, real short shows is the fantasy and
18:19the wanting to get rescued and the wanting to, you know, have that person that lets you
18:24go feral.
18:25Yeah.
18:26But I think also part of being, like you said, is that self-love of not wanting to share
18:31it with the not the right person.
18:34Oh my God.
18:35Cause it's terrible.
18:36Yeah.
18:36It really chips you down.
18:39When I broke up, I've had a few boyfriends and the one before this guy, I thought I was
18:45broken.
18:46Like I was like, oh, I'll never be able to trust someone again.
18:50Yeah.
18:50Like this is, this sucks for me now.
18:52Cause you're terrible.
18:54Yeah.
18:55But I think, I think you still can get past it.
19:01I think it's still, you don't live in that forever.
19:04Yeah, of course you don't live in that forever.
19:06And I think it's just about finding the person that uplifts you to become the better version
19:11of you.
19:12And I guess I'm still looking for that.
19:15Oh, where?
19:17Okay.
19:17So obviously apps are out for you.
19:19Apps.
19:19I feel like the traditional way is the way, but like where?
19:23I know.
19:24That's what I'm saying.
19:24Like where do we do?
19:25We just go out to like random coffee shops, but it doesn't in LA, like the culture here
19:30is people go out.
19:31So I guess I'll just be single forever.
19:33I mean, it's, it's like, you don't meet people anymore.
19:36You don't meet people.
19:37So I'm thinking like, you know, back in the day, people met at work.
19:40Right.
19:41Or it's like, oh, I have someone that might be nice for you.
19:44I even was rewatching sex in the city and I'm like, oh my gosh, I like, that's such
19:48a fun era.
19:50And in LA specifically, the culture is so strange.
19:54People go out in pods or alone and they don't talk to anyone else.
19:58Like New York is not like this.
19:59It's like, you can just talk to anybody and it's chill in LA.
20:02Everyone's like, it's more like, it's definitely more open out there.
20:08Um, but I mean, you found your, your person literally randomly dating up and most of the
20:14times people meet randomly.
20:15So I feel like it's just not the time yet.
20:19Yeah.
20:20When there is the time, you know, there's no, no rush.
20:22I feel like when the time comes, then it'll happen for now.
20:26I'm looking for Mr.
20:27Shmedium ugly if you're there.
20:30Yeah.
20:30Come through.
20:31Um, but you know, you, you seem so calm and what you have.
20:35And I think that that's what I want to, I want to feel calm and I don't want to feel
20:39a need to show.
20:41I feel like you, like, you know, you feel so comfortable in what you guys have that there's
20:46no need to explain.
20:48And that's what I'm looking for.
20:49Yeah.
20:50And it's out there.
20:51It's like, I feel like when you're, it's so cliche, but when you are least expecting
20:58it, it works out.
20:59Like I, when I first went on a date with him, I was like, uh, like whatever.
21:04And then I'm like, actually, I love him.
21:06Yeah.
21:06Cause of how he treats you.
21:07Yeah, exactly.
21:08So they can make up for it.
21:10Um, what about DMs?
21:12What are your thoughts on like people sliding in through the DMs?
21:14Don't even read them.
21:16Oh, I get it.
21:18Don't even try.
21:19How many unread messages do you have?
21:22I just feel like it's cheap.
21:23I mean, like there's other ways to get someone's attention.
21:27Um, I think sometimes a DM could be sweet, but I feel like a DM should come after more
21:32interact.
21:32Like on, like you're interacting with my socials and then, oh, you know, we start casually
21:37talking.
21:38But if you're just like DMing, like, what are you going to say?
21:42It already has a little bit of a negative connotation around it too, where you're just like
21:45sliding into the DMs.
21:47Like you just want this ass.
21:48Oh, what are you going to say?
21:49Like, what are you going to say when you slide in the DM?
21:51What is like a good DM?
21:54Think about it.
21:56Here's $500.
21:57I guess.
22:00You know, how about those people who, um, here's $500.
22:04That's the perfect DM.
