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00:00We are royally on our way to achieve more than 3 degrees centigrade average global temperature hike.
00:07Who is bearing the brunt of climate change?
00:19Ajay Prashant, who do you think is responsible for the climate change?
00:23There are just 100 that are responsible for 70% of the world's carbon emissions.
00:29And the ones who will bear the brunt are the generations who have not done anything or much to deserve the punishment.
00:38But they will be punished.
00:40The ones who are disappearing forever do not even know why they are going extinct.
00:47We, this one, just one species out of the billions that inhabit this planet,
00:53this one species is responsible for mass obliteration.
00:58It's the poor, it's the voiceless that will be left behind to suffer and tragically die.
01:05And suffer a lot before time.
01:07Hello and welcome. This is Devyanshi Samraaf.
01:13In this special NDTV program, we are going to address one of the major issues of today's time.
01:19Who is bearing the brunt of climate change?
01:22Is climate change just about changing weather, melting glaciers and burning earth?
01:30Maybe it's also about people who are bearing the consequences of it all,
01:37who are causing it and who are living the reality of these consequences.
01:43There's a major difference and we want to ask this major question.
01:47Today we have Acharya Prashant with us who have been actively involved in environmental conservation.
01:54And he has been talking about the related subjects in a manner that reaches the masses.
02:01And that help cultivate the inner consciousness that is needed to reverse the changes.
02:08A very warm welcome to this special talk, Acharya Prashant.
02:13When we talk about climate change as it is generally being addressed in popular culture,
02:22in media and journalism and all the other things that we have in relation to them.
02:30What we don't discuss generally is who is actually bearing the brunt of the climate change?
02:37Who are these people who are actually suffering because of the greater challenge that we are facing?
02:47Acharya Prashant, who do you think is responsible for the climate change?
02:51Who can be held accountable and who are bearing the consequences of it all?
02:56This is one of the most tragic aspects of the climate crisis.
03:02The ones who are responsible are going to get away scot-free, almost.
03:13They won't foot the bill. They won't bear the consequences.
03:18Who is responsible? The data is straight on that.
03:25The 5% richest people of the planet, they account for more than 50% of the global carbon emissions.
03:42And the bottom 50%, they account for 5 or 7% of the total carbon emissions.
03:52So, it's the top 1%, top 5% that are majorly responsible to make things more vivid.
04:07I was reading that the average Indian would take more than 2500 years of his usual rate of carbon emission to match the carbon emissions of 2 hours of flight of a particular billionaire's jet.
04:34And that particular billionaire loves to fly his jet.
04:41You could probably say that the average daily flying time might run actually close to 2 hours.
04:52And the average Indian would take 2500 years to match that level.
04:57And yet, it's the Indian who is going to pay the price.
05:02Climate injustice is at several levels.
05:06So, we talked of individuals.
05:09Those who will emit will suffer the least because they have the resources, the wherewithal to get away.
05:20Then there are countries, the global north, that emits the most.
05:27And the global north will be the last one to suffer with the same intensity as the global south would suffer.
05:39Places that are dependent still on normal rainfall for their agriculture, for example.
05:49Places that have great population densities and hence the failure of crops would see mass migration.
05:58These spectres do not belong to the global north even though global north is responsible for the emissions.
06:05If we look at the concentration of excess CO2 in the earth's atmosphere, ideally it should be around 270 parts per million.
06:16Right now it's close to 440 parts per million.
06:19Where has this excess amount come from?
06:24We find that the developed world today has contributed more than 80% of it.
06:32In that sense, in the aggregated sense, we might even say that the climate crisis is actually a crisis created solely by the north.
06:40I am talking of the global north which includes all developed nations which are also the most emitting nations.
06:47Now you include China as well in that since the last 10-15 years.
06:54So at the level of the individual, the rich ones are responsible.
06:58At the level of countries, the global north is responsible.
07:02At the level of corporations, there are just 100 companies.
07:09Of the millions of organizations, companies, body corporates existing in the world today, there are just 100 that are responsible for 70% of the world's carbon emissions.
07:24Most of these companies are in the field of energy or agriculture.
07:32These are the two most carbon-intensive sectors.
07:35How can we talk about net zero emissions then?
07:39That's a mirage.
07:42That's something we have given ourselves to remain entertained, remain foolishly hopeful.
07:51That's not going to happen.
07:52Forget about net zero.
07:54Net zero is a far cry.
