Premier Mickoski twierdzi, że Macedonia Północna była „zastraszana” na drodze do członkostwa w UE

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Premier Mickoski twierdzi, że Macedonia Północna była „zastraszana” na drodze do członkostwa w UE  Macedonia Północna, która spędziła ponad dwie dekady, czekając na przyjęcie do UE, ma nadzieję, że oczekiwanie w końcu dobiegnie końca. Premier Mickoski powiedział w wywiadzie dla Euronews, że przystąpienie jego kraju do UE zostało opóźnione z powodu „sztucznych sporów”.  CZYTAJ WIĘCEJ : http://pl.euronews.com/2025/11/10/premier-mickoski-twierdzi-ze-macedonia-polnocna-byla-zastraszana-na-drodze-do-czlonkostwa-  Zasubskrybuj nasz kanał.Euronews jest dostępny na Dailymotion w 12 językach

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00:00punkt

00:08Idille urodz advisek 9 irr sił

00:12udział live w 21 webinars

00:14Ministerza Miec

00:17miście

00:18thank you for being here

00:19thank your for the bagnieve

00:21you are at meillä

00:24character you flying

00:26the country you do the application in

00:28w marcu 2004.

00:30Practycznie,

00:32zaczęliśmy tę drogę

00:34więcej niż dwa lata temu,

00:36dwa lata temu,

00:3825 lat temu.

00:4025 lat temu

00:42zakończyliśmy

00:44Stabilizacją i Associação

00:46z Europą.

00:48Znaczyliśmy

00:50z 2005,

00:52razem z Kroatią.

00:54Znaczyliśmy

00:56zakończyliśmy

00:58zakończyliśmy

01:00w 2009 roku

01:02razem z Kroatią.

01:04Znaczyliśmy,

01:06jesteśmy w tym samym miejscu,

01:07gdzie jesteśmy

01:0825 lat temu.

01:10Znaczyliśmy,

01:12nie dlatego, że

01:14nie dlatego, że

01:16nie dlatego, że

01:17nie dlatego, że

01:19nie dlatego, że

01:20nie dlatego, że

01:21nie dlatego, że

01:23to, że

01:25nasze nazwisko,

01:26nasze nazwisko,

01:27nasze nazwisko,

01:29nasza kanalne,

01:30nasza kanalne,

01:31nasza kanalne,

01:32jest to,

01:33to, że

01:34tak,

01:35jeszcze raz,

01:36dodatkowe,

01:37Więc to nie chodzi o wyświetlenie i wyświetlenie wyświetlenie.

01:43To nie chodzi o wyświetlenie.

01:45Jak się czuje, że za około dwa tygodnie, w stanie się wyświetlować,

01:50że jeszcze więcej i więcej drogów?

01:53Myślę, że nasze przyszłość jest w Europie Unii.

01:58Jesteśmy częścią Europy kontinentu.

02:01I wierzymy, że integracja z Europą w Europie w Europie,

02:06to znaczy added value dla Europie itself.

02:09I to znaczy re-unification, na pewien sposób,

02:14na pewien kontinentie europejskiego.

02:17Myślę, że przyszłość mojej kraj i przyszłość mojej nacji,

02:21Macedonii, jest w Europie Unii.

02:25Dlatego, po prostu, podczas tych umiliacji i dyspozycji,

02:30I poświęcony z obecną frustracją, która jest w środku naszych czterech,

02:35we do share the same values.

02:37Let's talk a little more in detail about some of those.

02:41Right after finding an arrangement with Greece,

02:44you then faced a veto from Bulgaria.

02:48And this is the current situation.

02:50This issue of unanimity and then the vetoes, obviously,

02:53is a very important conversation.

02:55And do you know exactly how long it can take?

02:59We know what unanimity means for us

03:03and what type of sacrifice we've did in the past.

03:10But nevertheless, this is the past.

03:11I would like to talk about the current situation.

03:17When there was a PRESP agreement on the table

03:20and when this name issue was on the table,

03:25a lot of people from all over the world came into our capital in Skopje,

03:31trying to convince us that, look, you are the frontrunners in the region.

03:36You are far, far ahead compared with the other countries from the Western Balkans.

03:40immediately when you will provide solution for this dispute,

03:44then probably immediately you've become a member of NATO

03:48and it will take probably four or five years

03:52and you will become a member of the EU.

03:54Those four or five years expired two years ago.

03:57And we are at the same place where we were two and a half decades ago.

04:03Why? Because now a new hurdle, new constraint is in front of us.

04:08Again, change of a constitution.

04:10We need to add into the preambula of our constitution,

04:16which is a descriptive part of our constitution,

04:20a part of Bulgarian people which are living in our country.

04:26And according to the last census data,

04:28we are talking about a couple of hundred people.

04:31We are not talking about millions.

04:33We are not talking about hundreds of thousands of people.

04:35We are talking about literally a couple of hundred people,

04:39which declared during the last census

04:43that their mother tongue is Bulgarian language.

04:47But however, citizens of my country, full of frustration,

04:52are asking me, okay, Prime Minister, what is now?

04:55What is now the problem?

04:57Why we need to change our constitution again?

05:02Okay, if we do this, this will be the last one,

05:08or probably there will be some additional in the future.

