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00:00Hey everyone, I'm Sarah Malisky and welcome to Real Talk, where we get hot, spicy, and to the drama.
00:09Okay, Richard, you and Jessica are actually the picture-perfect couple.
00:15Like, I need a photo of you guys on my wall to try to get what you guys got going on.
00:21That's like a vision board.
00:22Yeah, exactly. You two and your family on my vision board.
00:25I don't know, like, it was kind of funny, actually.
00:27Whenever people ask me at my job, like, when I'm interacting with all these different clients,
00:30and they're just saying, like, show me, like, what are your pictures of your family?
00:33I have it on my lock screen, actually, and I usually show them.
00:36And usually everyone makes fun of me.
00:37They're like, why are you showing me a Pottery Barn ad?
00:39It's like, I'm like, well, that's actually my wife and kids, but yeah.
00:42And they're just like, wait, what? That's real?
00:45That's a real thing?
00:46They're like, all right, stop showing me a Pottery Barn ad.
00:48Like, actually show me your actual family.
00:49Right.
00:50I know, I get it a lot. It's kind of funny. I'm used to it.
00:52But yes, I'm very, they make me look good, let's just say that.
00:55Oh my gosh, so good.
00:57Incredible.
00:58But speaking of, you know, picture-perfect families and everything like that,
01:02you've been in so many amazing Real Short Vertical Soap Opera series,
01:06especially some here that I have, which are the Billionaire's Baby Bargain, number one.
01:12That was your first one, right?
01:13That was my first one ever, actually.
01:14It's what brought me into the world of Real Short.
01:16And yeah, I couldn't get enough of it.
01:18I had such an amazing time that I was like, all right, let's keep going.
01:22And yeah.
01:23So with your first, I love asking this question to,
01:27soap opera actors, especially in the vertical space.
01:29Soap opera, yeah.
01:30What was it like walking on to a vertical set?
01:34Was that the first time you've ever done anything the other way?
01:36Yeah, like it was so funny because all I ever did, I mean, it's so funny referring to it now
01:41because at the time of my first, I never really referred to these things as horizontal and vertical
01:45space, you know?
01:46Right.
01:46Like I literally just got done shooting.
01:48The previous gig that I did was at the Manhattan Beach Studios where they film Avatar and The
01:53Mandalorian.
01:53So I actually filmed in the volume.
01:55So they open up this giant 10-story like LED door and you walk into this place and then
02:00they shut it behind you.
02:01Oh.
02:01And it's lit.
02:02It's LEDs everywhere.
02:04And so that's, all the crew had like Mando hats and like Avatar hats.
02:07It was so cool.
02:08But then I walk onto this set and it's, they literally rigged the red camera to actually
02:13go vertical.
02:14And so I was like, oh, this is cool.
02:16This is different.
02:16I love interacting with people on the fringes of the industry and they're like, you know,
02:20innovating.
02:21And so it's great because I landed there.
02:23And of course, I mean, you've worked with Nani.
02:25Oh my God.
02:26I love, it was Nani's first, she's the director for it, by the way.
02:29And it was her first time ever working on a set with the vertical space as well.
02:33And so we kind of like latched onto each other and the entire experience was so amazing
02:36that we just couldn't look back and we'd keep going.
02:40And so when you, when you did your first vertical, were you like, oh, this is new.
02:47This is cool.
02:47Like, what did you think about it?
02:50I didn't know what to expect because I remember when we walked on set and like I said, they
02:54had rigged these cameras to go up vertical now.
02:56And then spacing is completely different because you're used to, you know, blocking
03:00and choreography now is like, you know, you're extremely tight and extremely close.
03:04And then they're aggressive on these sets.
03:07They do 10 to 12 pages.
03:10When you get spoiled on the normal set, the horizontal space, you're like aggressive is
03:14three to four pages.
03:15And then now we're doing like 12, 14, 15 pages a day.
03:19And I love it, to be honest, because I, I, I did a lot of short films that I produced,
03:24created, wrote, directed, produced like the credits are a joke.
03:27It's just like me like over and over.
03:28Yeah.
03:29Like whenever, like you're trying to, with your artistic vision, going about it like that,
03:33I saw how the cost can get crazy.
03:35It's like, it's trying to be in control of everything from a producer perspective and
03:38trying to see like, you know, locations, budgets, like, you know, all that stuff.
03:42It can get kind of nuts.
03:43And then all of a sudden you see these guys almost scaling that business model of aggressively
03:49guerrilla style, going through these things and getting through a ton of pages, but then
03:51doing it well.
03:52That's what I saw.
03:53It was extremely efficient, extremely professional.
03:56And that's why I love being a part of it because I got to see it from the inside out.
03:59So from doing your first show to your most recent show, have you seen a change in the
04:05workflow, even with specifically talking about you, have you gotten more confident in the
04:10space or has it helped you in different areas than before as an actor?
04:15I love the range that they were asking me to do.
04:16So I did a couple of these ones and the CEO billionaire is like that.
04:21Yeah, I would think so.
04:22I've always got married in Vegas, the other personal billionaire baby bargain.
04:26And it was new to me.
04:27And of course I was like, oh, this is cool.
04:28I get to be the CEO.
04:29And then all of a sudden they asked me this latest one.
04:33It's, it's a new, it's a new angle that they're playing now.
04:35It's like, it's with kids.
04:36It's very, very dark.
04:37Oh, and there's like some, it's like an artist, you express yourself, like, you know, opening
04:42up your instrument and being able to play the charming lead or whatever.
04:46And then there's some very dark like scenes that we do that, you know, pull on the heart
04:49strings and like shed some tears and stuff.
04:51And so like being able to utilize that aspect of like, you know, acting, I loved it as far
04:56as like, you know, taking into a new leaf, they reached out to me and they're like, we're
04:59taking like, you know, a new angle with this one.
05:01We think you're perfect for it.
05:02We think you've got the range to do it.
05:03And I was like, let's go.
05:04It was fun.
05:05It was amazing.
05:06Was that your most recent?
05:07That's my most recent.
05:08It's actually coming out soon.
05:09Oh, what's the name of it?
05:11It's a working title.
05:12You know, they always change it every single time.
05:14They do.
05:14They do.
05:14You might have to change that.
05:15No, they really do always change it though.
05:18Change like three times before it comes out.
05:19It'll be like eight things.
05:20You're like, did I act with that one?
05:21I know.
05:21What is that one?
05:23Yeah.
05:24Oh, cool.
05:24I can't wait to see that.
05:26So there are, there's children in that one.
05:28There's children.
05:29Yeah.
05:29Was that the first time you acted with children?
05:33Yeah.
05:33And these little, these are the Russian girls.
05:36It's like April and Anna.
05:37So it was hilarious because they showed up on set and these girls are professionals.
05:41Oh.
05:42This isn't their first gig.
05:43Like they do hundreds of these shows.
05:45Okay.
05:45And so they walk on set and I was just like, geez, like they should be number one in the
05:48culture.
05:48Right.
05:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:50And she's four years old.
05:52But they, yeah, they're rock stars.
05:53They got on there and did the scenes.
