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UE ryzykuje utratę wiarygodności, jeśli nie uda jej się rozszerzyć - ostrzega wicepremier Czarnogóry

Czarnogóra jest liderem wśród krajów kandydujących do UE i ma nadzieję na zakończenie rozmów z Brukselą o przystąpieniu w przyszłym roku. Niepowodzenie przystąpienia kraju może podważyć wiarygodność UE i wysłać „zły sygnał” do innych kandydatów - ostrzega wicepremier.

CZYTAJ WIĘCEJ : http://pl.euronews.com/2025/11/10/ue-ryzykuje-utrate-wiarygodnosci-jesli-nie-uda-jej-sie-rozszerzyc-ostrzega-wicepremier-cza

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00:00Muzyka
00:08My guest is Filip Ivanović.
00:11He is the Deputy Prime Minister for European and Foreign Affairs of Montenegro.
00:17And despite being the smallest of all the countries wishing to join the EU,
00:22it is considered a frontrunner and widely tipped to become the next EU member state.
00:28And Deputy Prime Minister, welcome to 12 Minutes With.
00:31Thank you for joining us on Euronews.
00:33Thank you for having me and for talking about Montenegro.
00:35Well, let's talk about Montenegro.
00:37As I said, the smallest but the most advanced on its path to becoming an EU member.
00:43And you just received a glowing appraisal from the European Commission
00:47saying that if you keep up with this speed of reforms,
00:51you are on track to join in the next three years.
00:55Tell us then, what is the secret recipe for Montenegro's success?
01:00Well, first of all, let me tell you that the report that we have just received
01:04is an additional evidence to the plan that we as a government had,
01:09which is to have each of the reports being better than the previous ones.
01:14So, previous year we had the best report up until then,
01:18and now this is the best report ever, so to say.
01:21So, it is an evidence of a very hard work of the government of Montenegro,
01:26but not just of the government, but also of other political institutions in the country.
01:30But it is also an introduction, I would say,
01:34to a very successful intergovernmental conference that we will have by the end of this year,
01:39where we will close several chapters.
01:41And on the other hand, it is, let's say, a blueprint of what we need to do
01:46in the forthcoming 12 or 13 months in order to fulfill our goal to finish the negotiations
01:51and to close all chapters by the end of 26.
01:54So, I would say that the political dedication and hard work are the key ingredients of this success.
02:04If you do meet that target and you are joining the EU around January 2028,
02:09as you aim to do, it will be 20 years since you first applied for EU membership.
02:16Do you feel that the process has been too demanding?
02:20Do you feel it's been too burdensome on you as a country?
02:23It's not an easy question because, of course, it depends in what period of time you make this question.
02:29So, indeed, we have been negotiating for the past 13 years
02:33and for many years the whole process was, I wouldn't say, too demanding, but it was too technical.
02:40There wasn't any political will from the side of the EU member states
02:43to continue with the substance of enlargement.
02:48However, this has changed in the past three years.
02:50I would say that the European Union has finally understood
02:53that enlargement is one of the, if not the best possible, policy that the EU has ever had.
03:00It's actually the essence and the substance of the European Union
03:03and that enlargement plays a key role in transforming the European Union
03:08into a geopolitical and geostrategic player.
03:11So, Montenegro is very much keen on contributing to this kind of dimension of the European Union
03:18and we are looking forward to becoming the first next member, as you have said, of the EU
03:22and this is why we are saying 28 by 28.
03:25So, 28 member states by 2028.
03:27We do hear, however, from EU officials, especially here in Brussels,
03:31concerns about the process of enlarging the Union
03:35and potential plans to integrate new members without giving them full voting rights.
03:43It's, I believe, a particular response to the way that some countries already within the European Union
03:47are using their veto power to block some foreign policy decisions.
03:51How would you feel about, would you accept that in 2028 Brussels would tell you
03:55you can come in to the club, you can join the club, but you won't have the full voting rights
04:01as all other member states have?
04:05Well, I would say that the word concern is one of the key words here in Brussels
04:09and we hear it from time to time on different aspects of European policy.
04:14So, we do understand, of course, that EU has certain needs of being reformed itself.
04:21However, we want this process, without interfering with it, to go hand in hand or in parallel
04:27with the process of enlargement.
04:29What we are aiming at is full-fledged membership into the European Union
04:34and this is why we are doing all the so-called homework in order to qualify
04:38to become equal partner at the table.
04:42But let me tell you, I do understand where these concerns come from.
04:46But, for example, Montenegro has been for years aligned, 100% aligned
04:50with common foreign and security policy and it continues to be so.
04:54And we actually had a different idea to become observers, regular observers
05:00at the Foreign Affairs Council because if we are 100% aligned, why not be there
05:05without the right to vote, of course, until we become members.
05:09But what we expect is no less than full membership in the European Union.
05:13You say that you are 100% aligned with the EU's foreign policy.
05:17Other neighbours in the Western Balkan region are not
05:20and this is potentially why there are new ideas being brainstormed right now
05:23about the potential integration.
05:25Would you be willing to be accepted initially without your full voting rights?
05:31I would say that this is hardly acceptable, especially since, as I said,
05:36for years we have been aligned and why we will not continue to be aligned.
05:40This is a very abstract and theoretical question.
05:45And, of course, we do not want to be victims of anybody else who thinks differently.