07:57We wanted 44% reduction by 2030.
08:01We have achieved 0% reduction.
08:04Our emissions this particular year, 2025, are exactly the same as they were at the beginning of the duration of the Paris Agreement.
08:1658 gigatons this year as well.
08:19We have achieved zero reduction.
08:22We are royally on our way to achieve more than 3 degrees centigrade average global temperature hike.
08:32Net zero is something just to make headlines and to regale the coming generations.
08:43That's all.
08:44And that brings me to the next level of climate injustice, which is intergenerational.
08:56We did it, but they will suffer, the coming generations.
09:01We did it, but they will suffer.
09:03So we talked of it at the level of the individual, at the level of nation, at the level of corporation.
09:08Now it's also at the level of generation.
09:13The ones who were most responsible for it are either gone or will be dead by the time the consequences of the calamity strike with their full force.
09:28And the ones who will bear the brunt are the generations who have not done anything or much to deserve the punishment.
09:38But they will be punished.
09:40The ones who have just been born, the ones who are yet to be born, they are the ones who will receive the maximum punishment and this is climate injustice.
09:49Then another level of injustice, here talking till now, only of the human species.
09:59Apart from this particular species of ours, all the billions of species that exist or existed have done nothing to contribute to carbon emissions.
10:17Nothing at all.
10:20But they are the ones who will pay, not only with their lives, with their pleasure, with their normal lifespan, but with their very existence.
10:38It is because of the adverse climate changes that several species are disappearing every day.
10:48Do you understand?
10:49There is a natural rate of extinction of species.
10:53That is estimated to be 5 to 20 species per day.
11:00But what we have today is 100 or more species getting extinct per day.
11:07This is way beyond the natural rate.
11:09And this is coming from the climate crisis.
11:12What have those species done to get extinct?
11:15Nothing.
11:16Let this sink in.
11:19This is the great tragic irony of the climate situation.
11:27The ones who are disappearing forever, do not even know why they are going extinct.
11:34We, this one, just one species out of the billions that inhabit this planet, this one species is responsible for mass obliteration.
11:45Do we see?
11:49So, that angers me, before it makes me sad.
11:59It's not just about the planet as a whole.
12:03When you look at the separate constituents, you say this is just not done, not fair.
12:12Bangladesh, how much does Bangladesh emit on a per capita basis?
12:19Up to 2 tons per capita per annum is within sustainable limits.
12:25The average Indian emits 1.9 tons per capita per annum.
12:30The average Bangladeshi emits even less.
12:32But Bangladesh is one of the countries that will partially disappear the fastest.
12:38It is already losing land.
12:41And because it is very well known that this is happening.
12:44You know the rich countries, they pledged an amount of $100 billion per year.
12:50They said we will contribute this much as a form of reparation.
12:54We understand we did it.
12:56So, this fund will be for those who will suffer the most.
13:00How much have they contributed?
13:02Please guess, nothing at all.
13:05Nothing at all.
13:07And when we talk about India specifically, this question has been raised several times.
13:13Should India cut down on its development at the cost of climate?
13:18And what the climate goals and climate targets that have been set by the global north after they have done the destruction already?
13:28See, it's not about what they have done in the past.
13:34Emissions do not respect histories or national boundaries.
13:39Wherever the molecule comes from, the US or India or China or Ethiopia, it doesn't matter.
13:47That molecule affects the entire planet.
13:51But it affects some people more and some communities and some lands more.
13:55And those will be affected the more they belong to places like India.
13:58Yeah.
13:59So, if India chooses to participate in blind emissions, then India is doing itself a disservice.
14:10We of all people should be very eager to have a sustainable model of development.
14:20It does not take much time to move from a small player when it comes to emissions to become a gigantic one.
14:30China is a case study.
14:33Today, China emits more than the US does.
14:38Purely by the dint of its population size.
14:42Same applies to India.
14:43Even if per capita emissions remain low, yet we will probably become the second highest emitter in the world.
14:52And who will suffer?
14:53We will suffer.
14:54So, we should be the last ones to be running this rat race.
14:59In fact, what is it that we must do?
15:03We have to stop supporting those who have any kind of adverse climate mindset.
15:16And how can we do that?
15:20By using whatever political and economic heft we have.
15:26You know what Trump does in India is going to affect India the most.
15:31America will emit India will suffer.
15:34Right?
15:35And it's not that you are a totally inconsequential player now.
15:40Use whatever might you have.
