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00:00:00Talent is the ability to hit a target no one else can.

00:00:21Genius can hit a target no one else can see.

00:00:24And if we say in the early 21st century, what is the genius target for us?

00:00:30For our time and place.

00:00:32And I would put forward that it's the ability to stop our self-destructive behaviors and neutralize aging.

00:00:43You must have heard of the curious case of Benjamin Button, a story where a man ages in reverse.

00:00:50One man wants to achieve that feat.

00:00:53His name is Brian Johnson.

00:00:55Brian Johnson is determined to live forever or die trying.

00:00:59And is putting his vast fortune and own body on the line to achieve it.

00:01:05As a species, we accept our inevitable decay, decline and death.

00:01:12I want to argue that the opposite should be true.

00:01:15I walked into this because I was marching into an early grave.

00:01:22And now I've built an algorithm that takes better care of me than I can myself.

00:01:27I think this is the first time in the history of the human race that it is not known how long and how well I can live.

00:01:36Three, two, one, action.

00:01:42This is the man spending millions to become 18 years old once again, Brian Johnson.

00:01:47My name is Brian Johnson.

00:01:49I've been spending millions of dollars creating an anti-aging protocol.

00:01:52Two dozen supplements and medicines.

00:01:54Exercise an hour a day plus high intensity three times a week.

00:01:56This 45-year-old millionaire has reversed his age by five years.

00:02:01His doctors claim he has the heart of a 37-year-old.

00:02:04Using his life as a science experiment to see just how long he can live.

00:02:09A.K.A. Project Blueprint.

00:02:12Hi, everyone.

00:02:12The past three years, we've been trying to master the basics.

00:02:14Sleep, diet, exercise.

00:02:16Today, we're doing the first next level therapy.

00:02:19Gene therapy.

00:02:20Oh, shut up, Brian.

00:02:22Fucking Brian.

00:02:23Anything taken to an extreme can potentially be harmful to the body.

00:02:27I don't think I particularly want 33,000 images of my bowels.

00:02:30You've got to have a bit of fun in your life.

00:02:31Where do you find the fun?

00:02:32When do you go raging?

00:02:33Do we really believe that he went from being old to young?

00:02:37I don't.

00:02:38If I had $400 million, I wouldn't be doing what you're doing.

00:02:41This is not an accessible method of reversing the effects of aging.

00:02:45This guy's in his own fucking world.

00:02:47It's not really reality.

00:02:50If you look at all the discussions about me, many times people will say,

00:02:53this is a rich person trying to live forever.

00:02:56Is it going to be so awesome when they get hit by a bus?

00:02:58Lol.

00:02:59Because these are really hard ideas to get your head around.

00:03:02And so to me, the only relevant thought experiment that each of us can do

00:03:06is do we want to live tomorrow?

00:03:09Most of us are going to say yes.

00:03:12If we feel healthy and well, there's always something to do tomorrow.

00:03:16And so I want people to embrace that day to day

00:03:21until eventually we say, don't die.

00:03:54This is the gym, and it's my happy place.

00:04:00Every morning I come in here and I exercise for roughly an hour.

00:04:04I do about a 35 exercise circuit.

00:04:09Everything we do, we measure it.

00:04:12So we're able to see in a closed-loop way, is it working or is it not?

00:04:18What are you finding?

00:04:19So I had a whole-body MRI recently,

00:04:21and I'm in the 99th percentile for optimal for both muscle and fat across my entire body.

00:04:29Have you ever been this in shape before?

00:04:31No, never in my life.

00:04:35It feels good.

00:04:40Hey, Ollie.

00:04:42Hi.

00:04:44Ollie, we'll do the blood draw real quick.

00:04:47Let's do it.

00:04:48Dr. Oliver Zollman and I were connected by a friend.

00:04:54Oliver had spent his entire adult life scouring the literature on anti-aging science.

00:04:59When Brian first reached out, he seemed a bit lost.

00:05:05Whatever he was doing didn't really seem like it was working optimally for him.

00:05:11So I showed him my longevity level 1, 2, 3 protocol.

00:05:15Level 1 is doing the basic stuff, diet, exercise,

00:05:18and then each layer you go up, it gets more sophisticated.

00:05:23His approach was, in order to understand human aging,

00:05:27you needed to look at the organ level

00:05:29because the heart is going to age differently than the lungs

00:05:32and the lungs differently than the kidney.

00:05:35Previously, I would use my mind to decide what to eat.

00:05:38So at the grocery store, walking down the aisles

00:05:40and looking at this thing and that thing and put it in the cart,

00:05:43Zollman flipped that on its head and said,

00:05:45what if I asked my organs to speak for themselves?

00:05:48What if the heart and the liver and the lungs

00:05:50could actually speak what they need?

00:05:53And then my responsibility is to do exactly what the body tells me to do.

00:05:58Blueprint is Brian doing this level 1, 2, 3 protocol

00:06:01to the most that it's ever been done.

00:06:04He's been the best guinea pig anyone can ask for.

00:06:09It's probably over 100 different things I do any given day

00:06:13that the body has asked for to be in its ideal state.

00:06:17And that begins with, in the morning I wake up,

00:06:19I turn a specific light on in my bathroom

00:06:22that gives me sun-like exposure.

00:06:24I take three pills.

00:06:25I do my body temperature with an inner ear measurement.

00:06:28Go downstairs, start HRV therapy.

00:06:31So I put a little electrode here in my ear

00:06:33and it stimulates my autonomic nervous system

00:06:35trying to make my body more parasynthetic and more chill.

00:06:39I take 54 pills with a concoction that I call the Green Giant.

00:06:45I put a cap on my head for hair growth.

00:06:48It has 312 laser diodes.

00:06:51Then I work out for an hour, come in,

00:06:52eat a few pounds of vegetables.

00:06:54I do some high-frequency electromagnetic stimulation on my abdomen.

00:06:57I do 12 minutes of near and red light therapy to accelerate healing.

00:07:02I do audio therapy for my hearing regeneration.

00:07:06I have my last meals to eat before 11 a.m., 34 more pills to take.

00:07:11There's protocols throughout the day here and there.

00:07:14And then my nighttime routine.

00:07:16By doing Blueprint, one of the key objectives

00:07:20is to achieve the lowest possible biological age.

00:07:25So just like a tree has rings,

00:07:27we all have a signature inside of our body of our age.

00:07:31After doing Blueprint now for two years,

00:07:34I've reversed my biological age 5.1 years.

00:07:38I have 50 perfect biomarkers.

00:07:41I have 100 biomarkers where I'm less than my chronological age.

00:07:44And my speed of aging is 0.69,

00:07:48which means for every 12 months, I age 8 months.

00:07:53In terms of how far this goes, it's open-ended.

00:07:57We have no idea.

00:07:59But I want to take my speed of aging to the lowest possible number.

00:08:10Step back a little bit.

00:08:13Yeah.

00:08:14And then a little bit closer to the bed.

00:08:17Yeah.

00:08:18Great.

00:08:20And then you can just like literally just rattle everything off.

00:08:23Okay.

00:08:23So today is a very exciting day for me

00:08:25because for the very first time ever,

00:08:27after tracking my sleep for four years,

00:08:30I achieved my first perfect month.

00:08:33So I have an average of 100% sleep performance for 30 days.

00:08:38I go to bed at 8.30 p.m.

00:08:40I've averaged eight hours and 34 minutes of sleep every night.

00:08:44The body loves routine.

00:08:46So go to bed at the exact same time every night, no excuses.

00:08:49Sleep is not something that can be dismissed.

00:08:52So hopefully these tips help you,

00:08:54that you can start inching towards better sleep.

00:08:56It will change everything in your life.

00:09:00Wonderful.

00:09:01Okay.

00:09:01Good.

00:09:02Kate, what's your role on this?

00:09:04I don't even know how to describe it.

00:09:08Take a stab.

00:09:09Um, I just am, I am here on the mission

00:09:15trying to make whatever needs to happen happen

00:09:17in order to get there.

00:09:19That's my role.

00:09:21Kate has been with me from the very beginning

00:09:22of Blueprint, yeah.

00:09:26How do you feel?

00:09:26Are you converted?

00:09:27To be honest, when I first started,

00:09:29I was eating McDonald's.

00:09:31Philosophically converted.

00:09:34When I first met Brian,

00:09:36it was not healthy.

00:09:38And we started talking about

00:09:40the philosophy of Blueprint.

00:09:42And all of a sudden I was like,

00:09:43okay, when I laugh about not being fit

00:09:47and not being able to exercise

00:09:49and that kind of stuff,

00:09:50I'm kind of laughing in the face of my future self.

00:09:53Like, I don't want to be that person,

00:09:55you know, when I'm 60

00:09:56and I'm unable to run around or, yeah.

00:10:00So it was a huge wake-up call for me.

00:10:04Now, here I am,

00:10:05like, the other person behind this mission.

00:10:08I mean, like, you could beef it up by saying,

00:10:11like, every morning I do the same four-hour routine

00:10:14and this is what starts it off.

00:10:16How's it going?

00:10:17When we first started working together,

00:10:19Brian asked me to develop

00:10:21the communication side of things.

00:10:24His big ambition

00:10:25was to get Blueprint out to the people

00:10:28so that we can all learn

00:10:29from what Blueprint is up to.

00:10:32But it was like hitting our head against the wall

00:10:35for a little while

00:10:35because it was just

00:10:36a bit of an empty void on the Internet.

00:10:39And then one day,

00:10:40I had this idea.

00:10:43What if we publish

00:10:45all of his biometric data online

00:10:47and made it a thing

00:10:49that people could witness and watch?

00:10:51The protocols, the measurements,

00:10:52the recipes, the supplements,

00:10:54we published it all on my website.

00:10:56And this journalist I knew, Ashley Vance,

00:10:58saw this and expressed interest

00:11:00in doing a profile on Blueprint.

00:11:01Brian put all of his stuff online.

00:11:05I was like, all right,

00:11:05this guy's somewhere between off

00:11:07and, like, very interesting.

00:11:10I went to visit him at his house

00:11:12with his own home laboratory

00:11:14and we just kind of, like, started talking.

00:11:16When doctors visit our clinic here,

00:11:19they get pretty excited

00:11:20because we have outfitted this

00:11:22so that we can be

00:11:23a medical-grade operation

00:11:26at every level.

00:11:28And I started just asking him questions.

00:11:30He's like, okay,

00:11:30I spent $2.5 million

00:11:32on all this stuff.

00:11:33And this was not

00:11:34a professional athlete

00:11:35who was spending

00:11:36this much money on his body.

00:11:38It was just this random tech guy

00:11:39who's just, you know,

00:11:41absolutely going further

00:11:42than what anyone else had done.

00:11:44And so that's when I really knew

00:11:45this actually was a story.

00:11:47I remember the day

00:11:49before the article came out,

00:11:51Kate and I were in my office

00:11:52and we both had this moment

00:11:56of crisis.

00:11:58like, oh, no,

00:12:00like, what have we done?

00:12:03One man,

00:12:04he spent $2 million

00:12:05to effectively reboot his body.

00:12:08Millionaire entrepreneur Brian Johnson.

00:12:10Brian Johnson.

00:12:11Brian Johnson.

00:12:12Brian Johnson is on a quest

00:12:13to live longer.

00:12:15All of a sudden,

00:12:16every spotlight was turned

00:12:17on Brian and the project

00:12:19and everything we worked on

00:12:21was under intense scrutiny.

00:12:22I think his rectum went viral,

00:12:24his rectal biological age.

00:12:27There was so much online

00:12:28video people were making

00:12:30and it's just kind of a blur.

00:12:32We were inundated with interest.

00:12:35Every single product

00:12:36that we published

00:12:37on the Blipper website

00:12:38was sold out within days.

00:12:41Nobody could get anything

00:12:42that we used.

00:12:43We couldn't either.

00:12:44We had suppliers calling us

00:12:45saying, what is going on?

00:12:47It also unlocked

00:12:49a colossal amount of hate.

00:12:51I actually would say

00:12:52he doesn't look that healthy.

00:12:53There's something super weird

00:12:54about looking young forever.

00:12:56Like, he takes, like,

00:12:5740 vitamins in the morning

00:12:58and 40 more in the afternoon.

00:13:01That seems tedious.

00:13:02I know.

00:13:03It's like, I'd rather just die sooner.

00:13:05And the irony of this specifically

00:13:06is you're seeking more time

00:13:08when you're not even living

00:13:10the time you've been given.

00:13:11Yes.

00:13:12Yeah.

00:13:12And I find this so vapid.

00:13:14I think for most people,

00:13:18the longevity field

00:13:19has always been looked at.

00:13:20Skeptically,

00:13:22it's just these rich

00:13:23Silicon Valley types

00:13:24chasing the fountain of youth.