05:54There's like heavy crying.
05:56There's like full drama.
05:57And these girls got in there and killed it.
05:59And I'm off set.
06:00I'm like right off screen going, they're amazing.
06:02And so you're going to see it whenever these shows come out, like these girls are killing
06:07it.
06:07And I loved it.
06:08I love being a part of that whole thing.
06:09Well, I remember I was casting a show and I wanted you as the lead.
06:14And then I was, the character had a wife and two kids.
06:19And I was like, looking at you, I didn't know you yet.
06:22And I was stalking you.
06:23And I was like, oh my God, is that his family?
06:24Again, going back to the Pottery Barn ad.
06:26I was like, I was like, that's not, that's, that's his family.
06:30Called the producer.
06:31I was like, can we get them in here?
06:33And they were like, yeah, if you can make it work.
06:35And I call you.
06:35I'm like, Richard, hi, I'm Sarah.
06:37So nice to meet you.
06:38Can I get you and your family?
06:39Almost got that to work.
06:40I know.
06:41We tried.
06:42We really tried.
06:42We tried so hard.
06:43I know.
06:43We tried so hard.
06:44Are you, in the future, thinking of maybe getting the whole fam involved in a shoot?
06:51Or what does that look like for you?
06:52No, like, you know, you've been referencing the episode prior.
06:54Like, getting them accustomed to being in front of the camera and liking it.
06:58And I never want to push it on them.
06:59I know, like, there's the, like, the stereotypes of, like, the theater bomb.
07:02Yeah.
07:03Get out there.
07:04Be amazing.
07:05Be amazing.
07:06You know, like, trying to relive some, maybe you didn't get to live that in your life.
07:09So you're trying to live it through your kids.
07:10I'm very hands-off at that stuff.
07:11I'm just like, if they want to be a part of it, go for it.
07:15I'm here to help, but I'm not going to try and push that.
07:17But, yeah, I, they love watching these TikTok videos that I make.
07:22They're, like, these little BTS videos that I always take on set.
07:25And they're so much fun.
07:26Like, everybody in the comment boards, they keep saying, they're like, oh, my God.
07:29Like, it just looks like being on set with you is just a blast.
07:31It's like, it really is.
07:33Like, we're, we're dancing.
07:34We're being stupid.
07:35We're taking videos the whole time.
07:36And I always mash them together.
07:37And I release them around the time for part of the marketing when these, like, shows drop.
07:42And my kids watch them on repeat.
07:43They're just, like, they literally, like, dad, dad, you're an actor?
07:46And I'm like, yeah, that's what you do.
07:47And they think, they think being an actor is just screwing around these BTS videos, like, having fun.
07:52And they're like, I want to do that.
07:53And I was like, yeah, there's a little bit more to that.
07:54But it is fun.
07:55It's great.
07:55And so, if they think it's fun, and, like, I always tell them, it's like, chase the fun.
07:59If it's something that, you know, does bring you happiness, then go for it.
08:02Well, talking about that with you being on set, making TikToks, being smart with marketing, putting it, dropping it right when the show drops.
08:10Smart, smart, smart.
08:11So, it seems like you do a lot of stuff.
08:15You got a lot going on.
08:16So, just tell me a little bit about that.
08:18What's it like being an actor, being a father, also having 18 different jobs and hobbies and things that you do that make money?
08:25And are really just up and coming and cool stuff.
08:28How do you handle being that person?
08:31What's interesting, actually, is that in B school, whenever I was getting my MBA, there was one of the homework assignments was, there's a famous thought leader, you know, his name is Simon Sinek.
08:43He always asks the question, like, you need to find your why.
08:46And when you find your why for anything in life, like, whether, for me, at least personally, when I really took, I took the assignment seriously.
08:53I was like, what is my why?
08:55And my why was, it was really to try and create this little piece of heaven on earth for my family.
09:03And when you try to do something like that, when you try to bring something from a celestial realm of a deity down to earth, oh, my God, it takes a lot of effort.
09:12And so, it takes you literally to create and curate and make this little piece of heaven on earth for your family.
09:18You cherish it, you love it, but then you have to leave it.
09:22You have to leave it in order to what?
09:24Work.
09:24You have to go toil.
09:25You have to go, like, if you want to take the farmer analogy and stuff, you have to boil the ground.
09:30You've got to plant the seeds.
09:31You've got to water it.
09:32It takes a lot of time and attention.
09:33And, you know, there's a lot of things you have to wait for the harvest.
09:35And then you can bring it, and then you finally come back to your little piece of heaven that you want to try and curate, and then you give it back to them.
09:41And it takes a lot, a lot of time, a lot of intention, and a lot of effort.
09:45And so, that was, for me, finding that endless well of energy and that endless well of the constant rigor to keep doing that comes from my why, which is that little, my family that I'm trying to keep and that little piece of heaven that I'm trying to curate and basically water that garden, you know?
10:00Oh, my God.
10:06Question for you on that.
10:09You seem, on the outside, just from seeing you, to have it figured out that you have this thought process and this, like, plan you've made.
10:20And it's so thought out.
10:21It's so calculated and made to perfection.
10:26What do you do on those days if you're, like, actually exhausted, or you're, like, having a bad day, you're in a bad mood, you're annoyed, you don't feel like doing this, or you're just overwhelmed, or someone at work's pissing you off, or you're having trouble with your family?
10:37Like, how do you do all of these different things that you do and still keep it this guy right here?
10:45Thank you, first off, for that compliment.
10:47No, but truly.
10:48I keep it, you know, well-composed, thank you, because inside, it's just a mess.
10:52I think I'm actually undiagnosed ADD, so, like, I'm actually really good at juggling stuff because I'm constantly, like, you know, that's where my mind goes.
10:59And I actually would argue that it's kind of like a superpower.
11:02I always give the advice to, like, friends of mine who feel like they're, like, they kind of pinpoint, they're like, I think you are ADHD, and I like that, it's like a mutant power.
11:11You know, like, in the X-Men series, whenever, I'm kind of a nerd, okay, so there's very specific analogies that I always pull from, but, like, Professor Xavier in the X-Men series, wherever, he was taking that serum to basically dumb down his mutant power because he wanted to be normal and stuff, and I was like, and then, of course, the argument that Magneto made was, like, why don't you actually embrace that?
11:35And, like, you know, what makes you different is actually a superpower.
11:38Right.
11:38And I always, like, take that mindset whenever...
11:41With my own, like, you know, ADHD kind of mindset where I feel like I am kind of scatterbrained a little bit, and I do, like, juggle a lot of stuff, but how is that a bad thing?
11:50I would actually argue that, you know, maintaining all those different things and having those different things that I focus on be business pursuits, and, like, whether it's your family, relationships, or business and stuff, like, it's almost a superpower that you kind of want to amplify.
12:03So I like it.
12:04I actually turn it negative.
12:05What most people would perceive as a negative to a positive.
12:07Do you, if you're having a day that, it seems like you've got it down with being able to put energy in so many different areas and pockets, but if you're ever, do you have any tips and tricks for some viewers, and myself, if you're just, like, you're having, like, a bad day, but you have to provide for your family and you provide for your career and yourself, how do you kind of just, like, get that little spark back up?