15:43And that fellow there is saying, I'll make America great again by digging up all the gas and oil and exporting it.
15:52And he is disallowing any kind of environmental or climate discourse.
15:58He is withdrawing subsidies.
16:00He is saying, no, no, no.
16:02The word climate does not exist at all.
16:05You have to realize that that kind of policy is totally anti-India.
16:09What will you do if a nation, big or small, has anti-India policies?
16:15You will adjust your policies accordingly.
16:18Instead, we are behaving in the same way as America does.
16:22America is pretending that climate does not exist and India too is deleting the topic of environment and the problem of climate from its own textbooks meant for kids.
16:38We too are turning a blind eye.
16:42Probably America can afford that.
16:44We cannot.
16:46We are the ones who are terribly going to suffer.
16:49Think of the monsoons.
16:51Yeah.
16:52We rely on a particular temperature differential at a particular time of the year for the rains to happen in a way that will sustain crops and therefore our large population.
17:04Otherwise, there is no food security.
17:06We are currently experiencing in May and June.
17:07You think of it.
17:08January to April, we had four of the warmest months in the last 125 years.
17:18And then the fifth one was the wettest month.
17:22From warmest to wettest, in a snap.
17:27That's what is happening.
17:28And it's not going to continue like this.
17:31The annual precipitation that we were to have, we have lost a big chunk of it in May and the first week of June.
17:38We are in for horrid and hot times ahead.
17:42Think of what that means for the farmer.
17:4550% of our population is still directly or indirectly dependent on agriculture.
17:50Think of what that means for food security.
17:53And think of what kind of mass displacement.
17:57What can bring?
17:58Yes.
17:59And we don't pay heat to such things because again, I really want to come to this point.
18:10When we talk about climate change on global level, when we are discussing global north and global south, and we are talking in big numbers and what they might have done and who might have suffered because of that.
18:26We don't see, we mostly ignore the consequential impacts that people suffer in their daily lives.
18:39For example, when we talk about landfills in Delhi NCR region, we talk about Ghazipur, we talk about Okhla and a report says that the methane fires that happen.
18:53Sometimes the level of pollution is as comparable to like igniting the release of same level of CH4 methane from 24 million cars simultaneously running.
19:10We are not experiencing, I don't understand the kind of dread we should experience in that case.
19:20We are turning numb towards this tragedy.
19:23A lot of people who live there in those areas, they are suffering from deadly diseases, their quality of life, no questions have been raised about that.
19:35What do you have to say about it?
19:36Thankfully, we are a democracy.
19:41That means the majority has a say.
19:44And it's the majority that's going to suffer because of climate change.
19:49What should be the natural corollary of this?
19:53If the majority has a say and the majority is what is going to suffer, then the majority should vote in a government that pays heat to the climate.
20:07That's it. Simple.
20:10One fellow is emitting so much and 20 others are suffering because of that.
20:16What should those 20 do?
20:18They should bring in a government that taxes this person for his carbon emissions.
20:23It's as simple as that.
20:25But for that, those 20 must have some sense.
20:29If those 20 remain drowned in entertainment like IPL or religious extremism or all kinds of frivolous distractions,
20:39then they will not even understand who is their real exploiter.
20:43And then they will not vote in the right way.
20:45Otherwise, it should be very easy.
20:48When we say it is just the 1% or 5% population of the world that's responsible for the tragedy that's befallen us,
20:58then in some way, it should be good news.
21:01If these 95% get together, raise their voice, realize their perilous condition,
21:08then things will change.
21:10But instead, what we find is that these 95% idolize those 5%.
21:17The richest 1%, 5% are the biggest culprits, right?
21:22And if you ask someone among the 95%, they will say we want to become like the ones who emit so much.
21:30And that's where the problem lies.
21:32We are looking up to them for himself.
21:34We are worshipping our exploiters.
21:39And how do we, for example, a common man, and again power dynamics come into play.
21:45We think beforehand that we won't be able to do it.
21:50Just like you said, 95% of the population, if they just join hands and they raise their voice
21:56and they start fighting and start asking for their rights and starts questioning their exploitation,
22:03they are exploiters, but indifferently to what we have imagined.
22:09They worship them, just like you said.
22:12So, the most powerful people in the world are those small percentage, that small chunk.
22:20And people just don't want to do anything against them.
22:23All their power is limited to what they can do outside of you.
22:34They can create certain situations.