22:05Do you know, oh my gosh, this is so off topic, but I was scrolling and, um, there are these
22:12girls that have these things called pay pigs, where they literally just will, they have
22:20these guys that they're like, Hey, you idiot.
22:23I want $1,000.
22:24And these men like that and they get off to it.
22:27So then they Venmo you.
22:28Yeah.
22:29So they're called pay pigs.
22:30There's, I'm like, Oh, I, I have, I have people that I know that are get paid for the
22:36girlfriend experience.
22:36So they'll call their, stop it.
22:38They'll call someone and they'll just say, how much do they get?
22:41Uh, I'll get you the DM.
22:42Just care.
22:42I mean, that's so interesting.
22:45I mean, nowadays the way, the way that we're dating and the way that we're setting up intimate
22:50relationships is so different.
22:52I think it's up to everyone to kind of create what that means for them.
22:55Honestly, agreed.
22:56Whatever makes you happy and fixes it.
22:59Like you see people like marrying their lampshade and they're like, I love it.
23:04And you're like, you do, you boo.
23:06I mean, you can't define love nowadays.
23:08So, I mean, you just have to put yourself out there.
23:11I know dating apps are definitely not for me.
23:13I'm definitely a traditional, more conservative type of woman.
23:17DMs.
23:18I feel like there's not really like a special DM that you can like impress me with.
23:22I agree.
23:23I'll welcome them.
23:24I'll welcome them.
23:25If you read it.
23:26Especially if they have $500 in the DM.
23:29Yeah.
23:29That one I'll probably read like right away.
23:32Okay, but so just quick, you won't do dating apps fair.
23:38You want to meet someone the traditional way, but what would that be for you?
23:41Like at the bar, at a dinner, on the street, on a plane, airport.
23:46See, girl, I think I live in a fantasy world.
23:49I think that I'm just going to step out of my house and there's going to be-
23:53Delivery man.
23:54Charming.
23:55And he's going to be great.
23:56And then we're going to go to this little small town getaway and we're going to fall in love.
24:00And I'm going to bake bread with his mom and, you know, like, yeah.
24:04And she's a baker.
24:05And she's a baker.
24:07Yeah.
24:08And like, you know, he's like his, you know, he takes me to his bachelor apartment.
24:13And you get dual citizenship somewhere.
24:15And I just, for some reason now, I'm like the queen of Geneva.
24:18Yeah.
24:19I live in this world of fantasy that doesn't exist in 2025.
24:24It only exists on a hinge or a bumble, I guess.
24:28But I guess, you know, just walking outside and meeting someone the natural, organic way.
24:34Yeah.
24:35All right.
24:36So everyone stalk her.
24:37I'm just kidding.
24:38I'm just kidding.
24:39I'm kidding.
24:40Okay.
24:40Last question.
24:42Do you believe in love at first sight?
24:44Of course.
24:45I don't.
24:46I don't.
24:47How don't you believe in love at first sight?
24:49Because I feel like, for me, love is what you're building something.
24:57And it's how, for a long period of time, the human is making that work for you.
25:03But haven't you felt something initially with someone that you've never felt with anyone else?
25:07Yeah, and it never works.
25:09They're assholes.
25:10They're terrible.
25:11The guys that I'm like, damn, it's like they're the worst.
25:16But the guys that I'm like, whatever, they're the ones that in my experience have been.
25:21So would you say that you love someone from the moment that you meet them or that you learn to love someone?
25:27I don't know if it's learn to love someone because then it feels like I have to, it's not natural.
25:33It's more like, at least for me, it's experiences with the human and how they, like, really can build you up and how you work together.
25:44But I've never, I don't think I believe in love at first sight.
25:47You've never met someone that you're just like, I know love at first sight is real because there are people that from the moment that I've stood next to them, I felt something that I never felt with anyone else.
25:57And that I cannot explain.
25:59Uh, maybe friendships.
26:01I get that from mostly women, actually.
26:04Sorry to the guys, but.
26:05So maybe love at first sight with women?
26:07With women and friendships, yeah.