00:13:26Jeff Bezos

00:13:27threw more money

00:13:28behind an obsession

00:13:29to become among the billionaires

00:13:32on a quest to defeat aging.

00:13:35Space, internet,

00:13:37and now live forever.

00:13:38Jeez.

00:13:39It's, like, seen as strange

00:13:41and fringe.

00:13:42It just so happens

00:13:45it is a real field of science.

00:13:48There are proper doctors

00:13:50and scientists

00:13:50that look at this.

00:13:53We're all so used to watching

00:13:55our friends and relatives

00:13:56and pets age and die.

00:13:57We think it's somehow natural

00:13:58and therefore somehow good.

00:14:00But I describe aging

00:14:01as our greatest humanitarian challenge.

00:14:05Aging causes cancer.

00:14:06Aging causes heart disease.

00:14:07Aging causes dementia.

00:14:09Aging causes stroke.

00:14:10It makes us more susceptible

00:14:11to infections.

00:14:11It makes us more frail.

00:14:13And actually,

00:14:13if you look at causes of death

00:14:15across the world today,

00:14:16the leading killers

00:14:17are these diseases

00:14:18like cancer and dementia

00:14:19and heart disease.

00:14:20I think the real promise

00:14:22of this field

00:14:22is that we have the opportunity

00:14:25by targeting the biology of aging

00:14:26to delay or prevent many,

00:14:29maybe all,

00:14:30of the functional declines

00:14:31and diseases

00:14:32that go along with old age.

00:14:33And that's huge.

00:14:35We're still, I would say,

00:14:36at an early stage,

00:14:37but there's already been

00:14:38a number of breakthroughs.

00:14:39There's already a number

00:14:40of interventions,

00:14:42including drugs and diets,

00:14:44that in animal models

00:14:46slow down the process of aging.

00:14:48We have robust evidence

00:14:50that we can extend

00:14:51the lifespan of a mouse.

00:14:52So if you're a mouse,

00:14:53we've got you covered.

00:14:54But what that also means

00:14:57is that we have

00:14:58a lot of things

00:15:00to test in humans.

00:15:01Testing Tuesday.

00:15:02Good morning.

00:15:03Let's get started.

00:15:04We are experimenting

00:15:05and we are trialing out,

00:15:08and I think

00:15:08we will have a revolution

00:15:10in the next coming 10 years

00:15:11of very specific interventions

00:15:14we can apply to humans

00:15:15to then lower the biological age.

00:15:19You could get within 4 millimeters.

00:15:22That's a lot better.

00:15:23I know.

00:15:23That's really great.

00:15:24I'm benefiting

00:15:25from decades of progress

00:15:28that people have made

00:15:29in the world

00:15:29of anti-aging science.

00:15:31And the scientific interventions

00:15:33are moving forward very fast.

00:15:35And so it has

00:15:35a tangible sense of it's here.

00:15:38And I want people

00:15:39to know about it.

00:15:43I think we light them up.

00:15:45Good.

00:15:46I think a little more.

00:15:48Yeah.

00:15:49I think I just need

00:15:50a little bit of an angle

00:15:51with your whole legs

00:15:52and everything

00:15:53if you can.

00:15:54Yeah.

00:15:55So we're going to do another test.

00:15:59Wow.

00:16:00That's so striking.

00:16:02Yeah, hopefully it captures

00:16:03a new zeitgeist

00:16:04that we're after.

00:16:05Yeah, I think

00:16:06everything looks good.

00:16:08I'll just go

00:16:08to different heights.

00:16:11Chin up a little bit.

00:16:13Yeah.

00:16:15My poor son.

00:16:16He comes home

00:16:17and he never knows

00:16:17what's going to be

00:16:18happening here.

00:16:20That's great.

00:16:22You ready?

00:16:24Yeah, I'm ready.

00:16:30Ah!

00:16:31How's Brian as a dad?

00:16:33He's a pretty good dad.

00:16:34Yeah.

00:16:35When his mother and I split,

00:16:37he was with her

00:16:38for the past couple years.

00:16:40And then he decided

00:16:41to move across the country

00:16:43and live with me

00:16:44for his senior year.

00:16:45Ah, good job.

00:16:47Tom was found a stride.

00:16:48He's been smoking me.

00:16:50What's your take

00:16:50on Blueprint?

00:16:52When the article came out,

00:16:53everyone's like,

00:16:53oh, isn't that your dad?

00:16:55So I got like

00:16:56so many texts

00:16:57from friends

00:16:57and people at school

00:16:58asking me all about it.

00:17:01Worth it.

00:17:02Did people think

00:17:02it was cool

00:17:03or did they think

00:17:03you guys were weirdos?

00:17:05Both.

00:17:06Yeah.

00:17:07Even though I've been

00:17:08at my school

00:17:09for months now,

00:17:10people are still

00:17:10asking me questions

00:17:11every day about it.

00:17:12Oh, no!

00:17:15You played so well.

00:17:16That was a good rally.

00:17:17That was good.

00:17:18I've been around Brian

00:17:20since before Talmadge was here.

00:17:22And I remember thinking,

00:17:23like, how is Brian

00:17:24going to get used

00:17:24to having Talmadge

00:17:25around, like,

00:17:25another human being

00:17:26in his space

00:17:27every single day

00:17:27because he's such

00:17:28a private,

00:17:29introverted individual.

00:17:31But now it's like

00:17:32he's completely

00:17:33restructured his life

00:17:34around Talmadge being here.

00:17:40Today is an exciting day

00:17:41because

00:17:41how many schools

00:17:42did you apply to?

00:17:44Fifteen.

00:17:45How many schools

00:17:46have rendered

00:17:46their decisions?

00:17:48Twelve.

00:17:49Not clean today.

00:17:50Yeah.

00:17:51So these are...

00:17:51So this is the last...

00:17:52Now you're going to have

00:17:53all the information

00:17:54you need to make

00:17:55a decision

00:17:55on what college

00:17:57you're going to go to.

00:17:59And then you're going

00:17:59to leave me

00:18:00in five months.

00:18:05Yes.

00:18:06I only have

00:18:08150 days left

00:18:10with Talmadge,

00:18:11which makes me

00:18:12incredibly sad.

00:18:15We should get going.

00:18:17We don't really.

00:18:18There is just

00:18:19never enough time.

00:18:21Hey, welcome.

00:18:22Nice to meet you.

00:18:23Thank you so much

00:18:24for opening your house

00:18:25and showing us everything.

00:18:26Next challenge.

00:18:27Yep, let's go.

00:18:28You're vegan.

00:18:29Yeah, I'm vegan

00:18:30by choice.

00:18:31Talmadge and I eat

00:18:31the exact same thing

00:18:32every day, every day.

00:18:34And then I've been

00:18:34working on the splits,

00:18:35so we'll go do the splits

00:18:36as we eat breakfast.

00:18:37Okay.

00:18:38I think if you really

00:18:39want to live

00:18:40the Brian Johnson

00:18:41lifestyle,

00:18:42the commitment to that

00:18:43is obscene.

00:18:44I do 2,000 calories a day.

00:18:46Are you ever hungry?

00:18:47I'm pretty hungry.

00:18:48Okay.

00:18:49The saddest part

00:18:50of my day

00:18:50is the last bite.

00:18:51Your entire day

00:18:53revolves around

00:18:54this quite solitary,

00:18:56very rigid

00:18:57kind of lifestyle.

00:18:58Wait, wait, wait,

00:18:59Brian, Brian, Brian.

00:19:00You can't see sunlight.

00:19:02Did you go in the sun?

00:19:03The UV index

00:19:04is well below

00:19:05dangerous levels,

00:19:06so we're good to go.

00:19:07It seems sort of

00:19:08like depressing

00:19:09and like what kind

00:19:10of life are you leading

00:19:11if you're just

00:19:11giving yourself up

00:19:12to this.

00:19:15You know,

00:19:15it's interesting

00:19:16because obviously

00:19:17you have like

00:19:17this extra level

00:19:18of discipline,

00:19:20but we know,

00:19:20for instance,

00:19:21about cigarettes

00:19:22that people

00:19:23who smoke a lot,

00:19:24like if they smoke

00:19:25three packs a day,

00:19:27on average,

00:19:27you'll live

00:19:2811 years less

00:19:29than people

00:19:29who don't smoke.

00:19:30So what you're saying

00:19:32is almost like

00:19:32an advanced version.

00:19:33Like if I cut out smoking,

00:19:35I'll live 11 years

00:19:36more than average.

00:19:36If I cut out drinking,

00:19:38I'll live five years

00:19:39more than average

00:19:39and on and on.

00:19:40And yet people know

00:19:41this about smoking

00:19:42and they still smoke.

00:19:44Yeah.

00:19:44I mean,

00:19:44you're exactly right.

00:19:46Our minds,

00:19:47which we think

00:19:48are our primary tool

00:19:50of problem solving,

00:19:52is actually

00:19:53the source

00:19:54of our self-destructive behaviors.

00:19:57So I would argue

00:19:59the mind is dead.

00:20:01What the f**k?

00:20:02Sorry.

00:20:03The mind is dead

00:20:04and the goal

00:20:05is to give

00:20:05complete control

00:20:06of your well-being

00:20:07over to an algorithm?

00:20:08You know who says

00:20:08stuff like that?

00:20:09Algorithms.

00:20:11The first reaction

00:20:11most people have

00:20:12is panic.

00:20:13It's like,

00:20:13well,

00:20:14my free will

00:20:14is the only reason

00:20:15I exist

00:20:16and if I can't eat

00:20:17what I want to eat,

00:20:17then I have no reason

00:20:18to exist.

00:20:19Yeah,

00:20:19it tastes like nutrition.

00:20:21That's just

00:20:22a knee-jerk reaction.

00:20:23It's just the mind

00:20:24panicking

00:20:25because it feels

00:20:25like its authority

00:20:26is in question.

00:20:27Ready?

00:20:28Ready.

00:20:29The conscious mind

00:20:30is desperate

00:20:32to hold on to power.

00:20:34The catch is

00:20:35we can't trust our minds

00:20:37because the way

00:20:38we've structured society

00:20:39right now

00:20:40is insane.

00:20:42Every day

00:20:43we eat millions

00:20:44of burgers,

00:20:45pizzas and french fries.

00:20:46Now scientists say

00:20:47we may not only

00:20:48be feeding ourselves,

00:20:50we may be feeding

00:20:50an addiction.

00:20:51We expect people

00:20:54on their way

00:20:55to work

00:20:55to pass

00:20:5620 fast food places,

00:20:5820 places

00:20:59selling sugary drinks.

00:21:01We ask them

00:21:01to navigate

00:21:02the addictiveness

00:21:03of social media,

00:21:04the world's

00:21:04most powerful algorithms,

00:21:06trying to get them

00:21:06to spend

00:21:07every waking second

00:21:08on the algorithm.

00:21:08What?

00:21:09Navigate alcohol

00:21:10and the smoking

00:21:11and binge watching

00:21:12and porn

00:21:13and every other

00:21:14form of addiction.

00:21:15And then we look

00:21:16at the individual

00:21:16and say,

00:21:17why aren't we happier?

00:21:18We have lost touch

00:21:22with basic self-care.

00:21:24We're inebriated.

00:21:25We can't see straight.

00:21:28Even though we know

00:21:30that eating the wrong

00:21:31kinds of foods

00:21:32or drinking

00:21:32or smoking

00:21:33or not prioritizing sleep

00:21:34accelerates aging,

00:21:35disability,

00:21:36even death,

00:21:37we can't stop.

00:21:41We're in a fight

00:21:42for our lives

00:21:43with ourselves.

00:21:48I have found

00:21:55more relief

00:21:56in demoting my mind

00:21:58and elevating my body

00:22:00than I have

00:22:00in my entire life.

00:22:03It feels so liberating

00:22:05to me

00:22:05because my entire life

00:22:08I was desperate

00:22:09to be free

00:22:10from myself.

00:22:11From when he was young,

00:22:20Brian was a problem solver.

00:22:25When he was in junior high,

00:22:27he knew that we didn't

00:22:28have very much money.

00:22:30And so there's times

00:22:32like when Brian

00:22:32would not eat lunch

00:22:34and contribute

00:22:35his lunch money.

00:22:36He was always coming up

00:22:38with something

00:22:38to help the family.

00:22:39I remember

00:22:41at some point

00:22:42Brian took a job

00:22:43at a sandwich shop.

00:22:45But that was short-lived.

00:22:47Brian said

00:22:47that he would never

00:22:48work for anybody

00:22:49ever again.

00:22:50You know,

00:22:51that kind of

00:22:51I'm going to do it

00:22:52by myself.

00:22:54Now, Brian,

00:22:55you're a lifelong entrepreneur.

00:22:56I am.