22:37They control all the media.
22:39So, they can beam in something through your TV sets.
22:43That's the maximum they can do, right?
22:47Your interiors are your own sovereign place.
22:51No power of the world, irrespective of how much political clout or economic prowess it has,
22:59has any indisputable or natural right to your inner space that you control.
23:09They can try to build a narrative, but whether or not you accept that narrative is a choice that you have.
23:17But what choice do the people of Gazipur Landfill have?
23:21They are living in those conditions.
23:23Have they voted for the right candidates?
23:25Probably some of them.
23:27Not some of them. That's what I said.
23:29These people have to, there has to be a general awakening.
23:33You know, we suffer, yes.
23:37But we do not realize where really the suffering is coming from.
23:41The good thing is, there is always a way out when it comes to suffering.
23:47And the way out is the way in.
23:53If you can see what you are doing wrong, there always is a beginning possible towards the end of your suffering.
24:05And we don't have an option anyway.
24:09What will you do?
24:11You look at the situation, yes.
24:13The 1% richest corporations, the celebrities, the politicians, the billionaires, the media moguls, they control everything.
24:25Yes, they do.
24:26But still, when it comes to voting, nobody can force you to vote in a particular way.
24:35And if you look at the biggest polluters of the world, they are all democracies.
24:40If you also look at the countries that are going to suffer the most, even they have democracies of varying kinds, in varying extents.
24:50But the people in general, to some extent or the other, do have a voice, do have a choice.
24:57Are we exercising that?
24:59And if we do not do that, then the rich have their own plans.
25:04They are saying, we will colonize Mars.
25:08Let this planet be exhumed, we are running away.
25:14Off we go and let this planet go to dogs, that's fine.
25:19We can see a possibility of that.
25:22That's inevitable, you see.
25:24If someone can manage a better life for himself elsewhere and has the resources to make it possible, why would he stay here?
25:35Do the Indian celebrities stay in India?
25:39The moment they gain enough money, they find a residence abroad.
25:44You keep worshipping them here, look at your cricketers.
25:47Somebody has a residence in London, somebody visits India only when particularly needed.
25:54Even look at your spiritual gurus.
25:57They all have bases outside of India.
26:03It's the poor, it's the voiceless that would be left behind to suffer and tragically die and suffer a lot before dying.
26:13We don't see this.
26:14And we worship exactly those who are bringing the suffering upon us.
26:21That's the central problem.
26:23Lack of awareness.
26:25Rather we are benefiting them in some way or the other.
26:28Obviously.
26:29When it comes to consumerism, a lot of things, even when we talk about the influencer culture, everything is…
26:38You made them influencers.
26:39They all are standing on your shoulders.
26:41How can there be a leader if you are not the follower?
26:44Can there be a leader if you are not the one following him?
26:49Can there be an influencer without that 5M, 10M, the number of followers or subscribers, figure written besides his or her name?
26:59Can there be a billionaire or an industrialist without an army of customers buying his shallow, trivial, nonsensical products?
27:13That he manages to just put in your mind through incessant advertisement?
27:23Do we control our mind?
27:26We are allowing somebody else to dictate our actions and this is how.
27:32They are commanding us.
27:35That's what the entire climate injustice is about.
27:40The poor are suffering.
27:41The voiceless are suffering.
27:43The next generations will suffer.
27:46The animal species are getting wiped off.
27:51And the ones who caused it…
27:53And the ones who caused this…
27:54Will run off to march maybe.
27:55They are not even acknowledging that climate crisis exists.
28:00They are in fact saying you multiply your numbers all the more so that the market for our products and services doesn't contract.
28:11Or is it the case that the mess has been created like this?
28:17Maybe I am just speculating what might be the reason behind this.
28:22That there is no way left.
28:24For example, if I would say a billionaire or a millionaire who somehow knows and somehow feels responsible.
28:35For example, if someone becomes maybe spiritually enlightened in that way.
28:42And some kind of conscience he might get.
28:47The mess that has been created around…
28:51Is it stopping him or her from acknowledging that this has happened and this has happened because of me?
28:59And what can they do if they can acknowledge this?
29:02They fully well understand that they have done this.
29:06If you are talking of the real culprits, they very well know how all this has happened.
29:12They know better than the common man what they have done.
29:16They know it and they want to perpetuate it.
29:21It's not that they are in the dark.
29:24It's not that their guilt is forcing them from taking corrective action.
29:29None of that.