12:32I mean, it's fine.
12:32It really is defining your why.
12:34It's that, why are you doing this in the first place?
12:36So do you go back to that when you have those moments?
12:39Exactly.
12:39When you have those moments, because it's going to happen.
12:41Right.
12:41As much as you wish that you can plan stuff out, forecasting or whatever you want, in the business mindset, if you want to use that, you know, vernacular, nothing goes as planned.
12:50It never does.
12:50I mean, even the pursuit today, like, we were trying to get here on time, the call sheets, stuff like that.
12:54Like, we're stuck in traffic.
12:55Yeah.
12:55We're texting each other.
12:56We're not driving and texting.
12:58I'm talking to Siri.
13:00Yeah, we're talking to Siri.
13:00I was like, yo, Richard, I'm late as shit.
13:04But there's stuff, Murphy's Law always kicks in and stuff that, you know, the worst possible things that can happen will always happen.
13:09And I actually look at that as not like a bad thing.
13:12It's just like, you know, how do you evolve and adapt?
13:14And if you want to lean on the artistic mindset of, like, improv.
13:17Improv, it's never, you never say no in improv.
13:19Absolutely not.
13:20That's how you kill it.
13:20You always do the yes and.
13:22And so I always look at something when, like, you know, there's curveballs thrown at you in life.
13:26It's like, okay, you don't say no or freak out or, like, you know, lose your cool.
13:30You always go like, okay, yes, this is happening.
13:32And now what?
13:34What's your next player?
13:35What's your next move?
13:36So I always look at those things not as, like, you know, an insurmountable obstacle.
13:39But now you just got to maneuver and pivot.
13:41Problem solve it.
13:42Yeah, problem solve it.
13:43Yeah.
13:43And if you want to really get into, like, the real arc of, like, you know, playing leads not only in shows and in movies, but then playing the lead character of your own life.
13:52Like, jump back and, like, pull yourself out of it and look at it from, like, a 30,000-foot, like, you know, perspective.
14:00It's like, how amazing would a movie be if the character would just complain the whole time, just sit in bed and, like, you know, cry and then roll over?
14:06Like, how much of that movie would you sit there and watch before you're just like, okay, I got to turn into something else?
14:11The reason why the most motivating movies that I see and, like, where the characters are men of action, women of action, and they always make decisions at these key critical points in, like, you know, the storyline where all of a sudden everything's on the line.
14:24They feel like there's multiple guns, you know, their backs are against the wall.
14:27Right.
14:27And then they triumph because they're people of action.
14:30And I always take that mindset for leading the story of your life.
14:35Like, that's how you take it.
14:36So, it's almost like if they were going to tell your story or make a movie about you, those moments where the cliffhangers happen, what did you do?
14:45Right.
14:45Not sit there and just complain and be, like, annoyed of the situation.
14:49That's a good point.
14:51I'm going to use that.
14:52What's your sign?
14:54Lead of your own movie.
14:55I knew it!
14:58I should have said it!
15:00I should have been like, are you a Virgo?
15:04Do you have a Leo in there, too?
15:06I don't know.
15:06I don't know that stuff.
15:07You know?
15:08Okay.
15:08I know.
15:09But a lot of people, when they break it down, it's kind of scary, actually.
15:11It's not that I don't believe in it.
15:13Like, when the people actually know what they're talking about.
15:14But the Virgos don't believe in it.
15:16That's so Virgo to say.
15:18Yeah, that was so Virgo to say.
15:20But, yeah, when people break it down, because some people on set, they're like, they live and die by it.
15:24Yeah.
15:24And they're explaining it to me.
15:25I'm just like, it's crazy.
15:26Sarah.
15:26Yeah.
15:27Sarah Noel.
15:28Creepily, it was on the money.
15:29Yeah.
15:29On the money.
15:30And I was just like, okay, that's crazy.
15:32Virgo.
15:36Virgo and a Cancer is a stunning match.
15:38Everybody says that.
15:39And then whenever I, you know, kind of like Googled it and like tried to find out, they're like, one of my biggest matches is Cancer.
15:44And I was like, I kind of naturally fell into that.
15:46Yeah.
15:46Oh, I love that.
15:48Oh, my gosh.
15:48Oh, I love that.
15:50Okay.
15:50So, let's talk a little bit about your origin story, almost.
15:54Where are you from?
15:55How did you get here?
15:57What is that look like?
15:59So, oh, man, we can go all the way back to the beginning.
16:02Like, when I really started falling in love with this whole, like, artistic endeavor, it was my mom.
16:07My mom is actually an immigrant.
16:09She came from Peru.
16:10So, that's a country in South America.
16:12And when she got here, we're talking about the most cliche, stereotypical, like, American dream story.
16:17She came here with nothing.
16:18And she worked her butt off.
16:20She would do anything, babysit, like, walk dogs, like, you know, anything to make money.
16:23And then she met my father and the love story began.
16:27And then they got married and had kids.
16:29And so, I still remember my earliest and fondest memories of my mother is she would, she would, they were too poor to afford English classes, like, proper English classes to go to a school and learn it.
16:40So, she would sit in front of the TV and watch movies, like, old Hollywood classics.
16:45And I still, like I said, my earliest, my, like, hazy memories are sitting in my mom's lap watching all of these Hollywood classic films with her so she would learn English.
16:54Yeah.
16:54And I'm learning English too, I'm a kid.
16:57Yeah.
16:57But also, I'm sitting there watching Steve McQueen, The Great Escape.
17:00I actually ride a motorcycle now because of that movie, The Great Escape, where Steve McQueen famously is trying to jump the barbed wire fence to get out of the concert theater camp.
17:08Like, I drive a BMW R9T Scrambler because it looks just like that from the movie.
17:13And I was like, those are those things in life where my fondest memories are linked to that and, like, storytelling and, like, sharing those moments with my mom where, you know, we would laugh at, you know, funny moments in those, like, you know, movies or cry and, like, the very dramatic ones and stuff.
17:26And I could see how impactful watching films are or watching TV shows.
17:31And I was like, oh, this is amazing.
17:33I would love to be able to be in a position to do this, to be impactful and to, like, change people's, like, you know, if you really look at it, you're just sitting in front of a TV screen.
17:43But yet you can laugh and cry.
17:45And, like, you can feel all these amazing emotions.
17:47And they're extremely real.
17:49And it's, like, that's powerful.
17:50It's cool.
17:51And I was like, if there's any way possible I could be a part of this, I want to do that.
17:53But that was kind of the genesis of it.
17:57But you're a young boy in a very remote town of Oklahoma.
18:02Okay.
18:02So I'm a Midwest boy.
18:04Bottlesville, Oklahoma is where I was raised mostly.
18:07I fell in love with that.
18:08And if we really want to get deep, when you have a small town, it's very nurture-versus nature.
18:14Like, you're in a small town.
18:16And when I would go to the movie theaters and see these movies, and, like, I was just so moved by them.
18:20But you feel like being born and raised in a small town, someone else gets to live that dream.