26:09I'm like, or you've, you've, actually, I've had it with guys too, but not in a romantic sense.
26:14Yeah, maybe you think about it.
26:15No, you are for sure.
26:16But I feel like it's a little bit more of like a friend, like where our energies mix.
26:21Because some people I, you, you'll meet and I'll be like, oh no, I know they're going to hate me.
26:26But wouldn't you say that then we can be love at first sight and then we build towards not loving?
26:33Yeah.
26:35Yeah.
26:35Like for sure you can be like, oh, I like them.
26:37And then you're like, oh my God, the way that they function is not okay.
26:41Yeah.
26:42But I think I'm, the question, do you believe in love at first sight?
26:45I'm viewing it a little bit more in the classic way of like, oh, if a couple meets and they fall in love, like in a movie.
26:53I don't really believe that.
26:56Well, is the love like the feeling or love like the way that the dynamic will work?
27:02Because I feel like there's, there's two different things, right?
27:05Yeah.
27:05I think it's like, what is love to you, right?
27:08So I guess it's like, let's define that, I guess.
27:10Because we're like talking about what love at first sight is and we feel differently about love.
27:15We do.
27:15We definitely do.
27:16What's love for you?
27:16Okay.
27:17What's love for you?
27:18Love for me.
27:23I love how you, oh my God.
27:25I'm going to be the host right now.
27:27I'll let you think about it while I think, I mean, I'll let you answer while I think about it.
27:31That's a deep one.
27:33What is love?
27:35I feel like love for me is, well, there's a couple different like things of love.
27:42Like there's like friendship loves, family loves, and then your relationship, but an overall encompassing feeling is being able to just be yourself and not judged and giving yourself to someone without needing anything in return.
28:00Like I, right, I think?
28:04Yeah, no, it's selfless.
28:06Yeah, like there's something to be said when you're not expecting anything in return and just not feeling alone and making life better.
28:19Yeah, no, absolutely.
28:22I think love will be different for everyone, but I think that's something that me, you can agree on is that it's to be seen, it's to be understood.
28:32Yeah.
28:33You know, because I also think that, I also think like love is to be seen and understood, and I think that a lot of people have the capacity to love you.
28:42Mm-hmm.
28:43That's beautiful.
28:45The little poet.
28:46The poetry.
28:47The slam poetry hitting hard today.
28:49Okay, well, let me give you your chair back.
28:52Yes, I have so many more questions to ask you.
28:55I mean, I can see why being on this side is a little uncomfortable.
28:59I like asking the questions more.
29:01You still kind of did.
29:10Well, I'm happy to be back in this chair.
29:13So, you know that DMs for me are somewhat of like, I'd say like low effort.
29:19Is there anything for you that is like non-negotiable or just a deal breaker?
29:23Yeah.
29:24Like what?
29:25A thousand percent.
29:26I cannot stand it when men aren't really listening to me.
29:35And not in the sense of like, do what you're told.
29:38Like if I'm sharing something and then you ask me a question about what I just said, good night.
29:44Like, hi, I'm talking.
29:46And you're going to listen or we're not going to date.
29:49So, also with, I feel like as a straight female dating man, it's not that you have to train men, but you kind of do a little bit to your diameter.
30:04I like to say you teach people how to treat you.
30:07Yes, I agree with that.
30:08That's a beautiful thing.
30:09So, there's been so many instances of things that my boyfriend has done that annoyed me that I have just been like, oh, hey, so like, yeah, that doesn't work for me.
30:22But, yeah, we can like learn from that.
30:24If they keep doing it, then that's a problem.
30:26But, if somebody makes a mistake in the relationship, as long as it's not anything crazy, if they can just like fix it, I think that that works.
30:36But, yeah, biggest issue is that really annoys me.
30:39So, you don't like to not be listened to or like not be present during your time.
30:44Would you say that then you need a lot of time, spend a lot of time together?
30:47No.
30:48It's just if we're together and if we're having dinner or something, I'm not okay if he's like scrolling or something.
30:55Yeah, you want presents.
30:56Like, would you say like, what was your love language?