00:22:57What do you think

00:22:57you learned more from,

00:22:58the success

00:22:59or the failures?

00:22:59I never dwelled

00:23:00on failure.

00:23:01It didn't discourage me.

00:23:03In the beginning,

00:23:04my entrepreneurial adventures

00:23:05had little

00:23:07to zero success.

00:23:08I had a baby.

00:23:10I couldn't pay the bills.

00:23:12And so I took

00:23:12the only job

00:23:13I could find,

00:23:14which was selling

00:23:14credit card processing

00:23:15door-to-door.

00:23:17This experience

00:23:18got me interested

00:23:18in the world of payments.

00:23:20So I started poking around

00:23:21and I saw that PayPal

00:23:22was the dominant

00:23:23payment provider

00:23:24that had grown up

00:23:25through the internet.

00:23:26But then once eBay

00:23:27had acquired them,

00:23:28the development

00:23:29had discontinued.

00:23:31So I started Braintree

00:23:32with the idea

00:23:33of building

00:23:33modern software.

00:23:35He had this

00:23:36little tiny office.

00:23:37He was working

00:23:38on a card table.

00:23:39Please look at that.

00:23:40No, please do that.

00:23:41I don't know

00:23:42when he got a desk.

00:23:43I didn't take

00:23:44any outside capital.

00:23:45We were one

00:23:46of the fastest-growing

00:23:46companies in America

00:23:47twice.

00:23:48We acquired Venmo

00:23:49in year five

00:23:50and we became

00:23:51part of the global

00:23:52payments infrastructure.

00:23:54All right, everybody,

00:23:55let's give it up

00:23:56for Brian Johnson.

00:23:59It was so exciting.

00:24:02So I don't think

00:24:04that I realized

00:24:05that there was also

00:24:06that other side

00:24:07that was haunting him.

00:24:08I couldn't believe

00:24:09how much effort

00:24:10people put into

00:24:11building the company.

00:24:12It was amazing.

00:24:13Staying there all night,

00:24:14multiple nights in a row.

00:24:16When I was building

00:24:17Braintree Venmo,

00:24:18I was just grinding

00:24:19myself into the grave.

00:24:21It was a social norm

00:24:23that an entrepreneur

00:24:24would go days

00:24:25without sleeping

00:24:25and if you told

00:24:26that story,

00:24:27people would be in awe

00:24:28and there would be

00:24:29mythology about you,

00:24:30like, amazing

00:24:30that they did this.

00:24:31Now I view this

00:24:32as totally foolish.

00:24:34I would wake up

00:24:35the next day

00:24:36ornery,

00:24:36not feeling restored

00:24:37and then having

00:24:38to muster up

00:24:39the strength

00:24:39to walk in

00:24:40and be like,

00:24:41all right, everybody,

00:24:42we're going to work hard

00:24:43and we're going to solve

00:24:44all these burning problems

00:24:45that are going on.

00:24:46I was stressed

00:24:47out of my mind.

00:24:51Careful.

00:24:52Careful, careful.

00:24:53Careful.

00:24:54Bye.

00:24:55Careful.

00:24:55Bye.

00:24:56I'm turning this off.

00:24:57Coming home at night

00:24:58and dealing with three kids,

00:25:00I'd be exhausted

00:25:00and unpleasant.

00:25:03After a guaranteed fight

00:25:04with a partner,

00:25:06I would turn

00:25:07to unhealthy food

00:25:08as my soothing mechanism.

00:25:10Pure sugar.

00:25:11And of course,

00:25:12that just made things worse

00:25:13because my sleep

00:25:14would then suffer

00:25:15and it would just

00:25:15compound upon itself.

00:25:17I was miserable.

00:25:20I remember

00:25:21one particular visit.

00:25:23He didn't say too much,

00:25:24but at the end

00:25:27I could tell

00:25:29that it was a really

00:25:31difficult time for him

00:25:32and when he left,

00:25:33I cried.

00:25:37Had you ever seen him

00:25:38that way?

00:25:38Mm-mm.

00:25:40And I didn't know

00:25:41until then.

00:25:49Sundays were my hardest days

00:25:51because I would go to church

00:25:53because I would go to church

00:25:53and everything about being there

00:25:56made me dissolve.

00:25:59Growing up in the Mormon church,

00:26:01my entire family was there,

00:26:03my entire community was there,

00:26:04and it gave me

00:26:05all the answers to existence.

00:26:08It had stories about

00:26:09what existed before this life,

00:26:11why we are here on this earth,

00:26:13what's after life,

00:26:15but with the intensity

00:26:17of what life was delivering up,

00:26:18I felt like those answers,

00:26:21the only reality I knew

00:26:22didn't make sense anymore.

00:26:25I was kind of just dropped

00:26:26into this nothingness.

00:26:29I remember discussions with him

00:26:31where he was having

00:26:32real problems

00:26:33with the religion,

00:26:35not just like some kind of

00:26:37philosophical dispute.

00:26:40These were things

00:26:41that were so integrated into him,

00:26:43he was having physical symptoms.

00:26:46I would come home from church,

00:26:47and I would lay on my bed.

00:26:49My son at the time,

00:26:50he was seven years old,

00:26:51he would sense something was wrong

00:26:53and he came up

00:26:53and he would rub my back.

00:26:55And I was not able to even move.

00:27:00And the only thought

00:27:02that would soothe me

00:27:04was the idea of doing a deal

00:27:06with the devil

00:27:07and ceasing to exist.

00:27:10I didn't want an afterlife,

00:27:12I didn't want this life,

00:27:13I didn't want consciousness

00:27:15at all.

00:27:28What changed?

00:27:30My mind was like

00:27:32a vicious storm

00:27:33telling me

00:27:34to literally kill myself.

00:27:36And it became clear to me

00:27:37that the mind is not

00:27:39a reliable source

00:27:40of judgment.

00:27:42I needed a different

00:27:43way of being.

00:27:47It took me several years

00:27:49to rebuild myself.

00:27:51In that time,

00:27:52I sold my company,

00:27:53Braintree Venmo,

00:27:54I got a divorce,

00:27:55I left my born into religion,

00:27:58and ultimately,

00:27:59I found strength

00:28:00and liberation

00:28:00in doing Blueprint.

00:28:05When I give my body

00:28:06authority,

00:28:07it doesn't commit

00:28:08this self-destructive harm.

00:28:11My heart doesn't deliver

00:28:12these stinging insults.

00:28:14My lungs don't do it either,

00:28:15my kidney doesn't either.

00:28:17Removing my mind

00:28:18has been the best thing

00:28:20I've ever done in my life.

00:28:23But leaving the church

00:28:25fractured my life

00:28:27with my family.

00:28:28When Brian decided

00:28:31to leave the church,

00:28:33it was very heartbreaking

00:28:34for me.

00:28:36And I had to go

00:28:38through a process

00:28:39of thinking about

00:28:43the person he is

00:28:44and thinking about

00:28:46what he's doing

00:28:47with his life

00:28:47to find peace.

00:28:51Family is a fundamental

00:28:53teaching of Mormonism,

00:28:55and when my dad

00:28:56left the religion,

00:28:57it felt like

00:28:58it was violating

00:28:59that teaching

00:28:59and that we couldn't

00:29:00be a family anymore.

00:29:02So I definitely,

00:29:04as an eight-year-old,

00:29:06I viewed him

00:29:07as losing his path.

00:29:09Yeah, this book.

00:29:25Oh, man.

00:29:27I went to a church camp

00:29:29last summer

00:29:31before I came out here,

00:29:32and we had these booklets

00:29:35to take notes in,

00:29:36and while everyone else

00:29:38was taking notes

00:29:39about, you know,

00:29:40feeling the spirit,

00:29:41like, feeling good,

00:29:43the community,

00:29:44scripture,

00:29:45I was taking notes

00:29:46about trying to decipher everything.

00:29:51I felt like I was

00:29:52in this system,

00:29:53and I was trying

00:29:54to take it apart.

00:29:57Prior to moving

00:29:58to California,

00:29:59I was in Mormonism,

00:30:01but ever since I was young,

00:30:03it had never really

00:30:04been my thing,

00:30:05and no one in there

00:30:06saw me

00:30:08or saw the situation

00:30:09I was in.

00:30:09I couldn't talk to anyone.

00:30:11Over the years,

00:30:13me and my siblings

00:30:14would visit my dad

00:30:15periodically,

00:30:16and I started

00:30:17to let my dad in a bit.

00:30:19Talmadge started

00:30:20inquiring me

00:30:21of certain things,

00:30:21like, what about this,

00:30:22what about that,

00:30:23and we established

00:30:24this rapport

00:30:25with each other

00:30:25where we were able

00:30:26to have these

00:30:26honest dialogues.

00:30:27He just saw me

00:30:29so clearly.

00:30:30He knew the situation

00:30:31I was in.

00:30:32It was wild,

00:30:33because when I would talk,

00:30:34he would then articulate

00:30:35what I was thinking,

00:30:36and I slowly came

00:30:37to the realization

00:30:38that I wanted to get out

00:30:40of the religion

00:30:40in any way possible.

00:30:44After multiple attempts,

00:30:45I eventually managed

00:30:47to come out here

00:30:48and spend my last year

00:30:49of high school with him.

00:30:52A lot of my friends

00:30:53or people in general

00:30:54feel like their parents

00:30:56misunderstand them.

00:30:57And it takes some experience

00:31:00to unify them,

00:31:02which kind of makes sense

00:31:03with us.

00:31:05Took leaving the church,

00:31:07and now,

00:31:08with that shared experience,

00:31:10we can connect

00:31:11on so many deeper levels.

00:31:14Me and my dad,

00:31:16we have the best thing

00:31:17going on,

00:31:18but no one agreed with it.

00:31:23Like, I can't think

00:31:24of a single person

00:31:25who was like,

00:31:25you know what,

00:31:25Talmadge,

00:31:26you should do that.

00:31:26That'll be good for you.

00:31:27It was like

00:31:28coming to live with Satan.

00:31:37All right,

00:31:37can you do this?

00:31:38Let's do it.

00:31:39I increased my weight

00:31:41on my curls.

00:31:41I noticed.

00:31:45How's my hip on this, Dad?

00:31:47I see.

00:31:47I'm impressed you can do that

00:31:52after that many.

00:31:59That's art.

00:32:02I wish I had Talmadge's legs.

00:32:05He's kind of the perfect specimen.

00:32:07But you've heard that Brian wants to become Talmadge.

00:32:15Yeah, so, yeah,

00:32:17it's important not to over-rejuvenate

00:32:18because there could be side effects.

00:32:21Have you told that to Brian?

00:32:23Oh, yeah,

00:32:23we discussed this at length.

00:32:26I'm here.

00:32:28Up until this point,

00:32:29we've been doing things

00:32:30people are familiar with,

00:32:31diet and exercise and sleep,

00:32:33and it's almost like,

00:32:35okay,

00:32:36what's the next level?

00:32:39We looked at every health span

00:32:41and lifespan study

00:32:42that's ever been done,

00:32:43whether it be on humans or mice,

00:32:45and then rank them

00:32:47according to their efficacy,

00:32:48their ability to extend life.

00:32:51And now,

00:32:51we're trying to figure out

00:32:53how to do them.

00:32:54We started

00:32:55a human growth hormone.

00:32:58And so you stab this in the leg,

00:33:00and then you press it.

00:33:02Some of these therapies

00:33:03can be very dangerous.

00:33:04And then it's a little teeny needle.

00:33:06You see that.

00:33:07But we are on the side of,

00:33:10you know,

00:33:10extreme caution.

00:33:12We're doing high-frequency measurements

00:33:14across the whole body.

00:33:15So if we do start seeing side effects,

00:33:17we pick them up fast

00:33:18and try some other therapy.

00:33:21How many pills do you take a day?

00:33:23Today I'll be 130.

00:33:27What's yours?

00:33:2826.

00:33:30We know that it's unrealistic

00:33:32for a normal person

00:33:32to do this

00:33:33wildly rigorous routine.

00:33:36But I think

00:33:37what Brian is trying to do

00:33:40as the first prototype

00:33:41for Blueprint

00:33:42is do the absolute

00:33:44extreme thing.

00:33:47I absolutely acknowledge

00:33:48that not everyone

00:33:49has the time

00:33:50and the resources

00:33:51and the life circumstances

00:33:52that can do it.

00:33:53I'm trying to be

00:33:54on the absolute

00:33:55outermost edge

00:33:57of possibility

00:33:58for the science.

00:33:59I'm trying to show

00:34:00what's possible.

00:34:02It's pretty safe so far,

00:34:03and maybe it'll work,

00:34:05and maybe we can learn

00:34:07something from it

00:34:07and then take that out

00:34:09and everyone else

00:34:10can benefit sooner

00:34:11rather than later.

00:34:12today is rapamycin day.