18:27It's real for them.
18:29But it's not for a small town here.
18:31And that disconnect and stuff, I always, like, it was bitter for me.
18:34It was kind of...
18:37I don't know if we want to get real real.
18:39Yeah.
18:39Let's get real real.
18:40So one of my favorite movies is Aladdin.
18:43And there's a key scene in that movie where he's protecting these kids in the streets because he's a street rat.
18:50Yeah.
18:51And the kids go out in front of the suitors that are being sent over to marry Princess Jasmine.
18:56You know, it's like this prince, this, like, arrogant prince.
18:58And the kids jump out in front of the horse because they want to play.
19:00And then the prince steers up.
19:03Aladdin jumps up to protect them.
19:05And he almost, like, whips the kids.
19:06And he's like, if I was as rich as you, I'd learn some manners.
19:09You know, that scene.
19:09Yeah.
19:10And the prince kicks him, kicks Aladdin into the mud.
19:14And he was like, you were born a street rat.
19:16You'll die a street rat.
19:18And only your fleas will mourn you.
19:20And he goes inside the palace.
19:22And Aladdin gets up to go fight him, of course, you know.
19:24And they shut the palace doors on him.
19:26And I feel like that...
19:28I don't know why that scene hit me so much as a kid.
19:31Because I felt like the palace doors of opportunity, of success, of, you know, whatever that means to you.
19:37Of, like, whatever your dream is.
19:39There is a certain echelon or cast of people that get to pursue those things or are allowed to do that, you know, because of opportunity.
19:45And the rest of us almost feel like the palace doors get shut up.
19:49Yeah.
19:49And so, I always looked at that as kind of, like, this genesis for me of, I got to find a lamp.
19:57I got to find a genius.
19:59Yeah.
19:59Yeah.
20:01Yeah.
20:01I got to rub, you know, two cents together and try to make a dollar or, like, you know, find a lamp that can grant you these wishes and change your life for the better.
20:11Marry a princess and then live in the palace.
20:14And then your whole life changes.
20:15And for me, chasing that, I always felt like my magic lamp was education.
20:23My parents instilled that to me as such a young kid.
20:26And that's what immediately, whenever I graduated high school from Oklahoma, I went to NYU.
20:31You went straight to the city.
20:32I went straight to the palace.
20:34Yeah, you did.
20:34The palace doors weren't shut on me for that.
20:36For instance, that was my way in, was education.
20:38So, I went and did my undergrad at NYU.
20:40I was in New York City, Manhattan of all places.
20:42And it was amazing.
20:44And then later on in life, you know, I went and got my MBA from USC.
20:48And so, everything changes when I got to rub my magic lamp and the genie came out.
20:54And opportunities started happening for a young boy who, if I didn't chase those things or didn't, you know, pursue education, I would almost feel like the, I don't think that genie would have ever come out.
21:04But the genie has.
21:05And you get to actually get, you know, grant those wishes.
21:07Have you ever had a project that seems a little intimidating or out of your league or anything?
21:14Yeah, I think whenever, we had some viral comedic web series that me and somebody started.
21:20And it was doing very well.
21:21And so, we were starting to get attention from big brand names.
21:23We worked with Disney, like Mattel, Lucasfilm, and Lucasfilm was the one.
21:27It was whenever the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm happened.
21:30It was around episode seven, whenever J.J. Abrams was doing, like, you know, the big re, the last, like, you know, episode or whatever.
21:37The new ones.
21:38And they were doing a huge global marketing push.
21:40And so, they reached out to us and they said, hey, we love what you guys do.
21:43Can you come to L.A. shoot at Disney Studios and we'll give you the Mos Eisley Cantina bar set with Stormtroopers and everything.
21:51Like the real one.
21:52The real one.
21:53Like, that's what's so crazy.
21:54And when they reached out to us, we're like, us?
21:57Yeah, you're like, uh, hello.
21:58Yeah, of course.
22:00You know what I mean?
22:00It was one of those moments where it's just like, oh, God, okay.
22:02You just say yes, right?
22:04Even though it's intimidating.
22:05It's Star Wars.
22:06I watched it ever since I was a kid.
22:07I loved this.
22:09And then it was like, all right, so now we have to deliver.
22:11And so, we prep like crazy, obviously.
22:14And you make sure that, you know, you don't stumble when you walk in.
22:17Yeah, right.
22:18Of course, this is normal for us.
22:19But we walked in and I'm a giddy kid.
22:22I'm seeing the Cantina bar scene from, it's the first time that Han Solo and Chewie meet Luke Skywalker, the famous Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan.
22:29And I'm seeing it in real life.
22:31And so, they gave us extras too.
22:32So, they had like the whole, like the aliens are in there.
22:36You've got like the aliens playing like the music and the band.
22:39And then we shot our thing.
22:40We did it.
22:41And we got out of there.
22:42Just like anything in life.
22:44Like people get jittery or have butterflies before like a big game on like weekends and stuff.
22:48Like I used to play basketball.
22:49And so, like when you would show up and like all the crowd's going crazy and all of a sudden you start getting some butterflies.
22:54But then once you start doing your warm-ups and you're doing the game, they all disappear.
22:58And then all of a sudden you just do your thing.
23:00Same thing happens on set with me.
23:01It's like, you know, once you're actually in a scene and doing your thing, like it doesn't matter if there's like 50 crew members or there's like even producers sitting there and stuff like that.
23:09They all just kind of disappear, right?
23:11So, the same thing happened on this set with the Cantina Barsing.
23:13We ended up getting into like the role of like us doing our thing.
23:17Everyone disappeared.
23:18And we're actually, in fact, everyone's cracking up and laughing.
23:21And they're like, dude, these guys, who are these guys?
23:22They're freaking funny.
23:23And all of a sudden everybody kind of like rallied behind us because we were like the no-names, you know.
23:27And then all of a sudden they did so well when they put it online that they put us on the front page of StarWars.com.
23:33So, anytime they do like the May the 4th be with you, you know, kind of pusher, like campaign, they always kind of like, you know, tag it and like, you know, hey, remember these guys?
23:41It's really cool.
23:42So, I got like a piece of Star Wars that, you know, this entire thing that was so, you know, monumental in my like, you know, young childhood life.
23:48So, I got to have a part of it.
23:49It was fun.
23:49When you were on the set, did you recognize all of the characters?
23:53Yeah.
23:54Were you like, wait, I remember this guy.
23:56I was like, I know this one.
23:57I know this one.
23:57Yeah.
23:58And it was, it was, it was the little kid.
24:01So, I actually make the, make the joke and stuff.
24:04It's like when you really tap into something that's beautiful and joyous, it's like your inner kid pops up.
24:08And like, and like all of a sudden those like, my wife calls them pure joy moments.
24:13Yeah.
24:13She loves creating pure joy moments, not only for each other, but like especially for the kids.
24:18Oh, for sure.
24:19And I feel like if you're able to have a career and do jobs here and there that awaken that little child in you, that is the biggest blessing in the world ever.
24:31Yeah.
24:32It's, it's tough.
24:32It really is.
