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Jemimah Rodrigues fearless yet selfless vs Australia: Wanted the win, not the fifty
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Women's World Cup: India's semi-final hero, Jemimah Rodrigues, emphasised that, through her fearless 127, she never thought about her own score rather just wanted to guide her side to the win from the get-go.
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00:00
Jamiya, first of all, I told you about playing such a big game.
00:04
When you got a target, what did you think of the team?
00:07
And what did you think of batting in your mind?
00:10
What did you think of playing such a long game, such a long score?
00:13
What did you think of playing such a long game in your mind?
00:16
Tell me about it.
00:17
Yeah, I think when this score came,
00:20
the team's thought was that
00:23
against New Zealand, in 49 overs, we had scored 3-4-1.
00:28
Against Australia and Wysak,
00:30
where we had scored 3-33.
00:33
So we knew that we have done it against this team,
00:36
and I felt with the way Australia started,
00:39
they were 30 runs short,
00:41
with the way they were going, with the start they got.
00:43
So I knew they were 30 runs short,
00:45
and D.Y. Patel is such a pitch,
00:47
any score is chaseable.
00:49
So I just knew that,
00:50
and my thought process was that
00:52
I just had to be there,
00:53
because there are runs coming,
00:55
but I need to be there to get those runs.
00:57
Yes.
00:58
Jemima, it was a world record chase,
01:00
in the league stage that Australia did against India,
01:03
and today it was,
01:04
you think it was a fitting reply to Australia,
01:06
that you had a world record chase in women's ODS,
01:08
and were you praying,
01:10
or were you tired that you were,
01:12
in between overs, in between divers,
01:14
you were kneeling down and looking down,
01:16
were you praying, or what was it?
01:17
Yeah, I was praying, I was talking to myself,
01:20
because actually I lost a lot of energy,
01:23
I was not feeling, I was feeling very tired,
01:25
and because of the tiredness,
01:27
I was playing a few shots that,
01:29
you know, it was a very tricky phase at that time,
01:31
that should I go right now, should I take it deep?
01:35
So, I think that was one learning for me also,
01:37
like to just stay there,
01:38
you know, towards the end,
01:39
we always take it deep.
01:40
But yeah, I was praying,
01:42
I was talking to God,
01:44
because I feel that I have a personal relationship with Him,
01:47
and when I cannot carry myself,
01:49
He always carries me.
01:50
You know, I honestly feel,
01:55
whichever team would have come in the semi-finals,
01:59
it would have been the same reply from our team,
02:01
because we don't want to play the team,
02:05
we want to play the moment,
02:07
and win that moment.
02:08
We want to play the match,
02:09
and win the match,
02:10
and whichever team would come,
02:12
I think our reply would be the same,
02:13
we would play with the same passion,
02:15
same aggression,
02:16
we would play to win this match for India.
02:18
Hi, Jimmy.
02:20
So, first of all,
02:21
it was very, very tough out there,
02:23
like the conditions,
02:24
I think the humidity was really high.
02:26
And, you know, during a chase,
02:28
we've seen India, you know,
02:30
lose a lot of wickets towards the end,
02:32
and not keep up with the pressure,
02:33
like against England we saw.
02:35
And so, can you just talk about
02:37
how you just kept your nerves,
02:39
and what was the communication like,
02:41
in the middle,
02:42
and especially to play through that heat?
02:44
And, you know,
02:46
I think against Australia specifically,
02:47
can you just tell us?
02:49
Yeah, I think first,
02:50
the first thing I'd answer is that,
02:52
I have been a part of chases,
02:54
I think,
02:55
against Australia,
02:56
almost three chases,
02:58
where,
02:59
we were going well,
03:00
we got it to run a ball,
03:01
and we lost from there.
03:02
And, I think those moments taught me a lot,
03:05
and I just wanted to be there to finish it off.
03:07
Even the previous day,
03:08
we had a group discussion,
03:10
we were just saying,
03:11
what all we could do better in this World Cup,
03:12
we could do better in this World Cup.
03:13
And, all I said was that,
03:15
I want to be there till the end,
03:17
and finish the game.