00:34:19So rapamycin is a drug

00:34:20that people use

00:34:21to suppress the immune system

00:34:23when they're getting

00:34:23an organ transplant.

00:34:25So you get a new organ

00:34:25in the body,

00:34:26you don't want the immune system

00:34:27to reject it,

00:34:29and so you take rapamycin

00:34:30and it suppresses

00:34:31the immune system.

00:34:32I take this because

00:34:33there's potentially

00:34:35some longevity benefits.

00:34:36It's the kind of thing

00:34:37in the longevity community

00:34:38that people are excited about.

00:34:40Outside the longevity community,

00:34:41it's still kind of crazy.

00:34:43If you're like,

00:34:43yeah, I take

00:34:44an immune-suppressing drug,

00:34:46people are like,

00:34:47that's wacky.

00:34:47Why would you ever do that?

00:34:51Rapamycin was a drug

00:34:52that was first discovered

00:34:53in soil bacteria

00:34:54that were isolated

00:34:55on Easter Island.

00:34:56What happened in 2009

00:34:58was that a really

00:34:59rigorous study in mice

00:35:00found that it

00:35:01could extend lifespan.

00:35:03And it didn't just

00:35:03keep them alive for longer,

00:35:05it kept them healthier

00:35:05for longer as well.

00:35:07And this has been

00:35:07demonstrated in study

00:35:08after study

00:35:09in loads of different conditions

00:35:10in loads of different labs.

00:35:11The only thing we're lacking

00:35:12is human data.

00:35:15Honestly, I think rapamycin

00:35:17is probably still

00:35:17the most robust candidate

00:35:19for something

00:35:20that would affect

00:35:20human longevity,

00:35:21but they have to be

00:35:22used with caution

00:35:23because you can have

00:35:24bad things happen

00:35:25when you take too much.

00:35:261, 2, 3, 4, 5,

00:35:276, 7, 8, 9, 10,

00:35:2811, 12, 13.

00:35:2913.

00:35:30Because it suppresses

00:35:31the immune system role,

00:35:32side effects can include

00:35:33very dangerous

00:35:34bacterial infections.

00:35:35Things like pneumonia

00:35:37or cellulitis

00:35:38or pharyngitis.

00:35:40To avoid negative effects,

00:35:42we took a dosage

00:35:43and measured

00:35:44the levels in my blood.

00:35:46Two hours after taking

00:35:46the dose,

00:35:4724, 48, 72, 96.

00:35:50You can start seeing

00:35:51if you get two high levels

00:35:52or two low levels,

00:35:53then adjust the dose

00:35:53based on that.

00:35:55You know,

00:35:55with this precise formulation,

00:35:57as far as we know,

00:35:58we are on the most

00:35:59aggressive rapamycin protocol

00:36:01of anyone in the industry.

00:36:06Do you follow

00:36:07Brian Johnson at all?

00:36:08I've met him before.

00:36:09What's your take

00:36:10on what he's doing?

00:36:10Uh...

00:36:12Some of the interventions

00:36:19that he takes,

00:36:20like rapamycin,

00:36:21they work in mice.

00:36:23We don't know

00:36:24if they would work

00:36:24in humans.

00:36:26We need to have

00:36:27properly designed

00:36:27experiments.

00:36:28Then we could make

00:36:29scientific conclusions.

00:36:31But what Brian's doing,

00:36:32it's not a scientific approach.

00:36:34This is the supplement,

00:36:36uh, warehouse.

00:36:38He's taking hundreds

00:36:39of different interventions,

00:36:41and that means

00:36:42it's very, very hard

00:36:43to identify which,

00:36:44if any, of them are working.

00:36:45What you really need to do

00:36:46is a clinical trial

00:36:47where you get thousands

00:36:49of people,

00:36:49not just one,

00:36:50and you give them all

00:36:51the same intervention

00:36:52at the same dose.

00:36:54I think there's value

00:36:55in these individual

00:36:57N-of-one experiments

00:36:58where people are testing

00:36:59different things

00:37:00on themselves,

00:37:01but it's never going

00:37:02to be accepted

00:37:03by the broader

00:37:04medical community

00:37:06or regulatory,

00:37:07um, agencies.

00:37:09We need the more

00:37:11rigorous clinical trials.

00:37:13Brian blocked me

00:37:13on Twitter

00:37:14because I suggested

00:37:15that he use

00:37:16some of his hundreds

00:37:16of millions of pounds

00:37:17to fund a clinical trial.

00:37:18Specifically,

00:37:19the TAME trial,

00:37:20which wants to find out

00:37:21if metformin

00:37:22is actually

00:37:22an anti-aging drug.

00:37:24Brian takes metformin,

00:37:25so if he wants to know

00:37:26if what he's doing

00:37:26is actually of any use

00:37:27to him,

00:37:28then it'll be

00:37:28of huge value

00:37:29to him and the rest

00:37:30of the longevity community

00:37:31to fund this trial.

00:37:32But I guess he didn't

00:37:33like me telling him

00:37:34how to spend his money.

00:37:37Whoa.

00:37:38That's really good.

00:37:40What Brian does,

00:37:41I guess,

00:37:41brings attention

00:37:42to our field.

00:37:43This will be positive,

00:37:44but it has almost

00:37:46no contribution

00:37:47to science, right?

00:37:48It's not science.

00:37:49It's just attention.

00:37:50So, yeah,

00:37:51we're going to be

00:37:52filming some shorts.

00:37:53We've been playing

00:37:53around with doing that.

00:37:55So we're upping

00:37:56our social media game.

00:37:58Yeah, we had

00:37:59our first victories.

00:38:01The past two weeks,

00:38:02we had two of our videos

00:38:03get a few million views.

00:38:04Three,

00:38:05just on Instagram.

00:38:06And one on TikTok

00:38:07is approaching.

00:38:09I get messages

00:38:09all the time,

00:38:10like, hey,

00:38:10can I get connected

00:38:11with your PR firm?

00:38:13Well,

00:38:13you're talking to it,

00:38:14like,

00:38:15the two of us.

00:38:16Come on,

00:38:16Brian guy.

00:38:17I appreciate this.

00:38:18Let's go.

00:38:19Is that all you got?

00:38:21I think you just

00:38:22ate something.

00:38:23YouTube sent us

00:38:25a box.

00:38:26Presented to Brian Johnson

00:38:27for passing 100,000

00:38:29subscribers.

00:38:32A lot of people

00:38:33are clearly

00:38:34very interested

00:38:35in anti-aging.

00:38:36We're all aging.

00:38:37We'd all probably

00:38:37like to know

00:38:38how to slow it down

00:38:38at least a little bit.

00:38:40Brian Johnson,

00:38:41if you look at the media

00:38:42that he's doing himself,

00:38:43he's clearly intending

00:38:44to reach as many people

00:38:45as possible.

00:38:46The real question is,

00:38:48what's his motivation?

00:38:50Today,

00:38:50I'm going to show you

00:38:51about this device

00:38:52I use to do

00:38:53the equivalent

00:38:53of 20,000 sit-ups

00:38:55in 30 minutes.

00:38:57It would be something

00:38:58like an infomercial.

00:38:59I know,

00:38:59I was going to say

00:39:00it like something's wrong here.

00:39:02If you buy right now

00:39:03the button low-right $19.99,

00:39:05four easy installments,

00:39:07free shipping.

00:39:09Brian Johnson

00:39:10is going to die one day.

00:39:11Furthermore,

00:39:12it is my personal opinion

00:39:14that Brian Johnson

00:39:15is a grifter

00:39:15who,

00:39:16regardless of whether

00:39:18or not he actually

00:39:19believes he's going

00:39:19to live forever,

00:39:20is absolutely

00:39:22trying to make

00:39:23a quick buck

00:39:23off of people

00:39:25who are terrified

00:39:26of the idea

00:39:27of death

00:39:28and who have

00:39:29more money

00:39:30than common sense.

00:39:33Okay,

00:39:33I got something

00:39:34special today.

00:39:35What is this?

00:39:36This is

00:39:37the very first

00:39:39blueprint product

00:39:39we have.

00:39:40Brian Johnson's

00:39:42Blueprints

00:39:43Ultra Premium

00:39:44Extra Virgin

00:39:46Olive Oil.

00:39:47This is the oldest

00:39:48trick in the book

00:39:49as far as

00:39:49self-help scams

00:39:51and just plain old

00:39:52marketing go.

00:39:53You convince people

00:39:54of the problem

00:39:55and then sell them

00:39:56the solution.

00:39:58I've seen one

00:39:59A take one.

00:40:00A roll.

00:40:01Get me on

00:40:02your anti-aging routine

00:40:03and do it fast

00:40:04but make it simple.

00:40:05That's the most

00:40:06common thing I hear.

00:40:07How is that?

00:40:09I think that Blueprint

00:40:10is a commercial enterprise.

00:40:13If you go onto

00:40:13his website,

00:40:14every single link

00:40:15on that Blueprint page

00:40:15is an Amazon affiliate link,

00:40:17which means that

00:40:17if you click on it

00:40:18and buy something

00:40:18on Amazon,

00:40:19he gets a small cut

00:40:19of the money.

00:40:20So this whole thing

00:40:21I think has been

00:40:21optimized as a

00:40:22money-making venture.

00:40:23I mean, obviously

00:40:24he's very rich,

00:40:24he's a very talented

00:40:25businessman,

00:40:26so that's going to be

00:40:26the way that he

00:40:27looks at things.

00:40:28Smells like olive oil.

00:40:29I would say very

00:40:30similar to most olive oils.

00:40:32A lot of the hate

00:40:33that we get at Blueprint

00:40:33is kind of interesting

00:40:34in that I make products

00:40:36available for people

00:40:37to also become healthy

00:40:38and make the life changes

00:40:38they want to do

00:40:39and people hate on me.

00:40:41It tastes like shit.

00:40:43I see some people

00:40:44on Twitter giving him

00:40:45a really hard time

00:40:46for all the merchandise.

00:40:48I've followed him

00:40:49for years

00:40:51and I'm 100% convinced

00:40:53this was not

00:40:54like the master plan.

00:40:57I remember he was

00:40:58trying to do Blueprint

00:40:59for a couple years

00:41:00and it was this

00:41:01very personal quest.

00:41:03That's a lot of volume.

00:41:04Seven of these today.

00:41:05He turned to this

00:41:06hardcore health regimen

00:41:08as the solution

00:41:09to these mental health problems.

00:41:12Yeah, I think he believes

00:41:13in what he's doing.

00:41:14It's a huge difference.

00:41:15I imagine this is like

00:41:17emotional for you

00:41:17in a sense that like

00:41:18it sounds like you weren't

00:41:19completely happy

00:41:20with your past self.

00:41:21No.

00:41:23Um...

00:41:23I feel like

00:41:25that person's gone.

00:41:38Should I do this

00:41:38in portrait mode

00:41:39or...

00:41:40I should probably

00:41:43get better lighting though.

00:41:44I have an idea.

00:41:47Oh, I think it looks good.

00:41:48Hmm.

00:41:49Cool idea.

00:41:51The morning rituals

00:41:52that Talmadge and I

00:41:52have together,

00:41:53it's a big part

00:41:54of our lives.

00:41:55You say,

00:41:56what do you think?

00:41:56But soon,

00:41:57Talmadge will be doing this

00:41:58in his dorm in Chicago.

00:42:00I will be here

00:42:01by myself.

00:42:02How do you feel

00:42:03about that Talmadge?

00:42:04Talmadge is not

00:42:06looking at this

00:42:06from a fear of loss.

00:42:07Talmadge is looking

00:42:08at this from

00:42:08an opportunity of gain

00:42:10and particularly

00:42:10a girlfriend.

00:42:12Potentially.

00:42:19Kind of, my pills.

00:42:20Yes.

00:42:27I remember

00:42:28when I was going

00:42:28to college as well,

00:42:30loss of anything

00:42:31in my family environment

00:42:33was not even on my radar.

00:42:34It was entirely about

00:42:36all the new life experiences.

00:42:38Yeah.

00:42:39I'm excited.

00:42:40I do view it

00:42:41as an opportunity for gain.

00:42:44But there is loss too.

00:42:47Yeah.

00:42:49Going through

00:42:50this experience,

00:42:51I guess it invites me

00:42:52to have a lot more empathy

00:42:53for my parents

00:42:54and what they may be

00:42:54going through.

00:42:55Like my dad,

00:42:56if you think about him

00:42:57and age,

00:42:58he said the other day,

00:42:59he googled

00:43:00what happens

00:43:01when you turn 70

00:43:02or when you're over 70

00:43:03and he said jokingly,

00:43:05don't do it.

00:43:07Like every morning

00:43:08you wake up

00:43:08and it's like,

00:43:09how am I doing?