24:33It's like, I mean, to go back to like the impactful scene, like I talked about earlier with the Aladdin one, a lot of people get the palace gates shut on them.
24:40And they feel like it's impossible to get around it or to find their way over the gates, you know, and to sneak into the palace.
24:45And like, I felt like I found my way of getting in, which isn't the same for everybody.
24:49But I do think that, you know, a high percentage chance is education.
24:52That's how you can kind of open up those doors to opportunities for like stuff like this.
24:56It's amazing.
24:56And then like, all of a sudden your inner child is happy.
24:59Right.
24:59It's happy to go to work.
25:00Right.
25:00I feel like something that you said too was saying yes and being brave with opportunity even and seeking something out that you might think you're not right for even.
25:14Like you don't know.
25:15Always take a chance.
25:16Always take a risk.
25:17Always ask.
25:18I feel.
25:18And I feel like you're really good at doing that.
25:21That's exactly what happened actually for the NBA program itself.
25:23I mean, I share with you a story even on set.
25:27Like, you know, it was, I didn't plan to be an NBA student, even at the beginning of that year.
25:33And it was a very, it was like, it was the all is lost moment that they talk about in like the three act story arc of telling a story.
25:43Always lost.
25:44We were telling, we were actually about to sell a TV show and I was working close with everybody.
25:48We got the format together with a very, very successful and famous production company.
25:53We did a co-pro with them.
25:54We brought in a celebrity.
25:56The celebrity had a first look deal at CBS.
25:58We go in to pitch at CBS studios.
26:00Everybody's high-fiving because all they're doing is just cracking jokes with the executive.
26:04Yeah.
26:04We already have shows there.
26:05And so we're just like, it's on the show.
26:07Locked in.
26:08Locked in.
26:08It's like, oh, we did it.
26:11We did it.
26:12And then March 2020 happened.
26:14COVID.
26:15We were like literally flying cloud nine to zero.
26:18We're talking like the roller coaster of like entrepreneurship and like chasing the dream and stuff.
26:23Like you can have the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.
26:26And that lowest of low hit hard.
26:29And then my daughter was born in the middle of April, April 2020.
26:34And it was so bad.
26:36And like, you know, it was such a unique time in like the world, you know, they were even threatening to kick me out of the delivery room.
26:42So my wife would have had to like deliver Cosette alone.
26:45And so enough lawsuits that happened on the East Coast with like fathers suing hospitals.
26:51And so now it happened here on the West Coast that they were like, all right, fine.
26:54Only you can be there.
26:55I'm like, you know, thanks.
26:56Thanks for letting me be there.
26:56Yeah.
26:57Thank you for letting me be there.
26:58Let me be there.
26:59With my wife and baby.
27:00With my wife and baby.
27:01And so my wife, April 2020, we're holding a crying baby.
27:05And she looks at me and she's like, what are you going to do?
27:07Yeah.
27:08Yeah.
27:08And like there's those moments in life, like I said, like the all is lost moments where you really, really find out who you are, you know, where your back's up against the wall.
27:16Go is the proverbial.
27:17You got like multiple barrels.
27:18You're looking down them, you know, pointed at your head.
27:20And like, what do you do?
27:21I just think that's really important for us to just talk about too, just because it seems so easy, right?
27:28Our lives and the things we've been able to achieve, but.
27:31In social media, you only post the best parts.
27:32Yeah.
27:33I'm not posting myself crying in the bed at night.
27:36Yeah.
27:36Yeah, exactly.
27:37You don't, you don't post whenever.
27:38I'm not.
27:39Your whole world crumbles and you have a crying baby and your wife looks at you saying, what are you going to do?
27:43You don't post that moment.
27:45You post when I got accepted to USC and I was like, yeah, I'm going to be a Trojan.
27:48Yeah.
27:48I was like, oh, that's so cool.
27:49Yeah.
27:49You don't, you don't post the dark moments of your soul.
27:52It's just really inspiring though, to hear that you had this happen and then you did the USC move.
27:57You know what's crazy?
27:58Um, it was kind of like these.
28:00So after I go to USC and I get trapped, I tapped into this like Trojan.
28:04It's not the Trojan network.
28:05Yeah, look at his socks, guys.
28:06I'm always rocking the.
28:08Do you kind of feel bad for NYU a little?
28:10Are you like, that's like the stepchild?
28:13I was like, I really felt what it meant to have like a network.
28:17Yeah.
28:17When you tap, when you tap into the Trojan network, it is nothing like I've ever experienced
28:22in my life.
28:22And the joke is that it's not the Trojan network, it's the Trojan mafia.
28:25Uh-huh.
28:26Like, um, I actually got linked up with the School of Cinematic Arts.
28:30So I actually did part of one of the minor majors that I did underneath the MBA was a
28:34business of entertainment.
28:36And so they would actually take a lot of these Marshall kids, they would mark the business
28:38school and they would pop us over at the cinematic arts, the School of Cinematic Arts.
28:43And we would actually interact with those professors and like talk about the business
28:45of the entertainment world.
28:46And I actually got linked up with some pretty famous like directors, famous like, um, entertainment
28:52lawyers and stuff like that.
28:53And I remember I've had multiple lunches where they only say yes because you're a fellow Trojan.
28:58Right.
28:59And I'm sitting there and I'm talking to one who was really, really successful.
29:02And I remember we immediately hit it off.
29:05Like we were talking, we're talking about, and I took a moment, even at the lunch, it
29:09was one of those moments where you just say, blurt something out and you're like, oh, shit,
29:13that was really prepared.
29:13I was like, I didn't mean to do that.
29:15But I remember telling him, I was like, I feel like there's nothing that connects people
29:19faster than shared suffering.
29:22Oh, beyond.
29:24And the fact that he could feel it.
29:26He felt that I'd been in the trenches.
29:28He felt that I'd suffered.
29:29He felt that like I fought my way out.
29:31Yeah.
29:32The same way he did, all of a sudden you're like connected because you had this shared
29:37suffering where you both know how hard it can be.
29:41And then, yeah, we're instantly connected.
29:45We're like instantly BFS.
29:46Like all of a sudden, it's almost like us.
29:48It's like, we're prior to this.
29:51Yeah.
29:51It's like, we're both East Coast, like, you know, the New York life and stuff like that.
29:53It's tough.
29:54Yeah, you connect with someone immediately because you had that shared, if you call it suffering,
29:59it's like if you were in the trenches together.
30:00Oh, yeah, definitely.
30:01That's exactly what it feels like.
30:02I feel like also kind of hitting on what you were talking about with Aladdin and you were
30:06like, I need that genie, that genie lamp, which is education for you.
30:11Yeah.
30:11And so you went to USC and the thing is, I still feel this way about college being important.
30:17You do, even if you're not necessarily taking the classes seriously, which you should, but
30:22you make a network of people.
30:24And that's, that's who gets you the job.
30:26Like that's who kind of helps you secure different things.
30:31So what's so funny is that on set, whenever we shoot these things, you would think that
30:35we would like, we do goof a lot around.
30:37We like dance and do stupid stuff.