05:50So, so far, Montenegro has been aligned.
05:53has given its contribution to every decision of the European Union
05:58regarding its foreign and security policy
06:00and we actually want to contribute to it more actively and not more passively.
06:05Another idea that is making the rounds here in Brussels
06:08is this concept of a probation time
06:11where a new country would join and would be trialed, in a sense,
06:15for a certain amount of time, maybe months, maybe years.
06:18How would you feel about that?
06:19Well, we've been on trial for the past 13 years
06:22and we'll be on trial until we close all negotiation chapters.
06:27So, once we close the negotiation chapters, as far as I'm concerned, the trial is over.
06:31I'd like to ask you a little bit more about the report
06:36that the Commission has just put out.
06:39It does ask you to clamp down on some things and to advance some reforms.
06:43It includes media freedom.
06:45It includes things like more coordination between ministers
06:50because you have quite a big government.
06:53How are you looking to address these concerns?
06:56Well, let me tell you first that, as we said at the beginning,
06:59this is by far the best report that we have ever received.
07:02But, of course, it's not perfect.
07:03If it were perfect, we wouldn't be a candidate country.
07:06We would be already in the top five most advanced EU member states.
07:11So, of course, some work needs to be done.
07:14But there is no chapter in which we had any sort of regress or backsliding.
07:20But, of course, there are certain recommendations
07:22that we want to take into account,
07:25not just regarding the coordination between the ministries,
07:27but also regarding showing even more progress
07:31in those chapters that concern the fight against organized crime and corruption.
07:37We are expecting to have a track record in final verdicts
07:41very soon until we finish the negotiations.
07:44We will, of course, update and upgrade the legislative framework
07:48that regards freedom of expression, media pluralism, and so on, and so on.
07:53But, as I said, all in all, I think this is a very good report
07:59and it is basically very similar to those reports
08:03that certain countries that are now members of the EU
08:06used to get one or two or three years before they joined the European Union.
08:10And, as I said at the beginning,
08:12this report is not just an introduction
08:14to a successful intergovernmental conference by the end of this year,
08:17but it is also a blueprint for the things that we need
08:20and want to do by the end of 26.
08:23I'm going to ask you to perhaps wear your hat of foreign minister
08:26in answering this question.
08:28But, how much of a geopolitical signal would it be
08:33if the EU were to accept Montenegro as a new country?
08:38And, how much of a geopolitical cost would that be
08:42if the EU failed to do that swiftly?
08:47The answer to both of the questions is huge.
08:50So, it would be a huge gain for the European Union
08:53to finally prove that countries that do their job
08:56and that are actually willing to accede, can accede
08:59and can become members of the EU
09:01because, as I said, it is the best policy that EU has ever had
09:04the very substance of the European Union
09:06because if the enlargement does not happen,
09:09not just with Montenegro, but also with other candidate countries,
09:12then the very concept of European Union loses its credibility.
09:16It is not European, it is not Union anymore.
09:18So, with Montenegro, the European Union is going to prove its very name,
09:23it is going to prove its concept, it is going to prove its values,
09:26and it is going to prove its geopolitical status.
09:28However, if that does not happen, then it is a big loss not just for Montenegro
09:34and Canadian countries, but for the European Union
09:36because the European Union will then fail the promises
09:41and it will lose credibility.
09:44For us, it will be a devastating situation
09:46in which we are performing all the reforms
09:48and are not becoming members of the EU,
09:50and it will be a horrible signal to all other Canadian countries
09:55because then they would understand that whatever they do is vain,
09:59and this is something that we cannot accept.
10:02Finally, Deputy Prime Minister,
10:04you come from a region where some countries have been
10:08in the waiting room for decades.
10:10Do you think it could be a pull factor?
10:12That is, could it send an important signal to the Western Balkans
10:16and encourage them to really accelerate their reforms?
10:21If Montenegro were to join,
10:23would it be a broader boost for that region of the world?
10:26As I previously said, if Montenegro does not join,
10:29it's going to be bad for the European Union,
10:31it's going to be bad for Montenegro,
10:33and it's going to send a very bad message
10:34to other Canadian countries,
10:36and it works the other way around.
10:38If Montenegro becomes a member of the EU
10:41according to the fair, strict, and merit-based approach
10:44that we fully support,
10:45and that has been also envisioned
10:47in the enlargement package that we saw,
10:51then, as I said, EU confirms its credibility
10:54and it boosts its geopolitical players' status.
11:00Of course, for us, it boosts our economy, rule of law,
11:04democracy, the feeling of our citizens
11:07that actually feel like they are there
11:10and they are knocking at the door.
11:11They just need this door to be open.
11:14And again, it will be a tremendously important message
11:17to all other Canadian countries
11:18because it will prove that hard work
11:23and political dedication pays off,
11:27to put it in those terms.
11:30But it will also prove all other voices
11:33that are not very friendly towards the Western Balkans
11:35and not very friendly towards the European Union
11:37that keep saying,
11:39whatever you do, you will not become member of the EU.
11:42So we need to prove those voices wrong.
11:45Minister, thank you so much.
11:47All the best with your reforms to come.
11:49Thank you for joining us on 12 Minutes With.
11:51Thank you. Thank you very much.
11:54Thank you so much.
11:55Thank you so much.
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