00:43:11Is there one more thing

00:43:12that's broken

00:43:13or that hurts more?

00:43:15Like I wonder

00:43:15what that must feel like.

00:43:17I've always been a mental guy.

00:43:30I've always thought

00:43:32that I could honestly think

00:43:33about 10 things

00:43:34at the same time.

00:43:36But I got to the point

00:43:37where I would write a paragraph

00:43:39that didn't make sense.

00:43:42That scares me to death.

00:43:44One day,

00:43:45my father called panicking.

00:43:47He said I would do anything

00:43:49to continue

00:43:50with my mental acuity.

00:43:53And I said,

00:43:54Dad,

00:43:55I'm doing this plasma therapy

00:43:56for myself.

00:43:57There are other people

00:43:58who are doing it

00:43:59for Alzheimer's, Parkinson's.

00:44:01And I said,

00:44:01if you're interested,

00:44:02you can come to Texas

00:44:03with me

00:44:04and I would love

00:44:06to give you

00:44:07a liter of plasma.

00:44:08There it is.

00:44:09There's the plasma.

00:44:09There are certain interventions

00:44:12that truly reverse the ages.

00:44:15For example,

00:44:16this idea of young blood plasma.

00:44:21The reversal effect

00:44:22can be observed

00:44:23in this study

00:44:24where researchers

00:44:25connect a young mouse

00:44:27to an old mouse.

00:44:30They literally connect

00:44:32their arteries and veins.

00:44:34So there's a blood exchange.

00:44:36And you can see

00:44:38that young plasma

00:44:39circulated through

00:44:41the old mouse

00:44:42reverses the epigenetic ages

00:44:44of multiple organs.

00:44:46In one study,

00:44:48we saw a reverse

00:44:49of 50% in a rat.

00:44:51Then in another study,

00:44:52more recently,

00:44:53in mice,

00:44:5430%.

00:44:55When we're looking

00:44:57at plasma,

00:44:57I guess option one,

00:44:59you know,

00:44:59sew me together

00:44:59with a young human.

00:45:02That's not practical.

00:45:03We said,

00:45:04we can't do that one.

00:45:05So the next case

00:45:06is we look at

00:45:06these plasma exchanges.

00:45:08I didn't see

00:45:09the vision at first,

00:45:10but Brian told me

00:45:11that this would be

00:45:12someone doing something

00:45:14for their loved one

00:45:15that mattered.

00:45:17It was actually

00:45:18an investment

00:45:19in their health

00:45:20by giving them

00:45:21some of your health.

00:45:22And so I tell Talmadge,

00:45:23I'm like, hey,

00:45:24like, Grandpa's pumped

00:45:25about this.

00:45:25So we start talking

00:45:26and we said,

00:45:28what if you did it too?

00:45:30You donate your plasma

00:45:32to me.

00:45:32I will to Dad.

00:45:34It'll be this

00:45:34multi-generational thing.

00:45:36What do you think?

00:45:36And he instantaneously

00:45:38said, yes, I'm in.

00:45:40We're 34,000 feet.

00:45:41We're flying to Dallas.

00:45:42We just had some food.

00:45:44Talmadge is right behind me.

00:45:49I need to check in

00:45:50to see what he's eating

00:45:51to make sure

00:45:51his plasma's okay.

00:45:54The plasma stuff

00:45:55always sounds super creepy

00:45:56to anyone who hears

00:45:58about it for the first time.

00:45:59But Brian was not

00:46:01the first guy

00:46:01to do this.

00:46:03Years ago,

00:46:04there would be

00:46:04these stories

00:46:05about Peter Thiel,

00:46:06the venture capitalist,

00:46:07one of the first

00:46:07investors in Facebook,

00:46:09draining the blood

00:46:10of some young,

00:46:11healthy people.

00:46:12I'm not sure

00:46:13that that's true,

00:46:14but this all got out

00:46:15into the wild.

00:46:16It sort of got parodied

00:46:18in the show

00:46:18Silicon Valley.

00:46:19Everything okay?

00:46:20Uh, is Bryce your assistant?

00:46:22No, of course not.

00:46:23He's my transfusion associate.

00:46:25Most Silicon Valley people,

00:46:26if they had a blood boy,

00:46:28they didn't want anybody

00:46:29to know about it,

00:46:30but Brian,

00:46:31being Brian,

00:46:32kind of embraced

00:46:33all this

00:46:34and was out there

00:46:35parading his blood boys

00:46:36around on Twitter

00:46:37and taking photographs.

00:46:39You guys look awesome.

00:46:42It did have the elements

00:46:43of, like, absurdity

00:46:44that I thought

00:46:45would come with Brian

00:46:46having the whole family

00:46:47show up

00:46:48as if you were going

00:46:49to, like, a ball game,

00:46:50except you were just

00:46:51all gonna swap plasma.

00:46:54Oh, what?

00:46:56The plasma bus

00:46:57got decorated.

00:46:58Love flows from the heart.

00:47:01I guess it's really

00:47:02the vein,

00:47:03but this is amazing.

00:47:06Hey, look at that.

00:47:09That's pretty plasma.

00:47:11So what's good about this?

00:47:12The color's really nice.

00:47:13It's pristine.

00:47:15I'm actually honestly

00:47:15scared that it's gonna be

00:47:16more clear than mine.

00:47:19Like, it'll be embarrassing.

00:47:20So, like, I'm hoping,

00:47:22you know, it's good,

00:47:23but I'm also...

00:47:24Yeah, I understand that.

00:47:25It's competition.

00:47:26I understand that.

00:47:27I mean, this is the way

00:47:28you can tell,

00:47:28am I a fraud or not?

00:47:30Right?

00:47:30Like, all right, haters.

00:47:32Yeah.

00:47:33What'd you say about this?

00:47:35I have identified

00:47:36the world's first vampire.

00:47:39Anti-aging fanatic

00:47:40who spends more than

00:47:41$2 million per year

00:47:43to retain youth

00:47:44uses teen son

00:47:45as, quote,

00:47:46blood boy.

00:47:47Bruh.

00:47:48His son needs

00:47:49to watch out right now.

00:47:50His son needs to run.

00:47:51Oh, the dating mail's up.

00:47:53Yeah.

00:47:54Okay.

00:47:55Some of the comments

00:47:56on the dating mail.

00:47:57What a weirdo.

00:47:58Disgusting and satanic.

00:48:00What a waste of time.

00:48:02Oh, humanity's so great.

00:48:07The plasma transfer

00:48:09blew up on social media.

00:48:11And, of course,

00:48:12the easy place to go

00:48:13is vampire,

00:48:15blood draw,

00:48:16blood boy.

00:48:17And the mean spirit

00:48:18instead of drawing

00:48:20my ire

00:48:21and my absolute anger

00:48:24really made me sad.

00:48:27All right, Dad.

00:48:29How's the torch?

00:48:30Let's get you

00:48:30a new pillow.

00:48:32One thing people

00:48:33don't get,

00:48:33this was an event

00:48:35that transcended

00:48:36a trial of a therapy.

00:48:38You know how special

00:48:39this is.

00:48:40You know,

00:48:41the connection

00:48:42and everything,

00:48:42this is just like

00:48:43a manifestation

00:48:44of all that

00:48:45commitment,

00:48:46everything else.

00:48:47Yeah, better than words.

00:48:49Better than words.

00:48:50When you become

00:48:51invested in

00:48:53the other person

00:48:54to the point

00:48:55that you step up

00:48:56and you share biology,

00:48:59having that kind

00:49:00of intimacy

00:49:00with both Brian

00:49:02and with Talmadge,

00:49:03for me,

00:49:04it was a chance

00:49:05to reconcile.

00:49:09When I was early married,

00:49:11you would never see

00:49:12a more serious MF-er

00:49:14in Mormonism

00:49:15than me.

00:49:17But the problem was

00:49:18it was not my life.

00:49:21When I was younger,

00:49:22my father went

00:49:23through some difficult times

00:49:24with professional challenges

00:49:25and drugs.

00:49:27His mom and I

00:49:29separated

00:49:29and got a divorce.

00:49:31At that time,

00:49:32I wasn't sure

00:49:33whether to find

00:49:34a girlfriend

00:49:35or have a line of Coke

00:49:36to go to Temple

00:49:37or go have a scotch.

00:49:39when your life

00:49:40is so screwed up

00:49:43to that point

00:49:44and you have no idea

00:49:45what your moral standards are,

00:49:47it all falls apart.

00:49:49It was like

00:49:50a 95% likelihood

00:49:53that he would fall through

00:49:54on anything.

00:49:56Like, pick me up

00:49:57from school,

00:49:59help me with

00:50:00a homework assignment,

00:50:00call me when he said

00:50:01it would never happen.

00:50:03That probably affected

00:50:05Brian the most

00:50:06of any of the kids.

00:50:07He was the one

00:50:08that wanted to go

00:50:10with his dad.

00:50:11He's the one

00:50:12that waited for him.

00:50:13I think it hurt him

00:50:15a lot.

00:50:18He got arrested

00:50:19when I was 22

00:50:22and I went and saw him

00:50:24in jail

00:50:24and that was a moment

00:50:28for him.

00:50:29Guess who came

00:50:30to see his dad

00:50:30and words of judgment

00:50:33like,

00:50:34God, Dad,

00:50:35clean up your act?

00:50:36No.

00:50:37You can do it, Dad.

00:50:41Did anyone else come?

00:50:43No.

00:50:48No.

00:50:49No.

00:50:57I'm ningo.

00:50:59Me being at that point,

00:51:00and being at this point,

00:51:03I mean,

00:51:04have Brian holding onto me,

00:51:07having Talmadge.

00:51:09What could be

00:51:10a better statement

00:51:11of reconciliation?

00:51:14Love you, Dad.

00:51:15Yeah, I love you.

00:51:17What a great experience.

00:51:20You feel the love?

00:51:22It was one of the most

00:51:24precious life experiences

00:51:25we've ever had.

00:51:26It morphed into this

00:51:30multi-generational healing

00:51:33bonding experience

00:51:34and was less about

00:51:37the therapeutic benefit.

00:51:42I feel like a parent

00:51:45and a child

00:51:46that maybe takes

00:51:47different paths

00:51:48can find a place

00:51:50for a good relationship.

00:51:51but it has to be

00:51:54a joint effort

00:51:55for both.

00:52:01Why are you having

00:52:02that reaction?

00:52:04It's hard work

00:52:05sometimes

00:52:06and it's,

00:52:08not without its heartache,

00:52:09but it can be done.

00:52:10Having this time

00:52:15with my father,

00:52:16I reflected a lot

00:52:17on being a dad.

00:52:21All right,

00:52:22here we go.

00:52:23Okay, guys.

00:52:24Hi, mister.

00:52:25Hey, Talmadge.

00:52:25What's up?

00:52:26It's been one of the most

00:52:27painful experiences

00:52:28of my life

00:52:29where two of my children

00:52:31keep me at bay

00:52:33because I'm not part

00:52:34of their religious organization.

00:52:35so I feel like

00:52:36I missed out

00:52:38on a meaningful part

00:52:39of their lives

00:52:39and it's been

00:52:42the most special

00:52:43experience in my life

00:52:43where one of my children

00:52:44has fully embraced me.

00:52:47I wish my other children

00:52:48would join me.

00:53:03Hi, Talmadge.

00:53:03How are you?

00:53:04Cool.

00:53:05Talmadge.

00:53:10Last night,

00:53:11I did a phone call date

00:53:14with somebody I met

00:53:16on a dating app.

00:53:18We're going to go out

00:53:19on a date next week.

00:53:20I wish her the best of luck.

00:53:23You wish her

00:53:24the best of luck?

00:53:24Yeah.

00:53:25Ha ha!

00:53:26Ha ha!

00:53:27Ha ha!

00:53:28Relationships are

00:53:30really important

00:53:30and, you know,

00:53:31with Talmadge leaving,

00:53:33I guess I need to rebuild

00:53:34rebuild my life.

00:53:36I told her

00:53:37why it'd be a bad idea.

00:53:39She seemed undeterred.

00:53:42Normally,

00:53:43when I engage with somebody

00:53:45and we're contemplating

00:53:46being friends,

00:53:47I make a list

00:53:48and I say,

00:53:50here are the 10 reasons

00:53:51why I'm a bad idea.

00:53:53You know, I have this protocol

00:53:55that is rigorous.

00:53:56I'm impossibly hard

00:53:57to be with

00:53:58and ultimately,

00:53:59you're just going to hate me.

00:54:01And so I try to get out

00:54:02in front of it

00:54:02and oftentimes,

00:54:04people will laugh

00:54:05and I'm like,

00:54:05no, for real.

00:54:06Ha ha!

00:54:07This is really

00:54:07what's going to happen.

00:54:08I don't know.

00:54:09Maybe it's a really bad strategy.