30:58Would you say it's quality time then?
31:01My personal love language?
31:03Yeah, what's your love language?
31:04What are they again?
31:05I think it's quality time, gifting, acts of service, physical touch, and words of affirmation.
31:15Quality time and words of affirmation.
31:19Yeah.
31:19I don't really care about the gift stuff.
31:21Physical, I don't really care that much.
31:26Like, it's not, I'm not like freaking out about it.
31:28What's the other one?
31:29Words of affirmation, quality time and acts of service.
31:32That's nice.
31:33Yeah, that's nice.
31:34Yeah.
31:35That's what I think that is.
31:36Nice.
31:38I'm also that way.
31:39So, that's why I ask because, you know, when someone's not present for me, I don't feel like we're spending time.
31:46Well, it's because it's like, what's the point?
31:47Like, I don't have time.
31:48Okay, if you're like busy and not.
31:50If you're doing something else, then I can go do something else too.
31:53So, I completely understand that.
31:55And I guess like, what are the qualities that you look in a partner?
31:57I know that you kind of like dabbled a little bit and you kind of like explored your world.
32:03So, I'm pretty sure you have some good insights on what to look for.
32:06When I was trying out dating, I didn't really know what I was looking for specifically, but what I knew was how I wanted to be treated and how I wanted to feel.
32:18We all know that feeling of talking to someone when you're so unsure and you're like, should I text them back?
32:23Yeah.
32:24Do they like me?
32:25Am I being annoying?
32:26Like, what should I wear?
32:27Like, should I lie about where I am?
32:28Like, should I make myself look cooler?
32:29And that was something that I was always trying to like prove myself and make myself look cooler in all facets.
32:37So, now it would be just being able to just like be your full self and be accepted and it's enough.
32:45I definitely need someone who is, I think this would go for everybody too, just understanding of your emotional balance.
32:55Like, if I'm having a bad day, it's not personal.
32:57Something that I struggled with before my current boyfriend was, I'm on set every day.
33:03I have one day off.
33:04I might not want to go out.
33:05I might want to sit in my bed and it's not personal.
33:08I just, I need you to understand that.
33:13So, what would you say is like one of the most romantic things someone has ever done to you?
33:18I wish you would have asked me this question because I'm such a lover girl.
33:21But what was the most romantic thing?
33:23That I've ever, anyone's ever done for me?
33:27Yes.
33:28Or that you've ever experienced.
33:30Okay, so this question can be kind of difficult because of the genre that we all work in, which is these beautiful soap operas where the guys always do crazy things for women.
33:40And that's not always reality, okay?
33:43Men don't have billions of dollars unless they do.
33:45And then they just drop the credit card and give your mom $50,000 for her medical bill.
33:50Right.
33:51Maybe real short is the reason why I'm still looking for this.
33:54Honestly, I was actually going to ask you that.
33:56Is it real short?
33:59Yeah.
33:59I'd say the most romantic thing for me that really stuck out was after a really hard shoot, that was probably the hardest one I've ever done, my partner called me and I had a really bad ear infection.
34:17Ear infection?
34:17Yeah, it was really weird.
34:19Actually, it wasn't an ear infection.
34:20I had a clogged ear with earwax, so I couldn't hear out of one ear.
34:24So he was like, okay, I'm taking you to the doctor to get your ear drained, and then we're going to Joshua Tree.
34:30And I booked it.
34:31You don't have to do anything.
34:33Just pack a bathing suit and your almond milk or whatever you want.
34:37We're going to go.
34:37So someone taking the initiative for me and just making the plan to do a thing to help my ear hole and then to go on a trip to get away, because I would never do that.
34:48I'm the type that won't go on a trip unless it's work-related.
34:51So that was really special to me.
34:55Yeah.
34:56No, that sounds so sweet.
34:57And it's like that person took care of you and made sure that you relax.
35:03I think that's such a caring way.
35:04And it's so romantic, too, because it's like, I'm going to come take care of you.
35:08It was.
35:09It was hot because it was like, don't move.
35:13I'm on my way.
