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00:16Welcome to Show Business, Bhushanji. Very nice to have you on the show.
00:21How are you feeling?
00:21We are very happy because this is the film which we were very confident about.
00:25Right.
00:26Right from the day when I heard the script, the idea, when Dino was narrating with the script.
00:33Right.
00:34At that time, we just understood that it was a very content-driven film.
00:42Correct.
00:43And it definitely relates to people.
00:46That's right.
00:47That is, today, if you watch any film, all films, people are looking at relatability.
00:52That's right.
00:53It should be relatable, or we should say relatable, or believable.
00:58You should be able to identify it.
01:00Absolutely.
01:01Unbelievable cinema means from a long time I've seen, until unless you're making larger than life.
01:08Like Bahubali.
01:08Like Bahubali.
01:09Yes.
01:10Fantasy.
01:10One person is fighting thousand people.
01:13That's right.
01:13So that is a fantasy.
01:14For that, you have to go into a different world and make it like a very fiction, which Bahubali was.
01:21Right.
01:23Otherwise, the content-driven cinema, be it Air Lift, be it Nirja, be it Pink, all these films have worked because of the content.
01:32That's right.
01:32And that's what the thing, in Hindi medium, we had that kind of confidence.
01:36We saw the film, and I was betting on it, me and my entire team,
01:41that if this film doesn't do business, then we don't know how to judge a script or make films and all these stuff.
01:49Like we have very good knowledge about music.
01:51That's right.
01:52Like you know, 90% of the time, we are very confident that our music will do very well, this music will do average, and all those things we have in mind.
02:01Right.
02:01And 90% we are almost there in music.
02:05Same thing, I was feeling how to make that kind of judgment, make our ear tuned to that kind of judgment power in terms of the scripts.
02:15Right.
02:16That, we started with Aashiki, we were very good, then we did a couple of more films.
02:22So, we are developing our sense for scripts.
02:28Scripts.
02:29That's right.
02:30And with Hindi medium means we have got that kind of confidence, because this was a film which we were thinking,
02:35this will open at this much, it will grow, for Monday it will maintain.
02:39That's right.
02:40All those things which we were predicting, that happened.
02:43Yes.
02:43So, that gives you confidence.
02:45Gushin ji, do you realize that after Bahuballi, which is so big, the most big film, after Bahuballi, yours is the first film, so small film, this is the first film that has done really well.
02:59I mean, it's an overflow film straight away, isn't it?
03:01Absolutely.
03:01Correct.
03:01And the rest of the film, like Sirkartri Hai, you have so many other films, Shraj Ki Film Hai, Meri Piyari Bindu, so many films have come, but it's all gone and it's only your film that has done.
03:13So, you know, post Bahuballi, Hindi medium is the first hit.
03:17See, without commenting on others, everybody work hard, because I have also done films which have not worked.
03:22Not worked, yes.
03:23So, I don't want to comment on anybody else, means everybody's film should work, but obviously, you have to be little more possessive about your own film.
03:34The only thing which I just told you, means because of the content and the belief we have in the film, that's why we showed the film to everybody.
03:41You showed it to the press, which you never do, actually.
03:43Because we were very confident, we wanted, if we had thought of something wrong, I wanted to know that we had to know before, the release of the film, that we made a correct picture or not.
03:58That's right.
03:59That's right.
03:59So, the main feeling that is bigger than any money I earn.
04:05Absolutely.
04:05Yes.
04:05Means, see, business-wise, overall, I earn good profit for my company.
04:10That is a separate thing.
04:11That's right.
04:11But getting your sense correct, to choose a script, that is a very important thing in filmmaking.
04:17That's a good satisfaction, isn't it?
04:19Yeah.
04:19That you've gone correct in this.
04:21Absolutely.
04:21So, I'm very happy.
04:22Gaged it correctly.
04:23The ROI, the kind of return I have got in this film means, the name I have got, everybody have congratulated me, what a film, what a film.
04:33When you are doing something, it was 22 crore approximately, the film has cost you approximately 22 crore?
04:41Yeah, approximately most 22 max.
04:43With P&A, isn't it?
04:45With P&A, everything including this party.
04:46Yeah, including the success party.
04:48Yeah.
04:49Okay.
04:50You factored that into your cost of production.
04:52Everything goes into P&A.
04:53That means you are very confident because if you have factored in a success party.
04:56No, no.
04:57I'm not joking about it.
04:58We just factored in events.
04:59So, this is one of the…
05:00That's great.
05:01Okay.
05:02Your return has been fantastic because I think your net itself has been more than 12 so far.
05:06Yeah.