30:38But then all of a sudden, when this part of me comes out and like, you know, they find
30:42out, I actually have like two hour, three hour conversations about people about running
30:46strategy for what they want to do, their current situation, where they want to be in five,
30:5010, 20 years.
30:51And then we kind of reverse engineer and map it out.
30:53Mm-hmm.
30:53That's, I love it.
30:55I actually enjoy it.
30:55You're like a life coach.
30:57Yeah.
30:58Kind of.
30:58Without actually doing it.
31:00You just naturally are like a wizard, I'd say.
31:04Yeah.
31:05Or like maybe a Star Wars character.
31:08I think we might have some Star Wars trivia coming up.
31:11Oh my gosh, yeah.
31:12Okay, so back to your knowledge on Star Wars.
31:16I think we're going to do some quickfire trivia.
31:18I'm going to try to do this.
31:19I'm going to try and do everybody proud.
31:21Let's see how well you know Star Wars.
31:23Which episode number is the first Star Wars film?
31:28Four.
31:29Yes!
31:30Yes, brother.
31:32Yes.
31:32I thought these were going to be super hard.
31:34Okay.
31:36Okay, this one's really hard.
31:37Okay, okay, okay.
31:38What color is Yoda's lightsaber?
31:41Yoda's?
31:42Yeah.
31:43Yellow.
31:44No.
31:46Really?
31:47Do you know?
31:48Yeah.
31:48I did know this one.
31:50I did.
31:51Green.
31:52Yeah!
31:52Of course it's green.
31:53Of course.
31:53It's either that or green.
31:55Yeah, yeah.
31:56It's not red.
31:57All right, boo.
31:57Okay, okay.
31:58Next.
31:59Who trained Anakin Skywalker to become a Jedi?
32:03Obi-Wan Kenobi.
32:04Yes.
32:05Yeah.
32:05Yeah.
32:06Obi-Wan Kenobi.
32:07You're our only hope.
32:08Yes.
32:09What is the name of the Wookiee homeworld?
32:16Chewbacca's homeworld?
32:17It says Wookiee.
32:19Oh, no.
32:20Wait, it's Kashak.
32:24What was that?
32:24Is that right?
32:26I think you pronounced it correctly with the right accent, right?
32:28Is that Kashak?
32:30Kashak.
32:31What's the Wookiee?
32:32It's the big dog.
32:33Oh, that?
32:33Oh, that guy.
32:34Yeah.
32:35Oh, that guy.
32:37Han Solo's homie.
32:39Speaking of Han Solo, okay.
32:40Han Solo's ship name was?
32:42Millennium Falcon.
32:43Yeah, okay.
32:43I knew that.
32:44Come on.
32:45Oh, that's it.
32:46That's it?
32:46That's all we got.
32:47I did pretty good.
32:48Yeah, you did great.
32:49I thought you were coming at me with some hard stuff.
32:50Oh.
32:52So you've done so many different real short series, which out of all of them, if you had
32:58to pick, is your favorite?
32:59I know.
32:59It's like, it's asking like, which one's your favorite kid?
33:01I know.
33:01It's hard.
33:02It's hard.
33:02I think I always go back to what started this entire journey, and it's definitely the
33:07billionaire's baby bargain.
33:09I don't know.
33:09We talked to it.
33:09We touched on it earlier.
33:10My favorite director is Nani.
33:12Yeah.
33:12I know you've worked with her, too.
33:13Yeah.
33:13Phenomenal.
33:14Like, she comes on set.
33:15She has the vision.
33:16She executes perfectly.
33:18But in spite of all that, she's still willing to let you play.
33:20Like, and she's willing to like, have a scene kind of come out and go a different direction
33:24than what she initially thought.
33:25And she will let you do your thing.
33:28And if it's better, it's always the best idea wins, which is what I love the most about
33:31working with her.
33:32Because when we first got on set together, it was my first vertical ever.
33:35And same thing with her.
33:36Like, she was like, still trying to figure out the, all like, you know, the logistics of
33:39it all.
33:40But we really latched onto each other and helped create something really profound, I think.
33:44And a lot of people responded to it.
33:46It's like the most viral of all the series.
33:47It's the one that started it all.
33:48And it was very, very successful.
33:50And then it kind of got, where it's like, you know, let it keep going.
33:54You know, it's like, you've got this giant snowball already built up.
33:56Let's just keep it going.
33:57And now I can't look back.
33:58Like, it's been such a great experience so far on Real Short.
34:01Was there, I know this is such a classic cliche question, but was there any super funny or
34:09memorable moments from that set that you can share with us?
34:12I think one that really hits home as far as the family.
34:15There's a famous story about Pacino when he goes, because I studied in New York City on
34:20the East Coast with like very conservative minded, like blah, blah, blah.
34:22When Pacino goes and does Shakespeare in the Park, he actually calls up conservatories and
34:26he's like, give me your kids.
34:27That won't be weird about it.
34:28Because he likes to actually hear the words spoken to him.
34:31So he'll actually recruit some of the conservatory kids to go on like an emptied out stage and
34:36he'll be on there and they have all the kids surround him with all the different characters
34:39with open folios and they'll actually say the words.
34:42And that's how he learns his lines.
34:44I don't know if that's BS or not.
34:45Of the other characters?
34:46Of the other characters.
34:47So Pacino portrays his character, but he wants to hear it and be in the space of the other
34:51actors, like, you know, saying their lines.
34:54So he'll recruit some conservatory kids to go do that.
34:56And I always like remember that story, whether it's true or not, I don't know.
34:59I haven't met him.
35:00So I just heard of that story.
35:02I was like, that's cool.
35:03I also like hearing it too.
35:05And it helps me like learn lines with the other, the lead actresses.
35:08I'll actually have them record lines for me and I'll have them in my ears when I work
35:11out and I walk the dog, like every single moment of like a reprieve, I always have them
35:16in my ears.
35:16So then like the lines getting like your blood literally.
35:19And that's what allows me actually to actually improv and be open in the space.
35:22It's like your freedom.
35:23And Daniella was so nice to do that for me.
35:26And she was on FaceTime and we were talking and the kids, of course, anytime I'm doing it,
35:29but even with work or like, you know, other clients or the other actresses, hey, they
35:34like jump on, she was so amazing with the kids.
35:36Like, she's just like, oh, hi, what's your name?
35:38Like Maverick's like, hey.
35:39And every single time I do these, these series, the other leads, the other characters, the
35:46other actors, when they interact with like members of my family, the most amazing people
35:49ever.
35:50I mean, like even with you today, it was like, you're doing like your twirls and stuff with
35:53my daughter.
35:54But they, I do have to say and interject here.
35:57You do kind of have the cutest, most amazing family.
36:01I think anyone's met.
36:03All thanks to my wife.
36:04Yeah.
36:05You did a good job.
36:05Yes, you did.
36:06And so, yeah, those interactions that they have with my family have only been nothing but
36:11positive.
36:12And so I think those are the big things.
36:14And if you want like, you know, just the hilarity and the fun that we have on set behind the
36:17scenes, like I was referencing earlier.