03:18
Whether we're batting first,
03:19
I know if I'm there,
03:20
I can make a partnership,
03:21
and, you know,
03:22
get those 20-30 runs extra,
03:23
because I run well,
03:24
pick gaps,
03:25
unusual gaps.
03:26
And the second thing was,
03:27
if we're chasing,
03:28
then I want to make sure I won't take the team through.
03:30
And, this just feels like a dream, actually.
03:33
It just felt like,
03:34
everything was such a set-up,
03:35
because,
03:36
the last month,
03:37
wasn't the easiest,
03:38
but,
03:39
it just felt like a set-up,
03:41
for this moment.
03:42
So, yeah.
03:43
Jamie,
03:44
everyone dreams to win big matches for their country.
03:47
It was a World Cup semi-final,
03:49
against seven times champion Australia.
03:51
And, your knock was,
03:53
you know,
03:54
the defining moment for India.
03:56
How do you rate these innings?
03:57
And, you were also riding on luck.
03:59
So, how do you feel about,
04:01
you know,
04:02
and cashing those chances?
04:06
I mean,
04:07
how do I rate this innings?
04:08
Actually,
04:09
I have not sunk,
04:10
let it sink in.
04:12
All I would say was,
04:14
I didn't play for my 100.
04:15
I didn't play to prove a point at number 3.
04:17
I didn't play for my 50.
04:18
I just played to make sure India win.
04:20
At that board,
04:21
I wanted to see India win,
04:24
at the end.
04:25
And, that was my only motivation.
04:27
And, I think when,
04:28
when you have that thought process,
04:30
I think God also favours you.
04:32
You know,
04:33
you do it for the team,
04:34
you don't do it for yourself.
04:35
And, I think I have always played my cricket that way.
04:37
And, I,
04:39
I am short for words actually.
04:42
Yes.
04:43
Hi Jemi.
04:44
Well played today.
04:46
And,
04:47
you said yourself,
04:48
you have been against Australia in chases like this.
04:51
Where,
04:52
coincidentally,
04:53
every time a Harman wicket falls,
04:54
you know,
04:55
India tend to lost,
04:56
to lose out at the death.
04:58
Pretty similar,
04:59
to what happened today as well.
05:01
And,
05:02
just want to know,
05:03
in that moment,
05:04
what was that internal dialogue like,
05:06
between you and yourself?
05:07
What was that internal dialogue like?
05:09
Yeah.
05:10
Actually,
05:11
when you said that,
05:12
I remember at that point,
05:13
I also felt that way.
05:14
Because,
05:15
and,
05:16
I was telling Haridi that,
05:17
we both have to finish it.
05:18
We can't leave it for the end.
05:19
Just because we are set.
05:20
And,
05:21
we know we can take it through.
05:22
And,
05:23
when that happened,
05:24
but actually,
05:25
it,
05:26
it wasn't a blessing.
05:27
But,
05:28
it's like a blessing in disguise for me.
05:29
Because,
05:30
I was kind of losing,
05:31
my focus,
05:32
because of my tiredness.
05:33
But,
05:34
when Haridi got out,
05:35
I think that,
05:36
added more responsibility to me.
05:37
That,
05:38
okay,
05:39
I need to be here.
05:40
Okay,
05:41
she's out,
05:42
I'll score for her.
05:43
And,
05:44
I think that,
05:45
again,
05:46
got me in the right zone.
05:47
Then,
05:48
I started just,
05:49
you know,
05:50
sensibly playing.
05:51
Congrats on the win.
05:54
Just talk about the last month.
05:55
As you said,
05:56
it's not been easy.
05:57
You've,
05:58
missed out on a game as well.
05:59
Your first ODA World Cup.
06:00
Could you just talk about the emotions of it all?
06:02
Yeah,
06:03
I'll be,
06:04
very vulnerable here.
06:05
Because,
06:06
I know if,
06:07
someone is watching this,
06:08
might be going through the same thing.
06:09
And,
06:10
that's my whole purpose of saying it.
06:11
Because,
06:12
nobody likes to talk about their weakness.
06:13
I was going through a lot of anxiety,
06:15
at the starting,
06:16
of the tournament.