00:54:10Ha ha!

00:54:11Brian deserves

00:54:13to have companionship

00:54:16in his life

00:54:17and I think he's always

00:54:19struggled to find that.

00:54:21I feel like there's a conflict

00:54:23within Brian

00:54:24between family Brian,

00:54:26the one that wants a partner,

00:54:28wants to just, like,

00:54:29hang out,

00:54:30you know,

00:54:31be around loved ones

00:54:32and then the ambitious Brian

00:54:33who says, like,

00:54:34every ounce of my energy

00:54:36needs to be dedicated

00:54:37toward this mission.

00:54:38I went on two dates

00:54:49with this one woman

00:54:50and we got along fairly well

00:54:56but I think she basically

00:54:57was like,

00:54:58you're so far outside the norms,

00:55:00I just don't know

00:55:01if I, you know,

00:55:02if I can make sense

00:55:03of this whole thing.

00:55:05Are you willing to change?

00:55:07Ha ha ha!

00:55:08No.

00:55:09Ha ha ha ha ha!

00:55:12Let's just say

00:55:13relationships

00:55:14have never been my strength.

00:55:17I was married

00:55:17at the age of 24,

00:55:19I didn't have any girlfriends

00:55:20before that,

00:55:21so then when I got divorced

00:55:2213 years later,

00:55:23I had no idea

00:55:24how to deal with partnership.

00:55:27Brian is a complicated person

00:55:29and I remember

00:55:30we had a conversation

00:55:32with some concerns

00:55:33that might ever

00:55:34gonna find someone

00:55:35that would really fit with me,

00:55:37realizing that he was

00:55:38quite unique.

00:55:39I guess I just kind of

00:55:41stumbled through

00:55:42social interactions

00:55:42and my first girlfriend

00:55:45after getting a divorce

00:55:47has ended up

00:55:48in a pretty ugly lawsuit.

00:55:51Ah, that's a cool headline.

00:55:52Tech mogul Brian Johnson

00:55:53who spends two million a year

00:55:54for 18-year-old body

00:55:55cheated and dumped fiancé

00:55:57after she got breast cancer.

00:55:58Lawsuit?

00:55:59What?

00:56:00How is that a lawsuit, though?

00:56:02Johnson had agreed

00:56:03to provide

00:56:03lifelong financial support.

00:56:05Oh, this is where

00:56:06the lawsuit comes in.

00:56:07Then she got

00:56:08breast cancer.

00:56:11She became

00:56:11a net negative.

00:56:14Ha ha ha ha!

00:56:15And a bad deal for him.

00:56:17He described her

00:56:18as a business term.

00:56:19Oh, my God!

00:56:21Ha ha ha!

00:56:22Brian's relationship

00:56:23with Taryn

00:56:24I think was a very sweet

00:56:27relationship

00:56:27for both of them.

00:56:29I saw how happy

00:56:30it made them.

00:56:31And so,

00:56:32it was surprising to me

00:56:34to hear some allegations.

00:56:36Taryn filed a lawsuit

00:56:38against Brian.

00:56:39Taryn claimed

00:56:40after the cancer treatment,

00:56:42Brian demanded

00:56:42that she move out

00:56:43of the residence

00:56:44they shared.

00:56:45He told her

00:56:46that he would be willing

00:56:46to assist her

00:56:47with rent and expenses,

00:56:48but only if

00:56:49she signed

00:56:50this separation agreement.

00:56:51Almost like,

00:56:52hey, sign this NDA

00:56:53and I'll give you the money.

00:56:55She had no independent

00:56:56source of steady income.

00:56:58She tried to resist,

00:56:59but Brian was manipulative.

00:57:01Being labeled

00:57:01as this awful person

00:57:02for all these things,

00:57:04I was rattled deeply.

00:57:07We dated

00:57:08for a couple years

00:57:09and when we separated,

00:57:10she hired

00:57:11one of the most powerful

00:57:12law firms in the world.

00:57:14They sent me this letter

00:57:15demanding that I pay them

00:57:17$9 million

00:57:18that week

00:57:19or they were going

00:57:20to make these

00:57:22scandalous statements

00:57:23about me.

00:57:24I felt like they were

00:57:25all false allegations

00:57:26and so I said,

00:57:27I'm not doing it.

00:57:28Okay, game face.

00:57:30What is game face?

00:57:32If someone were

00:57:33to put a game face on.

00:57:34We were in arbitration

00:57:35where everything's confidential,

00:57:37but then the media

00:57:38found the lawsuit

00:57:39in the California courts

00:57:40and then published

00:57:41all of her allegations.

00:57:42Facing the destruction

00:57:47of my personal reputation

00:57:48by my former girlfriend

00:57:51and fiance,

00:57:52it's hard for me

00:57:53to walk into

00:57:55a relationship

00:57:55and trust

00:57:57that there's not

00:57:58some alternative motive.

00:58:00A lot of people,

00:58:00of course, say,

00:58:01boo-hoo,

00:58:02you're a rich person

00:58:03problems or whatever.

00:58:04Okay, sure.

00:58:06Also,

00:58:07it stinks

00:58:09because it does

00:58:09create a significant barrier

00:58:10for meaningful relationships

00:58:12because it just,

00:58:13it complicates everything.

00:58:17But with Talmadge,

00:58:19our relationship

00:58:20is rich and dynamic.

00:58:23Game on.

00:58:25Woo!

00:58:26That was amazing.

00:58:28Where's Talmadge?

00:58:29I gotta find Talmadge.

00:58:30There he is.

00:58:31Yes!

00:58:32Did you see time?

00:58:34What is it?

00:58:35I beat you.

00:58:35Oh, no!

00:58:37We can run it back tomorrow.

00:58:41I've never had

00:58:43a relationship

00:58:43in my life

00:58:44that has been

00:58:45this consistent

00:58:46and steady

00:58:48and soothing

00:58:49and fun.

00:58:52It has all the characteristics

00:58:53of everything

00:58:53I've always wanted

00:58:54in a best friend.

00:58:56Yes!

00:58:57You're killing it.

00:58:58And so I think,

00:58:59yeah,

00:58:59there's a meaningful amount

00:59:00of influence

00:59:02that Talmadge has

00:59:02on this project.

00:59:03Talmadge,

00:59:04Brian Johnson.

00:59:05Woo!

00:59:07People think I'm

00:59:10fearful of death.

00:59:11I'm not.

00:59:12I love life.

00:59:15And I love living life

00:59:17with Talmadge.

00:59:19Do you worry about him

00:59:20or do you think

00:59:21he'll be good on his own?

00:59:23I do worry about him.

00:59:24Like, yeah,

00:59:25we're gonna really

00:59:26miss each other.

00:59:27How did you write that

00:59:28Talmadge?

00:59:29Yeah.

00:59:30Previous generations,

00:59:31you have kids

00:59:31so that you can pass

00:59:32the torch.

00:59:33And now you have kids

00:59:35so that you can journey

00:59:36with them.

00:59:38I mean,

00:59:38don't die is real.

00:59:39Like,

00:59:39I want to journey

00:59:40with Talmadge

00:59:41for some indefinite

00:59:42period of time.

00:59:45I'm serious about this.

00:59:46I really do want to

00:59:49have multiple lifetimes

00:59:51with Talmadge

00:59:52and go through

00:59:53all the different phases.

00:59:55A hundred years

00:59:56is not gonna be enough.

01:00:04Ready?

01:00:04Yeah,

01:00:05whenever you're ready.

01:00:06Okay.

01:00:07Hi, everyone.

01:00:07Today is one of the most

01:00:08exciting days of Blueprint.

01:00:10We're gonna travel to an island

01:00:11just off the coast of Honduras,

01:00:13and I'm going to be injected

01:00:14with my first gene therapy.

01:00:17If you look at the age charts

01:00:18of humanity,

01:00:19humans have a 120-year ceiling.

01:00:22So if we want to say

01:00:23we're going to punch

01:00:24through this limitation

01:00:25of human lifespan,

01:00:26it's gonna be through gene therapy.

01:00:28Underwear, socks,

01:00:29shorts, shirts.

01:00:31Gene therapy is considered,

01:00:32you know,

01:00:33taking it as far as you can

01:00:34at this point.

01:00:36So it's kind of

01:00:37the extreme measure

01:00:38of treating biological aging.

01:00:41The state of gene therapy

01:00:42at the moment

01:00:42is that we're using it

01:00:43in the clinic,

01:00:44but we're using it

01:00:44for very serious conditions.

01:00:46Conditions where we know

01:00:47that there is a single gene

01:00:48that's causing the problem,

01:00:50and we can say

01:00:50editing this gene in this way

01:00:51would be successful.

01:00:53The idea of using gene therapy

01:00:55for aging

01:00:55is hugely exciting,

01:00:57but today,

01:00:58the science just isn't ready.

01:01:00And in fact,

01:01:01there's quite a big risk

01:01:02because there are these things

01:01:03called off-target effects,

01:01:04and so this is where

01:01:05the gene therapy goes in,

01:01:06and it modifies not just

01:01:07the DNA that you're trying

01:01:08to modify,

01:01:09but it modifies some other

01:01:10part of your genome.

01:01:10Many interventions

01:01:13do rejuvenate cells,

01:01:15but that incurs a risk

01:01:17that the cells

01:01:18then turn into different cells,

01:01:21malignant cells,

01:01:22cancer cells.

01:01:24Gene therapy is dangerous,

01:01:26and we have been evaluating

01:01:28various gene therapies

01:01:29for the past

01:01:30almost two years now.

01:01:32This is the only one

01:01:33that had the potential

01:01:35lifespan extenders

01:01:36that we were looking for

01:01:37that also met

01:01:38our safety criteria.

01:01:41In what Brian's trying

01:01:42to do in his journey,

01:01:43is there any part of you

01:01:44that's nervous

01:01:44for what he's trying

01:01:45to achieve?

01:01:47Yes.

01:01:48Yes.

01:01:49I am nervous

01:01:50for where Brian's going

01:01:50because me,

01:01:52I'm logical and smart.

01:01:54When I get to the edge

01:01:56of the ledge,

01:01:57I stop.

01:01:59I'm never taking

01:02:00the next step

01:02:01into the abyss.

01:02:02Generally,

01:02:07a person would get

01:02:08a gene therapy

01:02:09in a clinical trial,

01:02:11and the problem

01:02:12with clinical trials

01:02:13is they are limited.

01:02:16Certainly,

01:02:16there isn't gene therapy

01:02:17for aging

01:02:18in clinical trials

01:02:19at this moment.

01:02:21So other than that,

01:02:22you would travel

01:02:23for medical tourism.

01:02:25And one place

01:02:26that gene therapy

01:02:28is being offered

01:02:28is Roatan, Honduras.

01:02:31There is a free zone

01:02:32there called Prospera.

01:02:35Prospera is a special

01:02:36economic zone

01:02:37that the state

01:02:39of Honduras

01:02:40has licensed

01:02:40with the ability

01:02:41to create new

01:02:43business laws

01:02:44that are favorable

01:02:46to innovations

01:02:47like our gene therapy.

01:02:49Here,

01:02:50we're able to operate

01:02:52under a ethics review board

01:02:54and a committee

01:02:54that makes sure

01:02:55that we're doing

01:02:56everything up to standard.

01:02:58All this that you see

01:02:59is Prospera.

01:03:01I'm going to look out

01:03:02for dinosaurs.

01:03:03We're working on an axe.

01:03:06You know,

01:03:07we are planning

01:03:08on doing trials

01:03:09in the United States.

01:03:10However,

01:03:11it's a thing,

01:03:11it takes some time,

01:03:12and it's not necessarily

01:03:13time devoted

01:03:14towards laboratory work.

01:03:17It's more of a thing

01:03:18of legal issues

01:03:20and having lawyers

01:03:21communicate on your behalf

01:03:22with a very large

01:03:24and very bureaucratic

01:03:26regulatory agency.

01:03:28It's go time.

01:03:30All right,

01:03:30this way.

01:03:31If I'm being honest,

01:03:33Prospera is like

01:03:33a batshit crazy idea.

01:03:36It's like you just

01:03:37take over a little bit

01:03:38of land,

01:03:39set up all your own rules.

01:03:41I like Mac and Walter

01:03:43very much.

01:03:44They seem like nice guys.

01:03:45They didn't strike me

01:03:46as, you know,

01:03:4820-year PhD

01:03:49type scientist.

01:03:52And so,

01:03:52it was like the first

01:03:53thing Brian's done

01:03:55where I really was like,

01:03:56is this a good idea?

01:04:00If there's anything,

01:04:01you have any questions

01:04:02about,

01:04:03whatever information

01:04:04you need,

01:04:04we will do our best

01:04:05to provide.

01:04:06Any kind of diagnostic,

01:04:08anything.

