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Lyft CFO Says Company Focused on Investing
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I think what would be really interesting is, okay, this current period, the outlook is strong,
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but what are the underlying behaviors that you're seeing driving that from riders and the different
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products that they're using? Absolutely. You know, a couple things. One of the nice things is this
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acceleration and the foundation of our performance is multifaceted, really. So we've got, we reported
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in the third quarter, an 18% growth in active riders. And yes, that does incorporate our recent
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acquisition. But even in North America, we're seeing the strongest active rider growth hitting
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all-time highs. That's led to gross bookings at all-time highs, adjusted EBITDA up 29% for the
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quarter, and then a billion dollars in trailing 12-month free cash flow. We've got our partnerships
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with the highest penetration rate ever. That's even before we announced the United Airlines deal.
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We've got, of course, the acquisitions flowing in. And we've got loyalty programs that are,
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you know, differentiated in the industry. And all of this is driving, again, highest retention rates
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ever. So your job's difficult. It's great to have you on the program. You know, and when we have a CFO,
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you have this balance, right? Investing for growth and then discipline. So in Europe, that's been the
01:08
strategy. Invest, M&A. In the United States, you're chasing Uber, you know, and you need to be
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disciplined. And you're very keen to talk about the bottom line performance. You personally, how are you
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managing that right now? What's the priority? Absolutely. You know, a couple of things that
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I would say. Our market is so large, right? That's what we focus on, the penetration and the
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opportunity that exists broadly in the market. 300 billion personal vehicle trips that exist across
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the markets we serve. We're not even close to getting, you know, as an industry, even let alone
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lift where we can potentially be. As it relates to investment, you know, it's pretty easy when you're in a
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growth industry because you've got lots of opportunities. So you're right, as a CFO, you're
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thinking about how do you do that in a disciplined manner? The great thing is, is we're sitting here
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today in a position with the strength of our free cash flow to be able to do that, to take advantage
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of opportunities where we can drive shareholder value. We've also been buying back shares. We'll
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complete a $500 million share repurchase in 2025. So a nice balance, and we see that continuing going
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forward. The opportunity many see, Erin, at this moment is AV. And you've taken interesting
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partnership routes. You're also doing things with Baidu. And there's a real commitment here to
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almost own part of the fleet of robo-taxis. How does that change sort of an asset-like model that
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you've had thus far? Yeah, you know, one of the things I think that's really interesting to
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highlight is that Lyft today owns cars across multiple cities in the U.S. through our subsidiary
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FlexDrive. Drivers can come and rent. So we really understand this model of owning assets. We have
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assets on our balance sheet today. And of course, as the AV market develops, and we've been very
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purposeful about the partnerships that we are entering, you know, we're absolutely going to do
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that in certain cities as we scale, as we learn. Baidu, as you mentioned, is a portion of that.
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We'll be doing a little bit of that in some of our other partnerships. So it's something,
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again, we know how to do. We still see ourselves long term as an asset-like company. But as the
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industry develops, we're going to make some of those investments. What's interesting is,
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I think it's by 2027, you want some of these AVs on the road. I mean, Uber's got a commitment for
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100,000 car goal by 2027. How realistic are these, Erin? You know, that's, you know, I'm not going to
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comment on necessarily their goals. But we absolutely see if you might, you know, look five,
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seven years down the road, you know, perhaps 10% of the volume we serve could be served through AVs,
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both the combination of partnerships that we're in and maybe assets that we own. So it's a huge
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opportunity. I think the other important thing in that stat, though, is you're still going to see
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huge volumes served by drivers. That's why we're really focused on the hybrid network. That's what's
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going to make the difference and be economically viable. Erin, very quickly, what's the timeline to
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integrate the chauffeuring business into the core Lyft app? Yeah, if at all. Well, look, that it
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augments what we've been growing in terms of our own business. We have high value modes, premium modes
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on our platform today. They're up 50% year over year in Q3. So this is a great extension to, you know,
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continue to build out that offering. As it relates to the way that TBR Global Chauffeuring will operate,
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they've got incredible clients all around the world. It's a fantastic business. It's not going to be on the
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app in the near term, but the synergies that we see with the 1,500 independent fleet operators that
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they engage with across the globe, we're going to drive some synergies there. And the service
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capability they bring to our company is incredible.
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