05:07And you have satellite and other rights, you'll get another 12 to 13.
05:10Yeah, that we have already sold.
05:11And you've got tax exemption, isn't it?
05:13Tax exemption is also there but that eventually goes to the people who buy tickets and all because…
05:20That's right.
05:21At a lower rate.
05:22At a lower rate.
05:23We own more because people… more people come and watch the film.
05:26Will come and see it.
05:27Yeah.
05:28The footfall will be.
05:29That's the indirect benefit but it's benefit for everyone.
05:30That's right.
05:31We have got tax-free in Maharashtra and Gujarat and now we are trying for other state also in the coming week.
05:36Okay.
05:37Hopefully, we'll get it.
05:38That's right.
05:39Let's see for that.
05:40Isn't it strange that you came out with a film called Hindi Medium and although there are two different films,
05:44on the same day you had another film called Half Girlfriend which also actually talked a little bit about the same thing about…
05:50you know, a guy coming from Bihar and talking in Hindi, being more comfortable in Hindi than in English.
05:55Somewhere there was a little bit of a similarity in the two thoughts, isn't it?
05:59Yeah, some thought there were a similarity but see Arjun Kapoor, Mohit, Ekta Kapoor, everybody they are very dear friend of ours.
06:08That's right.
06:09They did Aashiki too with you.
06:10Yeah, means yeah.
06:11Shadda.
06:12Shadda.
06:13And Mohit did.
06:14Now I'm working with Shadda again.
06:15I'm working with Mohit again.
06:16I'm working with Arjun also again.
06:17Okay.
06:18Ekta Kapoor also, we share a great bond.
06:21Right.
06:22See, this was an unavoidable situation.
06:24Yes.
06:25I never wanted to come on a date with Half Girlfriend because of the reason I just told you…
06:30Yes.
06:31They're all your friends.
06:32They are just so close to us.
06:33But I was fixed in between because Bahuvali nobody thought we'll do such a great business for five weeks.
06:40That's right.
06:41Yes.
06:42Even in the third week it will be such a huge hit with huge numbers.
06:46Like third week was when the Sarkar released it was 15 crore Friday.
06:50That's right.
06:51So that time if I would have come means I would have not survived.
06:59I wouldn't have got shows only.
07:00Right.
07:01Actually, yeah.
07:02That was the reason that I was not getting shows.
07:04Okay.
07:05I was not getting showcasing, I was not getting shows, I was not getting properties.
07:10So everything was getting divided because Yashiraj was also pulling.
07:13That's right.
07:14Sarkar was also pulling.
07:15That's right.
07:16And Bahuvali was taking the lion's share.
07:17Correct.
07:18So we were not getting traitors.
07:19That's right.
07:20And post that it is now from today it's the start of Ramzan.
07:26That's right.
07:27So that was again a problem for me in India and Max in overseas.
07:33That's right.
07:34Overseas people were saying that we will leave the film.
07:35That's right.
07:36We don't want to release the film in the beginning of Ramzan.
07:38Of Ramzan.
07:39Normally people release films after two weeks.
07:41To the end.
07:42We are also releasing in Ramzan.
07:43Rapta is coming in Ramzan.
07:44Yes.
07:45But two weeks is still a little lighter.
07:47But just first week of Ramzan is.
07:50That's right.
07:51It's not the right time to come out.
07:52It's not the right time to come out.
07:53And my distributor Anil Dhadani, he was releasing Sachin also.
07:57Correct.
07:58So I didn't want him to divide the thing.
08:00Attention between.
08:01Yes.
08:02He's doing Bahuvali also.
08:03Then he's doing Hindi medium also.
08:05He's doing Sachin also.
08:06Sachin also.
08:07So he was saying that I'm not comfortable with 26th.
08:10Otherwise, I was definitely thinking to shift my film to 26th.
08:14Okay.
08:15You didn't want to come with half girlfriend.
08:16Okay.
08:17Not because.
08:18It's because we have a relationship.
08:20That's right.
08:21Yeah.
08:22That was the main reason.
08:23But it was an unavoidable situation in which everyone, I called them and they were gracious
08:28enough that I understand your problem.
08:31You called them and spoke to them about it.
08:33Okay.
08:34Okay.
08:35I understand your problem.
08:36Okay.
08:37Okay.
08:38So that was a very above board way of functioning, isn't it?
08:40Absolutely.
08:41Yeah.
08:42But do you realise that your film, which is a small film, Irfan Khan is the main force in
08:47it, it's cost very little 22 crores and you have half girlfriend which cost 48 crores.
08:54And that has not brought back the kind of returns your film has got, isn't it?