01:04:08We will do our best.

01:04:11I appreciate it, Walter.

01:04:13When me and Mac

01:04:14started the company,

01:04:15we wanted to make

01:04:16a big difference

01:04:16in people's lives.

01:04:18You know,

01:04:18we're dealt

01:04:19a certain hand

01:04:20at our birth.

01:04:21We're dealt

01:04:22with the genes

01:04:23we're given.

01:04:24And we want

01:04:26to give people options.

01:04:29This gene therapy,

01:04:31which is folostatin,

01:04:32has primarily been used

01:04:34in bodybuilding,

01:04:35where you're looking

01:04:36at increased muscle mass

01:04:37and strength.

01:04:39For some people,

01:04:40bulking up is desirable,

01:04:41but generally,

01:04:42with age,

01:04:43sarcopenia,

01:04:44osteoporosis,

01:04:45and frailty,

01:04:45are severe problems.

01:04:47Our gene therapy

01:04:48treats that

01:04:49either preventatively

01:04:50in young people

01:04:51or in a reactive way

01:04:53in older people

01:04:54who are already

01:04:54experiencing it.

01:04:55If you look at

01:04:56the mouse lifespan studies

01:04:57where it was used,

01:04:58they had a 30%

01:05:00lifespan extension.

01:05:02And so if I end up

01:05:03looking like

01:05:04a Marvel character,

01:05:05all the better.

01:05:06Can I get some help

01:05:07on this?

01:05:08After the gene therapy,

01:05:09I'm not going to fit

01:05:10in this thing

01:05:10or maybe I'm just going to,

01:05:11you know,

01:05:12I'm going to hulk out of it.

01:05:15He's so confident,

01:05:17but I'm a little worried

01:05:19for him.

01:05:21Like, we just don't know

01:05:22how his body's going to react.

01:05:24And I would just,

01:05:25I would hate for anything

01:05:25to happen to him.

01:05:26It's really important to note,

01:05:32any gene therapy

01:05:33that integrates

01:05:34into your existing genome

01:05:35does change your DNA.

01:05:38Our gene therapy

01:05:39does not integrate.

01:05:40Once you get injected,

01:05:41it's not editing your DNA,

01:05:42it's just giving you

01:05:43an added piece of DNA

01:05:45that's parallel

01:05:45and creates

01:05:47a little export factory

01:05:48with folistatin.

01:05:50Most gene therapies,

01:05:51because they integrate

01:05:52into your chromosomal DNA,

01:05:54once it's there,

01:05:55it's there.

01:05:56And you can't turn it off.

01:05:58Our gene therapy

01:05:59doesn't integrate.

01:06:00And so we've introduced

01:06:01the concept of a kill switch.

01:06:04It's potentially safer

01:06:05because if you want

01:06:06to turn it off,

01:06:07there's a few methods

01:06:08that we could use

01:06:09to make it reversible.

01:06:12Hey.

01:06:13Are you ready for this?

01:06:15I'm ready for this.

01:06:16All right.

01:06:17Let's go.

01:06:22Here it comes.

01:06:23It stings just a little bit.

01:06:35Jeez, I wish we could drag this out,

01:06:37but that's it.

01:06:39Thanks, Doc.

01:06:40It was clean and injections.

01:06:42Yeah, good.

01:06:42I am now officially

01:06:45a genetically enhanced human.

01:06:50When people see someone like me

01:06:52doing gene therapy,

01:06:53many think of inequality

01:06:55or they see a divide

01:06:56between rich and poor.

01:06:58The way I think about it is

01:07:00if we can prove

01:07:01that this gene therapy

01:07:02is safe and effective

01:07:04and then, you know,

01:07:0610,000 people

01:07:08are willing to do it,

01:07:09that price is going to go down.

01:07:11Doctor, thanks.

01:07:12You're welcome.

01:07:13Yeah, really appreciate you.

01:07:14Okay.

01:07:15There are very expensive

01:07:16interventions

01:07:16like gene therapy

01:07:18that we need to test.

01:07:20For academics,

01:07:21it's prohibitively expensive

01:07:22to do the human clinical studies.

01:07:24And maybe longevity clinics

01:07:27where people pay a lot of money

01:07:28are places we can

01:07:29at least get some data.

01:07:31So I'm not against

01:07:32having clinics available,

01:07:33but once we find out

01:07:35how things work,

01:07:36we have to figure out

01:07:37how to scale them

01:07:38and make them broadly available.

01:07:40I don't know

01:07:41if we'll live forever,

01:07:42but at least we absolutely

01:07:44will buy the next guy

01:07:45some more time.

01:07:47And, you know,

01:07:48I'd rather give my children

01:07:49more years

01:07:49than I had the opportunity for.

01:07:52So thank you so much

01:07:53for believing in us.

01:07:54Yeah, thank you.

01:07:55Both of you.

01:07:55Thanks for having me.

01:07:56Yeah.

01:07:58Wow.

01:08:00That looks still enough

01:08:01to walk on.

01:08:02If we put a camera on top,

01:08:04I can walk on water here.

01:08:07From Homo sapien to Homo deus,

01:08:09testing out whether

01:08:10the gene therapy,

01:08:12if the effects have taken.

01:08:14Be careful, Jacob.

01:08:16Don't die.

01:08:17No one can die.

01:08:24Brian,

01:08:24when he was young,

01:08:26really lived from religion.

01:08:28You know,

01:08:30I can remember

01:08:31a stage that he went through

01:08:33where, I mean,

01:08:35he literally wanted

01:08:36to be like Joseph Smith.

01:08:38Joseph Smith, of course,

01:08:39is the founding prophet

01:08:41in Mormonism.

01:08:42And I think the thing

01:08:43that you see

01:08:44as a continuing principle

01:08:45with Brian,

01:08:47he wants his life

01:08:48to be such

01:08:49that he would stick out

01:08:51like a Joseph Smith.

01:08:53His reward will be

01:08:55when he effects change.

01:08:57Change to him

01:08:58is the aphrodisiac.

01:09:00It is the drug.

01:09:02Health and wellness

01:09:02is all like religion.

01:09:03With the Bible...

01:09:04It's not hard

01:09:05to make the argument

01:09:06that he gave up

01:09:08on the church,

01:09:09had to find

01:09:09a new religion,

01:09:10and has turned health

01:09:11and himself

01:09:12into this religion,

01:09:13and it's this very

01:09:14narcissistic enterprise.

01:09:1615,000 views

01:09:17in three hours.

01:09:19585 comments.

01:09:21Receiving attention.

01:09:22Having people care

01:09:23about what he's doing.

01:09:24I think he does

01:09:25care about that.

01:09:27But I don't actually

01:09:28think it, like,

01:09:28undermines what he's doing

01:09:29because it's so

01:09:30out there in the open.

01:09:33I made a statement

01:09:35yesterday that

01:09:36Jesus has had

01:09:372,000 years.

01:09:38I don't see any evidence

01:09:39of his work.

01:09:40I've done more

01:09:41in two years.

01:09:42How'd that go?

01:09:43As you might expect.

01:09:46He talks about himself

01:09:48as being kind of

01:09:49health Jesus,

01:09:50with, like,

01:09:50a little bit of humor,

01:09:51but also, I think,

01:09:53quite a bit of pride.

01:09:54Hi, guys.

01:09:55Hey.

01:09:56He's embracing

01:09:57the cult-y aspect

01:09:58of this all,

01:09:59and it only seems

01:10:00to be building

01:10:01more and more momentum.

01:10:03How do you think

01:10:04I appear to your friends?

01:10:06I think the only way

01:10:06for me to understand

01:10:07that is if one

01:10:08of my friend's dads

01:10:09was starting a cult,

01:10:12and how I'd look at that.

01:10:15I probably wouldn't think

01:10:16much of it

01:10:17because you're doing it.

01:10:18Am I starting a cult?

01:10:20Yes.

01:10:21Am I?

01:10:21Yeah.

01:10:22It's not a bad thing.

01:10:24It just is.

01:10:26I know Brian's tried

01:10:28to force this

01:10:28to be a religion.

01:10:30There's a part of me,

01:10:31though, that thinks

01:10:31this is almost like

01:10:32the right religion

01:10:33for this moment.

01:10:36In some ways,

01:10:37it is like this antidote

01:10:38to the way the world

01:10:39thinks about health.

01:10:41There are still

01:10:42serious concerns

01:10:43about the nation's

01:10:44health care system.

01:10:45The National Health Service

01:10:46is broken.

01:10:47Why is the system

01:10:48letting doctors

01:10:49and patients down?

01:10:51The approach to health

01:10:53in pretty much

01:10:54every developed nation

01:10:55has really been centered

01:10:56around waiting

01:10:57until people develop

01:10:59a disease

01:10:59and then attempting

01:11:01to cure that disease,

01:11:02but in reality,

01:11:03pretty much just

01:11:04treating symptoms.

01:11:05One of the consequences

01:11:06of that is that

01:11:07the prevalence

01:11:08of chronic disease

01:11:09has increased dramatically

01:11:10over the last 50 years.

01:11:12We think, you know,

01:11:13I'll go to bed at 90

01:11:15and I'll die in my sleep.

01:11:16That almost never happens.

01:11:17If you go into

01:11:18a geriatric world

01:11:19and you see people

01:11:20incontinent, immobile,

01:11:22if we do look at it,

01:11:23if we stare this in the face,

01:11:25it's particularly unpleasant.

01:11:27At the moment,

01:11:28we are spending

01:11:28so much money

01:11:30treating very sick individuals.

01:11:32I think we have to ask,

01:11:34why wouldn't you

01:11:35invest earlier in life

01:11:36to keep them healthy

01:11:38to not having

01:11:39so many people

01:11:40with age-related diseases?

01:11:43You know, in the U.S.,

01:11:44doctors are generally

01:11:45paid on procedures.

01:11:47And I remember

01:11:47when I was at the Buck

01:11:48doing research on aging,

01:11:50there was a large

01:11:51hospital chain

01:11:52that was thinking

01:11:53about giving a donation

01:11:54to the research.

01:11:55And we talked

01:11:55about HealthSpan

01:11:56and the CEO

01:11:58looked at me and said,

01:12:00well, if we do this,

01:12:01you're going to cut

01:12:01our procedure rate

01:12:02by 60%.

01:12:03Why would I do this?

01:12:04And so we need

01:12:06to think about

01:12:07how we really want

01:12:08to focus on

01:12:08the health

01:12:09of the population.

01:12:14I think that's

01:12:14the most admirable part

01:12:16about what Brian is doing.

01:12:17It's the most proactive

01:12:18thing you could imagine.

01:12:20And if the medical system

01:12:21was wired even just

01:12:23like a little bit

01:12:24more this way,

01:12:24I think it'd probably

01:12:25be good for the rest of us.

01:12:28If we can solve

01:12:29this fundamental problem,

01:12:31we may walk

01:12:32into a future

01:12:33where all of us

01:12:35live healthier

01:12:36and longer

01:12:36with the people

01:12:38that we care about.

01:12:46Three days.

01:12:48That's so wild to me.

01:12:50I know, it's here.

01:12:51Think of it,

01:12:52I've been acting

01:12:53all tough guy,

01:12:54like, yeah,

01:12:54I'm going off to college.

01:12:55But when I start

01:12:57to think about it,

01:12:58like, ugh.

01:12:58I'm defeated.

01:13:00Oh, shit.

01:13:02I'll get over it.

01:13:03I just feel defeated.

01:13:04It's like,

01:13:05it's like you're,

01:13:06you got me,

01:13:07but now you're

01:13:07losing me again.

01:13:08Yeah.

01:13:10Yeah.

01:13:14Yeah.

01:13:1419-21,

01:13:23it's a close game, Dad.

01:13:24I was down,

01:13:25then you were down.

01:13:26Yeah, you came back,

01:13:27but come back.

01:13:28Good job.

01:13:29You too.

01:13:30Good game.

01:13:31I've always been

01:13:32the Talmadge whisperer.

01:13:34From the moment

01:13:35he came out of the womb,

01:13:37I was the one

01:13:38who could quiet him,

01:13:39settle him,

01:13:40and it was just

01:13:41my little Talmadge.

01:13:42And this week,

01:13:43he's ready to go.

01:13:44Hi, mister.

01:13:47Do you need help

01:13:48with anything today?

01:13:49No.

01:13:52My priorities

01:13:53involve stuff

01:13:55I do by myself.

01:13:58With kids' help.

01:14:03He's learned everything

01:14:04he needs to learn from me,

01:14:05and I was just going

01:14:08through the typical

01:14:09parental process

01:14:10of having, you know,

01:14:12someone leave your nest.

01:14:13Yeah, I like it.

01:14:14cute.

01:14:15Yeah.

01:14:26Talmadge Brian Johnson,

01:14:27ready to go.