06:17
And,
06:18
it was a lot,
06:19
you know,
06:20
before few games also,
06:22
I used to call my mum and cry.
06:24
Cry the entire time.
06:26
Let it all out.
06:27
Because,
06:28
when,
06:29
when you're going through,
06:30
anxiety,
06:31
you just feel numb.
06:32
You don't know what to do.
06:33
You're trying to be yourself.
06:34
And,
06:35
also,
06:36
in this time,
06:37
my mum,
06:38
my dad,
06:39
they supported me a lot.
06:40
And,
06:41
also,
06:42
there was,
06:43
who,
06:44
I think,
06:45
almost every day,
06:46
I've cried in front,
06:47
almost every day,
06:48
I've cried in front of her.
06:49
I,
06:50
I think,
06:51
later I was joking,
06:52
I said,
06:53
you don't come in front of me,
06:54
I'll start crying.
06:55
But,
06:56
she checked on me,
06:57
every single day.
06:58
And,
07:00
yeah,
07:01
and,
07:02
that was Priti,
07:03
who helped me.
07:04
She also knew what I was going through.
07:06
Few of the next sessions,
07:07
she was just standing there.
07:08
Even yesterday she came,
07:09
she just stood there,
07:10
just because,
07:11
didn't,
07:12
didn't say much.
07:13
she just knows that her presence is important for me.
07:15
There's been Radha,
07:16
who's,
07:17
you know,
07:18
always been there,
07:19
taking care of me.
07:20
Like,
07:21
I'm so blessed to have friends,
07:22
I can call family.
07:23
That,
07:24
I didn't have to go through it alone.
07:26
And,
07:27
it's okay to ask for help.
07:28
And,
07:29
that's what happened.
07:30
And,
07:31
my mum also,
07:32
you know,
07:33
she's as emotional as I am.
07:34
But,
07:35
she went through a lot,
07:36
my family went through a lot.
07:37
But,
07:38
everyone stood by me,
07:39
and,
07:40
believed in me when I didn't,
07:41
when I couldn't.
07:42
And,
07:43
the anxiety thing.
07:44
Then,
07:45
I was dropped from the team.
07:46
That really hit me.
07:47
And,
07:48
you know,
07:49
when you dropped,
07:50
you have a lot of doubts,
07:51
because,
07:52
I always want to contribute to the team.
07:53
But,
07:54
that day,
07:55
I couldn't do much sitting out.
07:56
And,
07:57
then,
07:58
when you come back in,
07:59
it's a lot more pressure,
08:01
with everything that was happening in the past month.
08:04
But,
08:05
sometimes,
08:06
all you need to do is just hang in there,
08:08
and,
08:09
things fall into place.
08:10
So,
08:11
I think,
08:12
I'm very grateful for the,
08:14
people who believed in me,
08:15
when,
08:16
I couldn't,
08:17
and were there for me,
08:18
and understood me.
08:19
Because,
08:20
I couldn't do this on my own.
08:21
I'm grateful to Jesus,
08:22
because,
08:23
just,
08:24
His presence,
08:25
and,
08:26
reading the bible,
08:27
just,
08:28
encouraged me,
08:29
in my,
08:30
tough times.
08:31
And,
08:32
the bible says that,
08:33
weeping endures for a night.
08:34
But,
08:35
joy comes in the morning.
08:36
And,
08:37
today,
08:38
joy came.
08:39
We'll take this,
08:40
last two questions.
08:41
Jamie,
08:42
is this your greatest cricketing moment ever?
08:45
And,
08:46
how special is this,
08:47
considering that you missed out on the 22 World Cup?
08:50
And,
08:51
was that the point where you resolved that,
08:52
you know,
08:53
you're going to come back with a bang?
08:54
Because,
08:55
you've seen your career go up and up from there.
08:57
To be honest,
08:59
when I was dropped,
09:00
obviously,
09:01
when I came into this World Cup,
09:03
being dropped the last World Cup,
09:05
I wanted to,
09:06
come out there,
09:07
and,
09:08
not prove a point,
09:09
but just do things that my team wins.
09:11
I kept reminding myself,
09:12
that it was very easy to get into that mindset,
09:14
and that mindset never has helped me.