08:57The ROI has not been the same.
08:59I mean, it has done, Ekta has made money because she sold it to Naridrahi Rawat for more than
09:0430 crores plus satellite, whatever.
09:06So they'll get their money.
09:07She gets her money back, the producer.
09:09But I'm not very sure about the distributor, whether they are going to get that kind of
09:13return.
09:14It's too early now, second week, one has to see.
09:15But it has already slumped.
09:16Yeah.
09:17While yours has remained steady.
09:18Yeah.
09:19In fact, it has gone up.
09:20Yeah, right.
09:21Actually, but see again, I don't want to comment on somebody else's film.
09:25Absolutely.
09:26But obviously, when the budgets are high, ROI is less.
09:31Yes.
09:32And when budgets are low, ROI is more.
09:34That is a normal, common formula.
09:35Absolutely.
09:36If a small film works, it is like when Aashiki worked for me.
09:39Aashiki was a 9 crore film with a 7 crore PNA.
09:42Right.
09:43It was a 300% profit margin in that.
09:47That's right.
09:48Which is possible only when you make a small film.
09:50Yeah.
09:51Unless it's a Bahubali, of course.
09:52Absolutely.
09:53So, these things are possible in these kinds of like Pink made, Nirja made.
09:58Yes.
09:59All those film profits were huge.
10:00That's right.
10:01So, are you concentrating, is T-series concentrating on making small budget films?
10:05You don't want to make these huge ones?
10:06See, I am concentrating on the small budget films with content.
10:09Content.
10:10Now, Hindi medium has proved that the budget is not everything.
10:13The content is everything.
10:14Totally.
10:15For us.
10:16Yes.
10:17It has worked for you.
10:18For normal public, for other producers, it has worked in Pink, Nirja, so many examples.
10:23Yes.
10:24Queen, I still remember it was a 10 crore film.
10:27Yes.
10:28For me, I didn't do it because I was thinking, yeah, it's a very natural film.
10:32It's a very natural film.
10:33Okay.
10:34It's not believable for me.
10:36Okay.
10:37It's possible.
10:38But who will see it?
10:39Correct.
10:40It worked.
10:41That's right.
10:42So, now I have changed my mind.
10:43That kind of films also work.
10:44Also work.
10:45Yeah, that's right.
10:46When I did Air Lift, people were telling me, you are making a documentary.
10:49That's right.
10:50But it worked.
10:51But people want to see that.
10:53Yeah.
10:54It's the highest grossing film of ours.
10:56That's right.
10:57But that is a lovely film.
10:58128 crores.
10:59That's right.
11:00So, those are the things which matter a lot.
11:02Very true.
11:03So, what is the future for T-Series?
11:06Are you planning any more of these small films?
11:08I believe you've got another Irfan Khan starter.
11:10Yeah, we have an Irfan Khan starter.
11:12Raita?
11:13No, it's tentatively called Raita, but we are changing the title.
11:18Okay.
11:19And that's also a very interesting script which Abhinay is doing.
11:22Abhinay is doing.
11:23Then we are doing biopic on Saina Nehwal.
11:25Right.
11:26And with Shadda in it.
11:28Which Shadda.
11:29So, that's there.
11:30Then our releases are coming.
11:31Badshan, Chef.
11:32Then there is one more film which we are planning with Ajay Devan.
11:36My father's biopic is coming.
11:38Really?
11:39That is interesting.
11:40Yeah, Lakshi Kumar.
11:41Oh, wonderful.
11:42Wonderful.
11:43Yes, that's right.
11:44Yes.
11:45So, all those things are there.
11:47There are many films we are doing and there are many other announcements which we will
11:50be doing soon now which are very real based cinema.
11:53Excellent.
11:54For which we have signed various directors.
11:56Super, super.
11:57And actors and all.
11:58And now that Hindi medium has worked, that sets the ball rolling, isn't it?
12:02Yeah, means you know what you are making and what you are making that can work.
12:07Yes.
12:08Because those kind of things work in theaters and all.
12:13Everybody wants to see that kind of relatable and real cinema.
12:16Correct.
12:17Absolutely.
12:18If you have confidence, then I am not saying that I will make 10 films, all 10 will be super
12:238.
12:24Naturally.
12:25But still my run rate can be 5 out of 10, 6 out of 10 is possible now.
12:29That's right.
12:30This has given us confidence.
12:31That's right.
12:32The content plus our controlled budget.
12:34Yes.
12:35Congratulations.
12:37Thank you very much.
12:38Thank you very much.
12:39Thank you very much.
12:40Bye.
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