01:14:29As soon as I step past this,

01:14:31I'm out.

01:14:33The voyage begins.

01:14:34Welcome, Talmadge.

01:14:53Talmadge,

01:14:54happy college prep day.

01:14:56Do we have a starting plan?

01:14:59Are we going to

01:15:00kitchen and stuff first?

01:15:02Are we following you around?

01:15:03Are we engaged

01:15:04in the process?

01:15:05Do you know

01:15:05what you're going to do?

01:15:07You got linens over here.

01:15:09Linens

01:15:10and a comforter.

01:15:11What's your bed size?

01:15:13Oh,

01:15:13so complicated.

01:15:15Over here, Talmadge.

01:15:19Do you got me?

01:15:20Yeah.

01:15:20Oh, God.

01:15:26I confess,

01:15:26I just about

01:15:27started crying

01:15:28when we walked

01:15:29by that place,

01:15:30all the little toys.

01:15:30I saw you.

01:15:31Yeah, I did.

01:15:32I lost my breath.

01:15:34Kind of goes against

01:15:35your whole emotionless thing.

01:15:37Yeah.

01:15:37Oh.

01:15:38Why am I crying

01:15:51in Target?

01:15:52So much going on

01:16:08inside of me,

01:16:08I don't even know.

01:16:14Okay.

01:16:16Do you like a blue?

01:16:20Gray?

01:16:21Green?

01:16:21I think I'm

01:16:22a green kind of guy.

01:16:26These past

01:16:27150 days,

01:16:29Talmadge has been

01:16:30this presence

01:16:31in my life.

01:16:32We just love each other.

01:16:34And if we look

01:16:34at all the science

01:16:35about humans,

01:16:37the humans thrive

01:16:38in community.

01:16:39They thrive

01:16:39in

01:16:40positive relationships.

01:16:45Yeah,

01:16:46it's not

01:16:47a good thing

01:16:47to be alone.

01:16:49So I

01:16:50I wouldn't be

01:16:51so brazen

01:16:52to think

01:16:52that I'm going

01:16:53to defy

01:16:53what the science

01:16:55shows on

01:16:56human connection

01:16:56and community.

01:16:59Do you have a plan?

01:17:00No.

01:17:09Welcome

01:17:10to the

01:17:10University of Chicago.

01:17:21Do you see it?

01:17:22Right there.

01:17:22Yeah.

01:17:26This is perfect.

01:17:27We have a fan.

01:17:28That's nice.

01:17:29These are nicer

01:17:30than I have.

01:17:31Do you have a preference

01:17:32on which side

01:17:33you want to expose

01:17:34to your skin?

01:17:35See,

01:17:36this is

01:17:36front,

01:17:37face,

01:17:37left.

01:17:38I feel like

01:17:39it's really

01:17:39going to hit

01:17:40once you say

01:17:42goodbye to me

01:17:42when I'm in my dorm.

01:17:44Yeah,

01:17:44I've never felt

01:17:45more understood

01:17:46by anyone

01:17:47than with you.

01:17:50So yeah,

01:17:50I hope you don't die.

01:17:51I don't know,

01:17:56I just keep

01:17:57reflecting

01:17:57on all the

01:17:58things that have

01:17:59happened this year.

01:18:00All the life lessons.

01:18:03Yeah,

01:18:04it's going to be

01:18:04hard to rival this.

01:18:08Thank you, too.

01:18:13All right,

01:18:14Talmadge,

01:18:15Brian Johnson.

01:18:19Second version of you.

01:18:21Let's get after it.

01:18:25Yep.

01:18:51The house

01:19:13is awfully quiet.

01:19:14I guess now

01:19:21it's real.

01:19:24It never felt real.

01:19:26And now it's quiet,

01:19:28just still.

01:19:31I wonder how

01:19:32he's feeling.

01:19:33I wonder how

01:19:33he's feeling.

01:19:33Can I show you

01:19:53the solution?

01:19:54Yes.

01:19:55You want to look at my screen?

01:19:56So let's say

01:19:58you're just like

01:19:59on the Blue Room website.

01:20:01You're just looking

01:20:02at food.

01:20:02There's this.

01:20:03How are you feeling today?

01:20:05You know,

01:20:05in many ways,

01:20:06I don't think

01:20:07I really could have

01:20:08gone to the next stage

01:20:08until I got things

01:20:10settled with Talmadge.

01:20:11I really needed him

01:20:12to be in a good place

01:20:13at school

01:20:14or on his next stage

01:20:16of life.

01:20:16And I think he's there.

01:20:17So I feel

01:20:18emboldened

01:20:19to take my next step, too.

01:20:20So I feel

01:20:20emboldened

01:20:21to take my next step, too.

01:20:23Ready.

01:20:24Let's do this.

01:20:28Hey, what's up, friends?

01:20:29Today is

01:20:30Don't Die Hike

01:20:30number four.

01:20:31It was less

01:20:32than two months ago

01:20:33that I messaged out

01:20:34on social media,

01:20:35hey, I'm going

01:20:36on a hike.

01:20:37Join me.

01:20:37And I had 11 people.

01:20:40Today,

01:20:40there's over

01:20:41400 people.

01:20:43Oh, my goodness.

01:20:43This is a lot of cars.

01:20:45Wow.

01:20:46Wait,

01:20:47there's more people

01:20:47than this is.

01:20:48What?

01:20:49This is crazy.

01:20:51Hi, everyone.

01:20:52Hey, guys.

01:20:52Good morning.

01:20:54You were 10 years younger

01:20:55than last time.

01:20:57Big group.

01:20:57Hug in the morning.

01:21:01Come on.

01:21:02Come on in.

01:21:03Over time,

01:21:06because I've gone

01:21:07through different stages

01:21:08of my feelings

01:21:09about Brian

01:21:11at the very beginning,

01:21:13his lifestyle struck me

01:21:14as quite solitary,

01:21:16but as more people

01:21:17have bought into this,

01:21:18he actually seems

01:21:19to be creating

01:21:21these friendships.

01:21:22I never expected.

01:21:23Okay, everyone,

01:21:24let's go up this way.

01:21:25Woo!

01:21:26Woo!

01:21:27For Brian,

01:21:28I can tell

01:21:28there's a lot

01:21:29of enjoyment

01:21:29from this,

01:21:31and so I think

01:21:32he's kind of

01:21:32flipped the narrative.

01:21:34You made it.

01:21:34Good job, everyone.

01:21:35Woo!

01:21:36Woo!

01:21:36I'll confess,

01:21:38this is a cult.

01:21:38It's a sick and twisted cult

01:21:42to get you to go to bed on time.

01:21:46There's little bits and pieces

01:21:47of that that are unnerving,

01:21:49but I think I see him now

01:21:50almost as like a philosopher.

01:21:52I mean, he's sort of

01:21:53trying to prove a point.

01:21:54Like a cult.

01:21:54It's this like

01:21:56don't die thing,

01:21:57which I really thought

01:21:59was sort of a joke

01:22:00as I saw this evolving,

01:22:02but there is some merit to it,

01:22:04I think,

01:22:04whether you believe

01:22:06in Brian

01:22:06or what he's doing or not,

01:22:08it's an interesting question

01:22:09to ask

01:22:09if society

01:22:10has just taken

01:22:11a wrong turn.

01:22:13I think it drives

01:22:14some people crazy

01:22:15and it inspires others.

01:22:17What's up, guys?

01:22:18I'm Talmadge.

01:22:18I'm Charles.

01:22:19I'm Kylie.

01:22:20And we're hosting

01:22:21the Don't Die event

01:22:22in Chicago.

01:22:22Don't die in Chicago!

01:22:25Don't die from Cologne!

01:22:27Don't die in Dublin!

01:22:29Don't die from Santa Fe!

01:22:30In Barcelona!

01:22:31In Hong Kong!

01:22:32Don't die in Chicago!

01:22:35What we're talking about

01:22:36is really a medical revolution.

01:22:39If there's an opportunity

01:22:40to stay healthy

01:22:41and stay functional

01:22:42and stay your grandkids,

01:22:44would you rather have that

01:22:45or would you rather wait

01:22:46until you get Alzheimer's

01:22:47and take some drug

01:22:48that slows the progression

01:22:49down by 30 percent?

01:22:52Aging is not inevitable,

01:22:53at least it can be delayed.

01:22:55And you can do that right now,

01:22:56probably by changing

01:22:57your lifestyle.

01:22:59Lifestyle factors are obvious,

01:23:01but it's important.

01:23:03From sleep quality,

01:23:05dietary modifications,

01:23:06regular exercise,

01:23:08and social interactions,

01:23:10we can get 10 years,

01:23:1115 years of extra quality life.

01:23:14And that number

01:23:14will probably get bigger

01:23:15with time

01:23:16as we develop

01:23:16more effective interventions.

01:23:18You can see right there

01:23:19with that fluid

01:23:20is mesenchymal stem cells.

01:23:23We haven't, obviously,

01:23:24yet got any human treatments

01:23:25that I'm happy to recommend.

01:23:27But I think because

01:23:27I know that these treatments

01:23:29are being developed

01:23:29and I think they're potentially

01:23:31going to be available

01:23:31within our lifetimes,

01:23:33I'm much more excited

01:23:34by following basic health advice

01:23:35because it means

01:23:36I'll hopefully be alive

01:23:37and healthy long enough

01:23:38to benefit

01:23:38from these first treatments.

01:23:40And what's even more exciting

01:23:41is that then

01:23:42if I benefit

01:23:42from those first treatments,

01:23:43maybe I'll live

01:23:44another few years longer.

01:23:45And that then means

01:23:46that gives scientists

01:23:47even more time

01:23:47to develop the second

01:23:48or the third round

01:23:49of these treatments.

01:23:50Of course,

01:23:51it's going to take time

01:23:52to develop interventions.

01:23:54But I'm certain

01:23:55that at some point

01:23:56two teenagers

01:23:58will have a conversation

01:23:59with each other

01:23:59and they'll be looking

01:24:00at their history books

01:24:01and they'll be commenting

01:24:03something like,

01:24:04oh my God,

01:24:04people just withered

01:24:05and died.

01:24:06Isn't that so tragic?

01:24:07the same way

01:24:08as we look at

01:24:09people just two lifetimes ago

01:24:12and not having

01:24:12an anesthetic

01:24:13or an antibiotic.

01:24:15And we look back

01:24:16and we go,

01:24:17geez, that's horrendous.

01:24:20When it happens,

01:24:20though,

01:24:21it's completely a product

01:24:21of what we do.

01:24:23How much effort

01:24:24and money and energy

01:24:25we put into this

01:24:26to create a movement

01:24:27of people utterly engaged

01:24:30in keeping people healthy

01:24:31as long as possible.

01:24:33Hi, everyone.

01:24:33I hope you guys feel

01:24:35like you're among

01:24:36your people,

01:24:38like-minded people

01:24:38trying not to die.

01:24:41I'm happy you came.

01:24:43I love you.

01:24:46Are you happy?

01:24:47I've never been happier

01:24:48in my entire life.

01:24:50I don't know

01:24:51if I can do it.

01:24:52I've never seen him happier

01:24:53than he is now.

01:24:55And just think about that.

01:24:56When you're content

01:24:57with who you are

01:24:58and you're engaged

01:24:59in a project

01:25:00that is everything

01:25:01that you want to do,

01:25:02doesn't that set up

01:25:03is a happy place.

01:25:07To hear him say to me,

01:25:09I've never been happier

01:25:10in my life,

01:25:11I think releases me

01:25:13from worry,

01:25:15knowing that

01:25:16he can go on like this.

01:25:19I've experienced

01:25:20wanting to die

01:25:21intensely,

01:25:23and now I'm in a situation

01:25:24where I want to live

01:25:27with everything

01:25:29that I am.

01:25:33and so, yeah,

01:25:43I really,

01:25:43I want to continue

01:25:45to exist

01:25:45and I don't feel

01:25:48any need

01:25:49to justify myself.

01:25:49I'm a disaster

01:25:52of an intelligent being,

01:25:54but, hey,

01:25:55you know what?

01:25:57I'm trying my best.

01:26:03Okay,

01:26:04I'm going to go

01:26:04try to pick up a car.

01:26:05I think she can do it.

01:26:14Love it.

01:26:15Hey.

01:26:16Hey.

01:26:17Hey.

01:26:18Hey.

01:26:19Hey.

01:26:20Hey.

01:26:21Hey.

01:26:22Hey.

01:26:23Hey.

01:26:24Hey.

01:26:25Hey.

01:26:26Hey.

01:26:27Hey.

01:26:28Hey.

01:26:29Hey.

01:26:30Hey.

01:26:31Hey.

01:26:32Hey.

01:26:33Hey.

01:26:34Hey.

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01:26:36Hey.

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