35:14This is what we're doing.
35:15It just felt good to be taken care of.
35:18And it's not even about money and stuff.
35:21It's not like, oh, how many things you can buy me.
35:23But that just felt really special.
35:26Yeah.
35:28I had so much fun talking to you about dating.
35:31I mean, I definitely needed that girl.
35:33It was like a girl-to-girl talk.
35:36And I want to end this segment with just us talking a little bit about what's the most
35:41important thing that you've learned in your dating career.
35:44I know the things that you've learned in your childhood and you brought to your villain
35:49stories.
35:51What have you learned?
35:52Like, what's the most impactful thing you've learned and that you want to share with the
35:55real short fans?
35:56The most impactful thing I've learned while dating is you don't have to please them.
36:08I feel like women, I'm kind of talking to the girlies right now.
36:11I feel like we put so much effort.
36:13Like, are they going to like me?
36:14And it's like, you need to like them too.
36:17And it's hard to get to that place of just not giving a shit, kind of, and being like,
36:23yeah, if you don't like me, it's fine.
36:24You know, we want to be liked.
36:26We want to be likable.
36:27We're human, right?
36:28Um, but just trusting that someone will love you for everything, even though you're so
36:36hard on yourself, you don't, they're not going to be that way.
36:40If anything, they will make your life easier and let you feel like you don't have to be
36:45a size zero.
36:45Like you can be whatever size and it's fine.
36:48Just little things like that.
36:50So, um, I'd say the biggest lesson I've learned is finding someone that just allows you to have
36:56more self-acceptance and not having to just, just knowing that you actually have more power.
37:04Yeah.
37:04These guys like don't matter.
37:06Yeah, no, I think, um, that's really important to date for yourself and for your satisfaction
37:12and your own pleasure as well.
37:15And just to piggyback off, piggyback off of what I said earlier, if you're single and dating
37:20and struggling with it, try a little character on not saying go full crazy and like be someone
37:26else, but just amplify something that you really have had a lot of trouble with.
37:31Like for me, I really wanted a guy to buy me dinner without me feeling guilty about it.
37:35So I just pretended that that was my standard.
37:37I was one of those girls that was like, yeah, you're buying it.
37:39Yeah.
37:40And then it worked.
37:41So just try something new.
37:43And I swear.
37:44Yeah.
37:45I mean, you just have to put yourself there and know what you want so that you can be able
37:50to receive it.
37:51I mean, talking about dinner, I think I'm a little hungry right now and I know you love
37:57making a good smoothie.
37:59Yes.
38:00I definitely wanted to invite you to the podcast and make a smoothie with me.
38:04I think after all this dating talk, we're a little, we need a little refreshment.
38:08Oh, I think so too.
38:11So I heard you were hungry.
38:13Let's replenish that taste.
38:15What's the most villainous thing someone has ever done on a date with you?
38:23The worst thing in the world.
38:25I was on a date, a date with somebody and we were at the mall.
38:29We were in Zara and he asked me to pay for his clothing.
38:33And no.
38:35Hi, thank you.
38:35I'd like to return this.
38:37Good night.
38:37Do you think villains make better lovers than heroes?
38:41I think villains make the best lovers.
38:44If your character were on a dating app, what would their bio say?
38:50Prickly on the outside, saucy on the inside, I think.
38:55What's your biggest dating deal breaker?
38:58Somebody who doesn't let me speak my mind and makes me feel small.
39:05Most romantic thing anyone has ever done for you?
39:07Probably took me on a surprise vacation when I was struggling and needed it really badly.
39:14And I didn't know that I needed it.
39:16So they knew that I needed it type of thing.
39:19If you were to go on a date with a fictional villain, who would it be and why?
39:23Daxter!
39:24Come on, cut me open more!
39:25Cut me!
39:26What's the worst pick-up line you've ever heard?
39:29I don't get guys that give me pick-up lines.
39:32Like, I guess it would just be some, like, nasty, disturbing human on the street who's, like,
39:39maybe a drug addict, like, screaming at me.