09:16
But,
09:17
I think,
09:18
I think,
09:19
today,
09:20
today,
09:21
not just today,
09:22
but,
09:23
from the last few games,
09:24
all I thought about was,
09:25
because,
09:27
I started off,
09:28
I didn't start off well,
09:29
you know,
09:30
things just kept getting worse and worse.
09:31
First,
09:32
I was dropped,
09:33
off the previous World Cup.
09:34
Then,
09:35
I'm going in,
09:36
got out on zero in the first match.
09:38
Went in next match,
09:39
got a great start,
09:40
couldn't convert it.
09:41
Again,
09:42
getting out on zero,
09:43
then getting a 30,
09:44
then being dropped.
09:45
So,
09:46
just,
09:47
when I felt okay,
09:48
now it's going to happen,
09:49
now it's going to,
09:50
things just got worse and worse.
09:51
So,
09:52
this knock is very special for me,
09:54
because,
09:55
of everything I went through.
09:56
And,
09:57
just to come out here,
09:58
do it in front of my,
09:59
family,
10:00
do it in front of my team,
10:01
do it for the team,
10:02
do it in front of,
10:03
my people,
10:04
Nabi Mumbai,
10:05
for,
10:06
for the crowd.
10:07
I think it was,
10:08
it,
10:09
would be,
10:10
so far,
10:11
my best knock.
10:12
I'm saving one more for the finals.
10:13
Last one.
10:16
Hi, Jemi.
10:17
Five minutes,
10:18
that's all I want to know from you.
10:19
Those five minutes,
10:20
the thought that you had,
10:21
when you came to know,
10:22
you will be batting at three,
10:23
and the time you walked out,
10:24
what went through your mind,
10:25
in those five minutes?
10:26
Um,
10:27
I was kind of prepared for it,
10:29
when I thought that,
10:30
okay,
10:31
maybe the score is there,
10:32
they might send me.
10:34
So,
10:35
when that,
10:36
when that notice came,
10:37
I wasn't like,
10:38
unaware,
10:39
I was ready for it.
10:40
So,
10:41
but I just,
10:42
gave myself,
10:43
you know,
10:44
some time.
10:45
I was in the shower,
10:46
I took my ice bath,
10:47
first I asked,
10:48
then they said,
10:49
it's the same order.
10:50
Then they sent a message again,
10:51
and they said,
10:52
okay,
10:53
you are going to go now.
10:54
So,
10:55
I said,
10:56
okay,
10:57
but I was in the shower,
10:58
at that time,
10:59
I just freshened up,
11:00
I ate something,
11:01
because I had not eaten.
11:02
And,
11:03
yeah,
11:04
I think,
11:05
once I walked in there,
11:06
I just thought of,
11:07
how would I play for a Mumbai team?
11:09
When I lead Mumbai,
11:10
how would I do it there?
11:11
Because,
11:12
I don't know whoever comes in from there,
11:13
what would I do?
11:14
And,
11:15
I know how important this match is,
11:16
and I wanted to be there to finish it off.
11:18
So,
11:19
all I did was,
11:20
you know,
11:21
just kept telling myself,
11:22
just stand,
11:23
just stand here,
11:24
just stand here,
11:25
amazing things can happen towards the end,
11:26
you just,
11:27
give God a chance,
11:28
just stand here,
11:29
you never know what can happen towards the end of the match.
11:31
And then whenever thoughts were coming,
11:33
like,
11:34
you know,
11:35
when I reached my 50,
11:36
when I reached my 100,
11:37
I didn't celebrate,
11:38
because,
11:39
at that moment,
11:40
I thought of it,
11:41
I looked at a hotel right here,
11:42
and I said,
11:43
tomorrow morning,
11:44
what would make me happier?
11:45
Would it be a 50?
11:46
Would it be a 100?
11:47
No,
11:48
it would be India winning.
11:49
And,
11:50
I want to wake up with that,
11:51
I want to sleep with that smile,
11:52
ki,
11:53
we are playing the finals,
11:54
and I'm waking up to get ready for a finals.
11:56
So,
11:57
I think that kept me motivated too.
11:58
Thank you everyone,
11:59
thank you a lot.
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