36:19I actually do make little TikTok videos of just, just dumb BTS videos.
36:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:23Just being dumb, dancing, laughing, having a good time.
36:27And when we cut them together, people feel that.
36:29It's like palpable.
36:30And people in the comments are always saying, it's like, God, being on set with you sounds
36:33like it's so much fun.
36:34Like it is.
36:35It's great.
36:35Yeah.
36:36Yeah.
36:36Yeah.
36:37Yeah.
36:37So you talk so much about these fun, positive moments on this specific set.
36:42How has Real Short in general impacted your life?
36:45Uh, even more so with the fact that there's this amazing community of fandom that Real
36:51Shorts has cultivated.
36:52I think a lot of people like to try and like, you know, they, they want to go out and say
36:57like, let's make a community.
36:59Real Shorts has that.
37:00And they're extremely caring.
37:03Like, uh, even lately, like, you know, LA is still going through it.
37:07Like very close friends of mine lost their, all their life, their livelihood.
37:10They lost their homes in the fires, Altadena, Pacific Palisades.
37:14And in the middle of it all, a lot of the fandom were in my DMs and messaging my wife
37:20even saying, is Maverick and Cozy okay?
37:23And I had to kind of take a step back because I was like, these are fans from Europe.
37:27These are fans from South America, fans from Asia, calling my family out by name saying,
37:32are you okay and safe?
37:34And they genuinely care.
37:36And I thought that that was something where I got to see firsthand this unique community
37:41that Real Shorts has and how amazing it is.
37:44I love it.
37:45It was, it was really eyeopening for me and comforting.
37:48And I got to go talk to them and stuff and like, you know, message everybody back.
37:50So thank you so much.
37:51Thank you so much for checking in.
37:53It meant a lot.
37:54Yeah, for sure.
37:55I mean, there's something that it, it's just almost like an extra, extra point there with
38:02having this beautiful fan base that actually cares about you as a human being as well, which
38:06is just, it's, it's unique.
38:08It's a unique thing.
38:10And would you say that you're the type that definitely tries to answer all the fans?
38:13Do you try to respond to them?
38:14I know there's so many.
38:16I know, but I actually really genuinely do.
38:18There was a, another series that I did.
38:20I referenced it earlier.
38:21It's why we were on the front page of starwars.com where I got some notoriety.
38:24Like I would go to Disneyland or Disney World with my kids and we just stopped.
38:28And my wife is already used to that world.
38:30She was a princess.
38:32Right?
38:32Yeah, yeah, people would wait three hours to meet her and they'd have these little 30
38:37second, 60 second at most, like interactions with a princess.
38:40And you have to remember, you have to pull yourself back.
38:43These kids have had these emotional ties to these princesses ever since they were kids.
38:47Right.
38:47So it's actually a big moment for them to be fun.
38:50And every single interaction is unique.
38:53And if you leave them on a positive note, they'll remember it forever.
38:56And I actually take that, my wife gets it too, because whenever I get stopped, I kind
39:00of create that little 30 second, 60 second magic for them.
39:03And she's the first one to say, you want me to take your camera?
39:05I can take a picture for you guys.
39:05Yeah.
39:06And she's like, yeah, it's like a cute moment.
39:07So I actually adore it when people reach out and say hi and stuff.
39:10Like, I love it.
39:11So everyone who's watching, make sure you definitely reach out to him, especially now
39:15he won't respond to you with a 30 minute clip.
39:17I'm just kidding.
39:19But you should, you should totally reach out to Richard.
39:21He's, he's the nicest guy.
39:23With everything we've talked about, there's so much excitement here in the future as well
39:28of what we're doing, what would you love to see?
39:32What kind of show would you like to do here?
39:33If you could, if you'd be the writer, you know, do the whole thing.
39:36Yeah, writer, director, producer of the whole nine yards.
39:37Yeah, which will probably happen.
39:39Let's, let's be real here.
39:41I would love to, actually.
39:42I've already talked with a couple of people where like, that could possibly be an opportunity
39:45and I'll, I would love it.
39:46I mean, we've already referenced the fact that I wear a lot of hats.
39:49Yeah.
39:49So it's like, yeah, getting in there and actually having control and like, like I said, like control
39:53the reins of where things are moving.
39:55I would love that.
39:55But I think what would be an amazing opportunity would be sci-fi.
39:59I think great.
39:59You know, like a Star Wars themed one where they could go into space or an action thriller
40:03where you could be like a James Bond kind of like, you know, lead man, like going through
40:07man of action.
40:08Let me know what I was telling you about.
40:09Or even horror.
40:10Like it looks like to scare people, you know?
40:11Oh my God.
40:13So talking about, you know, you wear 8,000 different hats and you are such a family man.
40:18How do you balance that?
40:20I think like, I mean, we did kind of touch on it earlier, but I do like the idea of
40:26like finding your why and then finding that endless well.
40:29There's a lot of people on that assignment that I talked about earlier, whenever they,
40:34the quick ways to like find your five whys to get to the soul of any, like, you know,
40:38the actual source of any problem.
40:41The five?
40:41Yeah.
40:42Five whys.
40:42It's like a little quick trick.
40:43If they do in the IT world, they're like engineers.
40:45Whenever they need to find or source a problem in IT, they just like ask you the five whys
40:49really quick.
40:49So why is it happening?
40:50All right.
40:51Well, why is it?
40:51Why is it happening?
40:53And you can get really down to like the, the origin or like the actual problem and you
40:58can solve it at source and not do a bunch of these band-aids and not have it, you know,
41:02have it be a problem again.
41:03And I, and I kind of did that with mine.
41:05I was just like, all right, so why, why do you want to be a dad?
41:08Oh, to provide money.
41:09You know, I got to get money for my kids.
41:10All right.
41:10Well, why?
41:11I was like, well, I'm a provider, you know, you can kind of get rid of the superficial ones
41:15and you can start really getting like, well, by the time you hit the fifth why, you're
41:19like, well, geez, I got to really figure this out.
41:21You know, it's like, what is the big overarching theme of your life of why?
41:25And that was when I really did find the source of it all.
41:28I was like trying, essentially what I'm trying to do is create a little piece of heaven for
41:31my family.
41:32Right.
41:32And like, so what does essentially that take?
41:34It's like, oh God, it takes a lot of work.
41:35It takes a lot of, you know, rigor, a lot of grit, a lot of all that stuff.
41:39And then as when you see them flourish and you see them like, you know, succeed.
41:46Oh God, when you're done at the end of the day, I mean, I told you about it.
41:49Like I was working full time all day and I'd get on a motorcycle and then go try to be
41:53in class in time, try to beat rush hour and be in downtown LA at USC, be in class at six,
41:58six 30.
41:58And then you're, you're wrapping at 10 and then you got to get home at like 11 PM.
42:04And that's your day.
42:05You're done at 11 and you started as early as six and you saw your kids for the first
42:09time.
42:09Usually they're in bed already.
42:11Or if they did stay up, when you open the door and you're just tired and then the kids
42:17are like, daddy, they just come and give you a big hug.
42:20How is that amount of battery that just automatic recharge?