29:30They know very well what is happening.
29:33The thing is, in absence of any spiritual centre or spiritual compass, all that drives you is your untamed greed.
29:50If I can have more, I will have more.
29:53That's it.
29:55And if the other person is ever so ready to get fooled, I will make a fool of him.
30:04You are talking of this billionaire.
30:06Where do his billions come from?
30:08They come from you and me.
30:10How does he manage to extract money from your pocket?
30:15By selling you something that you never need in the first place.
30:18How does he manage to make you feel that you need his products?
30:23By putting a bad philosophy of life in your mind.
30:27And all that is a big show being run by him.
30:31Please understand.
30:33The fellow parades his half a dozen or rather 1.2 dozen kids.
30:42Why?
30:44Because you become a bigger customer when you beget kids.
30:52So, he wants you to have lots of kids.
30:57You become a compulsive buyer once you have a full nest.
31:02You cannot say, I don't want to spend.
31:04You will have to spend.
31:05The kid is there.
31:07So, he is putting in a bad philosophy here.
31:10Your life is unfulfilled if you do not become a mother once, twice, five times.
31:18He is not just selling you a product.
31:20First of all, he has successfully sold you a philosophy.
31:23That philosophy is coming from him.
31:26Do you get this?
31:28When you manufacture a product, you also have to manufacture a buyer.
31:33Why do we become buyers?
31:37Most of the stuff that they are selling to us is stuff that you pay for very needlessly.
31:46It is stuff that has negative value actually in your life.
31:53It has no utility.
31:55It has negative utility, not even zero.
31:58But we keep on taking those things.
32:00What does the common man live for?
32:02When do you say a particular person is successful?
32:05When you find that person consuming more and more?
32:08Who told you all this?
32:10Who told you that your life is good if you are up on the curve of consumption?
32:17That fellow who offers you goods and services to consume, he is the one who put it inside you.
32:24And that's where we can apply the brakes.
32:29That's where I said our interior place should be our own fiefdom.
32:34We cannot allow him to rule here.
32:35I will decide what I need.
32:37Not the series of propaganda, your narrative, your erratisements.
32:42No, no, no.
32:43I will not allow that to influence me.
32:45Let me be sovereign.
32:47It is that independence, that sovereignty, that freedom that comes from what you can call as self-knowledge.
32:55Otherwise, you are a puppet.
32:57Is self-knowledge bad for business?
32:59Very bad for business.
33:01Very bad for bad business.
33:03Very good for good business.
33:06You see, how do you know?
33:08How do you know?
33:09How do you know something is worth the price you are paying for it?
33:14How do you know that particular piece of land is worth 2 crore rupees?
33:18How do you know?
33:20How do you know a particular configuration of a particular metal is worth rupees 10 lakhs?
33:28Please tell me.
33:29How do you know?
33:31This particular ring here costs 10 lakhs.
33:34How do you know it's worth 10 lakhs?
33:36Who told you?
33:37The markets have to.
33:38The markets have told you.
33:39Otherwise, there is no intrinsic value.
33:41Please see.
33:42And you are paying for it with your life and that hard earned money is going to someone
33:47who is continuously emitting carbon.
33:54Have you really enjoyed that last vacation?
33:56Please ask yourself honestly.
33:58No, you didn't.
33:59But you needed to tick that box.
34:01Who told you that you need to tick that box?
34:03Maybe the airlines?
34:07Maybe the hotel industry?
34:09Maybe the peers?
34:11Maybe all those who benefit from your money.
34:15They are the ones telling you to take that vacation.
34:18They are the ones selling you those business.
34:20They are the ones hiring the celebrities to pose on those beaches, in those bikinis so that you are lured.
34:28Oh, I too want to go there.
34:30They are running away with the money you earn with sweat and blood and toil.
34:36And not only do they run away with your money, they use your money against you.
34:41That's what climate injustice is about.
34:44Otherwise, these are not productive people.
34:47We are talking of the politicians.
34:49We are talking of the richest people.
34:52Are they really creative people?
34:54Are they really productive people?
34:55No, no, no, no, no.
34:57They are not productive.
34:59They know how to loot.
35:00They don't create value.
35:02They create illusions.
35:04They create very, very mesmerizing and tempting, lucrative illusions.
35:12And you buy into those illusions.
35:15And you pay for those illusions.
35:17And then they misutilize your money to exploit you.
35:25A lot of it boils down to money also.