05:12Why we need to bring a couple of hundred citizens of our country

05:17into our constitution?

05:20We are talking about violation of someone's human rights.

05:24Who we are politicians to judge,

05:26whether someone's rights has been violated or not.

05:30We can only misuse that issue.

05:32The real institution,

05:34which is judging whether someone's rights has been violated or not,

05:37is in Strasbourg.

05:39And what European Court for Human Rights says,

05:44during the last couple of years,

05:4614 times in favor of Macedonian community in Bulgaria,

05:53and zero times in favor of Bulgarian community in my country.

05:59So, then there is another question, additional question.

06:02Why we should change our constitution then?

06:06Why we are not talking about Macedonian community in Bulgaria?

06:10What about their human rights?

06:13What about their human rights?

06:15Because they are not allowed to register non-governmental organization.

06:20We are not talking about change of Bulgarian constitution.

06:24We are not talking about a sort of reciprocity.

06:28We are talking about registering non-governmental organization.

06:32And what we are saying, okay,

06:34previous, the best corruptive government in Europe,

06:39accepted that deal to change constitution,

06:42suspending the parliament in my country,

06:45suspending the voice of the parliament in my country,

06:49and they are now in the history.

06:52There is a new government,

06:53and this new government is saying,

06:54okay, those guys,

06:58those ladies and gentlemen accepted,

07:02But what about international law?

07:05What about resolution that is protecting human rights

07:10in the countries which are in the perimeter of the European Union?

07:15How do you communicate that specifically with this community?

07:19How do you build this dialogue with them,

07:23trying to convince them, probably, or explain it to them?

07:28You mean about the Bulgarian community?

07:31They have all the rights.

07:33Our constitution is that like.

07:36They have literally all the rights.

07:39Practically, they are a part of our institutions.

07:43But okay, again, I'm saying, okay,

07:45they are in, we are out.

07:47This is a bit of bullying, okay?

07:49We would like to see ourselves on the table in Brussels.

07:54And what is now the price?

07:56And whether this is the last price that we should pay?

07:59This is the real question.

08:01How do you see the other EU membership hopefuls,

08:04the candidate countries,

08:06who are facing quite similar obstacles on their path?

08:10What would be some kind of piece of advice

08:12that you could share with your experience?

08:14Again, given that you had to overcome first one veto,

08:18then the second one veto,

08:19and then, as you said, who knows which one might come next?

08:24I can't remember a similar case.

08:28Maybe in the past that was a dispute between Slovenia and Croatia.

08:33In the meantime...

08:34There is a certain veto happening now with the candidate countries,

08:37as we've heard with the president of Ukraine and the Hungarian.

08:39I'm talking about the past.

08:41About the current situation, I'm not surprised.

08:44I'm not surprised that the similar situation will occur in the future.

08:48Because if someone is witnessing that this veto tool works,

08:54then we should apply the same recipe.

08:57Why not?

08:58Because if someone dares to bully someone else who wants to join the club,

09:04why the others should be silent?

09:06This is not normal.

09:08If we are accepting that principle once,

09:13then this principle will destroy all the values

09:16developed by Degasperi, Schumann and Adonauer

09:19when this organization was developed.

09:22So, the European Union itself should ask themselves,

09:27what we are doing?

09:29What we are doing with this unanimity?

09:32And is it according to the principles and values

09:36based on which we have been developed?

09:40And in this current situation,

09:42my final question to you would be,

09:44how disappointing it is for average Macedonians

09:48to, as you say, for over two decades to be...

09:51These are generations who have been waiting for over two decades

09:55yet facing these roadblocks.

09:57Very much.

09:58Are they losing the motivation to join the European Union?

10:00No, definitely.

10:01The support is the highest in the region maybe,

10:03or among the highest in the region.

10:05I'm working as a professor and teaching mechatronics.

10:08For me, it was in my previous life.

10:11Now I'm the Prime Minister for almost a year and a half.

10:17But I was very sorry when I was witnessing how my students

10:21are willing to depart from the country.

10:24Why?

10:25Because simply they were missing hope.

10:28They felt hopeless.

10:30And most of them are living now in the European countries,

10:38in the EU countries.

10:40When I was elected as a Prime Minister, I said,

10:43OK, this is a hurdle.

10:45Probably there will be a lot of challenges in front of us

10:49until the very end.

10:51This is the destiny of the small nations.

10:54because the big ones are doing what they can

10:56and the small ones are doing what they must.

10:58Unfortunately, we are small.

11:00But let's do our homework.

11:02Let's finish our homework.

11:03Let's create a good environment.

11:05Let's bring back home youngsters

11:08and let's develop something that will be good for them.

11:12And let's deliver homework that will impress EU.

11:17And maybe then someone from EU will say enough is enough.

11:21Let's do something for them.

11:23Otherwise, this is damaging our values

11:28and practically this does not have a future.

11:32And that's why I do believe that we need to finish our homework

11:36and we are delivering since we were elected as a government.

11:41Thank you very much.

11:42We'll have to wrap it up here.

11:43Thank you for this experience and for sharing it with us here

11:46for the enlargement talks.

11:48That was 12 minutes with Prime Minister of North Macedonia,

11:51Kristian Mitskoski.

11:52Thank you.

11:53Thank you for the invitation.

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