42:23You know, that's why you're doing it.
42:25That's why you're out there battling whatever proverbial dragon of life, you know, and then
42:29you come back and you got your princess at home with your little kids.
42:33I have another question for you.
42:35So in this day and age, I feel like a lot of people, my age, a lot of women specifically,
42:41a lot of girlfriends of mine, we, you know, we grew up with the idea of being like, oh,
42:45I want to be a mom.
42:45I want a family.
42:46Like, that's so exciting.
42:47And now it's almost slowly becoming less accessible.
42:53What are you just as a young dad and who's really making a name for himself in this industry?
43:00Like, how would you recommend, what words of advice would you give to us women, men?
43:06Like.
43:06I think it's, it's extremely putting yourself with finding the communities where you have
43:12the like-minded people.
43:14I think how I can tackle this, this question is, what advice I would give my own daughter
43:18if she was having struggles and like trying to find some place and like needing to get
43:21out of whatever circle she was in where she felt like it wasn't the right place to be.
43:25And she wanted to be in another realm, but you don't quite have access to it yet.
43:29Right.
43:29And I feel like that's essentially what I did.
43:31It's finding your magic lamp.
43:32Like, what's your magic lamp?
43:34And there's a lot of people that I can reference and see because I actually did put myself in
43:38an MBA program where you have ambitious people who are disciplined, who are smart and extremely
43:44capable and ambitious.
43:45I feel like that passion in life.
43:47God, that passion.
43:48You think I grew up with like that Latin fuego?
43:51Like, my mom, I get it from my mom.
43:53Like, she did the instrument, like the impossible.
43:55She came from a little Pueblito town in the middle of the Andes where they would literally
43:59take showers in a waterfall.
44:00Like, that's how remote it was.
44:02And her dream was to come to America and have a better life for her and her family.
44:06When you say that in the Andes, where it's so remote that people don't like, they speak
44:11Ketchum.
44:11They don't even speak Spanish.
44:12They speak like this little like native tongue, like in the middle of nowhere.
44:14They laugh at you.
44:15Like, it's impossible.
44:16Stop dreaming.
44:17Get your head out of the clouds.
44:18It's almost like the start of a Disney movie.
44:20You know?
44:20Yeah.
44:21No, actually.
44:21It's like, it's too big.
44:22It's too ambitious.
44:23You bring it down to reality.
44:24And she was like, no, I'm going to chase this.
44:27And that kind of taking on that insurmountable challenge, like, you know, something that
44:32has been dubbed impossible by everyone around you.
44:35You're in the wrong circle.
44:37The people that say, no, it's impossible.
44:39Okay.
44:39So that's their reality.
44:40You need to find the people where it's not.
44:42That's what she did.
44:43She put herself in a different scenario in a different circumstance where people actually
44:46say, you know what?
44:47Chase it.
44:48It is possible.
44:50And that's where I would put my own daughter.
44:52I would tell her, it's like, be in those circles where people don't, the first thing
44:55they've got near-jerk reaction isn't a no, it's a yes.
44:58And I saw in my own eyes, like, when they pierce them, like, it's called the Socratic
45:03method.
45:03Like, whenever you do higher education, when they fill you in the stadium seating, it's
45:07almost like a theater.
45:08Like, when you go visit Greece, you'll literally see it's a replication of it.
45:11And you'll see, and you'll look around in the audience, and there's fellow people who
45:15are just as ambitious as you, who are passionate, and are chasing something
45:18big, what do you do with like-minded people?
45:21They procreate, you know?
45:22It's like, there's friends of mine that got, that hooked up and, like, you know, got
45:25their significant others in class because they were both chasing something big.
45:29A couple of marriages, I think, happened out of it.
45:31So I would tell my own daughter, I was like, go to an MBA program, go into higher ed.
45:34Like, somebody was like, go find the places that will do the weeding out for you.
45:39It's like, a university takes applications and weeds out through all these different
45:43people, the best of the best, they didn't work for you.
45:46Literally.
45:47I know it's kind of messed up.
45:49No, it's honestly a pretty good method, though.
45:52It didn't work for you.
45:53And then if you get into that program, you have the best of the best and the cream of
45:56the crop in the room with you.
45:59Of like-minded people.
46:00I think going back to like my little, that little girl who my mom, it's like, talking to
46:06my mom is phenomenal.
46:07Because like, when I feel like anything, even when COVID happened, I felt like everything,
46:11my world crumbled.
46:12Right.
46:12What do you call?
46:13Mom.
46:13I called a woman in my life that did the impossible.
46:16Yeah.
46:17And she told me, it is.
46:18You just got to chase it with like reckless abandon.
46:21And that's what I did.
46:22And good things happen.
46:24You have a really good mom.
46:26Yeah.
46:26I love my mom.
46:27She's great.
46:28She's so great.
46:29Yeah.
46:29Yeah.
46:29Really inspiring.
46:31Have you seen the quote?
46:34I've seen it on Instagram or something.
46:35It's, um, some people will post it on their story, but it's like, the millionaire won't
46:41make fun of you for starting a business or like the influencer or the content creator
46:44won't make fun of you for making like a dumb video.
46:46Yeah.
46:47The, so it's just people who aren't thinking that way are the ones who are like, what
46:51are you doing?
46:52Why are you posting so much?
46:53But the content creator with 10 million followers is like, yeah, girl, go do it.
46:57All I, I'm the worst person to come to when people want to try and like bring their kids
47:01to reality.
47:02They're like, they want to be an influencer, YouTuber, like talk to Richard.
47:04I'm the one who puts gasoline on the fire.
47:07I'm like, go for it.
47:08I bet you do.
47:09But here's some tools that can help you.
47:11You know what I mean?
47:11Listen, here, yeah, come into my office.
47:13Don't ever, don't ever tell me not to chase a dream because that's exactly what I did.
47:17You just need to have a bigger toolkit.
47:19Right.
47:20If you're chasing that because you're, you're charting into a path that's unknown.
47:23And boy, if you don't have any like business acumen or like a foundation to come off of,
47:29yeah, it's going to fail.
47:29The failure rate for MBAs starting businesses is 90%.
47:32Imagine how much it is for someone with a zero business background.
47:35I know.
47:35That's what I'm saying.
47:36It's like, there's realities that come into play, but I'm not, I'll never squash somebody's
47:40dream.
47:41Never.
47:42Because it's the thing that lights, it gives that light in their eye.
47:45Why would I put that out?
47:46Of course not.
47:47If all I want to do is actually add stuff to it.
47:49I want to be like, here's the tools you need to make it bigger.
47:52Go for it.
47:54You're like everybody's bestie.
47:56We'd love that.
47:57Oh, Richard, it has been so amazing chatting with you.
48:01This has been such a long time.
48:03We've needed to do this.
48:05I know.
48:05All right, everyone.
48:06Thank you so much for tuning in.
48:07We can't wait to see your next show.
48:09I know.
48:10It's crazy, but in a good way, in a good way.
48:13Okay.
48:13So here on Real Talk, we have a little tradition where we'd love you to take a selfie for our
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48:18That's awesome.
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