35:29If we look at money or the resources we have, markets won't work.
35:37For example, if there is more self-knowledge, the awareness is there.
35:42We won't think much about ambition or the development.
35:47Or what would we say that our practical life, would it suffer in some way?
35:54Bad life would suffer.
35:56Good life would be promoted.
35:58Just as we put excessive value on worthless things.
36:03The counterpart is that you do not value worthy things.
36:09So the right kind of economy is being suppressed.
36:14What is the right kind of economy?
36:16Think of it.
36:17Things that really add value to your life.
36:20You are not valuing them.
36:21You are not prepared to pay for them.
36:23You don't want to work for those things.
36:25If I can get one example.
36:27What is it that you love to do?
36:29I love reading.
36:30I love writing.
36:31Don't you want places?
36:34Beautiful places.
36:35I created one.
36:36Don't you want to spread the message?
36:39Yeah.
36:40That's the economy we are talking of.
36:42That's the economy we need.
36:44Where the right things are valued highly.
36:47Let there be a big price tag.
36:49It's worth it.
36:50I don't want to pay for that ring.
36:53I don't want to pay to the Pandit for some silly astro thing.
36:58I don't want to pay for that luxury vehicle.
37:04Because I know who I am.
37:05So I also know what I need.
37:07Not that I don't want to have a vehicle.
37:10But I have an inner sense of value.
37:13I know when to start and I also know when to stop.
37:17Do you get this?
37:19Don't you love places that offer solitude?
37:21Yeah.
37:22Yeah.
37:23Would you want to pay for them?
37:24But how will you pay for them if you have been squandering your money at all the worthless places?
37:31All the stupidities are commanding a fat price.
37:36And all that is valuable in life is going unappreciated.
37:42That's climate injustice.
37:46We have broadened the horizons.
37:49I also want to ask, it's not like we don't have sane voices out there.
37:55There are sane voices who speak about such things.
37:59They talk about a lot of things.
38:01Maybe spiritual wisdom, self-knowledge and things.
38:04But when it particularly comes down to climate.
38:08And climate injustice, which I think is a far Christ even now.
38:14Why are spiritual leaders speaking about it more openly?
38:19What is the harm?
38:22They are the beneficiaries of all the nonsense.
38:24Where do they get their donations from?
38:27Most of them are funded by industrialists and politicians.
38:34Why will the spiritual leaders speak against their puppeteers?
38:42Don't you know of the gurus?
38:43They are all heavily funded political projects mostly.
38:51Why will they speak against their own masters?
38:56And on this note, one last question.
39:00How do you imagine it, a spiritually sane climate just world?
39:07What is your definition and how do you see it?
39:10There can be no definition as such.
39:12It is something so free.
39:15It takes its own course.
39:17It takes its own independent form.
39:21If we try to premeditate it, we are killing it.
39:25All that we can do is illuminate the people.
39:30And then leave it to them.
39:32Just leave it to them.
39:34You must understand who you are and therefore what you need.
39:37The climate crisis is itself a product of internal human ignorance.
39:43It comes, we say, from emissions.
39:47But why do emissions happen in the first place?
39:50Because we burn something.
39:5375% of emissions are coming from our energy needs.
39:57But why do you need energy in the first place?
40:00Because you want to use energy to pursue your desires.
40:03But are your desires worth it in the first place?
40:06How do you determine the worthiness of your desires?
40:08Are your desires really fulfilling you even if the desires are fulfilled?
40:12No, they are not.
40:13So for the sake of these worthless desires, you are destroying the planet.
40:18That's what the climate crisis is.
40:21We need people who have some honesty, some courage to look at themselves in the mirror.
40:29And I say, why am I wasting my life running after nonsense?
40:34Why am I following the herd?
40:35We need radical honesty with ourselves.
40:39Basic honesty.
40:41Basic honesty.
40:43That can turn radical, definitely.
40:45Thank you so much, Ajare Prashant.
40:47We touched a major issue, a climate injustice, which we don't talk about much.
40:52And I think it is one of the major things, a very delicate thing, but very important also, how the relation between consumerism and climate injustice, it came into play.
41:10And thank you so much for clearing a lot of my doubts.
41:14And I think a lot of people who are watching this, they would gain something from this discussion.
41:19Thank you so much once again, and thank you to our audience who have been with us all through this episode.
41:25We will meet next time with more interesting and enlightening topics.
41:30And until next time, goodbye.
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