39:41If your date ghosted you, would you plan revenge?
39:44Be honest.
39:48What do you think?
39:49Have you ever been on a date that felt like a dramatic movie scene?
39:54Yes!
39:55I went on a date with a guy that I didn't realize was, oh god, this is going crazy,
40:02was coming off of, um, ketamine?
40:05And he went into cardiac arrest in the restaurant.
40:12What's the weirdest or funniest reason you've turned someone down?
40:15The funniest reason I've turned someone down was because I had explosive diarrhea.
40:22Tried to get another date happening, and then he just goes to me after, so.
40:26Probably for the best.
40:27My ass knew before I did.
40:29Do you prefer romantic comedies or steamy thrillers when it comes to love stories?
40:34I prefer rom-com.
40:36Yeah.
40:37What's the most surprising thing you've learned about yourself for dating?
40:40The most surprising thing I've learned about myself while dating is that my opinion actually
40:45matters.
40:46Do you think your on-screen villain persona has influenced how people approach you in real
40:50life?
40:51One thousand percent.
40:52We don't need to do all the Chia.
40:53We need that.
40:54Magnesium.
40:55I think people think that I am a raging B-I-T-C-H in real life and are scared of me and
41:02think that I'm going to be super mean.
41:05But I'm not.
41:06Have you ever had a date that fell straight out of a movie, romantic or disastrous?
41:12I had, okay, my first date, actually, I had with my boyfriend.
41:16He's a director.
41:17We had a date planned.
41:18He had to cancel it because his location got messed up, and so he had to go location scouting.
41:25So he was like, do you want to come with me, location scouting?
41:27And I was like, sure, I guess.
41:30So I went with his entire production team, and it was the most awkward thing.
41:34Thank God I can talk forever.
41:35So I was just kind of pretending to be part of the set, and then we left, and it was fine.
41:41What's one thing you wish people knew about you when it comes to relationships?
41:45I wish...
41:47I wish people knew that I am a sensitive little baby bunny that's abandoned in the forest.
42:04Because I'm really soft, and I just want to be loved, and that's really the real me.
42:11I'm not like, oh, I'm going to take you down.
42:14Like, I actually am like, I just want to help and be collaborative.
42:18Oh, come on.
42:20You know?
42:21Has playing a villain made you more or less skeptical about love?
42:28Playing a villain has made me less skeptical about love, I would say, because the good girl always gets the guy.
42:36If you're a good person, and you're not, like, a raging bitch like the villains, you'll find love.
42:44That's crunchy.
42:50Yum.
42:52Delicious.
42:54Sarah, this is so good.
42:56It's so delicious.
42:57I'm so particular about my smoothies, too, but it was really fun watching you make it.
43:03This is not my best work, but it's definitely pretty good.
43:06Well, I had so much fun today with you.
43:08I mean, come on.
43:09We made smoothies.
43:10We talked about dating.
43:12It was really nice learning about you and learning about how comfortable you are with your emotions and how you bring that to the set.
43:17But even though I know we always see you in villain roles, I'm really excited to see what you're going to do next.
43:25And what roles you'll have.
43:26Is there anything that you want to say to the fans before I let you go?
43:29Yeah, of course.
43:30Everyone who's been watching and just, you know, following me in my career for some time now, I just want to say how I see all of it.
43:37It doesn't go unnoticed, and it makes me feel so filled with love, and I can't wait to keep working and showing you guys what kind of roles I can do and just the range I have.
43:48And I just want to keep making content for you guys.
43:50And I've just had so much fun with you here today.
43:53And, yeah, I'm here to always talk about the real stuff, the nitty-gritty, the unsexy things about being a person and just trying to live.
44:03Yeah.
44:03So I thank you for letting me be honest in a safe place.
44:07Yeah, no, I mean, I feel so safe and honest with you.
44:10I mean, the type of questions you asked me.
44:13But I can't wait to have you more around.
44:15I think it will be fun.
44:16Love you.
44:17Love you.
44:17Cheers.
44:17Cheers.
44:37Cheers.
44:37Cheers.
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